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Is Tmobile going to do this phone

Does anyone know if tmobile UK are going to have a version of the polaris and if so when/name etc.
I am about to upgrade and I would really like this phone but the other UK networks are just not viable for internet usage due to daft tarifs.

i just switched from T-mobile to O2 as it dodn't look they would be doing anything other than the Dual touch or Vario 3.
Shame really.

Do you use a lot fo data. I mainly use my phone for email and internet and I am very nervous about their tarifs and allowances. how are you managing?

O2 offer 200mb free with most of their packages as you probably know. I use it mainly for email and internet browsing for footy results etc. I haven't used anywhere near my 'fair' use allowance but that is maybe because I do most of my surfing at home.

£7.50 bolt on gives u unlimited data allowance with a fair usage policy

nickbro said:
£7.50 bolt on gives u unlimited data allowance with a fair usage policy
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02 unlimited data = 200MB
T-Mobile Unlimited = 1/3/10GB (standard/plus/max)
I'm using TC on T-Mobile. As I've suggested to others on T-Mobile, do as I am, upgrade to a N95/Kaiser and sell it then buy a TC.

Just a slight thread-hijack here (sorry).
Apart from O2, are there any other UK providers that supply the Polaris.
Won't bore you with the details, but will be leaving O2 in the next day or 2 but don't want to be without my Polaris for too long as it's just so God-damn good!!

nahguam said:
02 unlimited data = 200MB
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Is it, When I phoned o2 up to upgrade my contract, I asked for this, and they said that it's been updated but the website is out of date. It's truely unlimited now, just with VoIP and other usage no no's

nickbro said:
Is it, When I phoned o2 up to upgrade my contract, I asked for this, and they said that it's been updated but the website is out of date. It's truely unlimited now, just with VoIP and other usage no no's
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Good if it is now unlimited, but I still think it's against their fair usage to use it as a modem...

nahguam said:
02 unlimited data = 200MB
T-Mobile Unlimited = 1/3/10GB (standard/plus/max)
I'm using TC on T-Mobile. As I've suggested to others on T-Mobile, do as I am, upgrade to a N95/Kaiser and sell it then buy a TC.
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This is interesting. I am on a business tarif and have webnwalk pro - completely unlimited data and I can use it as a modem and for voip etc. so as you can imagine - I really dont want to move to provider as I would be stuffed.

expansys out of stock

Just thought id mention after talking to a connections agent they told me the phones now out of stock... Expect some more in a couple of days.
Don’t believe the website they are out of stock.
Also,
Anyone else finding it really difficult to get good deals and data bundles?
Orange well there orange and seem to be trying to loose there customers.
T-Mobile want to only give you 1gb and seem to make up reasons for not letting you use a laptop. And want to make you pay over 200 quid for the phone for dropping the tariff down to the combi 25 rather than using the 30. I find that a bit sickening.
Oh and are about to set a 17 month minimum waiting period before your allowed to edit your tariff.
o2... Well O2 seem to be buddying up to Iphone and only offer any reasonably good data tariff with that phone only.
Im not even going to bother checking Vodafone’s data tariff as there network simply sucks. Random drop outs for no reason other than being a Vodafone network.
3 are said to piggyback Oranges network so I doubt there’s anything good there.
Am i missing anything?

You'll definitely want to avoid T-Mobile (for the time being at least) as everyone on T-Mobile with a Touch Pro is experiencing a poorer signal than with their previous device/phone (there are at least two or three threads floating around on this subject!). This problem will probably get sorted eventually with a new Radio update. However I can't really wait for that and I'm moving my T-Mobile contract to Vodafone. They actually do a pretty good tariff for data, same price as T-Mobile (£7.50 Month) and it just says "subject to fair use" rather than limiting it to 1gb, then again who's to define what "fair use" is?
It's a shame that you think their network "sucks", I already have a PAYG phone on Vodafone and it's fine here, what area are you in?

ukdj78 said:
it just says "subject to fair use" rather than limiting it to 1gb, then again who's to define what "fair use" is?
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I think they say that to prevent you from tethering to a laptop and downloading hundreds of gigs of torrents, I may be wrong but that seems sensible.

ukdj78 said:
They actually do a pretty good tariff for data, same price as T-Mobile (£7.50 Month) and it just says "subject to fair use" rather than limiting it to 1gb, then again who's to define what "fair use" is?
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Er, don't believe it - I'm on Vodafone, and they've only just upped the "fair use" limit to 500Mb. Pathetic. And they won't let me add their "Mobile Broadband" package to my tarrif. Check out their T&C's...
http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispat...pb=true&_pageLabel=template11&pageID=PTC_0050

I wouldn't be too confident about Vodafone for mobile data. In fact, they are the last one I would go with. Every single operator, Vodafone included, advertises "UNLIMITED" mobile data subejct to "fair use". They just vary by monthly charge and the hidden GB limit.
For Vodafone this is actually 500MB. (see http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispat...pb=true&_pageLabel=template11&pageID=PTC_0050 ) Also unlike TMob, the T&Cs say they may charge you extortionate rates if you go over 500MB. Most others will just contact you or else cut you off.
Think that the threat of charging you is just there for show? Try a £500k data bill like this guy and a few others if you go over than 500MB "unlimited" limit. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/16/vodafone_billing_yet_again/
TMob really does seem to still be the best supplier of consumer mobile data in the UK, at least in GBs, with 1GB as standard.

mr_Ray said:
TMob really does seem to still be the best supplier of consumer mobile data in the UK, at least in GBs, with 1GB as standard.
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Beat you to it!
I think "three" have better value packages personally. Get one of their Mobile Broadband packages, and use the sim in your phone... £15 per month for 5Gb is as much as I'd need, but they do bigger or smaller packages too.
You'd have to pay for calls and texts on top, but I get the impression that you could add a call/text bundle...?

Thanks
Thanks a lot for pointing that out guys.
I've just sent an e-mail to Vodafone to cancel my order.

Guy's you do all realise that O2 offer unlimited (fair useage of no specific amount) data packages (web bolt-on's)?
Further to this, their current sim-only online simplicity tariff gives you 600 minutes, 1000 texts, and if you choose a web-bolt on, then free web useage. All for £20 per month (offer ends August when the price goes up to £25)....
Why are you all on vodafone/t-mobile when this offer can't be beaten, surely?

EViS said:
Guy's you do all realise that O2 offer unlimited (fair useage of no specific amount) data packages (web bolt-on's)?
Further to this, their current sim-only online simplicity tariff gives you 600 minutes, 1000 texts, and if you choose a web-bolt on, then free web useage. All for £20 per month (offer ends August when the price goes up to £25)....
Why are you all on vodafone/t-mobile when this offer can't be beaten, surely?
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Yeah I just had a look at the terms and conditions for the web bundles of all the networks, and like Vodafone, O2 have their terms worded so that if you do go over whatever they consider to be "fair use" they might start charging you. It does say they will "attempt" to contact you first, but what if you're unavailable when they attempt to contact you? They might start charging you anyway!
T-Mobile's terms seem much friendlier in that they specify fair use is 1Gb a month and if you do go over that, they say: "we won't charge you any more, but we may restrict how you can use your plan, depending on how often you go over your amount and by how much."
I'm starting to agree with what Mr Vanx said here now; we might as well stick it out and wait for a radio that works better on T-Mobile. I'm pretty sure they won't release the Vario IV with the same radio as the Touch Pro if it's this bad on T-Mobile, so we can just flash whatever radio version the Vario IV comes out with to our Touch Pros and all should be well I hope!

hmm... Having said all that the O2 simplicity £20 offer does seem very attractive. I might give them a go and if they start charging me for going over my data allowance I'll vote with my feet and go back to T-Mobile, it's only a 30 day contract on sim only deals anyway - part of the reason I like them so much!

o2s FUP is 200mb its clear in there terms :/
Oh and i was also told o2 is GSM only no 3g network :/

NutsyUK said:
o2s FUP is 200mb its clear in there terms :/
Oh and i was also told o2 is GSM only no 3g network :/
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Erm... I don't know that terms you were looking at???
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffSmallPrint#PayMonthly said:
Data Bolt On Terms
1. The Web Bolt On allows you unlimited use of Telef?nica O2 UK Limited‘s Edge/GPRS/ 3G networks (as applicable to your handset), for personal internet use via your mobile phone. All usage must be for your private, personal and non-commercial purposes. You may not use your SIM Card:
* in, or connected to, any other device including modems;
* to allow the continuous streaming of any audio / video content, enable Voice over Internet (Voip), P2P or file sharing; or
* in such a way that adversely impacts the service to other O2 customers.
If O2 reasonably suspects you are not acting in accordance with this policy O2 reserves the right to impose further charges, impose network protection controls which may reduce your speed of transmission, remove the Web Bolt On from your account or disconnect your tariff at any time, having attempted to contact you first.
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It clearly mentions 3G for a start...

Ahh Ok some missinformation...
Well why does expansys mention only 200mb in there site?

O2 recently (a couple week ago?) ammended their T&C's. There is now no limit on web useage. They also fully support 3G.

I think you need to clarify "no limit on web useage". No such thing as a free lunch etc.
Do they allow you to use phone as a modem?

Are Expansys selling contract phones or unlocked devices?

ferraripassion said:
Are Expansys selling contract phones or unlocked devices?
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As far as I am aware they are unlocked phones with a contract sim attached

NutsyUK said:
Just thought id mention after talking to a connections agent they told me the phones now out of stock... Expect some more in a couple of days.
Don’t believe the website they are out of stock.
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Yes. I am annoyed by that. When I ordered 8am Monday they had 10. By the time the contract stuff was sorted at 4 (I sent their t-mobile form back at 9am), there was none left and it now says 3 days.
Oh well

Digger. said:
I think you need to clarify "no limit on web useage". No such thing as a free lunch etc.
Do they allow you to use phone as a modem?
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Their t&cs are very restrictive no streaming no laptop no business use! Since I use mine for both business and personal I guess I can't use their simplicity tariff.
O2 T&C said:
All usage must be for your private, personal and non-commercial purposes. You may not use your SIM Card:
in, or connected to, any other device including modems;
to allow the continuous streaming of any audio / video content, enable Voice over Internet (Voip), P2P or file sharing; or
in such a way that adversely impacts the service to other O2 customers
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How can they tell teh difference?
Everyone uses there phone for buisness. If anyone says other wise there talking out of there arse.
Also anyone have any dates yet for o2 and there version of the touch pro? Or tmobiles version?

New Fuzer: t-mobile has no 3G? it doesn't appear on my screen?

Hi everyone,
I just bought unlocked HTC fuze and using it on T-mobile's 3G? However, I all i get is Edge connection although I'm in area where there's great 3g coverage?
I called t-mobile's customer care and they're telling me that t-mobile's 3g is nothing but fast Edge???
I read about the radios update and all the stuff here in this forum and I thought that might be the issue, right? wrong? please help.
(( I searched the forum and I didn't find anything related))

somebody correct me if im wrong but that tmobile rep was exactly right. all you can get is E with tmobile.
my buddy is kinda opposite... he has a tmobile g1 on att and it can only get E. the 2 3g networks arent compatible.

im also a fellow t-mobile fuze owner.. i bought my fuze knowing t-mobiles 3g would never work.. only edge.. thats fine with me as my cost is only $6/mo and not $30 for those of you still wondering why and havent run across the answer yet its because t-mobile US 3G uses a one off special frequency at that unfortunately will forever limit the good world phones that everyone else will have

oh man, is that true?
so with t-mobile I will never see 3G on my phone.! besides, I'm paying $30 for the internet. why are you paying less, what's the plan?

When you buy a phone that isn't from your carrier, you should always check which bands it has. The Touch Pro had quadband GSM (EDGE) and only the 3G bands for Europe. The Fuze has tri band 3G which supports AT&T's bands and Europe. No Raphael supports T-Mobile's bands.

thanks to you all.

T-Mobile (US) uses 1700Mhz for there 3G.... AT&T uses 850/1900Mhz... an AT&T Fuze will never connect to T-Mobiles 3G.... the limitations are in the hardware not the software.... so there won't be any "tricks" to make it work....
and bragging about the $6 internet over ATT's $30 internet... is like bragging about having dial-up at home.... yeah,... you pay less..... but for a much slower connection

the frequency on the fuze is different from tmobile so 3g on tmobile wouldn't work on the fuze..its made for att frequency

Dash305 said:
and bragging about the $6 internet over ATT's $30 internet... is like bragging about having dial-up at home.... yeah,... you pay less..... but for a much slower connection
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well my $6 internet nets me about 200kbps raw and close to 600k over my custom compression proxy server.. its fast enough for me, streams music and youtube content fine.. theres only so much you can do on a 2.8" screen right?

Black6spdZ said:
well my $6 internet nets me about 200kbps raw and close to 600k over my custom compression proxy server.. its fast enough for me, streams music and youtube content fine.. theres only so much you can do on a 2.8" screen right?
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i get ATTs 30 dollar internet, 20 dollar text and 2000 minutes for only 20 dollars

I'm also on T-mobile with the $5.99 EDGE plan for my Touch Pro. Another perk is that keeping the connection on EDGE only (and using Wifi only when absolutely necessary), I get about 72hr battery life per charge.
If anyone is on the fence about switching to Tmo for the $5.99 plan (versus ditching the Fuze for a G1, or hesitant about paying $30 for AT&T 3G), you may want to act soon. Tmo will grandfather the $5.99 plan for existing users, but will stop offering it to new customers in favor of their new $15 plans.

lbhocky19 said:
i get ATTs 30 dollar internet, 20 dollar text and 2000 minutes for only 20 dollars
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how is this possible??

Dash305 said:
and bragging about the $6 internet over ATT's $30 internet... is like bragging about having dial-up at home.... yeah,... you pay less..... but for a much slower connection
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yeah, that may be true now but I've been paying that same $6/mo for years even while Cingular/AT&T only had edge and still charged anywhere from $30-50/mo.. and it was slower than T-Mobile's edge service

lbhocky19 said:
i get ATTs 30 dollar internet, 20 dollar text and 2000 minutes for only 20 dollars
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how is this possible??
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LMAO....i have this too!.... it's called an ANR (employee) Line... but i have to pay an additional $10 for Blackberry Connect because i have to switch back and forth between my Blackberry Bold and my ATT Fuze and Push E-Mail doesn't work on a BB unless you have the proper plan... it's ok though,... for $30 a month we get:
2000 Daytime minutes
Unlimited Text
Unlimited International Text
Unlimited Picture Messaging
Unlimited Media Net
Unlimited Mobile to Mobile
Unlimited Night and Weekends
unlimited BlackBerry Internet
really can't complain.... i really love using every possible feature on my phones... and this plan would kill me financially if i had to pay retail for it..

Black6spdZ said:
well my $6 internet nets me about 200kbps raw and close to 600k over my custom compression proxy server.. its fast enough for me, streams music and youtube content fine.. theres only so much you can do on a 2.8" screen right?
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if your satisfied with your current speed then great.. i was just trying to justify the reason for the $30 ATT Internet charge... as for me i have been able to test 1.4Mbs (www.dslreports.com/mspeed tested with 1MB file) on my Fuze... and i STILL think that's wwwaayyyy to slow.. i stream satellite radio (on Fuze) while driving using an AUX connection (through car speakers).. with just an EDGE connection you'd be buffering much more than actually being able to here the music...

fhsieh said:
I'm also on T-mobile with the $5.99 EDGE plan for my Touch Pro. Another perk is that keeping the connection on EDGE only (and using Wifi only when absolutely necessary), I get about 72hr battery life per charge.
If anyone is on the fence about switching to Tmo for the $5.99 plan (versus ditching the Fuze for a G1, or hesitant about paying $30 for AT&T 3G), you may want to act soon. Tmo will grandfather the $5.99 plan for existing users, but will stop offering it to new customers in favor of their new $15 plans.
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After looking at this post, I called Tmobile to add the 5.99 service to my account. The lady that I speaked to said you must had it before to be able to resume the service since they don't even see that as a option for them to choose from. Lucky that I had a lot of lines open with my name and one of them had one of the older internet data plan I signed up for $19.99 and I just B/S with her that it wasn't that expansive and I only paid 5.99 with it. Then she manually added the 5.99 tzone for me. So its right that only existed customer will be able to get it and if you lucky like me to get a nice rep who can help you to add it even you never had it. Now I am waiting for them to set it up and try will it work to use internet with it. My friend told me he used to be able to surf the web but can't received email with it but for the past few months it went the other way around. He only can get email but can't surf the web anymore.

Dash305 said:
LMAO....i have this too!.... it's called an ANR (employee) Line... but i have to pay an additional $10 for Blackberry Connect because i have to switch back and forth between my Blackberry Bold and my ATT Fuze and Push E-Mail doesn't work on a BB unless you have the proper plan... it's ok though,... for $30 a month we get:
2000 Daytime minutes
Unlimited Text
Unlimited International Text
Unlimited Picture Messaging
Unlimited Media Net
Unlimited Mobile to Mobile
Unlimited Night and Weekends
unlimited BlackBerry Internet
really can't complain.... i really love using every possible feature on my phones... and this plan would kill me financially if i had to pay retail for it..
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Feel like bragging huh?
Well lemme tell you what I got mr ANR.
UNLIMITED EVERYTHING on all 5 lines and 2 data connect cards.
Wanna know how much I pay
ABSOLUTELY NADA
Same with my Directv, Dsl, Home phone.
Oh Yea, I even have a FEM-TO-CELL Im testing, wanna know what I pay for that?
Yep you guessed it NADA.
Now, wanna guess who I work for?
Sorry I like bragging to.

KD8DNS said:
Feel like bragging huh?
Well lemme tell you what I got mr ANR.
UNLIMITED EVERYTHING on all 5 lines and 2 data connect cards.
Wanna know how much I pay
ABSOLUTELY NADA
Same with my Directv, Dsl, Home phone.
Oh Yea, I even have a FEM-TO-CELL Im testing, wanna know what I pay for that?
Yep you guessed it NADA.
Now, wanna guess who I work for?
Sorry I like bragging to.
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How did you get all that? lol

How did you get the fuze to work with the 6 per month? I got the service but my fuze is acting like I don't have the service. Is there a special setup for the fuze to get it to work?

KD8DNS said:
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Now, wanna guess who I work for?
Sorry I like bragging to.
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Can I take a guess?
Of course that might be cheating.

[Resolved] UK GSM Provider: Orange or O2?

Im getting a HD2 unlocked for christmas and Im trying to decide something. Which GSM Provider should I use
Which would be the best for me to get for free texts and internet? Orange's dolphin plan will give me free internet and 300 free texts when I top up £10 a month, but with O2 I get unlimited free texts and internet but with £15 a month, so which one would you guys recomend? The plus side to orange is Im already with them on my very old phone
or any other ideas?

I HAVE NEVER GOT 3G/HSPDA ON ANY HTC DEVICE WITH ORANGE EVEN THE ORANGE BRANDED ONES, GO WITH 02 lol

o2 pay as you go is a very good deal but there pay as go setup is a nightmare as they use a proxy to stop pop3, so you have the choice of Web&MMS or Web&Email... I use Web&Email by using a different setup.
Oh and unlimited means 500 megs lol "T&C" and can't mem exact text think 1300 or so...
A good deal @ mo is T-Mo they use same network connection for payasgo as do monthly, £10P/M for Unlimited Web "TAC" 40MB per day and again not sure on Text as found no info..
Just about to change most likely Tom

stylez said:
o2 pay as you go is a very good deal but there pay as go setup is a nightmare as they use a proxy to stop pop3, so you have the choice of Web&MMS or Web&Email... I use Web&Email by using a different setup.
Oh and unlimited means 500 megs lol "T&C" and can't mem exact text think 1300 or so...
A good deal @ mo is T-Mo they use same network connection for payasgo as do monthly, £10P/M for Unlimited Web "TAC" 40MB per day and again not sure on Text as found no info..
Just about to change most likely Tom
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Wait so its only 40mb a day on T-mobile?
and is it 500 megs a day on O2?
thanks

[★] said:
Wait so its only 40mb a day on T-mobile?
and is it 500 megs a day on O2?
thanks
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500mb per month "aprx 16mb per day" on O2 so T-Mo better offer

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500mb per month "aprx 16mb per day" on O2 so T-Mo better offer
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Ahh I was hoping to get some good downloading done, like a couple 100mb a day sometimes, I guess thats not gonna happen.

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Ahh I was hoping to get some good downloading done, like a couple 100mb a day sometimes, I guess thats not gonna happen.
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Yeah all these pay&go Unlimited deals have a terms & conditions apply.
Might be worth checking out 3 i have no idea what they do as can't get network @ home.

Yeah I'll check them out. Do you know how good the 3g reception is in the west midlands? Worcestershire to be exact. Also are there any problems with T-mobile internet, Ive read it wont let you watch youtube videos as it doesnt fall under the fair use policy, and do you have to install some web and walk manager thing?
So its
O2
Orange
T-mobile
3
Hmmm....

I spoke to a T-Mo representative the other day who said the only restriction is 40MB and they use the same connection setup as monthly so should be no probs with YouTube.
O2 place the same kinda terms no use of instant messenger, no email, no tethering blah blah and it goes on and on... But they use a proxy so can stop certain services like previously said i choose email over MMS and get full web access.
Best bet is to ask friends on networks or even look at there online coverage "not that it's always correct"

stylez said:
I spoke to a T-Mo representative the other day who said the only restriction is 40MB and they use the same connection setup as monthly so should be no probs with YouTube.
O2 place the same kinda terms no use of instant messenger, no email, no tethering blah blah and it goes on and on... But they use a proxy so can stop certain services like previously said i choose email over MMS and get full web access.
Best bet is to ask friends on networks or even look at there online coverage "not that it's always correct"
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Ahh decisions decisions. None of my friends are on PAYG tmobile . So with TMo you can use all networking sites, skype, email, weather for htc hd2, teathering, all that kinda stuff right? I guess its by far the best bet, especailly for £5 less. And is 40mb the most you can get from any provider, is that considered quite alot in 3g internet terms?

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Ahh decisions decisions. None of my friends are on PAYG tmobile . So with TMo you can use all networking sites, skype, email, weather for htc hd2, teathering, all that kinda stuff right? I guess its by far the best bet, especailly for £5 less. And is 40mb the most you can get from any provider, is that considered quite alot in 3g internet terms?
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I'm going to be popping into T-Mo tom, i know that teathering is in there restrictions but if they use same normal network then can't see an issue if you stick within 40MB, will ask as many Q's as possible.
40MB should be per day i used to use a dongle and top up about 1GB per month but that's just surfing and not much downloading ROMs etc...
3G is just the speed of connection it's all equates the same.
Will update with what they say as it's something that O2 stumped me on till twiddled about with connection settings.

stylez said:
I'm going to be popping into T-Mo tom, i know that teathering is in there restrictions but if they use same normal network then can't see an issue if you stick within 40MB, will ask as many Q's as possible.
40MB should be per day i used to use a dongle and top up about 1GB per month but that's just surfing and not much downloading ROMs etc...
3G is just the speed of connection it's all equates the same.
Will update with what they say as it's something that O2 stumped me on till twiddled about with connection settings.
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Ok great thakns, funnily enough, Im going to town tomorrow to get a sim card as well. You say I cant do tethering with tmobile? D: wow that sucks, that was one of the things I really wanted to try out does everything else I listed work ?
Are there any providers who dont restrict you? :/

Went for t-mobile
I went and got there free sim deal. Heres some details
1gb/month (can run over, fair use policy)
Can tether (on the HD2 atleast)
£10 top up required

Same as what i got today along with a Touch Pro and yes teathering allowed as long as don't go over the amount 1GB P/M 40MB Per day

stylez said:
Same as what i got today along with a Touch Pro and yes teathering allowed as long as don't go over the amount 1GB P/M 40MB Per day
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Yep, but you dont have to restrict it too 4omb a day, strictly speaking you COULD use 995mb in one day, as long as you spread the other 5 mb over the rest of the month

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Im getting a HD2 unlocked for christmas and Im trying to decide something. Which GSM Provider should I use
Which would be the best for me to get for free texts and internet? Orange's dolphin plan will give me free internet and 300 free texts when I top up £10 a month, but with O2 I get unlimited free texts and internet but with £15 a month, so which one would you guys recomend? The plus side to orange is Im already with them on my very old phone
or any other ideas?
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Also depends on the signal you can get. I'm in the East Midlands and have a rock solid 3g signal from home which none of the others can do. I've used TMob for ages now and browse YouTube, email etc a lot and have never had any problem. Their Solo 20 plan looked good and if it wasn't for the fact they upgraded me free to a HD2 I would have probably moved to that..

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I slightly overbaked my reply hence I shall summarise. O2 PAYG web bolt on is absolutely the most terrible unusable thing ever and I wasted 7.50 on it!!!! O2 monthly is by far better. T-mobile PAYG is the only option for internet on this basis. Coming to that realisation makes most of my post redundant lol!!! but it might be of interest to those also considering contract.
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just one note, but you cannot get a text and talk bundle on T-mobile AS WELL AS the unlimited texts and internet.
I think for PAYG T-mobile have the best deal for internet as long as you dont do much calling and just use internet.
If you call then their £20 package gives 300mins+unlimited texts. Then £2.50 for five days of internet access as it opts you out of the texts+internet deal.
I tried the O2 web bolt on with a PAYG sim card and the speeds and quality are dire. In fact it's best to use edge as the negotiation time to start a connection is much speedier than 3G. I only get a few hundre KB on O2 PAYG internet with full 3G. And also most times it simply just stalles after 50KB or so.
As for orange....people rave about them, but got a 3G orange PAYG card and it seems to have worse reception than O2 and T-mobile.
My reception between O2 and T-mobile seems to swing between the two, but orange seems to be consistently lower than either.
I would term O2 as maximin - it will maximise your 2G signal, and often gets 3G where T-mobile fails. However, where T-mobile picks up a signal O2 will be a bar or two behind.
T-mobile is maximax - it will more often give you full 3G bars, but will also disappear much sooner.
I think the T-mobile network from testing is less congested - and their image proxy can be avoided I believe.
For monthly contracts O2 web is good however.
For PAYG T-mobile is by far the best provider.
I will personally go for O2 monthly contract. But if I were going PAYG it would be T-mobile.
For contract:
Orange have the best monthly deal - 1200mins, UT, 500MB, £30 phone for £30pm.
O2: 600mins, 1000T, UWeb, £100 phone, £30pm
T-mobile: 900mins, UT, Uweb, £180 phone, £25pm.
For PAYG:
T-mobile: internet+texts = £10. 25p/10p calls/texts; £20 = 300mins+UTexts
O2: £10 for internet+ 300texts, 25/10p calls/texts; £8.00 = 50mins
Vodafone: £20 is 300mins and 3000 texts, no web package.
Orange: £10 - unlimited internet...well, 50MB a month!!!! how shiste is that?
If you roam to europe however, O2 wins....but its PAYG internet is useless.

There is another option - SIM only 30 day rolling contract...

Sorry I should have asked for this thread to be closed ages ago :3
I went with Tmobile, and I love it, very good signal and plenty of bandwith for what I actually need to do .
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Which UK carrier for SIM only 30 day monthly?

I just got my Nexus One unsubsidised about a week ago. Although it can apply for other phones I guess, but I'm interested what your thoughts are to the UK residents on here at xda. I don't plan on signing a new 12+ month contract because I want to save it in case some newer phone comes along.
My contract on my T-Mobile Vario 3 (kaiser) ran out over half a year ago and have since changed to a 30 day SIM only plan (Solo 20 on T-Mob). I was thinking of changing to O2 as since it's the UK provider that actually supports EDGE nationally. Well Orange I think supports it too but it's not on a national scale I dont' think. I travel fairly often on the motorway as well as on trains so I figured having EDGE available while I go through some countryside would be nice.
All 4 providers offer 600 mins for £20 a month, but Orange doesn't include internet at all, Voda only 500MB, while O2 and T-Mob offer unlimited (with FUP of course). Going lower than £20 a month none of them offer internet as part of the package, which is the main reason I am on the T-Mob £20 pm package.
My typical usage hovers around 300 mins a month, I rarely text, and I mostly use my phone for surfing (news, mail, occasional social sites). Now here is the dilema. Last week T-Mobile just overhauled their SIM only monthly plans. All their plans now allow a choice of flexible boosters, which includes unlimited internet as 1 of them. The boosters are available to even their £10 100 mins plan as well! I am more interested in their £15 plan with 300 mins and choosing the internet booster.
So the question is, do I stick with T-Mobile and change to their £15 plan, goto O2 for £20 with EDGE support, or maybe even goto Vodafone because they are using gnomes to speed their internet speed that I am not aware of?

Why havent you mentioned 3? They have the best 3g or hsdpa coverage in the country and also offer unlimited data.
Only trouble is their customer service call centre is in India and they arent very helpfull.

Thats a good point. I have totally forgotten about 3 for some reason. The £15 package from 3 looks interesting. But as I understand that 3 only uses UTMS (3g) frequencies and does not support GSM (2g) frequencies? Which is the reason they always say that 2g only phones are never supported.

I am using a Shift on O2, 30 day contract sim only which is 14.99 per month + £7.50 for unlimited data. This works well though HSDPA cells are not as frequent as I'd like them (on the North Kent Coast).
My Touch Pro 2 is on T-Mobile payg. Plenty of HSDPA cells wherever I go and as long as I topup 10/month data is unlimited for the following month. This setup works quite well for me.

3 have 2g roaming with orange. If you can't pick up a 3g signal, then it connects to oranges 2g towers. The sim cards will only work in a phone if it has 3g, but it doesn't need to use 3g, (just costs them more if you dont).

im with o2 on a 30 day rolling contract, its great.
for £20 u get 600 mins 1200 texts (600 double texts and 600 single texts) + i have added the unlimited data bolt-on as my free bolt-on.
go with o2 my friend, i have never had a problem with them

Do you have EDGE working on the O2? As it's one of the main reasons for me considering O2 as I don't like to be stuck on GPRS while around the countryside without a 3G signal.
Well I've finally nailed it down to either O2 or 3. 3 for their biggest 3G coverage or O2 for EDGE (if it's confirmed working that is).

Use O2 on pay as go Text & Web pretty much always HSDPA or 3G coverage when go out in the sticks it flips between GPRS & EDGE.
I moved to T-Mobile when purchased Touch Pro but soon went back to O2 as constant connection problems when surfing and problems with signal dropping out.
3 meant to be good coverage but @ home had to go outside house just to get signal.
Orange are good for signal but absolute bismal on data usage p/m.

Makaijin said:
Do you have EDGE working on the O2? As it's one of the main reasons for me considering O2 as I don't like to be stuck on GPRS while around the countryside without a 3G signal.
Well I've finally nailed it down to either O2 or 3. 3 for their biggest 3G coverage or O2 for EDGE (if it's confirmed working that is).
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EDGE works fine, im rarely in a 3g area so i have to use EDGE and GPRS a lot. both work fine.

OK, went over to my mates this afternoon to borrow his O2 sim, he's currently on the £20 30 day so I had a play with that on my Nexus one. EDGE works great on the N1. My brother has a spare 3 Pay & Go card lying around that he dug out just now. Testing on it now. If you turn off 3G it roams on the Orange network in 2G mode which connects with EDGE as well!
Now I'm even more at a loss. O2 is £20 pm with 600 mins, but its over-minutes charges are 20p a min(same for land, and all mobile networks). 3 has £15 for 300 mins, but it's over-minutes to other mobiles are 40p a min, wtf? But 3 does have unlimited skype calls which my girlfriend might like since she calls back to China a lot. My average useage hovers around 300 mins, but I do go over it a bit sometimes. Do I control my phone useage a little bit for better 3G coverage and free Skype calls? Or go with O2 for a little more flexibility in minutes?
Argh! Which to choose, which to choose...

After sleeping over it, I have finally decided to go for O2. I don't like that 3 is too expense for over-minutes call charges, and the fact it has to roam with Orange for 2G. Although free Skype calls is very attractive, my current skype habits doesn't really involve me using it outside of my home anyways.
Thanks for everyone's help and comments.

Makaijin said:
After sleeping over it, I have finally decided to go for O2. I don't like that 3 is too expense for over-minutes call charges, and the fact it has to roam with Orange for 2G. Although free Skype calls is very attractive, my current skype habits doesn't really involve me using it outside of my home anyways.
Thanks for everyone's help and comments.
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I think that's a good choice, I'm on O2, SIM Only for £20 and I get:
700 mins
1400 texts (MMS is 1:4)
My Choice of Bolt On (currently Web but has been Blackberry sometimes)
ITS included
[I got their January offer which upped the online tariff from 600 mins and 1200 texts]
I moved to O2 because I travel quite a bit and in addition to ITS you get:
Text messages to the UK taken from bundle at the rate of 1:4
MMS messages to the UK taken from bundle at the rate of 1:4
You can buy a data bundle currently 10MB/£20 and 50MB/£50 - better than £7.50 per MB that I had to pay with T-Mobile.
Best of all, if you don't like it you can give notice and move.

edenc said:
I am using a Shift on O2, 30 day contract sim only which is 14.99 per month + £7.50 for unlimited data. This works well though HSDPA cells are not as frequent as I'd like them (on the North Kent Coast).
My Touch Pro 2 is on T-Mobile payg. Plenty of HSDPA cells wherever I go and as long as I topup 10/month data is unlimited for the following month. This setup works quite well for me.
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Wouldn't you be better off moving to their £20 per month tariff?

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Wouldn't you be better off moving to their £20 per month tariff?
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Only valid reason for his choice would be that he's using a different inclusive Bolt-On, like unlimited O2 to O2 calls, or maybe unlimited weekend calls? Having just checked, things like unlimited internet can be paid extras whereas things like unlimited O2 to O2 you can only take up with your inclusive Bolt-On.

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Only valid reason for his choice would be that he's using a different inclusive Bolt-On, like unlimited O2 to O2 calls, or maybe unlimited weekend calls? Having just checked, things like unlimited internet can be paid extras whereas things like unlimited O2 to O2 you can only take up with your inclusive Bolt-On.
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Ahh, yes. Good point.
Thanks

Well, just to keep this thread alive, yesteday Vodafone just updated some of their 30 day plans. One interesting plan is a £25 pm plan that comes with 1GB internet and WiFi with BT Openzone.
With 4 of the major providers updating their plans since January, it'll interesting what Orange will come up with if they do update their packages.
Ah, the wonders of 30 day contracts.

Makaijin said:
Well, just to keep this thread alive, yesteday Vodafone just updated some of their 30 day plans. One interesting plan is a £25 pm plan that comes with 1GB internet and WiFi with BT Openzone.
With 4 of the major providers updating their plans since January, it'll interesting what Orange will come up with if they do update their packages.
Ah, the wonders of 30 day contracts.
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That 1GB plan looks like an iPhone plan. I asked them about their contract plans with 1GB data, etc last month and they said that you could only get them with an iPhone but since these are SIM Only it should be possible to use them with any phone (unless Vodafone try and restrict the device somehow).

Makaijin said:
After sleeping over it, I have finally decided to go for O2. I don't like that 3 is too expense for over-minutes call charges, and the fact it has to roam with Orange for 2G. Although free Skype calls is very attractive, my current skype habits doesn't really involve me using it outside of my home anyways.
Thanks for everyone's help and comments.
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You do realise that all "Free Skype Calls" means is that they allow you to use the internet freely to make skype to skype calls using their app?
You'll get the same on o2 seeing as how you're getting an internet bolt on, all you need to do is get a Skype app.

Actually no. The 3 version of the skype app actually dials out a number and doesn't connect via 3G internet nor via wifi if it's available. It reroutes the voice data using a voice connection within the 3 network. The IM portion of skype still uses the 3G data network though. According to my brother, using skype voice via 3 is a really good experience. You don't get drop-outs at all, unlike when you are in a car travelling and it switches cells and/or the connection switches between HSDPA and EDGE etc. Plus all other 4 major carriers have ToC's explicitly restricting VoIP use, although none of them actively block out VoIP apps atm.