New SIP for touchscreen (breakthrough) - General Topics

I found them recently and tried them (trial is free).
One is for thumbs the others for pen.
From my experience SlideIt is a must !!! Thumbkey is not bad as well
Are they so new that I found no thread on this venerable forum ?
http://www.mobiletextinput.com/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php
http://www.mobiletextinput.com/Product/ThumbKey/ThumbKey.php
Videos are available
Have you tried them ? What do you think ?

I just saw the video and did some searching and I found this thread. It seems pretty cool.

uh. no. i'll take the default keyboard and stylus anyday

WOW!
The first app is incredible!!
I must try it....
Is there an ITALIAN vocabulary for it?

Now the keyboards are for free !!!
http://www.dasur.co.il/Product/ThumbKey/DownloadDemo.php
http://www.dasur.co.il/Product/SlideIT/DownloadDemo.php
As they should have been from the beginning....

the first one is a cool idea but look combersum...
also the keyboard looks bad... i like my cmkeyboard w/ iphone skin much better

A good surprise
I downloaded SlideIT demo without any expectation. I heard so many times about a breakthrough.... and 50 words/minute ?? hum....
But this time I have to say I was really surprised. This is certainly the best keyboard available.
Sliding +grafiti + prediction give really good results and speed is improved.
The demo is very powerful. It is worth to try it

I guess you have to use the stylus, huh? I like PCM and TouchPal because you can use the stylus or your fingers.
I like the premise, but I don't know it I see it becoming my main form of input.

Not quite a "Breakthrough". Now, if I could just think it and my PPC does it, that would be a Breakthrough.....

Dasur's application for thumbs --> Thumbkey
maevro said:
I guess you have to use the stylus, huh? I like PCM and TouchPal because you can use the stylus or your fingers.
I like the premise, but I don't know it I see it becoming my main form of input.
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I think more powerful than the two SIP you use
Give a try

Find TouchPal still the best. Just my personal opinion thoiugh.

Touchpal <> Dasur opinion
srmz said:
Find TouchPal still the best. Just my personal opinion thoiugh.
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Somebody who changed his mind after having reviewed the SIP
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=30&page=1&disp=posts&paged=2 Nate Adcock Blog Smartphone&PC Mag

Just published
Alosio said:
Somebody who changed his mind after having reviewed the SIP
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=30&page=1&disp=posts&paged=2 Nate Adcock Blog Smartphone&PC Mag
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http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...rtual-keyboards-dasur-now-available-pdas.html

A nother opinion
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=30&p=2500&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#more2500
confirming the good thinks already edited on the SIP

I tried SlideIT demo
and it's working
Thank you for the tip

I tried the demo also. Shame its Qvga on my diamond touch. Anyone who can modify it to a VGA version?

Posted an update on the Blackstone forum, but I figured it is useful for others as well.
IBM have finally released ShapeWriter Text Input for WinMob. It's available as a 30 day trial version. I've been very impressed with it, you might want to check it out.
www.shapewriter.com
Zuber

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iPhone for PPC - Which is the best?

I have been using Slide2Unlock on my WM6 Hermes now for a while and have really gotten to like it, so much that I want the iPhone look and feel on my PPC.
I have seen a few around but then seem parts of the full package. Is there one particular one that seems the best all rounder?
I came across this one but haven't tried it yet:-
http://www.ozankilic.com/?p=31
I would like a version that has the iPhone dialler but needs to have the smart dialler functionality so that names come up when I type numbers etc..
I would also like to continue to use Slide2Unlock
Also, I would like the icons on the today screen etc...
Can you please point me in the direction of a good version.
Many Thanks
Mark
Can anyone offer any input into this topic? or pointers to different iPhone themes
Thanks
iLaunch for Pocket PC
You can check out this...looks like what you are looking for.
http://www.dvdtoiphone.com/
Scroll down to the PPC software...
anothersmith said:
You can check out this...looks like what you are looking for.
http://www.dvdtoiphone.com/
Scroll down to the PPC software...
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That looks good but doesn't appear to have the animations etc..
How do you think it compares to http://www.ozankilic.com/?p=31?
have also come across this one but also don't know how it compares to all the others:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308215&highlight=iphone
These seems to be so many, is there one particular good allrounder?
Regards
Mark
Wisbar Desktop
Check out
www.lakeridgesoftware.com
Its a program called wisbar advance and desktop. They are great programs and will let you design your UI any way you like. If you go to the forum and under skins, search for iphone. You will find people who have done plenty of iphone skins and have uploaded them so others can use them.
Right now there is no way for our phones to handle the transitions that they show the iphone do. It take my phone (Hermes) 5 seconds to do a transition that is fade to black. So until Windows Mobile upgrades the way the run graphics we are out of luck.
For transitions, try iTask. There are actually a bunch out there right now;
Grumps' iPhone App (stable, fast, has animation of icons disappearing one after another when opening app, but no longer being developed)
iFonz (active developer, many features, but kinda slow startup, since it is written fully in .NET)
iTask (written completely in flash, if you can deal with that, it has iPhone-style animations and is fast, not much development lately)
In the end, it's all personal preference. From what I remember, Grumps' iPhone App is the lightest and fastest, but least featured (a straightforward launcher). iFonz aims the most to emulate the iPhone exactly, but iTask is pretty similar, and has built-in apps like Satellite.
This thread seems to be advertising in every post...
Ads on xda?
Good lordy, ban that person!
Anyway, I'm a sucker who goes through iPhone envy every now and then. I've actually tried most of the ones mentioned above, spending WAY too much money for the one using wisbar. To be honest, my favorite was iFonz, which, oddly enough, doesn't cost a dime.
tom_shelbourn said:
JUST ADDED...
Hi Guys,
I added a video so you can see www.iphoneforppc.com in action!
Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyb-KKI2d2s
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Thats slide to unlock and other FREE Apps from XDA..
Don't shoot me for advertising, but it's relevant and helps the user, so here goes...
touch innovation is all about windows mobile programs that are LIKE the iPhone. All the programs with the iPhone feel and transitions etc.
If you're interested go here:
Touch Innovation website URL
Napbree said:
Don't shoot me for advertising, but it's relevant and helps the user, so here goes...
touch innovation is all about windows mobile programs that are LIKE the iPhone. All the programs with the iPhone feel and transitions etc.
If you're interested go here:
Touch Innovation website URL
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dude, i think you ought to advertise it even more... maybe we should have a sticky for this website.. it's great.
if you want an iphone - buy an iphone!
Napbree said:
Don't shoot me for advertising, but it's relevant and helps the user, so here goes...
touch innovation is all about windows mobile programs that are LIKE the iPhone. All the programs with the iPhone feel and transitions etc.
If you're interested go here:
Touch Innovation website URL
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Great site, good way to track all the wonderful apps people are creating here
iFonz is free. Why would anyone pay $9.95 for that one?
nir36 said:
dude, i think you ought to advertise it even more... maybe we should have a sticky for this website.. it's great.
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You just made my day! Thanks alot, good to know my hard work is being appreciated! I would love to get a sticky for my website - but I don't think they would allow it.
tjex said:
Great site, good way to track all the wonderful apps people are creating here
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Thank you again
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P.S I just tested the iLaunch, and it's really bad :/
tjex said:
Great site, good way to track all the wonderful apps people are creating here
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I agree. I started using it a few days ago and it's great so far. I'm like most people who likes a 1 stop shop.....
*Edit*
I can't believe this is my first post!?!?!
ifonz is the best and its free. Try is first before you buy anything else. i promise you will like it. also the new update is available.
cabayboy831 said:
ifonz is the best and its free. Try is first before you buy anything else. i promise you will like it. also the new update is available.
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I tried a lot of iphone lookalike tools, but ifonz is far away from beeing the best!
Maybe its the best for you...
Best iClone
So far, Torx's theme has been the best for me. It allowed me the iPhone look, but WAD/WA3 allowed me to customize it even more to suit my preferences.
That's just my 2 cents, which may not even be worth that.

TouchPal v3.5 is available

CooTek just released TouchPal v3.5. The improvment seems promising...
http://www.cootek.com/intro.aspx
The new skin looks great on my Diamond and it runs faster than HTC one. And you should take a look at their feature list, pretty amazing...
mybeautify said:
CooTek just released TouchPal v3.5. The improvment seems promising...
http://www.cootek.com/intro.aspx
The new skin looks great on my Diamond and it runs faster than HTC one. And you should take a look at their feature list, pretty amazing...
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good post, I loaded it up today. I like it better then 3.0 and the skin is the best so far
It runs much faster than HTC one.
mybeautify said:
It runs much faster than HTC one.
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Interesting, but that's not even close to the new Fingertouch PRO that I'm currently using.
So why should you use that, when FingertouchPRO is the best keyboard available?
You can use FTPRO in English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian or even Greek, and you can also define your own languages. For all these, it also supports an innovative fT9 technology, that makes possible typing with only 1 finger!
Not to mention the other tons of settings and features. I've added the CAB here, for direct download, but better check the webpage at www.fingertouchpro.com
Cheers!
MOD EDIT: Better mention so everyone is clear. The cab posted is trial version
yuppime said:
Interesting, but that's not even close to the new Fingertouch PRO that I'm currently using.
So why should you use that, when FingertouchPRO is the best keyboard available?
Cheers!
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Because you can't declare it the best keyboard available for everyone. It's all subjective.
I've used fingertouch pro, and I was not impressed. I'm definitely liking touchpal 3.5 more so far.
Mods should bann this yuppime who's obviously doing ad, in a very dirty way.
I did try the fingertouch and it sucks. If it is really good, they don't need to do dirty ads here.
So far Touchpal is the best, so is PCM. fingertouch is useless.
I found TouchPal to be a waste of money myself. IMO it isn't as good as the stock diamond keyboard.
Then fingertouch is even more and a waste of time too.
Well guys, let us not cook up the heat in here. What do you say, since you guys have posted your feedbacks and informations about these input SIPs, we let the users decide which is best for them
What is best and what is not is individual choice and let everyone use that they feel is comfortable. Thanks again for the feedbacks
yuppime said:
Interesting, but that's not even close to the new Fingertouch PRO that I'm currently using.
So why should you use that, when FingertouchPRO is the best keyboard available?
You can use FTPRO in English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian or even Greek, and you can also define your own languages. For all these, it also supports an innovative fT9 technology, that makes possible typing with only 1 finger!
Not to mention the other tons of settings and features. I've added the CAB here, for direct download, but better check the webpage at www.fingertouchpro.com
Cheers!
MOD EDIT: Better mention so everyone is clear. The cab posted is trial version
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Dude, I see you posting the same thing on like every board here, you are probably an employee or some kind of viral marketer for the product, I mean yes it's nice but IMO it's not even close to TouchPal's usability and features.
Maybe subjectively you like it better and you're entitled to that but don't go around saying it's the best SIP keyboard around like it's a fact.
For the love of god....where is the cab for touchpal...somebody please let me know.
Humongus1 said:
For the love of god....where is the cab for touchpal...somebody please let me know.
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Oh hell yeah. well maybe not for you but this LINK. Reveals some really good WP7 news. That was my only concern with getting a new device. TP has been a mainstay for me since my first winmo device.
good day.
TouchPal v4.5.1 923 ratings (4.38 average) on AppBrain.com
404 on Android Market

Best fingerfriendly keyboard?

im using FingerKeyBoard2 right now
i used to have PCMKEYBOARD v.23 and it was ok
im wondering what you guys think what the best keyboard is.
CooTek TouchPal for me
Also Touchpal for me
TouchPal FTW! I've used it since it came out, and haven't found anything better. It's all in the auto predict. I can type about 40-60 WPM on my desktop 180-220 WPM with TouchPal and my thumb.
Touch Pal 3.5 by Coo Tek
deedee said:
CooTek TouchPal for me
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greg17477 said:
Also Touchpal for me
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guitardoc64 said:
TouchPal FTW! I've used it since it came out, and haven't found anything better. It's all in the auto predict. I can type about 40-60 WPM on my desktop 180-220 WPM with TouchPal and my thumb.
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Couldn't agree more with the members above ! And I've tried most the favorable keyboards out there.
Absolutely the best keyboard app ever. Watch the video and read the whole page to unlock its true potential. Look.......HERE
Oh and FYI, CooTek is about to release a new version (V4) by the end of April. I was offered to beta test the pre-release version, and of course I said yes! I will be posting first impressions, etc here at PPCGeeks and the cootek forum.
guitardoc64 said:
Oh and FYI, CooTek is about to release a new version (V4) by the end of April. I was offered to beta test the pre-release version, and of course I said yes! I will be posting first impressions, etc here at PPCGeeks and the cootek forum.
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Would love to see what improvements an already fantastic app. could possible have.
Keep us posted guitardoc64 ASAP, as I'm sure you will! Can't wait for Version 4.0
Thanks!
For me this is one of the best
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501122
orb3000 said:
For me this is one of the best
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501122
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Yeah that one is good and was my favourite but it doesn't have the deep layers of Touchpal.
Overall, touchpal is more intuitive.
ya i use to use the cooltek one but it was too slo for me
i like things u can use using ur thumb and nvr acually looking at ur phone
lol because im still in high skoo and i text in class lol
touchpal is also one of my favorites...
My favorite is PocketCM Keyboard 0.14
Finger Keyboard 2 is great but ergonomic don't suits me : I'm still looking for a better layout

SlideIT not fully compatible with the HD2? [ALMOST COMPATIBLE NOW?]

Hello guys,
I am currently using SlideIT, which is a great piece of software.
http://www.mobiletextinput.com/
But ot seems that this keyboard can create some problems on my HD2 (problems with the landscape mode). Sometimes my HD2 freezes.
Do you have the same issue?
[EDIT: NEW VERSION 4 of SlideIT now compatible available here:
http://www.mobiletextinput.com/Product/SlideIT/WindowsMobile/Demo.php]
don't start new thread!
please don't start new thread, continue discussion here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596715
You are right. Unfortunately the thread you are referring to deals almost exclusively with Swype.
slide keyboard
I don't think so.
continue as you like...
I am very glad to know your opinion. really.
You should propose yourself as a moderator (with your 8 posts total)
Hello
Me I'm testing now and don't have prob with landscade except that the keyboard is taking half scrren...
Will continue my test
Hello Bouya_k,
thanks a lot for your answer. I think the problem occurs when swype is already opened and you rotate the HD2 into landscape mode...
arturobandini said:
Hello Bouya_k,
thanks a lot for your answer. I think the problem occurs when swype is already opened and you rotate the HD2 into landscape mode...
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I tested also this and no probs
Yes you're right. SlideIT has a problem with landscape mode, especially in WinMO 6.5. Dasur is working on that, but did not fix it yet. This is what Daniel from Dasur wrote to me about the landscape problem:
"We have a new version which will be available soon but the landscape problem on HTC HD2 is still not repaired. I hope it will be among the list of bugs in the subsequent release. Regards
Daniel"
Another soft
I'm sure you know this soft, but did you try shapewriter, it supports lot of languages and is really nice to use.
Hope it helps,
Franky
Hi, thanks for the tip.
Actually I tried both SlideIT and Shapewriter and found that there is really no comparison. I find SlideIT far better, especially regarding French language.
Most of the time the words suggested by Shapewriter were not the right ones.
Also Shapewriter is incredibly expensive (twice more expensive than SlideIT.Wwhat do they have in mind?).
I will definitely wait for a new version of SlideIT working properly on my HD2. Can't believe Dasur still cannot manage to solve this landscape bug.
I also agree with u. sometimes while playing game in landscape it pops up and phone freezes, its so annoying so now m using swype n happy with it.
arturobandini said:
Hi, thanks for the tip.
Actually I tried both SlideIT and Shapewriter and found that there is really no comparison. I find SlideIT far better, especially regarding French language.
Most of the time the words suggested by Shapewriter were not the right ones.
Also Shapewriter is incredibly expensive (twice more expensive than SlideIT.Wwhat do they have in mind?).
I will definitely wait for a new version of SlideIT working properly on my HD2. Can't believe Dasur still cannot manage to solve this landscape bug.
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they said a new version was coming soon that would fix the landscape issues ..
Hopefully they'll get it working with opera 10 as well..
Shapewriter tested
arturobandini said:
Hi, thanks for the tip.
Actually I tried both SlideIT and Shapewriter and found that there is really no comparison. I find SlideIT far better, especially regarding French language.
Most of the time the words suggested by Shapewriter were not the right ones.
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I'm using shapewriter from 7 days, it seems to be difficult first, but when adding news words to dictionnary that you use everyday, it becomes really good after this period.
I didn't notice the difference of price between these two softs, if you need help, PM me.
See you my french Bro,
Franky
The SlideIT Dictionary is by far better than the shapewriter thing. The only thing i can't understand is why SlideIT doesn't fix the landscape thing and didn't even reply on mails ? Very confusing.
SlideIT new version for Windows Mobile
Bobby9 said:
The SlideIT Dictionary is by far better than the shapewriter thing. The only thing i can't understand is why SlideIT doesn't fix the landscape thing and didn't even reply on mails ? Very confusing.
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SlideIT reply me on mail
"Thanks for your feedback ! We are aware of this landscape problem on HTC, and it will be fixed in the next version. The next version will be available during the up coming month"
Anyway SlideIT is the first technology to combine three features: sliding, prediction and graffiti.
I will buy this as soon as they fix the bug.
Let us know when the program is updated.
+1.
I will buy it, but only when SlideIT is updated.
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Same for me
And about shapewriter (I posted the same comment in another post) I have two problems :
- never writes in internet filed (Opera, or IE), have to go back to usual input KB
- never wirtes "de" in frnech, but always "se" or "der"
weird....
But donnu if I will switch from trail to full version, considering the price, and those bugs...
I've bought it, and I've written two email to developers.
But, till now, no reply.
I'm evaluating to ask for a refund to Paypal, because I need assistance, too.

SwiftKey > Swype, imho.

So Swiftkey is pretty excellent.
The previous beta release sent to me was GOOD, but definitely not good enough to take over swype.
However, yesterday I received the latest APK and man, it's awesome.
It's incredibly fast and the text prediction is simply brilliant, the video is too conservative at the speed you can type.
It reminds me a LOT of touchpal, and I would love to see the swipe symbols implemented like they were in WinMo.
I recommend you guys head on over to their website here and try to sign up for the beta.
I used to be a huge Swype junkie, but I truly find this faster.
Check it out, you may like it.
Android Central's Keyboard Roundup featuring Swype/Swiftkey among others, here.
Ehh, IMHO I think they both suck.
VinceOB said:
Ehh, IMHO I think they both suck.
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Way to explain why, great constructive post, really.
intx said:
Way to explain why, great constructive post, really.
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welcome to internet
also, one could consider this whole thread an opinion piece
intx said:
Way to explain why, great constructive post, really.
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I know huh....
revlayle said:
welcome to internet
also, one could consider this whole thread an opinion piece
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In response to the bolded part: and? Does that preclude the need for supporting information? If anything it emphasizes the necessity; opinions aren't facts, they cannot stand without support.
Edit: To the OP, i'm gonna check out swiftkey, although I can't imagine it being better than swype. Could you have not just shared an apk?
I struggle with Swype but I see potential in the concept. I signed up for the beta. Thanks OP.
I'd be interested in seeing the super prediction done by Swiftkey, but I don't know... I'm getting better with and liking Swype more and more every day.
The learning system in Swype I think is what I like best. Some word isn't in the dictionary? Just type it in and it's added. No asking, no popup window, it's just there next time you use it.
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welcome to internet
also, one could consider this whole thread an opinion piece
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-_-. welcome to the internet, really? Guess I have no idea what I'm doing here, thanks for the welcome though.
JustShim said:
In response to the bolded part: and? Does that preclude the need for supporting information? If anything it emphasizes the necessity; opinions aren't facts, they cannot stand without support.
Edit: To the OP, i'm gonna check out swiftkey, although I can't imagine it being better than swype. Could you have not just shared an apk?
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Would if I could. Attached to every release is a software release licensing stating that it is not to be handed out.
Android Central featured both Swype and Swiftkey in a review here:
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-centrals-keyboard-roundup
He seemed to prefer Swiftkey as well.
What version is swiftkey up to now? The last one I used was 0.9.3 I think..
I received an email and downloaded the latest version (.9.13) but I am unable to get it to install on DC. I am very impressed with the prediction but it is a litle laggy. Glad to hear the update is faster (if I can get it to work).
Waiting for me email
Just signed up for swiftkey.. Swype still hasn't emailed me yet and I'm using SlideIT now.. SlideIT is working pretty well.. I tried shapewriter, but didn't like it very much. SlideIT will suffice until I get an invite to swype or swiftkey
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I am loving swype... very fast at it now.
SchmediumTux said:
Just signed up for swiftkey.. Swype still hasn't emailed me yet and I'm using SlideIT now.. SlideIT is working pretty well.. I tried shapewriter, but didn't like it very much. SlideIT will suffice until I get an invite to swype or swiftkey
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PM me if you want the swype or swiftkey apk.
i have tried both and only wish swiftkey would do a better pridiction for surrounding letters. swype imo is faster for typing and more accurate. i would love to see swiftkey guess the words better with more choices of guess words. that would make me switch.
swiftkey v0.9.14
I'm on SwiftKey .9.15. It is excellent, but I have two MAJOR complaints:
1. No custom dictionary. Really? What is this, a 2004 Nokia phone? I thought these were called SMART phones
2. It cannot for the life of it figure out verb tense. If I write a future-tense sentece, it'll suggest a past-tense verb and a present-tense verb, but I have to type the future-tense verb out. It's ridiculous.
tylerlannan said:
PM me if you want the swype or swiftkey apk.
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pm'd you - thanks!
Really are the other ones better then ShapeWriter? I just started using it and its not laggy what so ever. I love it and works with my fat fingers.
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