Ok I need a few opinions.
I am wanting to find out who has the easy and the best Kitchen.
I want to take a "nk.nbf" and edit it.
I want to remove packages that are in there and add others.
I have "TNT.1933_Professional___HTC_Home_Wizard" Rom I have tryed to use "HyperCore Kitchen" but could not get the rom to work.
I took the original ron, extracted it and then re made it (With out changing anything) to see if I was doing it the correct way, but after I loaded the rom it locks up after it posts the ver screen.
Is this the rom I am using or the way I am using it. Or is it the kitchen.
I really want to learn to make my own. So if some one has time to walk me though it I would be ever so greatfull.
I have searched and search the site and most walkthroughs apply to old vers of kitchens. I still tryed to follow them but cant get a rom to work. I know I must be missing something somewhere.
- Albert
I don't think you have the .rgu's
If the chef deletes the .rgu files you can't rebuild his rom the easy way. You should either seek a rom that has all the files or ask the maker to share them.
Ok thank you
Yep, a lot of the roms have the .rgu files removed. You can use my cooking pack or I recall that there was a Lite version of TNT that was meant for cooking that would still ahve the .rgu files (but then you'll have to get the packages to put in it what you want). Then of course there is theloon's kitchen stuff which has tons of packages and all.
im trying to cook my own rom by editing the att shipped rom... i tried starting from alex's att 1.61 rom but when i flashed my phone, i couldnt find the camera app, and there was these glitches... so want to try making my own rom by deleting the bloatware and then adding packages.. but then i dont know how to delete them. i already dumped the rom and i already picked out the packages that i want to install to the rom, my problem is the extracting/removing of default packages that came with the rom. any suggestions?
doing what you want to do requires a lot of understanding of cooking. Not sure if you mean by changing registry files, removing particular files, or what. It take some time learning. I consider myself being around for a while, and I'm not at that stage. If I wanted to do what you do, find a package with the stuff you want to delete, and look for those files in the SYS or OEM folder and delete them.
I read the guides in this website, but need some extra guidance of how to achieve the following (if it is possible):
Let's say that one of the chefs cooked a ROM that I really like (let's call it "ROM X"), but there is one change that I would like to do to the ROM, for example, let's say I would like to delete the OEM package for the dialer that he used, and use an OEM package for a different dialer.
I understand that I need to do the following:
1. First I need to flash "ROM X" to my kaiser.
2. Now I need to dump "ROM X" from my kaiser, to my hard drive. At the end I get the 4 raw files.
Now comes the stage I'm not sure how to accomplish: I want to load the cooking applet of the kitchen software, and have all the database from the 4 raw files (of "ROM X") appear, so I can make the needed change in the OEM package, and continue to create the ROM. I understand that I need to somehow extract the information from the raw files, to something that the cooking applet of the kitchen software could use, but I'm not sure how...
Can anyone provide a bit of guidance ?
Thank you very much.
Btw, I've seen the following thread which deals with how to reconstruct a dumped ROM, but it doesn't deal with how to make changes to the ROM during the reconstruction process, rather the ROM you create, is simply a 100% duplicate of the ROM you dumped, and this is not what I'm trying to achieve...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066
I've started trying my hand at cooking some of my own ROMs over the past couple of days and have gotten confused on some stuff. I've been following the both the Wiki's and the threads on cooking but none of them seem to point it out so here goes.
1) I'm trying to use a base ROM such as this one or this one and have been successful in both dumping them and cooking them using Alex's latest revision of KaiserKitchen and his apps. When I am including the os.nbh file during the cooking process, should it be the one that comes up in the main KaiserKitchen folder or the one that is located in the BASEROM folder? Is either of those files just the OS part of the ROM without all the applications and such?
2) After cooking and successfully flashing either of the two before mentioned ROMs I will always get the auto-installer which occurs on a default ROM. The problem is is that none of the defined packages that I've chosen in the cooking process will be installed when the ROM is flashed. Why is this? Is there something that I should be doing that I'm not doing now that will allow this?
I would greatly appreciate any help in this as I want to become an avid chef but want to learn the ropes first. I've been toying around with it and wanted to get a decent collection of base ROMs and understand them before I start customizing them and such. Again, any help would be thoroughly appreciative and love what you guys are doing here.
HEdwards2008 said:
I've started trying my hand at cooking some of my own ROMs over the past couple of days and have gotten confused on some stuff. I've been following the both the Wiki's and the threads on cooking but none of them seem to point it out so here goes.
1) I'm trying to use a base ROM such as this one or this one and have been successful in both dumping them and cooking them using Alex's latest revision of KaiserKitchen and his apps. When I am including the os.nbh file during the cooking process, should it be the one that comes up in the main KaiserKitchen folder or the one that is located in the BASEROM folder? Is either of those files just the OS part of the ROM without all the applications and such?
2) After cooking and successfully flashing either of the two before mentioned ROMs I will always get the auto-installer which occurs on a default ROM. The problem is is that none of the defined packages that I've chosen in the cooking process will be installed when the ROM is flashed. Why is this? Is there something that I should be doing that I'm not doing now that will allow this?
I would greatly appreciate any help in this as I want to become an avid chef but want to learn the ropes first. I've been toying around with it and wanted to get a decent collection of base ROMs and understand them before I start customizing them and such. Again, any help would be thoroughly appreciative and love what you guys are doing here.
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os.nb should be in base rom with RUU_signed.nbh(once youve extracted) The File that is generated during ervius package tools is OS-new.nb-this is your new os. Kaiser Wiki has all info.
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os.nb should be in base rom with RUU_signed.nbh(once youve extracted) The File that is generated during ervius package tools is OS-new.nb-this is your new os. Kaiser Wiki has all info.
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I've been searching the Wiki like crazy and I guess I am just confused on it. So OS-new.nb is the OS ROM with all of the packages, Which one would be just the OS itself? The os.nb file in the BASEROM folder?
HEdwards2008 said:
I've been searching the Wiki like crazy and I guess I am just confused on it. So OS-new.nb is the OS ROM with all of the packages, Which one would be just the OS itself? The os.nb file in the BASEROM folder?
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Yeah, but dont worry about os.nb in base rom folder, unless you dont want to mod the rom and just add your fave radio/splash/spl. If thats all you want to do then recomplile using htcrt.exe in tools folder. OS .nb is what is extracted into OEM SYS and ROM folders in the kaiserkitchen. To add Packages put a folder called Packages in your kaiserkitchen and put your OEM Packages in it, then run KAISERKITCHEN.CMD chose option c then b. When Ervius build os +package tool opens,click the right tab and add rom(Add your kaiserkitchen folder,but make sure its on your desktop). You will then get a list of packages in the premade folder, just tick the ones you want to add to your rom. Once happy click build rom. Once done exit and KAISERKITCHEN.CMD should crack on by itself....then bring up a couple more apps(Rom Tool and Pagepool)just do what they say . every time you exit these apps KAISERKITCHEN.CMD will take you to the next step.
yardie.spike said:
Yeah, but dont worry about os.nb in base rom folder, unless you dont want to mod the rom and just add your fave radio/splash/spl. If thats all you want to do then recomplile using htcrt.exe in tools folder.
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speaking of the htc rom tool, does anyone have a mirror for the latest version (1.1.1). it's not working on his site, and I 'm really interested in the command line support
mbarvian said:
speaking of the htc rom tool, does anyone have a mirror for the latest version (1.1.1). it's not working on his site, and I 'm really interested in the command line support
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Theres a new ROM tool????Anyone tried??
NEW IS GOOD!!!
Thank you so much for the clarification. I've also been trying to find a decent kitchen setup and the one made by Alex is the best one I've encountered so far but haven't really steered too far from his build. I have to agree that a new version of the HTC Rom Tool would be cool.
HEdwards2008 said:
Thank you so much for the clarification. I've also been trying to find a decent kitchen setup and the one made by Alex is the best one I've encountered so far but haven't really steered too far from his build.
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I just put up a Kaiser 20270 kitchen from PPCKitchen.org and AstainHellbring. Try it, let me know what you think. Feedback thread is here.
yardie.spike said:
Yeah, but dont worry about os.nb in base rom folder, unless you dont want to mod the rom and just add your fave radio/splash/spl. If thats all you want to do then recomplile using htcrt.exe in tools folder. OS .nb is what is extracted into OEM SYS and ROM folders in the kaiserkitchen. To add Packages put a folder called Packages in your kaiserkitchen and put your OEM Packages in it, then run KAISERKITCHEN.CMD chose option c then b. When Ervius build os +package tool opens,click the right tab and add rom(Add your kaiserkitchen folder,but make sure its on your desktop). You will then get a list of packages in the premade folder, just tick the ones you want to add to your rom. Once happy click build rom. Once done exit and KAISERKITCHEN.CMD should crack on by itself....then bring up a couple more apps(Rom Tool and Pagepool)just do what they say . every time you exit these apps KAISERKITCHEN.CMD will take you to the next step.
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So if I'm understanding this correctly....in order to achieve a completely clean ROM without all the extra fixings I would simply need to use the os.nb file and not the os-new.nb file when cooking correct?
No, the only way to get a completely clean base is to use one someone made, or to manually remove extra oems from an uncorrupted rom (which usually means stock). os.nb is the donor imgfs, os-new.nb is the donor imgfs with your added pkgs.
The PPCkitchen.org kaiser kitchen is clean, and is way simpler to use. If you're trying to get to a clean base, do yourself a favor and just use it.
so... does this mean that if I use for say OEM HTC ROM, and put the os.nb in the base folder, when I build it using the tool, whatever packages I selected are simply added to whatever is on the OS.NB? I thought it would use the baserom as base and whatever apps installed on it are ignored. I guess I totally got it wrong then... So how do you strip out all the programs that have been installed in the baserom? Does this mean you have to dump the image?
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so... does this mean that if I use for say OEM HTC ROM, and put the os.nb in the base folder, when I build it using the tool, whatever packages I selected are simply added to whatever is on the OS.NB? I thought it would use the baserom as base and whatever apps installed on it are ignored. I guess I totally got it wrong then... So how do you strip out all the programs that have been installed in the baserom? Does this mean you have to dump the image?
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I do know that in order to get the base OEM packages out of the main build you have to go through and remove and edit certain files to get it done right, which there is information in the Wiki about but haven't really had time to focus on it much. As for the PPCKitchen.org version of the Kitchen, I'm going to try it when I get home tonight because I'm at work currently. Gguruusa, you have to understand that some of us are new to the cooking community and want to be able to get our feet wet slowly and make sure we do stuff right instead of damaging our device. I've only got one Tilt and I don't want to completely destroy it. I would love to cook but need to be able to start off with a simple clean base rom with no extra ingredients and then go from there.
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so... does this mean that if I use for say OEM HTC ROM, and put the os.nb in the base folder, when I build it using the tool, whatever packages I selected are simply added to whatever is on the OS.NB? I thought it would use the baserom as base and whatever apps installed on it are ignored. I guess I totally got it wrong then... So how do you strip out all the programs that have been installed in the baserom? Does this mean you have to dump the image?
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No dont put os.nb in the base rom put the RUU_unsigned and extract using KAISERKITCHEN.cmd.....read my previous posts.
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No, the only way to get a completely clean base is to use one someone made, or to manually remove extra oems from an uncorrupted rom (which usually means stock). os.nb is the donor imgfs, os-new.nb is the donor imgfs with your added pkgs.
The PPCkitchen.org kaiser kitchen is clean, and is way simpler to use. If you're trying to get to a clean base, do yourself a favor and just use it.
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This looks very promising, downloading it now. Thanks for this! Hope they update it 20273 soon
HEdwards2008 said:
As for the PPCKitchen.org version of the Kitchen, I'm going to try it when I get home tonight because I'm at work currently. Gguruusa, you have to understand that some of us are new to the cooking community and want to be able to get our feet wet slowly and make sure we do stuff right instead of damaging our device. I've only got one Tilt and I don't want to completely destroy it. I would love to cook but need to be able to start off with a simple clean base rom with no extra ingredients and then go from there.
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That's why ppckitchen.org was born. With ppckitchen.org, it's a point and click thing to build a rom. The mysterious part (making a kitchen base) is done for you. All you have to focus on is what packages you want to add.
You still have to unlock your device and install radios outside the kitchen, which is where people generaly brick their devices.
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That's why ppckitchen.org was born. With ppckitchen.org, it's a point and click thing to build a rom. The mysterious part (making a kitchen base) is done for you. All you have to focus on is what packages you want to add.
You still have to unlock your device and install radios outside the kitchen, which is where people generaly brick their devices.
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I shouldn't have any problems then seeing as to how I know that you need to have HardSPL installed and also to be sure to flash the radio AFTER the ROM in order to prevent bricking.
But that takes the whole fun out of cooking a rom when the base is already made for you...!!!
I will have to say my most challenging part is trying to get the base rom the way I like it in order to add whatever I want.
For example....
In my current kitchen I have deleted all of the OEMAPPS folders except the dsm file. I have then rebuilt all of my programs like the way a Diamond and Raphael ROM is....
In essence, If I was to just build my ROM without any packages it would be a clean rom without any software like camera, mms, phoneskins ect....
Its taken awhile thats why I have not published my newest rom yet...
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But that takes the whole fun out of cooking a rom when the base is already made for you...!!!
I will have to say my most challenging part is trying to get the base rom the way I like it in order to add whatever I want.
For example....
In my current kitchen I have deleted all of the OEMAPPS folders except the dsm file. I have then rebuilt all of my programs like the way a Diamond and Raphael ROM is....
In essence, If I was to just build my ROM without any packages it would be a clean rom without any software like camera, mms, phoneskins ect....
Its taken awhile thats why I have not published my newest rom yet...
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I totally agree my favourite build was one that went wrong and nearly bricked my phone....sounds sick, but it was going back over what i had done and fixing that was the fun part. That ROM turned out to be possibly my most stable (Yardie 2.1.240) Ha ha i love cooking!!!
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But that takes the whole fun out of cooking a rom when the base is already made for you...!!!
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Bah. The fun of cooking is getting a ROM to look and feel like you want. Making a kitchen is entertaining when you haven't done it before, but it's really 99% repetition and 1% art.
Hi all,
Perhaps it is a newbie question so please bear with me.
I have an i-mate K-Jam flashed with TNT rom (build 20273). It works perfect and nice, however (frankly speaking) I don't like or want some of the APPs installed with this ROM, but I can't uninstall them.
I've searched this forum to find a way to extract the OS (OS only) from TNT rom so that I can flash my wizard and then install all the APPs I want, with no luck. Perhaps my search skills are a little poor...
So would someone please explain if it is possible or not? and if yes, how?
Thanks in advance.
Regards.
You cannot remove apps from a cooked rom. Search for Vanilla roms if you just want the base rom without any extras and then you can install you own apps.
well you can, but for that u'll have to dump the ROM first, remove the apps you dnt like and recook it
you can not dump the TNT roms. when you try, there are no RGU'S or DSM's.
You can dump my rom if you like, but you will get some missing files you will have to put back into the oem.
the missing files come from me not editing the rgu's when I cook.
try dumping Hornet5. for the most part you will get complete packages, but also some "missing files". just put them back into the oem/sys and recook.
Thanks for info. Saved me a lot of time.
I finally managed to cook my own rom. Everything works perfect except that:
1) I've used XIP, SYS and OEM files/folders of different builds. Am I going to have problem later?
2) "CommManager.exe" was missing. I've searched the files used in kitchen and the only thing I found is "commmanager.htm". Later I managed to download and install HTC CommManager but I can't assign in to its button (button 6). Is there any solution for that?
3) How may I extract the "splash screen" from one build, and upload it to my phone?
4) Bluetooth is not working. It says there is no bluetooth hardware on device. Also WLAN disconnects after a few seconds. How may I extract the drivers from original ROM and upload it?
I know the above questions are too much, but actually I'm so excited that my first attempt to cook a rom was successful (almost). I hope one of you experts be kind enough to help me solve the above issues and have a perfect phone.
Thanks in advance.
you will have some problems with the initflashfiles.dat in the oem, as well as the "oemtranslation.prvxml" or something which controls your icons for programs and control panel.
The best thing to do is use the same build OEM SYS & ROM folders.
If you dumped hornet 5, then your best bet ist to work with everything in it. I was working at this rom after Sleurhut for about a month or two.
mixing builds of those folders makes you start from scratch again fixing up your oem again.. and again.
as far as the missing files, try using the Xdump method; or use the searcher on your PC to find the missing files folder and the contents.
Dear S.V.I
Thank you so much for your ongoing support and help.
As I've mentioned before, I'm a total newbie trying to have a clean WM6.1 on Wizard. I've searched and read lots of tutorials here and there, but there are still lots of questions remained.
I tried to play with HyperCore (multi-device) today and I failed in the first step. I've extracted the "nk.nbf" from official i-mate KJam ROM using WinRAR. HyperCore is installed and I've a "C:\Core" folder as well as a "HyperCore" folder on my desktop.
The "DumpRom" is asking me to make sure the "nk.nbf" is in "HyperCore\Extract\Source" folder. Well it is there. Press Enter and the error message says: "There is no nk.nbf in Core\Extract\Source".
No it is not. First, it asked me to put it in "HyperCore\Extract\Source" not "Core\Extract\Source". Second, there is no "Extract" folder under "C:\Core". Even after creating Extract\Source under C:\Core and copying nk.nbf there, the same error message appears again.
So, what I'm missing here?
Same
I'm also scratching my head on this problem too. I've even tried creating extract\source folders in locations C:\core\ and desktop\hypercore\ but still no luck.
I'm wondering however that the issue could be caused by vista/7's change from Documents and Settings\user\desktop (2000, XP) to Users\user\desktop.
It may change the way the batch files are called but i'm really rusty on batch commands these days
I would start with the sticky "How to cook a ROM" thread, focusing on CRACING's kitchen, then move to Nekid Angel (Post #3)
where you will find a more updated ROM ready to cook. If you want to try WM6.5 a good ROM and kitchen is at [WM Kitchen] Wizard Kitchen or CRACING's RC6. I have been playing around with that.
You might move your discussion to one of the cooking or kitchen threads mentioned above, too, since that is where others will look.
Perfect
That's what i was looking for thanks for the heads up N2rjt!