cleaning up a shipped rom... - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

im trying to cook my own rom by editing the att shipped rom... i tried starting from alex's att 1.61 rom but when i flashed my phone, i couldnt find the camera app, and there was these glitches... so want to try making my own rom by deleting the bloatware and then adding packages.. but then i dont know how to delete them. i already dumped the rom and i already picked out the packages that i want to install to the rom, my problem is the extracting/removing of default packages that came with the rom. any suggestions?

doing what you want to do requires a lot of understanding of cooking. Not sure if you mean by changing registry files, removing particular files, or what. It take some time learning. I consider myself being around for a while, and I'm not at that stage. If I wanted to do what you do, find a package with the stuff you want to delete, and look for those files in the SYS or OEM folder and delete them.

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Rom cooking on Vox

Hi all, I've been trying for quite some time to cook my first rom. I've now read a lot on the subjects here on these forums but it seems the vox is not the easiest device to start with I've successfully extracted all files from an .nbh rom upgrade. I've then extracted everything to /dump folder using prepare_imgfs.exe and imgfstodump.exe. Here I can delete/change/add files in the directory and rebuild the rom with buildimgfs.exe but it is not a very clean cooking... I'd like to be able to use Package tool. Actually I can use it and get the two folders /OEM and /SYS but then I really don't know how to rebuild the rom using Buildos.exe. Does anyone know how to do this ?
Tell me if my english is not very understandable..
I've finally been able to use these tools after a lot of trials and errors. But there is a lot of fixing to do in the building process. For exemple after running OEM and SYS folders through BuildOs a lot of files are missing in temp\dump
It seems every important file is missing in each of the subfolders. Missing dll's, missing exe's...
For example if I look in the zlib.dll\ directory I can see 5 files : imageinfo.bin, imageinfo.txt, S000, S001, S002, S003 BUT no zlib.dll ?! So I have to manually reimport those files... Is this a known issue with buildos and if so is there any solution to it ?
Thanks for any help
My bad, just realised reimporting the dlls is not at all needed
Still speaking alone ?
Perhaps this thread from the Kaiser forum helps you.
Dr Gonzo.... i would have lied to said something but my knowledge of cooking ROMs is zilch.... but i was hoping someones cooks a ROM for the Vox ... so wanted to ask u how its going?
I've been able to build an awkward "kitchen" for the Vox but I don't know yet if the roms built with it are really stable. Awkward because I don't really know how to write batch files and because I had to add a .dsm taken from Bepe's kitchen for Buildos.exe to work (but I delete it once the dump folder is rebuilt). But I have been able to add/remove packages and it seems to work.
I am currently building my rom from the Arabic one with smarttoolkit included, custom system screens, commanager and homescreen, office and HTC audio manager removed, windows live updated, Jbed instead of Jeodek etc... It seems to be stable but some things don't work yet (I still need to edit the registry)
But what I'd really like would be the possibility to add Bigstorage to the rom as it increases free memory from what I've read.
Maybe I can release this kitchen with some instructions and someone better than me could improve it ?
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Yeah that would be awesome to get some Vox Rom cooking happening when can you post your kitchen?
I'm in the process of writing a quick guide to go along my very dirty kitchen to show how to use it. For the moment only with HTC_Vox_ARA_1.27.415.4_4.1.13.47_02.98.90 as a base rom because I haven't tested anything else yet.

Need Kitchen Help

Ok I need a few opinions.
I am wanting to find out who has the easy and the best Kitchen.
I want to take a "nk.nbf" and edit it.
I want to remove packages that are in there and add others.
I have "TNT.1933_Professional___HTC_Home_Wizard" Rom I have tryed to use "HyperCore Kitchen" but could not get the rom to work.
I took the original ron, extracted it and then re made it (With out changing anything) to see if I was doing it the correct way, but after I loaded the rom it locks up after it posts the ver screen.
Is this the rom I am using or the way I am using it. Or is it the kitchen.
I really want to learn to make my own. So if some one has time to walk me though it I would be ever so greatfull.
I have searched and search the site and most walkthroughs apply to old vers of kitchens. I still tryed to follow them but cant get a rom to work. I know I must be missing something somewhere.
- Albert
I don't think you have the .rgu's
If the chef deletes the .rgu files you can't rebuild his rom the easy way. You should either seek a rom that has all the files or ask the maker to share them.
Ok thank you
Yep, a lot of the roms have the .rgu files removed. You can use my cooking pack or I recall that there was a Lite version of TNT that was meant for cooking that would still ahve the .rgu files (but then you'll have to get the packages to put in it what you want). Then of course there is theloon's kitchen stuff which has tons of packages and all.

A few questions to all you chefs out there

I have been toying with the idea recently of brewing a ROM that is entirely my own, something that fits my needs perfectly. However, I am having trouble figuring how to go about doing so.
1. Basically, what I want to do is to start with a stock AT&T ROM, strip everything out of it, then only add back in what I use. It would seem simple enough, however what gets me is that when I extract the AT&T ROM, most of the applications seem to be contained within the OEMAPPS folder, with no simple way to sort through it. Sure I could just delete the folder and re add what I want, but thats not exactly what I had in mind. I would really like to pull out all the apps from that folder into their own individual folders so that I can keep anything if I feel like it while not having to keep everything. Does anyone know how to do this, or if there is any way other than doing it manually?
2. If I want to have registry tweaks installed on the ROM, what is the best way to go about doing so?
3. I have been searching and searching, but I cannot seem to figure out where the image that appears after the device splash screen is stored. Can someone point me in the right direction? I know Alex has his own custom image. EDIT: I am referring to the Welcome Screen.
4. When I previously cooked ROMs using the kitchen, it seems to retain the version number of the ROM that I based mine off of. Does anyone know the reason for this?
Yeah, a lot of questions I know, but once I get my ROM finished, I'll be sure to release it here.
Best thing I can recommend to you is try Alex's ROM Cooking tutorial. His ROM is AT&T ROM stripped. All apps are in OEM format so you can re-add as needed. The process of stripping the OEM apps is complicated and you need to find all files associated with a certain program.
Alex already did this so why do it again? You get a fully stripped ROM.
For the registry tweaks take a look at the OEM Packages included with Alex's ROM Cooking tutorial. There are several registry tweaks he has included so you can take a look at it and create you own from that.
The splash/welcome screen is called welcomehead.96.png. It's in the \Windows folder. You can cook your own by replacing the file in "SYS\Redist_dpi_96_resh_240_resv_320" folder if you use Alex's ROM tutorial. It's probably the same for other ROMS if you extracted your own but I haven't tried this. I replaced it so each time I create a ROM it's already there.
As for the ROM version you can change it (I think). In the OEM folder there's an OEMVERSION that contains a .provxml file. You can edit that and you'll see a version number.
Hope that helps.
Right, I know Alex has already released a completly stripped down version, but I really just want to cook something entirely of my own. Not that I dislike Alex's package, but I really would just like to do the work entirely by myself so that I can know all of the changes that were made, and how they were done. It gives me the kind of flexibility that I would like. Also, Alex has made some of his own changes to his UltraClean, so I don't have the level of control that I want.

Rom cooking question

I am trying to clean up a rom I've cooked off Alex's MM rom.
I have removed some directories from SYS to get rid of specific apps I don't need.
The rom still creates "Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Apps" even though there are no programs that go in there.
My question is, how do I stop the kitchen from adding that directory to the rom?
Thanks in advance.

Confused on some things when cooking!!

I've started trying my hand at cooking some of my own ROMs over the past couple of days and have gotten confused on some stuff. I've been following the both the Wiki's and the threads on cooking but none of them seem to point it out so here goes.
1) I'm trying to use a base ROM such as this one or this one and have been successful in both dumping them and cooking them using Alex's latest revision of KaiserKitchen and his apps. When I am including the os.nbh file during the cooking process, should it be the one that comes up in the main KaiserKitchen folder or the one that is located in the BASEROM folder? Is either of those files just the OS part of the ROM without all the applications and such?
2) After cooking and successfully flashing either of the two before mentioned ROMs I will always get the auto-installer which occurs on a default ROM. The problem is is that none of the defined packages that I've chosen in the cooking process will be installed when the ROM is flashed. Why is this? Is there something that I should be doing that I'm not doing now that will allow this?
I would greatly appreciate any help in this as I want to become an avid chef but want to learn the ropes first. I've been toying around with it and wanted to get a decent collection of base ROMs and understand them before I start customizing them and such. Again, any help would be thoroughly appreciative and love what you guys are doing here.
HEdwards2008 said:
I've started trying my hand at cooking some of my own ROMs over the past couple of days and have gotten confused on some stuff. I've been following the both the Wiki's and the threads on cooking but none of them seem to point it out so here goes.
1) I'm trying to use a base ROM such as this one or this one and have been successful in both dumping them and cooking them using Alex's latest revision of KaiserKitchen and his apps. When I am including the os.nbh file during the cooking process, should it be the one that comes up in the main KaiserKitchen folder or the one that is located in the BASEROM folder? Is either of those files just the OS part of the ROM without all the applications and such?
2) After cooking and successfully flashing either of the two before mentioned ROMs I will always get the auto-installer which occurs on a default ROM. The problem is is that none of the defined packages that I've chosen in the cooking process will be installed when the ROM is flashed. Why is this? Is there something that I should be doing that I'm not doing now that will allow this?
I would greatly appreciate any help in this as I want to become an avid chef but want to learn the ropes first. I've been toying around with it and wanted to get a decent collection of base ROMs and understand them before I start customizing them and such. Again, any help would be thoroughly appreciative and love what you guys are doing here.
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os.nb should be in base rom with RUU_signed.nbh(once youve extracted) The File that is generated during ervius package tools is OS-new.nb-this is your new os. Kaiser Wiki has all info.
yardie.spike said:
os.nb should be in base rom with RUU_signed.nbh(once youve extracted) The File that is generated during ervius package tools is OS-new.nb-this is your new os. Kaiser Wiki has all info.
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I've been searching the Wiki like crazy and I guess I am just confused on it. So OS-new.nb is the OS ROM with all of the packages, Which one would be just the OS itself? The os.nb file in the BASEROM folder?
HEdwards2008 said:
I've been searching the Wiki like crazy and I guess I am just confused on it. So OS-new.nb is the OS ROM with all of the packages, Which one would be just the OS itself? The os.nb file in the BASEROM folder?
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Yeah, but dont worry about os.nb in base rom folder, unless you dont want to mod the rom and just add your fave radio/splash/spl. If thats all you want to do then recomplile using htcrt.exe in tools folder. OS .nb is what is extracted into OEM SYS and ROM folders in the kaiserkitchen. To add Packages put a folder called Packages in your kaiserkitchen and put your OEM Packages in it, then run KAISERKITCHEN.CMD chose option c then b. When Ervius build os +package tool opens,click the right tab and add rom(Add your kaiserkitchen folder,but make sure its on your desktop). You will then get a list of packages in the premade folder, just tick the ones you want to add to your rom. Once happy click build rom. Once done exit and KAISERKITCHEN.CMD should crack on by itself....then bring up a couple more apps(Rom Tool and Pagepool)just do what they say . every time you exit these apps KAISERKITCHEN.CMD will take you to the next step.
yardie.spike said:
Yeah, but dont worry about os.nb in base rom folder, unless you dont want to mod the rom and just add your fave radio/splash/spl. If thats all you want to do then recomplile using htcrt.exe in tools folder.
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speaking of the htc rom tool, does anyone have a mirror for the latest version (1.1.1). it's not working on his site, and I 'm really interested in the command line support
mbarvian said:
speaking of the htc rom tool, does anyone have a mirror for the latest version (1.1.1). it's not working on his site, and I 'm really interested in the command line support
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Theres a new ROM tool????Anyone tried??
NEW IS GOOD!!!
Thank you so much for the clarification. I've also been trying to find a decent kitchen setup and the one made by Alex is the best one I've encountered so far but haven't really steered too far from his build. I have to agree that a new version of the HTC Rom Tool would be cool.
HEdwards2008 said:
Thank you so much for the clarification. I've also been trying to find a decent kitchen setup and the one made by Alex is the best one I've encountered so far but haven't really steered too far from his build.
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I just put up a Kaiser 20270 kitchen from PPCKitchen.org and AstainHellbring. Try it, let me know what you think. Feedback thread is here.
yardie.spike said:
Yeah, but dont worry about os.nb in base rom folder, unless you dont want to mod the rom and just add your fave radio/splash/spl. If thats all you want to do then recomplile using htcrt.exe in tools folder. OS .nb is what is extracted into OEM SYS and ROM folders in the kaiserkitchen. To add Packages put a folder called Packages in your kaiserkitchen and put your OEM Packages in it, then run KAISERKITCHEN.CMD chose option c then b. When Ervius build os +package tool opens,click the right tab and add rom(Add your kaiserkitchen folder,but make sure its on your desktop). You will then get a list of packages in the premade folder, just tick the ones you want to add to your rom. Once happy click build rom. Once done exit and KAISERKITCHEN.CMD should crack on by itself....then bring up a couple more apps(Rom Tool and Pagepool)just do what they say . every time you exit these apps KAISERKITCHEN.CMD will take you to the next step.
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So if I'm understanding this correctly....in order to achieve a completely clean ROM without all the extra fixings I would simply need to use the os.nb file and not the os-new.nb file when cooking correct?
No, the only way to get a completely clean base is to use one someone made, or to manually remove extra oems from an uncorrupted rom (which usually means stock). os.nb is the donor imgfs, os-new.nb is the donor imgfs with your added pkgs.
The PPCkitchen.org kaiser kitchen is clean, and is way simpler to use. If you're trying to get to a clean base, do yourself a favor and just use it.
so... does this mean that if I use for say OEM HTC ROM, and put the os.nb in the base folder, when I build it using the tool, whatever packages I selected are simply added to whatever is on the OS.NB? I thought it would use the baserom as base and whatever apps installed on it are ignored. I guess I totally got it wrong then... So how do you strip out all the programs that have been installed in the baserom? Does this mean you have to dump the image?
maximumbs said:
so... does this mean that if I use for say OEM HTC ROM, and put the os.nb in the base folder, when I build it using the tool, whatever packages I selected are simply added to whatever is on the OS.NB? I thought it would use the baserom as base and whatever apps installed on it are ignored. I guess I totally got it wrong then... So how do you strip out all the programs that have been installed in the baserom? Does this mean you have to dump the image?
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I do know that in order to get the base OEM packages out of the main build you have to go through and remove and edit certain files to get it done right, which there is information in the Wiki about but haven't really had time to focus on it much. As for the PPCKitchen.org version of the Kitchen, I'm going to try it when I get home tonight because I'm at work currently. Gguruusa, you have to understand that some of us are new to the cooking community and want to be able to get our feet wet slowly and make sure we do stuff right instead of damaging our device. I've only got one Tilt and I don't want to completely destroy it. I would love to cook but need to be able to start off with a simple clean base rom with no extra ingredients and then go from there.
maximumbs said:
so... does this mean that if I use for say OEM HTC ROM, and put the os.nb in the base folder, when I build it using the tool, whatever packages I selected are simply added to whatever is on the OS.NB? I thought it would use the baserom as base and whatever apps installed on it are ignored. I guess I totally got it wrong then... So how do you strip out all the programs that have been installed in the baserom? Does this mean you have to dump the image?
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No dont put os.nb in the base rom put the RUU_unsigned and extract using KAISERKITCHEN.cmd.....read my previous posts.
gguruusa said:
No, the only way to get a completely clean base is to use one someone made, or to manually remove extra oems from an uncorrupted rom (which usually means stock). os.nb is the donor imgfs, os-new.nb is the donor imgfs with your added pkgs.
The PPCkitchen.org kaiser kitchen is clean, and is way simpler to use. If you're trying to get to a clean base, do yourself a favor and just use it.
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This looks very promising, downloading it now. Thanks for this! Hope they update it 20273 soon
HEdwards2008 said:
As for the PPCKitchen.org version of the Kitchen, I'm going to try it when I get home tonight because I'm at work currently. Gguruusa, you have to understand that some of us are new to the cooking community and want to be able to get our feet wet slowly and make sure we do stuff right instead of damaging our device. I've only got one Tilt and I don't want to completely destroy it. I would love to cook but need to be able to start off with a simple clean base rom with no extra ingredients and then go from there.
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That's why ppckitchen.org was born. With ppckitchen.org, it's a point and click thing to build a rom. The mysterious part (making a kitchen base) is done for you. All you have to focus on is what packages you want to add.
You still have to unlock your device and install radios outside the kitchen, which is where people generaly brick their devices.
gguruusa said:
That's why ppckitchen.org was born. With ppckitchen.org, it's a point and click thing to build a rom. The mysterious part (making a kitchen base) is done for you. All you have to focus on is what packages you want to add.
You still have to unlock your device and install radios outside the kitchen, which is where people generaly brick their devices.
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I shouldn't have any problems then seeing as to how I know that you need to have HardSPL installed and also to be sure to flash the radio AFTER the ROM in order to prevent bricking.
But that takes the whole fun out of cooking a rom when the base is already made for you...!!!
I will have to say my most challenging part is trying to get the base rom the way I like it in order to add whatever I want.
For example....
In my current kitchen I have deleted all of the OEMAPPS folders except the dsm file. I have then rebuilt all of my programs like the way a Diamond and Raphael ROM is....
In essence, If I was to just build my ROM without any packages it would be a clean rom without any software like camera, mms, phoneskins ect....
Its taken awhile thats why I have not published my newest rom yet...
ryncppr said:
But that takes the whole fun out of cooking a rom when the base is already made for you...!!!
I will have to say my most challenging part is trying to get the base rom the way I like it in order to add whatever I want.
For example....
In my current kitchen I have deleted all of the OEMAPPS folders except the dsm file. I have then rebuilt all of my programs like the way a Diamond and Raphael ROM is....
In essence, If I was to just build my ROM without any packages it would be a clean rom without any software like camera, mms, phoneskins ect....
Its taken awhile thats why I have not published my newest rom yet...
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I totally agree my favourite build was one that went wrong and nearly bricked my phone....sounds sick, but it was going back over what i had done and fixing that was the fun part. That ROM turned out to be possibly my most stable (Yardie 2.1.240) Ha ha i love cooking!!!
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But that takes the whole fun out of cooking a rom when the base is already made for you...!!!
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Bah. The fun of cooking is getting a ROM to look and feel like you want. Making a kitchen is entertaining when you haven't done it before, but it's really 99% repetition and 1% art.

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