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Hi,
I want to change the ROM on my Kaiser (Orange UK TYTN II) but I am struggling finding some help. I have downloaded all the files from the deconstruct and dump thread but I dont know what to do with them as the instructions dont seems that clear - I know that I need to flash the OS only but I am stuck there. What do I do?
can anyone help me please?
Thanks
Scott
svssolutions said:
Hi,
I want to change the ROM on my Kaiser (Orange UK TYTN II) but I am struggling finding some help. I have downloaded all the files from the deconstruct and dump thread but I dont know what to do with them as the instructions dont seems that clear - I know that I need to flash the OS only but I am stuck there. What do I do?
can anyone help me please?
Thanks
Scott
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The basic is that all shipped ROMs are one flashable NBH file. To manage that file you need two apps. One called NBHExtract to extract the content of NBH file into NB files (search here for it) and htcrt to pack the NB files you need into a NBH. If you need to flash only the OS, then take the 03_OS.NB and pack with htcrt. The use Kaiser CustomRUU to flash the OS only.
Hope that helps you.
Cheers.
Hi, I have downloaded the dutty rom and run the NBHExtract program and its extracted 2 files, now I have used the htcrt and that has created a NB file which I understand that I have to now use the Custom RUU file. Will this just flash the OS file and keep the radio etc? the reason I ask if that I have the Orange UK TYTN 2 and I know that if mess with the Radio file then it will SIM Lock the device. Unless someone else can tell me something else. Does what I have done sound right and will it now work on my TYTN2 without it being unlocked?
I have flashed my UK Orange TyTNII,
Firstly and most importantly i flashed HardSPL which you can find in one of the sticky's, connect your phone and run the .exe file and follow the instructions to install it.
Once i had done that i downloaded the HTC Original Rom, using Winrar i took the NBH file out of the HTC_Original_ROM.exe and placed it in a file. Then using NBHExtract i decompiled it into it's sections (Splash Screen, OS, Radio, SPL, IPL) then i repackaged just the OS.nb back into an NBH file and flashed that to my phone.
Using this method i only altered the OS and I have HardSPL installed for protection against bad flashes.
I did not have any problem with the Phone asking for a SIM unlock code
Hope that helps
Cheers
Mousey
HI,
I am thinking of getting a TyTNII on Orange UK, but because I will be travelling abroad, I want to be able to use local sim cards.
I understand that Orange phones are locked down, what would I have to do to make it 'sim free'?
Do I need to flash the rom as described above?
Also, why is it not good idea to flash the original HTC ROM? The 'sim free' TyTNII can take any sim, whats changed in Orange models?
Thanks in advance for you help.
T-mobile is the same
I would like to get the HTC rom on my Vario III not for simlock just because most of the time the rom is just more stabel how do i do this already flashed my old vario once from wm5 to wm6 but its bin a long time since i have bin here anny help?
roks said:
HI,
I am thinking of getting a TyTNII on Orange UK, but because I will be travelling abroad, I want to be able to use local sim cards.
I understand that Orange phones are locked down, what would I have to do to make it 'sim free'?
Do I need to flash the rom as described above?
Also, why is it not good idea to flash the original HTC ROM? The 'sim free' TyTNII can take any sim, whats changed in Orange models?
Thanks in advance for you help.
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On the Orange TyTnIIs there are two types of locks:
a) CID Lock
b) SIM Lock
The CID lock stops you from loading a replacement ROM on the device.
The SIM lock stops you from using a non-Orange SIM.
The free HardSPL software handles the CID lock issue, allowing the ROM to be replaced.
The SIM lock issue cannot currently be fixed with a free solution. There are people on the forum who can SIM unlock it for you for about 20 quid. This will allow you to use any network's SIM in the device, but in general, has little to do with the ROM upgrade issue (though see next caveat).
If you simply run HardSPL to deal with the CID lock, you can now install a new ROM. However, if you blindly install a ROM that contains a different radio rom to orange's radio rom, then the device will behave as if any SIM, including an Orange SIM, is invalid. To get around this you have two options:
a) Only install a ROM which has no radio rom in it, but only changes the Operating System rom, or
b) pay someone 20 quid so that the phone is SIM unlocked, so that when you run HardSPL and install arbitrary ROMs you have no risk of the above problem occurring.
I went with a), and simply ran HardSPL then installed Sleuth's ROM since it doesn't have a radio rom in it. This worked fine; it replaced all Orange's crappy customisations and works.
Solution a) is not what you are after though. You basically want to use a non-Orange SIM, which means you have to SIM unlock it. This doesn't require the use of any software like HardSPL or any ROM upgrades, but *does* require a 20 quid payment to some bloke (via the horrible paypal system, and apparently he wants a copy of your passport/ID for his safety, which ruled this out for me - I'm happy to pay 20 quid, but certainly not happy to be sending my passport details to men in the shadows). Here's his URL - apparently it takes minutes and is done online: www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php
Hope that helps.
Thanks alot divert, that explains it well.
I take it that the same is true about T-mobile version as well?
I have bought my HTC TyTN II from Orange Netherlands and the ROM language is dutch... therefore I'm struggling to learn as much as possible from this forum how to change the ROM with a WWE one.
This thread is more closely to my situation and I dared to intervene...
So far I understood that first I have to install HardSPL to be able to change the dutch ROM. This is clear to me. Then I have to choose a ROM version (without Radio in it to avoid locking the SIM). Can you help me in this matter to suggest me a stable english ROM? (also the download link if is possible ).
Then I have to install this ROM. Considering that I never did this before I am a little bit afraid not to permanently damage the phone (is it possible?). Some things are not clear to me.
Do I have to dump my dutch ROM before I install the new one or not?
Is it possible to back up the dutch ROM and in case something goes wrong to restore it?
Is not knowing the dutch language a problem during the installation?
What is the simple and safest way to install the new ROM .. can you please have the patience to guide me step by step in this matter? I would really appreciate this...
Thank you!
Later edit: I can PayPal...
roks said:
I take it that the same is true about T-mobile version as well?
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I've no idea roks, sorry. I didn't answer your question for a while as I thought someone who knew might. Perhaps they will. Maybe you need to start a new thread for the TMobile question, as this thread will be read primarily by those on Orange UK I'd guess.
topogan said:
I have bought my HTC TyTN II from Orange Can you help me in this matter to suggest me a stable english ROM? (also the download link if is possible ).
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As I said, I installed Sleuth's ROM, since that does not affect the radio. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343867 - he's put a download link there.
Someone else said that Dutty's Rom also does not affect the radio. Here's the thread for that one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341879 - I have not tried it though, so I can't confirm. If an Orange UK user does try it, please post your results in this thread so that other people can be reassured it works.
Another user, kyphur, is keeping a nice list of current Kaiser ROMs here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343198 but it's not clear from that thread which ROMs don't affect the radio. I had to go and read the individual ROM threads to find out. I repeat, Sleuth's ROM does not affect the radio, and someone else tells me that Dutty's Rom doesn't either.
topogan said:
Do I have to dump my dutch ROM before I install the new one or not?
Is it possible to back up the dutch ROM and in case something goes wrong to restore it?
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I did not back mine up, because I wasn't sure how to restore it, so I just took a risk (silly, really, but fortunately it all worked). Someone did put instructions on how to do all this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066 but I was too lazy to do it.
topogan said:
Is not knowing the dutch language a problem during the installation?
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I don't know anything about the Dutch Orange phones. I only know about the UK Orange phones from what I have read on the forum and from my own experiences. I can't confirm that Dutch Orange devices have the same SIM lock issue as UK Orange phones. Even if they don't, though, I'm reasonably sure the same upgrade process will be fine for you, as it only upgrades the Operating System (OS) ROM.
When I did the upgrade, all the instructions were in english and on the PC, not the phone. You don't need to read anything on the phone itself, so I would say no, the fact that the phone language is Dutch should not be an issue. I assume the hardware is the same (though perhaps you have a different keyboard layout, and I don't know enough about the OS to know if this is an issue). If someone else knows better, please say.
topogan said:
What is the simple and safest way to install the new ROM .. can you please have the patience to guide me step by step in this matter?
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All I can tell you is what I did - remember this is for Orange UK TyTnII:
ORANGE UK TyTnII Rom Upgrade Steps:
First, try to read the Stickies at the top of this forum. Even if it doesn't make a lot of sense to you, there might be something important to you there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=378
Download Kaiser HardSPL and follow the instructions.
Here is the thread with the download link and instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Download a ROM that only affects the OS. I used Sleuth's.
Here is the thread with the download link and instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343867
That's it. It's actually pretty simple despite sounding very scary. This is thanks to the clever people on this forum making these tools for us (thanks guys)
how to unlocked simcard from orange network, so i can use any sim.
yup666 said:
how to unlocked simcard from orange network, so i can use any sim.
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This thread is about changing the TyTnII Orange UK Rom, not SIM unlocking it. Nevertheless, your question was answered as part of post #7, which you should probably read.
In summary, there is currently no free solution to SIM unlock your Orange UK TyTnII. You can pay someone GBP 20 to do it for you: www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php
Hi everyone,
I got a Qtek 8310 but it is sim-locked. I did SuperCID, instaled WM6. I can use other sim card for few minutes, but later on connection to network disappears. Anyone knows how to disable sim-lock completely? I am writting from Lithuania. Phone is locked to Bite network.
Thanks.
ominion said:
Hi everyone,
I got a Qtek 8310 but it is sim-locked. I did SuperCID, instaled WM6. I can use other sim card for few minutes, but later on connection to network disappears. Anyone knows how to disable sim-lock completely? I am writting from Lithuania. Phone is locked to Bite network.
Thanks.
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For unlocking your phone, search the forums more carefully. Easiest option is to install vjgrace's new WM6 ROM.
If you need Russian localisation files, check the WM6 Localisations thread to make sure you can get what you need before you start.
There is also a pretty slimmed down and stable WM5 ROM out there, I believe in Russian.
Any ROM you update to from here will unlock your phone. Just search and you will find.
I do have vjgrace's WM6 ROM instaled but it doesn't help and I tried everything that is possible to try on my phone when searching this forum
I just noticed that when I do *#06# to get IMEI on my phone, it shows IMEI with two 0 at the end. IMEI number under battery is without 00. Could flashing my ROM changed the IMEI number?
ominion said:
I just noticed that when I do *#06# to get IMEI on my phone, it shows IMEI with two 0 at the end. IMEI number under battery is without 00. Could flashing my ROM changed the IMEI number?
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no
There does appear to be a new IMEI changing app up in the dev's forum though. If you need it.
If you've installed the ROM and it's still locked, maybe you need to update your radio? But if it works for even a few minutes, it probably isn't SIM locked. Otherwise it should give you "sim error" or some-such.
I have a HK Chinese language Kaiser and wish to know that if I want to upgrade to WWE or WWE HK version using the official HTC Roms do i need to do any of the hard_spl or CID unlock or can I just upgrade. Basically looking to make it work in english
Thanks
RedChilliDevil said:
I have a HK Chinese language Kaiser and wish to know that if I want to upgrade to WWE or WWE HK version using the official HTC Roms do i need to do any of the hard_spl or CID unlock or can I just upgrade. Basically looking to make it work in english
Thanks
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Start here:http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading and read. It's all been written down before.
Ta
Dave
thanks for the reply
it seems that i should be able to do as a normal upgrade with no need to worry about CID and having to run hard_spl if its the official HTC one. Does that mean that any region rom will work as long as its from their website?
complete noobie as you can tell!!!
RedChilliDevil said:
it seems that i should be able to do as a normal upgrade with no need to worry about CID and having to run hard_spl if its the official HTC one. Does that mean that any region rom will work as long as its from their website?
complete noobie as you can tell!!!
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If your flashing a HTC Rom onto a HTC branded device, you shouldn't need to worry about HardSPL or CID.
HardSPL is a new bootloader that allows you to flash ROM's with a different CID (Carrier ID). If you are flashing one from the same carrier it shouldn't be a problem.
You should only need to do this if you are flashing a Cooked ROM by one of the Chef's on this site.
I think all the above is right...
Can someone please confirm my understanding of this is correct?
Ta
Dave
I believe you'd get an "Invalid Region" error if you tried to flash a WWE Rom to a Chinese Language device? I could easily be wrong though - I've never tried it...
I'd Hard SPL and CID unlock before flashing any Rom's anyway - Official or otherwise (but that's just me).
sub69 said:
I believe you'd get an "Invalid Region" error if you tried to flash a WWE Rom to a Chinese Language device? I could easily be wrong though - I've never tried it...
I'd Hard SPL and CID unlock before flashing any Rom's anyway - Official or otherwise (but that's just me).
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Now you say that, I would always HardSPL before flashing, just in Case.
I've unlocked everything on my device.
Dave
Thanks for the quick response.
Guess I'll do the hard_spl way.
Thanks again
What's wrong? I've tried different update files but they don't work
Please help,
I think I already wrote this on a wrong place!
Just to be sure, do you have a Kaiser?
Do you have HardSPL installed?
Follow these steps for ROM upgrading: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Just to be sure, do you have a Kaiser?
Do you have HardSPL installed?
Follow these steps for ROM upgrading: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Ta
Dave
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Thanks Dave,
In three color screen it says KSIS130 and then SPL_1.93.000, CPLD-8
In fact It's not a locked phone that belongs to any provider! How come I should Install another SPL?
mehrdadr said:
Thanks Dave,
In three color screen it says KSIS130 and then SPL_1.93.000, CPLD-8
In fact It's not a locked phone that belongs to any provider! How come I should Install another SPL?
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Had to ask about the Kaiser, had someone with a Treo trying to use Kaiser Hard SPL the other day
You need to Flash one of the hard SPLs before you can flash ROM's from another carrier. The Hard Spls have the CID (carrier ID) check removed which allows this.
Thanks
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Had to ask about the Kaiser, had someone with a Treo trying to use Kaiser Hard SPL the other day
You need to Flash one of the hard SPLs before you can flash ROM's from another carrier. The Hard Spls have the CID (carrier ID) check removed which allows this.
Thanks
Dave
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What I don't understand is that why my phone is locked? I first tried the HTC website update file, the some others from the links of XDA.
Sorry for stupid questions, I'm not really familiar with all these locking and bought my phone supposed to be without any lock! Could this be the agent of HTC desire?
mehrdadr said:
What I don't understand is that why my phone is locked? I first tried the HTC website update file, the some others from the links of XDA.
Sorry for stupid questions, I'm not really familiar with all these locking and bought my phone supposed to be without any lock! Could this be the agent of HTC desire?
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All phones come CID locked, even the HTC ones, it means you can only flash ROM's made by the same manufacturer as the phone.
Your phone will probably be SIM unlocked meaning you can use any SIM card you like, but to flash a ROM with a different CID isn't possible without Hard SPL.
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
All phones come CID locked, even the HTC ones, it means you can only flash ROM's made by the same manufacturer as the phone.
Your phone will probably be SIM unlocked meaning you can use any SIM card you like, but to flash a ROM with a different CID isn't possible without Hard SPL.
Ta
Dave
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So the one I downloaded from their website must work right?
Yes it's SIM unlocked and works with everything.
I'm still looking for a proper time so that I can start operation on my phone! the big surgery
mehrdadr said:
So the one I downloaded from their website must work right?
Yes it's SIM unlocked and works with everything.
I'm still looking for a proper time so that I can start operation on my phone! the big surgery
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Should do ...
Ta
Dave
Now confision,
It's just due to the low IQ I know
In fact I read different explanation for SPL and found that after I start with SSPL-KAIS.exe then I'll need to have the hard SPL.
What If I want one of the original ROMs from http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Do I need to extract the SPL from one of the original files on the mentioned link? If not Which hard SPL?
And then can I just run one of the WWE shipped .exe files or again the new ROM file must be extracted and being installed?
thanks
mehrdadr said:
It's just due to the low IQ I know
In fact I read different explanation for SPL and found that after I start with SSPL-KAIS.exe then I'll need to have the hard SPL.
What If I want one of the original ROMs from http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Do I need to extract the SPL from one of the original files on the mentioned link? If not Which hard SPL?
And then can I just run one of the WWE shipped .exe files or again the new ROM file must be extracted and being installed?
thanks
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Actually, you dont need to do HardSPL or CID unlock for ROM upgrading,.
Those thing are used to make a smoother ROM (remove white screen, freeze, etc),.
When i have my TyTN at the second day, i flash to WM.6, and all works well,.
Make sure that you have download Kaiser ROM,.
make sure you dont have any corrupted download,.
ps: until now, my TyTN never been CID Unlocked,.
Garmin said:
Actually, you dont need to do HardSPL or CID unlock for ROM upgrading,.
Those thing are used to make a smoother ROM (remove white screen, freeze, etc),.
When i have my TyTN at the second day, i flash to WM.6, and all works well,.
Make sure that you have download Kaiser ROM,.
make sure you dont have any corrupted download,.
ps: until now, my TyTN never been CID Unlocked,.
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No I'm even more and worse confused!!! I think Dave says that I need to Unlock the CID. However in some of the articles I think I read that to.
By the way none of the files I downloaded worked on my phone. Really I tried several, either from the HTC website or from XDA but same Invalid Vender ID comes to the PC displaye
mehrdadr said:
No I'm even more and worse confused!!! I think Dave says that I need to Unlock the CID. However in some of the articles I think I read that to.
By the way none of the files I downloaded worked on my phone. Really I tried several, either from the HTC website or from XDA but same Invalid Vender ID comes to the PC displaye
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Just flash one of the hard SPL 3.* by Jockyw2001 and all should be OK.
Ta
Dave.
Hello to all:
Only after try searching in forum and google i decided to wirte in this fantastic forum. Sorry for my poor english....
I have a ebay-purchased Artemis (P3300) and, using Opera mobile it freeze and I swithched off. It never change Windows Mobile more....
It only reachs the bootloader mode and if I try to charge another ROM but I can't because it give an ID error. The device is not CID unlocked....
I try to unlock it:
- Kaiser unlocker: not posible, requires ActiveSync
- SuperCID: the same above
- Blackstone Cid unlocker: Is my solution....but doesn't work!!
Changing the Vista-driver and in Xp I get the same promp:
Device no response (or similar)
I can use RUU with mtty without problem.
The posibles solutions the I can understand throught this forum are:
- Technical Service: No posible, the ebay-vendor removed the IMEI - without IMEI they don't repare without a legal IMEI (and in garantee...)
- Hard Reset: doesn't work, the device format his internal device, start windows installation and it freeze completely.
- CID unlock: Only posible in bootloader mode and in doesn't work with blackStone
- Original ROM: If i could find the original ROM, the device will complete the actualization and (with lots of luck...) restart the device OK
There is another solution?? a tecnical service without IMEI requirement??
Thank you very much, I'm waiting hopefully answer....
thanks!!
hewelpakar said:
Hello to all:
Only after try searching in forum and google i decided to wirte in this fantastic forum. Sorry for my poor english....
I have a ebay-purchased Artemis (P3300) and, using Opera mobile it freeze and I swithched off. It never change Windows Mobile more....
It only reachs the bootloader mode and if I try to charge another ROM but I can't because it give an ID error. The device is not CID unlocked....
I try to unlock it:
- Kaiser unlocker: not posible, requires ActiveSync
- SuperCID: the same above
- Blackstone Cid unlocker: Is my solution....but doesn't work!!
Changing the Vista-driver and in Xp I get the same promp:
Device no response (or similar)
I can use RUU with mtty without problem.
The posibles solutions the I can understand throught this forum are:
- Technical Service: No posible, the ebay-vendor removed the IMEI - without IMEI they don't repare without a legal IMEI (and in garantee...)
- Hard Reset: doesn't work, the device format his internal device, start windows installation and it freeze completely.
- CID unlock: Only posible in bootloader mode and in doesn't work with blackStone
- Original ROM: If i could find the original ROM, the device will complete the actualization and (with lots of luck...) restart the device OK
There is another solution?? a tecnical service without IMEI requirement??
Thank you very much, I'm waiting hopefully answer....
thanks!!
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Hi,
Without IMEI your device is useless. Send it back to the vendor.
Dirk
I know....
I know but without IMEI is not useful, but I purchased it three months ago and now i can't ask anything to the vendor....
Then, do you think that it is a hardware problem or a software prolem??
Thank a lot!
hewelpakar said:
I know but without IMEI is not useful, but I purchased it three months ago and now i can't ask anything to the vendor....
Then, do you think that it is a hardware problem or a software prolem??
Thank a lot!
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It's both... the SW needs the IMEI (hardcoded in the HW) to check if the device is accessible. IMEI is like an ID-card for humans... without ID you don't exist, just like a phone without IMEI doesn't exist.
Will look nice as paperweight though
Dirk
No IMEI stick
The device has an IMEI and was functionally for two months without any problems... but the IMEI stick is not attached into the battery hole.
Then, in real the device has an IMEI and can work as a telephone, but I have no way to know it....
His use as paperweight is the last choice...i hope!!, In this case....it will be an very beautiful one....
Then, If i could restore the ROM on the device, maybe it would work properly...
Any idea to restore it??
thank a lot!!
hewelpakar said:
The device has an IMEI and was functionally for two months without any problems... but the IMEI stick is not attached into the battery hole.
Then, in real the device has an IMEI and can work as a telephone, but I have no way to know it....
His use as paperweight is the last choice...i hope!!, In this case....it will be an very beautiful one....
Then, If i could restore the ROM on the device, maybe it would work properly...
Any idea to restore it??
thank a lot!!
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Did you look around in the Artemis fora ?
Dirk