Is Tmobile going to do this phone - Touch Cruise General

Does anyone know if tmobile UK are going to have a version of the polaris and if so when/name etc.
I am about to upgrade and I would really like this phone but the other UK networks are just not viable for internet usage due to daft tarifs.

i just switched from T-mobile to O2 as it dodn't look they would be doing anything other than the Dual touch or Vario 3.
Shame really.

Do you use a lot fo data. I mainly use my phone for email and internet and I am very nervous about their tarifs and allowances. how are you managing?

O2 offer 200mb free with most of their packages as you probably know. I use it mainly for email and internet browsing for footy results etc. I haven't used anywhere near my 'fair' use allowance but that is maybe because I do most of my surfing at home.

£7.50 bolt on gives u unlimited data allowance with a fair usage policy

nickbro said:
£7.50 bolt on gives u unlimited data allowance with a fair usage policy
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02 unlimited data = 200MB
T-Mobile Unlimited = 1/3/10GB (standard/plus/max)
I'm using TC on T-Mobile. As I've suggested to others on T-Mobile, do as I am, upgrade to a N95/Kaiser and sell it then buy a TC.

Just a slight thread-hijack here (sorry).
Apart from O2, are there any other UK providers that supply the Polaris.
Won't bore you with the details, but will be leaving O2 in the next day or 2 but don't want to be without my Polaris for too long as it's just so God-damn good!!

nahguam said:
02 unlimited data = 200MB
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Is it, When I phoned o2 up to upgrade my contract, I asked for this, and they said that it's been updated but the website is out of date. It's truely unlimited now, just with VoIP and other usage no no's

nickbro said:
Is it, When I phoned o2 up to upgrade my contract, I asked for this, and they said that it's been updated but the website is out of date. It's truely unlimited now, just with VoIP and other usage no no's
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Good if it is now unlimited, but I still think it's against their fair usage to use it as a modem...

nahguam said:
02 unlimited data = 200MB
T-Mobile Unlimited = 1/3/10GB (standard/plus/max)
I'm using TC on T-Mobile. As I've suggested to others on T-Mobile, do as I am, upgrade to a N95/Kaiser and sell it then buy a TC.
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This is interesting. I am on a business tarif and have webnwalk pro - completely unlimited data and I can use it as a modem and for voip etc. so as you can imagine - I really dont want to move to provider as I would be stuffed.

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UK T-mobile new unlimited GPRS tariffs!

first forgive me if allready posted ( have done a search but found nothing )
there been much disscusion at other forums, started 1st april, check out, http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=plans_webnwalk
its either combined with a new tarrif or available as a £7.50 to an exsisting tarrif.
suddenly my wizard becomes more useable with such a bargin price!
GREAT!!
Thanks for that man, i just called T-Mobile up and asked them about it and yes its true! for only £7.50 i can go online all day on gprs/umts for no extra charge! i've just cancelled my dumb gprs allowance i used to have (£5 for 6MB) It works on any Flext or relax price plan so anyone who is thinking of it....go for it!!
Standard charge for T-Mobile is: 1MB=£7.50........... ouch now thats bad!
don't even think of going online without the web n walk upgrade!
I've got it too, only just got my Wizard and was excited about having Wi-Fi access to the net, but this pretty much makes Wi'Fi redundant for me!
great, and even better is ,
if you get the new contract with them now, not even you got 25% off for traiff, and also the unlimited GPRS..
so, you only pay for 5.63 pounds for unlimited GPRS..
What if I bought a contract with the 25% off thena dded the GPRS? Willth ey give me it at 25% off do ya reckon?
I only bought my Vario from T-Mobile a couple of weeks ago, and now they introduce this! I want my 25% off GPRS
Hopefully other operators will start to follow suit.
I'd pay £10 a month for GPRS/3G access on O2...
just to add around the 19th april there adding a faster pro version £9.99 per month 2 gb limit, can be used on laptops, 3g etc
Are there multiple speeds of GPRS?
fil said:
just to add around the 19th april there adding a faster pro version £9.99 per month 2 gb limit, can be used on laptops, 3g etc
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Eh? I thought it was unlimited?
yep says unlimited , subject to fair useage, which i belive is 40mbs? but theres so many different storys numbers???
may be a bit like my ntl 2gb download limit, when i had it, used to go well well over that, nothing happened?
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Are there multiple speeds of GPRS?
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some one correct me if im wrong,
but 2g is up to 56kbps
then there 2.5g which a normal 2g phone can handle , thats 384kbps
and then 3g thats 2Gbps
It's quite simple...
For £7.99 (Web'n'Walk) you get unlimited data, but with a fair use policy that prohibits services such as VOIP, filesharing and streaming. It also does not permit you to use your phone as a modem for your PC/laptop. I *believe* that UMTS on this service is capped at 128Kbps.
For £9.99 (Web'n'Walk Pro) you get data limited to 2Gb/month, but with no limitations on how you use that data (i.e. you're allowed streaming, VOIP, filesharing, and permittted to connect your phone to your laptop/PC). I *believe* the speed cap is lifted, allowing full 384kbps UMTS service.
Just revising this... I now believe that regular Web'n'Walk offers speeds up to 384kbps, while Web'n'Walk PRO will potentially offer access to the UMTS-HSDPA standard which T-Mobile are planning to roll out across their network, with potential speeds up to 1.8Mbps (which fits nicely with their "upto 5x faster" statement).
how do they know if I'm streaming radio off the net?
paulrockliffe said:
how do they know if I'm streaming radio off the net?
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TCP/UDP ports, MCAST, protocol filtering?
There are so many ways to block unwanted traffic...
Hal.
I signed up to a 12 month contract with 02 UK just two days ago. ****ty 4M for £5 is rediculus but XDA Exec for £150 is a good offer. Any ideas if O2 plans on competing with this at all?
wifi through AP allowed too in UK?
Hi there,
In the Netherlands TMO claims you can use Web'nWalk for their wifi AP's too. No use on my magician , but is it allowed in the UK too? & with that you'll never be far from a proper internet connection .
M
Btw I'm not exactly a fair user, always >40MB & in january I topped >420MB & never heard anything
changing tarifs
For anyone already with Tmobile but withot the webnwalk tarif - email customer services (free) via the tmobile website and they will switch it for you.
I realised I was paying too much and asked for some info. A really nice lady emailed me all the avaiable tarifs and I changed to a flext tarif webnwalk.
I have gained 20 minutes talk time and unlimitedish GPRS and cut my bill in the process.
I hope other operators do NOT copy T-Mobile..... this is just a marketing scam as far as I am concerned. Don't get me wrong, the price is amazing, but there is a BIG but:
Not only are you limited to the 2GB Usage (which is actually not all that bad), you can not use VoIP (to get free UK phone calls: www.sipdiscount.com using SJphone), you can not even use MSN Messenger, Yahoo, Gtalk, or AIM!!! (no Agile Messenger)!!! OMG
'Use of Voice over Internet Protocol and Messaging over Internet Protocol is prohibited by T-Mobile. If use of either or both of these services is detected T-Mobile may terminate all contracts with the customer and disconnect any SIM cards and/or web ‘n’ walk cards from the T-Mobile network.'
There are plans to lift the IM limitation at the end of the year. We want all ports unblocked!!!
By the way, your DSL or Cable connection is now obsolete due to T-Mobile's innovation: 20Mb Wireless!! Awesome. Can't wait
cya

expansys out of stock

Just thought id mention after talking to a connections agent they told me the phones now out of stock... Expect some more in a couple of days.
Don’t believe the website they are out of stock.
Also,
Anyone else finding it really difficult to get good deals and data bundles?
Orange well there orange and seem to be trying to loose there customers.
T-Mobile want to only give you 1gb and seem to make up reasons for not letting you use a laptop. And want to make you pay over 200 quid for the phone for dropping the tariff down to the combi 25 rather than using the 30. I find that a bit sickening.
Oh and are about to set a 17 month minimum waiting period before your allowed to edit your tariff.
o2... Well O2 seem to be buddying up to Iphone and only offer any reasonably good data tariff with that phone only.
Im not even going to bother checking Vodafone’s data tariff as there network simply sucks. Random drop outs for no reason other than being a Vodafone network.
3 are said to piggyback Oranges network so I doubt there’s anything good there.
Am i missing anything?
You'll definitely want to avoid T-Mobile (for the time being at least) as everyone on T-Mobile with a Touch Pro is experiencing a poorer signal than with their previous device/phone (there are at least two or three threads floating around on this subject!). This problem will probably get sorted eventually with a new Radio update. However I can't really wait for that and I'm moving my T-Mobile contract to Vodafone. They actually do a pretty good tariff for data, same price as T-Mobile (£7.50 Month) and it just says "subject to fair use" rather than limiting it to 1gb, then again who's to define what "fair use" is?
It's a shame that you think their network "sucks", I already have a PAYG phone on Vodafone and it's fine here, what area are you in?
ukdj78 said:
it just says "subject to fair use" rather than limiting it to 1gb, then again who's to define what "fair use" is?
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I think they say that to prevent you from tethering to a laptop and downloading hundreds of gigs of torrents, I may be wrong but that seems sensible.
ukdj78 said:
They actually do a pretty good tariff for data, same price as T-Mobile (£7.50 Month) and it just says "subject to fair use" rather than limiting it to 1gb, then again who's to define what "fair use" is?
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Er, don't believe it - I'm on Vodafone, and they've only just upped the "fair use" limit to 500Mb. Pathetic. And they won't let me add their "Mobile Broadband" package to my tarrif. Check out their T&C's...
http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispat...pb=true&_pageLabel=template11&pageID=PTC_0050
I wouldn't be too confident about Vodafone for mobile data. In fact, they are the last one I would go with. Every single operator, Vodafone included, advertises "UNLIMITED" mobile data subejct to "fair use". They just vary by monthly charge and the hidden GB limit.
For Vodafone this is actually 500MB. (see http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispat...pb=true&_pageLabel=template11&pageID=PTC_0050 ) Also unlike TMob, the T&Cs say they may charge you extortionate rates if you go over 500MB. Most others will just contact you or else cut you off.
Think that the threat of charging you is just there for show? Try a £500k data bill like this guy and a few others if you go over than 500MB "unlimited" limit. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/16/vodafone_billing_yet_again/
TMob really does seem to still be the best supplier of consumer mobile data in the UK, at least in GBs, with 1GB as standard.
mr_Ray said:
TMob really does seem to still be the best supplier of consumer mobile data in the UK, at least in GBs, with 1GB as standard.
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Beat you to it!
I think "three" have better value packages personally. Get one of their Mobile Broadband packages, and use the sim in your phone... £15 per month for 5Gb is as much as I'd need, but they do bigger or smaller packages too.
You'd have to pay for calls and texts on top, but I get the impression that you could add a call/text bundle...?
Thanks
Thanks a lot for pointing that out guys.
I've just sent an e-mail to Vodafone to cancel my order.
Guy's you do all realise that O2 offer unlimited (fair useage of no specific amount) data packages (web bolt-on's)?
Further to this, their current sim-only online simplicity tariff gives you 600 minutes, 1000 texts, and if you choose a web-bolt on, then free web useage. All for £20 per month (offer ends August when the price goes up to £25)....
Why are you all on vodafone/t-mobile when this offer can't be beaten, surely?
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Guy's you do all realise that O2 offer unlimited (fair useage of no specific amount) data packages (web bolt-on's)?
Further to this, their current sim-only online simplicity tariff gives you 600 minutes, 1000 texts, and if you choose a web-bolt on, then free web useage. All for £20 per month (offer ends August when the price goes up to £25)....
Why are you all on vodafone/t-mobile when this offer can't be beaten, surely?
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Yeah I just had a look at the terms and conditions for the web bundles of all the networks, and like Vodafone, O2 have their terms worded so that if you do go over whatever they consider to be "fair use" they might start charging you. It does say they will "attempt" to contact you first, but what if you're unavailable when they attempt to contact you? They might start charging you anyway!
T-Mobile's terms seem much friendlier in that they specify fair use is 1Gb a month and if you do go over that, they say: "we won't charge you any more, but we may restrict how you can use your plan, depending on how often you go over your amount and by how much."
I'm starting to agree with what Mr Vanx said here now; we might as well stick it out and wait for a radio that works better on T-Mobile. I'm pretty sure they won't release the Vario IV with the same radio as the Touch Pro if it's this bad on T-Mobile, so we can just flash whatever radio version the Vario IV comes out with to our Touch Pros and all should be well I hope!
hmm... Having said all that the O2 simplicity £20 offer does seem very attractive. I might give them a go and if they start charging me for going over my data allowance I'll vote with my feet and go back to T-Mobile, it's only a 30 day contract on sim only deals anyway - part of the reason I like them so much!
o2s FUP is 200mb its clear in there terms :/
Oh and i was also told o2 is GSM only no 3g network :/
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o2s FUP is 200mb its clear in there terms :/
Oh and i was also told o2 is GSM only no 3g network :/
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Erm... I don't know that terms you were looking at???
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffSmallPrint#PayMonthly said:
Data Bolt On Terms
1. The Web Bolt On allows you unlimited use of Telef?nica O2 UK Limited‘s Edge/GPRS/ 3G networks (as applicable to your handset), for personal internet use via your mobile phone. All usage must be for your private, personal and non-commercial purposes. You may not use your SIM Card:
* in, or connected to, any other device including modems;
* to allow the continuous streaming of any audio / video content, enable Voice over Internet (Voip), P2P or file sharing; or
* in such a way that adversely impacts the service to other O2 customers.
If O2 reasonably suspects you are not acting in accordance with this policy O2 reserves the right to impose further charges, impose network protection controls which may reduce your speed of transmission, remove the Web Bolt On from your account or disconnect your tariff at any time, having attempted to contact you first.
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It clearly mentions 3G for a start...
Ahh Ok some missinformation...
Well why does expansys mention only 200mb in there site?
O2 recently (a couple week ago?) ammended their T&C's. There is now no limit on web useage. They also fully support 3G.
I think you need to clarify "no limit on web useage". No such thing as a free lunch etc.
Do they allow you to use phone as a modem?
Are Expansys selling contract phones or unlocked devices?
ferraripassion said:
Are Expansys selling contract phones or unlocked devices?
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As far as I am aware they are unlocked phones with a contract sim attached
NutsyUK said:
Just thought id mention after talking to a connections agent they told me the phones now out of stock... Expect some more in a couple of days.
Don’t believe the website they are out of stock.
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Yes. I am annoyed by that. When I ordered 8am Monday they had 10. By the time the contract stuff was sorted at 4 (I sent their t-mobile form back at 9am), there was none left and it now says 3 days.
Oh well
Digger. said:
I think you need to clarify "no limit on web useage". No such thing as a free lunch etc.
Do they allow you to use phone as a modem?
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Their t&cs are very restrictive no streaming no laptop no business use! Since I use mine for both business and personal I guess I can't use their simplicity tariff.
O2 T&C said:
All usage must be for your private, personal and non-commercial purposes. You may not use your SIM Card:
in, or connected to, any other device including modems;
to allow the continuous streaming of any audio / video content, enable Voice over Internet (Voip), P2P or file sharing; or
in such a way that adversely impacts the service to other O2 customers
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How can they tell teh difference?
Everyone uses there phone for buisness. If anyone says other wise there talking out of there arse.
Also anyone have any dates yet for o2 and there version of the touch pro? Or tmobiles version?

New Fuzer: t-mobile has no 3G? it doesn't appear on my screen?

Hi everyone,
I just bought unlocked HTC fuze and using it on T-mobile's 3G? However, I all i get is Edge connection although I'm in area where there's great 3g coverage?
I called t-mobile's customer care and they're telling me that t-mobile's 3g is nothing but fast Edge???
I read about the radios update and all the stuff here in this forum and I thought that might be the issue, right? wrong? please help.
(( I searched the forum and I didn't find anything related))
somebody correct me if im wrong but that tmobile rep was exactly right. all you can get is E with tmobile.
my buddy is kinda opposite... he has a tmobile g1 on att and it can only get E. the 2 3g networks arent compatible.
im also a fellow t-mobile fuze owner.. i bought my fuze knowing t-mobiles 3g would never work.. only edge.. thats fine with me as my cost is only $6/mo and not $30 for those of you still wondering why and havent run across the answer yet its because t-mobile US 3G uses a one off special frequency at that unfortunately will forever limit the good world phones that everyone else will have
oh man, is that true?
so with t-mobile I will never see 3G on my phone.! besides, I'm paying $30 for the internet. why are you paying less, what's the plan?
When you buy a phone that isn't from your carrier, you should always check which bands it has. The Touch Pro had quadband GSM (EDGE) and only the 3G bands for Europe. The Fuze has tri band 3G which supports AT&T's bands and Europe. No Raphael supports T-Mobile's bands.
thanks to you all.
T-Mobile (US) uses 1700Mhz for there 3G.... AT&T uses 850/1900Mhz... an AT&T Fuze will never connect to T-Mobiles 3G.... the limitations are in the hardware not the software.... so there won't be any "tricks" to make it work....
and bragging about the $6 internet over ATT's $30 internet... is like bragging about having dial-up at home.... yeah,... you pay less..... but for a much slower connection
the frequency on the fuze is different from tmobile so 3g on tmobile wouldn't work on the fuze..its made for att frequency
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and bragging about the $6 internet over ATT's $30 internet... is like bragging about having dial-up at home.... yeah,... you pay less..... but for a much slower connection
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well my $6 internet nets me about 200kbps raw and close to 600k over my custom compression proxy server.. its fast enough for me, streams music and youtube content fine.. theres only so much you can do on a 2.8" screen right?
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well my $6 internet nets me about 200kbps raw and close to 600k over my custom compression proxy server.. its fast enough for me, streams music and youtube content fine.. theres only so much you can do on a 2.8" screen right?
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i get ATTs 30 dollar internet, 20 dollar text and 2000 minutes for only 20 dollars
I'm also on T-mobile with the $5.99 EDGE plan for my Touch Pro. Another perk is that keeping the connection on EDGE only (and using Wifi only when absolutely necessary), I get about 72hr battery life per charge.
If anyone is on the fence about switching to Tmo for the $5.99 plan (versus ditching the Fuze for a G1, or hesitant about paying $30 for AT&T 3G), you may want to act soon. Tmo will grandfather the $5.99 plan for existing users, but will stop offering it to new customers in favor of their new $15 plans.
lbhocky19 said:
i get ATTs 30 dollar internet, 20 dollar text and 2000 minutes for only 20 dollars
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how is this possible??
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and bragging about the $6 internet over ATT's $30 internet... is like bragging about having dial-up at home.... yeah,... you pay less..... but for a much slower connection
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yeah, that may be true now but I've been paying that same $6/mo for years even while Cingular/AT&T only had edge and still charged anywhere from $30-50/mo.. and it was slower than T-Mobile's edge service
lbhocky19 said:
i get ATTs 30 dollar internet, 20 dollar text and 2000 minutes for only 20 dollars
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how is this possible??
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LMAO....i have this too!.... it's called an ANR (employee) Line... but i have to pay an additional $10 for Blackberry Connect because i have to switch back and forth between my Blackberry Bold and my ATT Fuze and Push E-Mail doesn't work on a BB unless you have the proper plan... it's ok though,... for $30 a month we get:
2000 Daytime minutes
Unlimited Text
Unlimited International Text
Unlimited Picture Messaging
Unlimited Media Net
Unlimited Mobile to Mobile
Unlimited Night and Weekends
unlimited BlackBerry Internet
really can't complain.... i really love using every possible feature on my phones... and this plan would kill me financially if i had to pay retail for it..
Black6spdZ said:
well my $6 internet nets me about 200kbps raw and close to 600k over my custom compression proxy server.. its fast enough for me, streams music and youtube content fine.. theres only so much you can do on a 2.8" screen right?
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if your satisfied with your current speed then great.. i was just trying to justify the reason for the $30 ATT Internet charge... as for me i have been able to test 1.4Mbs (www.dslreports.com/mspeed tested with 1MB file) on my Fuze... and i STILL think that's wwwaayyyy to slow.. i stream satellite radio (on Fuze) while driving using an AUX connection (through car speakers).. with just an EDGE connection you'd be buffering much more than actually being able to here the music...
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I'm also on T-mobile with the $5.99 EDGE plan for my Touch Pro. Another perk is that keeping the connection on EDGE only (and using Wifi only when absolutely necessary), I get about 72hr battery life per charge.
If anyone is on the fence about switching to Tmo for the $5.99 plan (versus ditching the Fuze for a G1, or hesitant about paying $30 for AT&T 3G), you may want to act soon. Tmo will grandfather the $5.99 plan for existing users, but will stop offering it to new customers in favor of their new $15 plans.
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After looking at this post, I called Tmobile to add the 5.99 service to my account. The lady that I speaked to said you must had it before to be able to resume the service since they don't even see that as a option for them to choose from. Lucky that I had a lot of lines open with my name and one of them had one of the older internet data plan I signed up for $19.99 and I just B/S with her that it wasn't that expansive and I only paid 5.99 with it. Then she manually added the 5.99 tzone for me. So its right that only existed customer will be able to get it and if you lucky like me to get a nice rep who can help you to add it even you never had it. Now I am waiting for them to set it up and try will it work to use internet with it. My friend told me he used to be able to surf the web but can't received email with it but for the past few months it went the other way around. He only can get email but can't surf the web anymore.
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LMAO....i have this too!.... it's called an ANR (employee) Line... but i have to pay an additional $10 for Blackberry Connect because i have to switch back and forth between my Blackberry Bold and my ATT Fuze and Push E-Mail doesn't work on a BB unless you have the proper plan... it's ok though,... for $30 a month we get:
2000 Daytime minutes
Unlimited Text
Unlimited International Text
Unlimited Picture Messaging
Unlimited Media Net
Unlimited Mobile to Mobile
Unlimited Night and Weekends
unlimited BlackBerry Internet
really can't complain.... i really love using every possible feature on my phones... and this plan would kill me financially if i had to pay retail for it..
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Feel like bragging huh?
Well lemme tell you what I got mr ANR.
UNLIMITED EVERYTHING on all 5 lines and 2 data connect cards.
Wanna know how much I pay
ABSOLUTELY NADA
Same with my Directv, Dsl, Home phone.
Oh Yea, I even have a FEM-TO-CELL Im testing, wanna know what I pay for that?
Yep you guessed it NADA.
Now, wanna guess who I work for?
Sorry I like bragging to.
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Feel like bragging huh?
Well lemme tell you what I got mr ANR.
UNLIMITED EVERYTHING on all 5 lines and 2 data connect cards.
Wanna know how much I pay
ABSOLUTELY NADA
Same with my Directv, Dsl, Home phone.
Oh Yea, I even have a FEM-TO-CELL Im testing, wanna know what I pay for that?
Yep you guessed it NADA.
Now, wanna guess who I work for?
Sorry I like bragging to.
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How did you get all that? lol
How did you get the fuze to work with the 6 per month? I got the service but my fuze is acting like I don't have the service. Is there a special setup for the fuze to get it to work?
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Now, wanna guess who I work for?
Sorry I like bragging to.
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Can I take a guess?
Of course that might be cheating.

[Resolved] UK GSM Provider: Orange or O2?

Im getting a HD2 unlocked for christmas and Im trying to decide something. Which GSM Provider should I use
Which would be the best for me to get for free texts and internet? Orange's dolphin plan will give me free internet and 300 free texts when I top up £10 a month, but with O2 I get unlimited free texts and internet but with £15 a month, so which one would you guys recomend? The plus side to orange is Im already with them on my very old phone
or any other ideas?
I HAVE NEVER GOT 3G/HSPDA ON ANY HTC DEVICE WITH ORANGE EVEN THE ORANGE BRANDED ONES, GO WITH 02 lol
o2 pay as you go is a very good deal but there pay as go setup is a nightmare as they use a proxy to stop pop3, so you have the choice of Web&MMS or Web&Email... I use Web&Email by using a different setup.
Oh and unlimited means 500 megs lol "T&C" and can't mem exact text think 1300 or so...
A good deal @ mo is T-Mo they use same network connection for payasgo as do monthly, £10P/M for Unlimited Web "TAC" 40MB per day and again not sure on Text as found no info..
Just about to change most likely Tom
stylez said:
o2 pay as you go is a very good deal but there pay as go setup is a nightmare as they use a proxy to stop pop3, so you have the choice of Web&MMS or Web&Email... I use Web&Email by using a different setup.
Oh and unlimited means 500 megs lol "T&C" and can't mem exact text think 1300 or so...
A good deal @ mo is T-Mo they use same network connection for payasgo as do monthly, £10P/M for Unlimited Web "TAC" 40MB per day and again not sure on Text as found no info..
Just about to change most likely Tom
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Wait so its only 40mb a day on T-mobile?
and is it 500 megs a day on O2?
thanks
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Wait so its only 40mb a day on T-mobile?
and is it 500 megs a day on O2?
thanks
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500mb per month "aprx 16mb per day" on O2 so T-Mo better offer
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500mb per month "aprx 16mb per day" on O2 so T-Mo better offer
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Ahh I was hoping to get some good downloading done, like a couple 100mb a day sometimes, I guess thats not gonna happen.
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Ahh I was hoping to get some good downloading done, like a couple 100mb a day sometimes, I guess thats not gonna happen.
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Yeah all these pay&go Unlimited deals have a terms & conditions apply.
Might be worth checking out 3 i have no idea what they do as can't get network @ home.
Yeah I'll check them out. Do you know how good the 3g reception is in the west midlands? Worcestershire to be exact. Also are there any problems with T-mobile internet, Ive read it wont let you watch youtube videos as it doesnt fall under the fair use policy, and do you have to install some web and walk manager thing?
So its
O2
Orange
T-mobile
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Hmmm....
I spoke to a T-Mo representative the other day who said the only restriction is 40MB and they use the same connection setup as monthly so should be no probs with YouTube.
O2 place the same kinda terms no use of instant messenger, no email, no tethering blah blah and it goes on and on... But they use a proxy so can stop certain services like previously said i choose email over MMS and get full web access.
Best bet is to ask friends on networks or even look at there online coverage "not that it's always correct"
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I spoke to a T-Mo representative the other day who said the only restriction is 40MB and they use the same connection setup as monthly so should be no probs with YouTube.
O2 place the same kinda terms no use of instant messenger, no email, no tethering blah blah and it goes on and on... But they use a proxy so can stop certain services like previously said i choose email over MMS and get full web access.
Best bet is to ask friends on networks or even look at there online coverage "not that it's always correct"
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Ahh decisions decisions. None of my friends are on PAYG tmobile . So with TMo you can use all networking sites, skype, email, weather for htc hd2, teathering, all that kinda stuff right? I guess its by far the best bet, especailly for £5 less. And is 40mb the most you can get from any provider, is that considered quite alot in 3g internet terms?
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Ahh decisions decisions. None of my friends are on PAYG tmobile . So with TMo you can use all networking sites, skype, email, weather for htc hd2, teathering, all that kinda stuff right? I guess its by far the best bet, especailly for £5 less. And is 40mb the most you can get from any provider, is that considered quite alot in 3g internet terms?
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I'm going to be popping into T-Mo tom, i know that teathering is in there restrictions but if they use same normal network then can't see an issue if you stick within 40MB, will ask as many Q's as possible.
40MB should be per day i used to use a dongle and top up about 1GB per month but that's just surfing and not much downloading ROMs etc...
3G is just the speed of connection it's all equates the same.
Will update with what they say as it's something that O2 stumped me on till twiddled about with connection settings.
stylez said:
I'm going to be popping into T-Mo tom, i know that teathering is in there restrictions but if they use same normal network then can't see an issue if you stick within 40MB, will ask as many Q's as possible.
40MB should be per day i used to use a dongle and top up about 1GB per month but that's just surfing and not much downloading ROMs etc...
3G is just the speed of connection it's all equates the same.
Will update with what they say as it's something that O2 stumped me on till twiddled about with connection settings.
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Ok great thakns, funnily enough, Im going to town tomorrow to get a sim card as well. You say I cant do tethering with tmobile? D: wow that sucks, that was one of the things I really wanted to try out does everything else I listed work ?
Are there any providers who dont restrict you? :/
Went for t-mobile
I went and got there free sim deal. Heres some details
1gb/month (can run over, fair use policy)
Can tether (on the HD2 atleast)
£10 top up required
Same as what i got today along with a Touch Pro and yes teathering allowed as long as don't go over the amount 1GB P/M 40MB Per day
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Same as what i got today along with a Touch Pro and yes teathering allowed as long as don't go over the amount 1GB P/M 40MB Per day
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Yep, but you dont have to restrict it too 4omb a day, strictly speaking you COULD use 995mb in one day, as long as you spread the other 5 mb over the rest of the month
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Im getting a HD2 unlocked for christmas and Im trying to decide something. Which GSM Provider should I use
Which would be the best for me to get for free texts and internet? Orange's dolphin plan will give me free internet and 300 free texts when I top up £10 a month, but with O2 I get unlimited free texts and internet but with £15 a month, so which one would you guys recomend? The plus side to orange is Im already with them on my very old phone
or any other ideas?
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Also depends on the signal you can get. I'm in the East Midlands and have a rock solid 3g signal from home which none of the others can do. I've used TMob for ages now and browse YouTube, email etc a lot and have never had any problem. Their Solo 20 plan looked good and if it wasn't for the fact they upgraded me free to a HD2 I would have probably moved to that..
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I slightly overbaked my reply hence I shall summarise. O2 PAYG web bolt on is absolutely the most terrible unusable thing ever and I wasted 7.50 on it!!!! O2 monthly is by far better. T-mobile PAYG is the only option for internet on this basis. Coming to that realisation makes most of my post redundant lol!!! but it might be of interest to those also considering contract.
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just one note, but you cannot get a text and talk bundle on T-mobile AS WELL AS the unlimited texts and internet.
I think for PAYG T-mobile have the best deal for internet as long as you dont do much calling and just use internet.
If you call then their £20 package gives 300mins+unlimited texts. Then £2.50 for five days of internet access as it opts you out of the texts+internet deal.
I tried the O2 web bolt on with a PAYG sim card and the speeds and quality are dire. In fact it's best to use edge as the negotiation time to start a connection is much speedier than 3G. I only get a few hundre KB on O2 PAYG internet with full 3G. And also most times it simply just stalles after 50KB or so.
As for orange....people rave about them, but got a 3G orange PAYG card and it seems to have worse reception than O2 and T-mobile.
My reception between O2 and T-mobile seems to swing between the two, but orange seems to be consistently lower than either.
I would term O2 as maximin - it will maximise your 2G signal, and often gets 3G where T-mobile fails. However, where T-mobile picks up a signal O2 will be a bar or two behind.
T-mobile is maximax - it will more often give you full 3G bars, but will also disappear much sooner.
I think the T-mobile network from testing is less congested - and their image proxy can be avoided I believe.
For monthly contracts O2 web is good however.
For PAYG T-mobile is by far the best provider.
I will personally go for O2 monthly contract. But if I were going PAYG it would be T-mobile.
For contract:
Orange have the best monthly deal - 1200mins, UT, 500MB, £30 phone for £30pm.
O2: 600mins, 1000T, UWeb, £100 phone, £30pm
T-mobile: 900mins, UT, Uweb, £180 phone, £25pm.
For PAYG:
T-mobile: internet+texts = £10. 25p/10p calls/texts; £20 = 300mins+UTexts
O2: £10 for internet+ 300texts, 25/10p calls/texts; £8.00 = 50mins
Vodafone: £20 is 300mins and 3000 texts, no web package.
Orange: £10 - unlimited internet...well, 50MB a month!!!! how shiste is that?
If you roam to europe however, O2 wins....but its PAYG internet is useless.
There is another option - SIM only 30 day rolling contract...
Sorry I should have asked for this thread to be closed ages ago :3
I went with Tmobile, and I love it, very good signal and plenty of bandwith for what I actually need to do .
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Album art is it for free

Hi, i just wanted to know if the album art from the audio manager of the leo is for free while connected via usb or wifi , it only costs if you have to go online via provider like gprs or 3G or something?!am i right?thank you
charliess said:
Hi, i just wanted to know if the album art from the audio manager of the leo is for free while connected via usb or wifi , it only costs if you have to go online via provider like gprs or 3G or something?!am i right?thank you
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Yeah it'll only cost you if you connect through your data plan.
thank you!
Why people have this phone but don't have an unlimited data plan baffles me.
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Why people have this phone but don't have an unlimited data plan baffles me.
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e.g. in germany an unlimited data plan is normaly unaffordable
what do you pay for your unlimited data plan?
I for one pay £20 per month for 1000 txt, 600 minutes and unlimited data
edit: that's on O2 btw
I don't believe any of the phone providers (certainly in the UK), offer actual unlimited data.
They have the wording "Unlimited Data" but then say that you are bound by their "Fair Usage Policy" which caps the usage.
When I was looking for mine, I looked around and the 4 large providers in the UK
O2 - 200mb (This was a while ago and might be slightly out of date now)
Vodafone -500mb
T-Mobile - 1000mb
Orange - 500mb
All applied the usage policies, but say "Unlimited" on their plan details.
If you are getting true unlimited data (not wifi), it would be interesting to see (certainly for me at least).
in germany i think with vodafone you have to pay at least 35 euro (~32 gbp) for JUST the data plan (there are no free minutes or sms included). and beside the the data plan, you still need a "normal" phone plan/contract, which is appr. another 10 euros at least.
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Why people have this phone but don't have an unlimited data plan baffles me.
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Unlimited data plan?? whoa....what is that?
No such thing as that down here..perhaps another 50 years.
You poms are taking things for granted..
Tmobile UK
I can confirm that Tmobile uk offer 3GB fair usage (however they do not charge you for going over) I have a HD2 and a Diamond 2 both with unlimited data, unlimited texts and 1000 minutes. It sets me back about £30 per handset on the business plan.
As far as I am aware T-Mobile UK only offer 1Gb - to consumers. 3Gb for business users only.
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/terms-and-conditions/combi/
Under Combi on selected phones with free unlimited* internet on your phone
This option comes with a fair use policy of 1GB a month.
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/terms-and-conditions/flext/
Under the very first section it says.
This plan comes with a fair use policy of 1GB a month.
As far as I know, T-Mobile only do 3Gb on G2 (Hero) and Pulse to consumers.
hmm wow it sure is different in other countries..
in singapore here, 12GB data plan + voice plans costs only S$39, which is arnd US$50+..
and 12gb is hardly fully utilised even with tethering.
Hello to all,
Here in Croatia I pay 50 eur and get 3 GB, 400 min, 200 sms and 50 mms, and I can speak for free with all numbers from my company.
Regards
technoglitz87 said:
hmm wow it sure is different in other countries..
in singapore here, 12GB data plan + voice plans costs only S$39, which is arnd US$50+..
and 12gb is hardly fully utilised even with tethering.
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I think you got the conversion wrong. I doubt USD is smaller than SGD at this point in time.
I guess that were kind of spoiled in Sweden.. about 4-5 USD for unlimited data plan, inc HSDPA. About 25 USD i get a twin SIM so i can have unlimited data on 2 sims. Kind of nice imo No mothly cost on the twin sim too btw
EDIT: Well, thats for 500mb. If i add about a 10 USD or so i get unlimited
I have to pay additional 10€/month for my data plan with my german provider.
(Base, its a children of E-Plus)

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