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Raphael hardware keys, remapping?

Has anyone come up with working solution for mapping hw keys?
I found this thread on Diamond, but no help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398280

I am using AEKMap to enable both latin/cyrillic input on my TP's hw keyboard. You may google it and give it a try.

There is no need for additional software, just follow this post and you'll get the answer. Worked for me.

Try AE Button Plus.
B.

I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).

Taajuus said:
I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).
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And that is EXACTLY what i also want to know....
The total lack of hardware-keys on this device is already disturbing enough, but being locked out of the option to remap any of them is truely horrid...
Anyone know of any reg-hacks maybe?

I've got Spb PocketPlus 4 installed btw, and it's got a button mapping function as well...
But when i go into the buttons map, some weird black icons appear with no name attached to it. Can anyone make anything of this? As you can see i've been able to map one thing only: the Spb close-button-contex-menu, which allows me to switch task KW-buttons only....
But this is not enough for me, i need ALT-TAB aswell and off course a VoiceCommand button.
And regrettably the Rapael doesn't have that many HW keys to start with...

I want also to use Home/Back buttons for different purposes,but I didn;t found a solution yet.

Gotten a step closer to what i really need over this weekend:
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
So far, this setup is to my satisfaction, and after two months of use this phone finaly behaves completely the way i want it to...

Hi, guys.
See my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2743845#post2743845
Hope this helps!
Cheers.

helped realy much !!! big thx for that nice instructions

You're very welcome, tk_berlin.
You be sure to let me know if anything in there doesn't make sense or you need any help with it.
Cheers from Canada!

ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
Since the other htc user ,) wrote
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool

ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
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Lol. I was on my machine all morning and had XDA open in one of my tabs.
Yes, you can map practically any button in AEBPlus no problem.
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
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AEBP will also *learn* any keys it doesn't have. So you could use the "Add Button" option, press your Home key, and away you go.
The way I have it set up, holding down the phone key will activate voice command (default behavior).
But remember, assigning commands to the Home or OK buttons (that "Back" button is actually an "OK" button) doesn't unmap what they normally do so you will always go home first and then it will perform <x>-function that you assign.
Personally, I don't like to program the Home or OK buttons because I find that they are "trickier" to press. What I mean is, if you tap the OK button near it's center or close to the left, it doesn't register a press. If you tap it sort of with the long part of your thumb (which is more natural when holding the device in one hand), it registers it. I've tried this with two TP's now and the button behaved the same way on both. Due to this, I find it unreliable to map anything to it.
In any case, as I mentioned earlier, the Volume buttons, Phone and End keys will be unmapped once you attach AEBP to them but the others will not.
Oh -- I forgot to mention, you can map the directional pad as well if that is your thing.
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool
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It does work, but it sends an OK command first.
I wrote a little utility for hard-coded buttons such as these for another Pocket PC I had (an ASUS P527) called "DoNothing.exe" but we can't apply that work-around here. What I would do is replace the EXEs of apps the hardware keys called with my DoNothing.exe, but in the case of the TP, we definitely don't want to replace START.EXE (which I believe to be the likely EXE (haven't tested this)).
If I find a way to map those buttons reliably, I will let you know, tk_Berlin. So far tho, I've been quite pleased with just using the four buttons I mentioned. The more I use this device and the more I ponder my decision to stay with TFL3D instead of the normal WM interface, the more I realize that I don't need half the add-ons I used to use prior to having TF3D. I am accustomed to very, very, very *heavily* customizing my device, but the setup I have now works great and I really haven't lost nething from my old WM world. In fact, prolly gained a few CPU cycles and memory to boot.
I don't miss the Today Screen at all!!! Now that I think about it, I never really looked at it.
Cya!

Closing program with hw-key, goddommit!

Im slowly going mad with Raphael, HTC didnt make this easy for me.
I only want simple things. Like, one hw-button on top panel of device, that really closes program. I mean REALLY, and EVERY TIME. Not casually, or just leave it hanging there on the background.
But no, this is a luxury I cant have. I always have to try to hit my big thumb into little X at right upper corner.
Lets have an example. Fire up File Explorer. Ok Im done with it and want to close program (by pressing nice and big hw-key, not aiming for small X). Options:
1. I press Home-button. I'm back at home screen and File Explorer running on background.
2. I press Back-button. I'm back at home screen and File Explorer running on background.
3. I press Endcall-button. I'm back at home screen and File Explorer running on background.
...Seriously, WTF??? Why do we have THREE hw-buttons in top panel of Raphael, that do exactly the same thing? And as far as I have observerd, there is no really good solutions yet for remapping these hw-keys.
All I want is:
1. Button that takes me back to Home-screen (obviously Home-button)
2. Button that changes from program to another (alt+tab, I could use Back-button for this)
3. Button that really closes program (obvious choise would be Endcall-button).
Goddommit.

The Back button is really the OK button from previous devices like the Hermes. I agree the Home button is probably useless, but I suppose it's a fast way to get to the Home screen when you're in a call, since pressing Hangup while you're in a call will... hangup the current call.
With all the RAM in the device, is there any reason to really close any apps?

AEBPlus can handle all of them,but the Back button not. Unfortunately the Home button can be handled,but after hitting it,it jumps to Todayscreen and makes the command defined in AEBPlus,so it is unusable. I want to use those 2 buttons for something different as well as some of the keys on keyboard(SMS to OK/Close). As I don't understant 3 buttons for same functions,I don't understand,why we have 2 hw-keys for entering the messaging on the keyboard.

Taajuus said:
All I want is:
1. Button that takes me back to Home-screen (obviously Home-button)
2. Button that changes from program to another (alt+tab, I could use Back-button for this)
3. Button that really closes program (obvious choise would be Endcall-button).
Goddommit.
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Now that would be perfect in my eyes

Keep GPS running when screen is off

I use Ozi Explorer as a Offroad Navigation System with voice guidance - normaly. But at the topaz, gps is off at the moment, the screen is off. (On my former P525, GPS kept running).
Is there a tweak to keep GPS running, without having the screen to be on??

Zisko said:
I use Ozi Explorer as a Offroad Navigation System with voice guidance - normaly. But at the topaz, gps is off at the moment, the screen is off. (On my former P525, GPS kept running).
Is there a tweak to keep GPS running, without having the screen to be on??
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i'm looking for this to a wile but ditend found anything there is a tweak for the touch diamond
but it dont work on TD2 i'm hoping too sombody now howe to do it

roosen said:
i'm looking for this to a wile but ditend found anything there is a tweak for the touch diamond
but it dont work on TD2 i'm hoping too sombody now howe to do it
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yes, it would be nice to find someone for this particular problem.
For the Diamond I. where can we find this solution???

Zisko said:
I use Ozi Explorer as a Offroad Navigation System with voice guidance - normaly. But at the topaz, gps is off at the moment, the screen is off. (On my former P525, GPS kept running).
Is there a tweak to keep GPS running, without having the screen to be on??
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Hello
I ran into the same issue with ozi explorer. And the solution that work for me is:
-In Ozi, from the filemenu, choose "lock/display" then "display off".
-Then press the hardware "hang up/home"button once. (this takes you back to home screen, (of course you can´t see it though because the screen is off ).
-Then hold down homebutton again until the phone vibrates and the keylock is activated.
Now you can´t accidentally press any keys.
To wake it up, simply use the standard button on top of the phone, deactivate key lock. And re-enter Ozi.
For me It works fine, Gps keeps the fix, so i can record tracks while screen is off.
Hope It helps u

I'm using this cab to use the gps when device is in standby. I don't know if it is good for what you want. I've got it from here, in xda-devs forum, but I don't remember the topic. Simply put the exe file to your device (storage card or device) and run it. Press ON and then close it. If you want to revert, just run the program again and press OFF and close it.

shumilica said:
I'm using this cab to use the gps when device is in standby. I don't know if it is good for what you want. I've got it from here, in xda-devs forum, but I don't remember the topic. Simply put the exe file to your device (storage card or device) and run it. Press ON and then close it. If you want to revert, just run the program again and press OFF and close it.
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..thanks; can you tell me what the exe file exact does???
Thanks,
Chris

I must admit I've never had a problem with GPS when the phone goes into standby. I use sportypal for tracking my runs (ugh - that sounds gross, but honestly it's not!!) and it always continues to log my progress even in standby.

Memory Map
I use Memory Map when out cycling. I start the program, then press the power button to switch off the screen. At the end of my journey, I press the power button to re-activate the screen. The whole journey is logged.
I didn't need to add anything to my Topaz, so I guess the problem is with Ozi Explorer.

chris5s said:
I must admit I've never had a problem with GPS when the phone goes into standby. I use sportypal for tracking my runs (ugh - that sounds gross, but honestly it's not!!) and it always continues to log my progress even in standby.
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Is Sportypal installed internally or on storage card?

mrTablet said:
Is Sportypal installed internally or on storage card?
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Storage card

WM 6.5 new UI - app close and task manager.

I've tried a bunch of new 6.5 UI roms and I am facing this problem with all of them.
1. The OK button (bottom right) does not close applications. It simply minimizes them. This is really frustrating since I dont know what apps are open until i pull up the task manager. This also drains battery life. How do i make the OK button close an app? (detailed instructions appreciated)
2. The earlier UI used to have a quick task manager on the top right corner from which we could switch apps and close them. that doesnt come anymore, instead i get this new and useless notification bar. How do i make it show the quick task manager? (detailed instructions appreciated)
The above 2 make it really annoying to switch/close apps because once u minimize, the only way to go back to them it seems is to pull up dot fred task manager.
3. Pressing the home button on the device while running an app (the home iconed hardware button under the screen) takes me to the opened start menu not the home screen. when i exit out of the start menu it takes me back to the app, so i cannot access my homescreen unless i press ok on the app and minimize it, is there any way to make the hom button take me to the homescreen?
Thank you in advance?

1 & 2 : use showcase : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4030896
3 : use end button instead of home (which is an HTC non-sense, get the start menu like your rom is configured is really a better idea)

fantastic app - showcase. that solves my task manager problem, but i still have to press start, go to apps and press showcase to bring it up, can i have it mapped on the notification area so i can simply fire it up without having to go to the start menu?
thanks.

I have been having issues with Showcase not wanting to install or run properly on the newest 6.5 build 23071. If I load v1.0.1 It will work for the most part and I can configure it to still to close a program by clicking on the clock.. How ever when I switch to the newer 1.1.0 build I can not get the lower X to close thing like it should by either holding it or by setting to single tap.
I'm currently doing a hard reset because of trying taskfacade and trying to go back to Showcase.

i just installed 1.1.0 and it seems to be working fine. i even managed to figure out how to bring it up from any app. just tap and hold the win key and it comes up. very nice software.

Ya I have it back up and working. The only other issue to look forward to with Showcase is that some report it closing tmail.exe from time to time. I also map my PTT short press to open it for those programs that take the full screen and do not have the Windows icon.

You can also check out AEButton+. You have to pay for it, but it's pretty cheap. I got it last week, and have no idea why I didn't get it sooner. Haven't tried it on the newer com3 builds yet (still using com2), but I'm pretty sure it will close things. It isn't tied into the displaced 'X' button like a lot of task managers. You can close apps with a button push, and it also has a nice little task manager pop-up that you can also map to a button push (similar to the htc quick menu). You also get ~dozen more mappable button pushes on a fuze. It's really worth it, although I haven't tried a com3/4 6.5 build yet.

Newer WM6.5.1 builds such as 23071... clicking on the clock brings up the new drop down taskbar...
Running HTC Task Manager, you have to tap and hold, then release to get the task manager to shop up. Does Showcase experience this as well?
It seems to be with the new builds. I would assume Showcase would function the same.

Why don't you people just use inbuilt taskmanager.exe from Windows folder? I've configured it to open with long press "send" key (talk button), and it's working great.

I use aebutton and tie it to my Ok/Back key to close apps and it's working like a treat. that's the best way to really close apps I feel

i have a custom winmo 6.5 rom aslo, everything runs good on it, except the onscreen keyboard is useless now, all i can seem to enter are numbers only and i have messed with the input settings to see if that can correct it and so far to no avail or maybe im just one of the weird people who actualy use the onscreen compact qwerty i dunno.

No menu button?

Is there any way to force a menu button entry? Many older programs such as Scumm Vm do not have on-screen menus of any kind of rely on the button.
How can I play Full Throttle now!?!?!?! Good god the calamity.

bonapartist said:
Is there any way to force a menu button entry? Many older programs such as Scumm Vm do not have on-screen menus of any kind of rely on the button.
How can I play Full Throttle now!?!?!?! Good god the calamity.
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'Y' should be acting as a menu button. Unless ScummVM maps it to something else, it should bring the menu up.

Gnurou said:
'Y' should be acting as a menu button. Unless ScummVM maps it to something else, it should bring the menu up.
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AFAIK ScummVM is a derelict project - fully functioning and fully featured but no longer updated. It will likely never have anyone tailoring Shield support for it. So I have no way whatsoever to access the menu once in game, and hence no way to save or load, making most games essentially fruitless to play given their nature as long graphic adventures. I think the exclusion of a menu button is a bummer and a deficiency. They could of coded so a double press of the Nvidia button registers as a menu press, or something akin to that; knowing how cool Nvidia is, I imagine they'll either add this in, or their openness about the Shield will allow a custom rom to force it in... Still, it's a bummer right now that ScummVM is essentially "broken" on the Shield. 15+ years of superb graphic adventures.. Nuts.
I know the menu button is no longer a requirement on Android devices, but I for one am very sorry to see it go, even outside of implications for old Android applications that do not get freqeuent updates such as ScummVM.
Also the lack of a menu button means I can't bring up the keyboard at will in apps such as Dosbox! That's a huge problem! Being able to bring up the keyboard whenever you want was useful in many, many applications, I don't know why they would ever eliminate that.

I've yet to try SCUMM on the shield but there isn't a way to bring it up by swiping the screen?
On Dosbox, the keyboard can be brought up by swiping down from the top of the screen. Maybe it can be done somehow with ScUMM.

saiyan23 said:
I've yet to try SCUMM on the shield but there isn't a way to bring it up by swiping the screen?
On Dosbox, the keyboard can be brought up by swiping down from the top of the screen. Maybe it can be done somehow with ScUMM.
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Is there an App like Button savior which has a menu button?? I use that app on my nook tablet which only has one button but I don't recall there being a menu button

If you're rooted you can use tincore keymapper and make whatever button you want into the menu button. Just run it when you run the emulator.
"Home 2 shortcut" could also work. Like someone above said it could assign menu to double tap of the home button. I've not tried it on the shield though. Though I'm not sure it can be used like this...It might only work to launch apps.

My FIrsthand Solution
bonapartist said:
Is there any way to force a menu button entry? Many older programs such as Scumm Vm do not have on-screen menus of any kind of rely on the button.
How can I play Full Throttle now!?!?!?! Good god the calamity.
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I know this is an old post, but it came up on google when I was trying to resolve this problem myself. I decided to sign up and post the solution I found incase someone else searches the web trying to fix this problem.
I'm using the Nvidia Shield, but i believe this Build of ScummVM resolves problems for a lot of Android Devices:
google: ScummVm svn55436 1-1-0-7 (I Can't post links as a new user)
This is a stand-alone version of ScummVm, it offers an onscreen keyboard, as well as the ability to map buttons--resolving the issue of accessing a menu to save/load your game progress
Here is what I did using Nvidia Shield:
1. unistalled any Scumm apps I had
2. Using the chrome browser I went to: H TTP anddev.at.ua/load/scummvm_svn55436/1-1-0-7 (OR) google: ScummVM svn55436 1-1-0-7 (Again, I Can't post links as a new user)
the download link is at the top of the post
3. I went to settings>security> Check "Unknown Sources" UnCheck "Verify apps"
(This prevents Android from blocking installation switch these settings back after step 4.)
4. I then went to apps>downloads> and clicked "7_scummvm-sdl-1.7.apk" to install it
5. once installed I opened the program, I spent sometime configuring things in a trial by error fashion
Here's my configuration settings to my best recollection:
1. Video Settings> Check--Keep 4:3 screen aspect ratio
2. Mouse Emulation> Calibrate Touchscreen
3.Remap Physical Keys> (I pressed the "left shoulder" button on my gamepad)> Select Action> (scroll down) Show all Keycodes> then select "F5" <<<<This Lets you access the menu so you can SAVE/LOAD!!!!!

Were you able to use the analog stick to control the cursor? Mine acts very erratic. I followed your instructions and scumm works fine but I just that issue.

saiyan23 said:
Were you able to use the analog stick to control the cursor? Mine acts very erratic. I followed your instructions and scumm works fine but I just that issue.
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I've been able to get by just fine using the touchscreen. The joystick is a little funky on me too, any movement tends to send the cursor drifting offscreen.
The guy who did this build, I believe, designed it for android devices in general and not specifically for the Shield, so if you want the analog joystick working you might be s-o-l.
I have to say though, the touchscreen is working pretty good for me--I'd give it shot and try to get used to it.