Hi folks.
My Tornado (imate sp5) was flashed from factory WM5 to WM6 with VJ Grace 3.3, it worked just fine. One day I lost conenctivity via activesync over the usb cable. BT activesync still works fine. I had not done anything to the connecter port other than using USB cable to activesync occasionally, and to use the wall charger.
After 2 months of going like this, I decided to upgrade to a newer Nitrogen ROM, and I enter the bootloader mode by pressig the camera button and plugging in the usb cable. The three color screen comes just fine.
Now, when I attach the USB cable, I do not see the small writing "USB" at the lower left hand corner.
Also I cannot connect it with Terraterm pro or the RUU utility, says phone is not connected via the USB.
But my usb cable still charges the phone when connected to the PC, even though activesync doesnt do anything.
Is there anything I can do?
Can it be a hardware error? Or a registry change I might have done using smarttweaks (enable/disable charging over usb-- I dont remember). If so can it be restored or undone?
I tried hard resets (clear storage and leftsoftkey/rightsoftkey/powerbutton combinations), but still it doesnt recognise activesync.
My other windows mobile devices get connected to same pc activesync with no problem, using the same data cable. Heck I even repaired by reflashing a friend's Wizard using the same pc and cable last week.
Is it possible that my tornado's usb connector port might have gone poof (it still charges the phone), and is there any remedy to that?
Thanks for reading, and please help..
Regards,
Steve
I've got the same problem. I can't connect via AS:/
I had a similar problem once in a while when I upgraded my phone to WM6; it seemed almost random. One day, the phone wouldn't switch out of Vibrate mode, and ActiveSync wouldn't synch with the phone. The first time it happened, I had VJGrace's 3.3, and 3.4 had just come out, so I went ahead and flashed it. I didn't format binfs or anything (which, in my experience isn't necessary for a functioning OS flash, just a clean one) but it flashed a fresh WM6 on, and the problem went away.
Then, a couple weeks later, I had the same problem again. It was right around the time that VJ's 3.7 came out, so I flashed that (again without format binfs) and it fixed the problem again.
Then, a couple weeks later, I had the same problem yet again. This time, Nitro's Platinum Edition had just come out, so I flashed it. Haven't had the problem again.
Interesting note - since I got my Tornado, my first Smartphone, I have only ever done the format binfs once - the first time I flashed WM6. Haven't done it since. It's my opinion that format binfs gives you a CLEAN install of WinMobile, but is not strictly necessary.
So, to summarize: try direct-flashing a new WM6 install. Just plug in the USB cable - ignore ActiveSync when it fails to synchronize - and run the updater program. It'll take care of the rest, even if AS doesn't synch.
djsleepwalker:
If you lost USB connectivity, how did you flash your phone?
Should I read between the lines that the bootloader connected properly and that it was a WM6 driver problem?
Exitao said:
djsleepwalker:
If you lost USB connectivity, how did you flash your phone?
Should I read between the lines that the bootloader connected properly and that it was a WM6 driver problem?
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To be totally honest, I'm not 100% certain. See, ActiveSync wouldn't SYNCH with the phone, but I could still "Explore" the phone. WM6 was active and working, and charged via USB cable, it just wouldn't synch.
So, after I connected the USB cable and ActiveSync popped up a message that said it couldn't synchronize with the phone, I just started up the ROMUpdateUtility program. It rebooted the phone into the bootloader for me.
I honestly never tried to start it back up in bootloader mode. The only reason I decided to just flash a new ROM was because I had already downloaded the ROM, but where I was at the time, I had no internet access (and therefore couldn't remember the steps before flashing the new ROM.) A friend of mine who has a Wizard (and who, I think, might be a member of this forum) suggested that I didn't *have* to format binfs to put an updated ROM on the phone, so I said screw it. I needed it out of Vibrate mode (my phone is my second alarm - my second line of defense against oversleeping) so I flashed the new ROM.
ninja edit: If ccpraveen is getting *nothing* when he connects the USB, then my suggestion probably won't help. But if Windows recognizes something being connected, and he can *explore* the phone, but ActiveSync just won't synchronize, then he's probably having the same problem I was. I can't tell for sure from reading his post.
Sweet...
Thanks for the comments, its all dejavu again
Djsleepwalker's comments did make me wonder, hey this is exactly my problem, except that mine doesnt connect in any manner.
Lots of similarities, problems started with VJ 3.3, on and off for a while with USB, then totally lost connection.
I am not concerned with formatting BINFS now, I somehow want to get the phone recognized.
Exitao has actually asked a VERY VALID query. It is indeed impossible to flash a phone without any USB connectivity (unless via an SD image or something). Djsleepwalker's issue was minimal, only that the PC was not showing up the activesync as connected, but indeed there WAS a connection, he could explore the phone from the pc etc, and I bet if he did go into the 3 color screen, he would have seen the "USB" on the left lower portion.
So, mine is just that. No connectivity. Nada. PC just sits dumb. Phone just gets charged, and finally into the fully charged green LED. Thats it.
Could there be something in VJ's ROM that is doing this?
I wonder, because a Wizard I once tried to repair would not let me flash upgrade either. I had to go back to a basic BUTTON ROM to get the upgrades running properly again. But there atleast I had connectivity then.
After I read DJ's comments, I tried running the RUU straight, without getting into the bootloader (for a change). Again its the same error 260. Here is a screenshot.
Anybody?
Regards
Steve
It seems, from the description, that the activesync profile became corrupt.
Deleting any device profiles from Activesync and connecting the phone as a new device might also solve the problem. However, it might be active synch on the phone that is the problem...
Anyone unsure how serious their problem is should just turn off the USB connect in activesync, start the phone into boot loader and do an "info 2" with terraterm pro.
If terraterm discovers the device, the USB is not the problem. It's activesynch.
Terraterm pro would not connect either.
I started the phone into bootloader by plugging in the usb while keeping the camera button pressed. Started the terraterm pro, selected Serial > USB, clicked Ok, Terraterm says ERROR, Cannot Open.
One minor thing, what do ppl normally see in their bootscreens? I see these lines, Tornado IPL 2.00 Tornado SPL 2.00.0000 and another line Tornado IU.
I dont remember seeing this third line saying Tornado IU before. Is it normal? It is in the middle zone( green coloured zone).
I believe my usb connector port might have a physical error. What else it could be. PC just will not detect ANY sort of USB connection.
Thanks again Exitao, I am stumped.
Regards
Steve
Have you tried any other USB ports on your computer? I know it's a longshot, but on my desktop PC one of the onboard USB ports just doesn't function at all. The other three do.
ninja edit: Maybe try it on another computer, too?
I tried on all four USB ports of my laptop, as well as on another Desktop PC I have.
Even without activesync installed, plugging in this should bring out a DING, saying something has been connected to the PC USB. (and asking for drivers, if Activesync was not installed. Here nothing happens, no DING). Remember, the same USB port is being used to sync my Wizard, Blackjack 2 and my old Himalaya even now.
Another possible reason, I was using a dumb chinese charger for charging the phone, after I lost the original one. Could that might have fried the usb pins?
ccpraveen said:
I tried on all four USB ports of my laptop, as well as on another Desktop PC I have.
Even without activesync installed, plugging in this should bring out a DING, saying something has been connected to the PC USB. (and asking for drivers, if Activesync was not installed. Here nothing happens, no DING). Remember, the same USB port is being used to sync my Wizard, Blackjack 2 and my old Himalaya even now.
Another possible reason, I was using a dumb chinese charger for charging the phone, after I lost the original one. Could that might have fried the usb pins?
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Please excuse me if I'm stating the obvious, or if I'm a bit off, as I don't haven't used my Tornado in a bit (upgraded to Touch Cruise), but in the last ROM I used, NitroGen's latest WM6 version, there was an option in settings to disable usb connectivity and only allow USB charging. Perhaps VJ's ROM has the same option and you activated it. Have you already checked this?
Did you remeber to uncheck "Alllow USB connections" in activesync before you connected the boot-loaded phone?
This may be a hardware problem. Is it possible to use a can of compressed air to blow out any dust or debris from the USB socket on the phone?
Do you have WMStorage on your phone? If not, can you load it onto your storage card and install/run the app and see if the PC will recognise your device as a USB mass storage device?
I guess you also want to check the Device Manager in Windows and check for any exclamaition marks (!) or "bangs." Both with the phone disconnected and connected, and maybe even with wmstorage enabled. If it does show your phone in the device manager, delete or remove the device in the manager and reboot.
(To get to device manager, you can right click on "my computer" and select "properties", or press the Windows key and the Pause/Break key, or go to the control panel applet.)
BTW: is this XP?
If you are using Vista, try the following:
Step 1: Press Start
Step 2: Select settings
Step 3: Select (6) Connections
Step 4: Select (0) More
Step 5: Select (1) USB to PC
Changing the type of USB connection your device uses can help with problems
connecting ActiveSync.
Step 6: Disable the option - Enable advanced network functionality
Step 7: Press done 3 times
Step 8: Return to main screen.
Step 9: Uninstall unrecognized USB device in device manager (on PC)
Step 10: reboot Phone and reconnect
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If XP, keep going...
You've stated that the PC is recognising your other devices. Isn't there a limit to the number of windows mobile devices you can sync or associate with one installation of activesync? Can you delete a device and try again?
Is USB charging enabled or disabled in your phone? Try toggling the setting to opposite whatever it is.
If you are using a firewall app, add these programs to your firewall's exemptions:
# Wcesmgr.exe
# Wcescomm.exe
# Rapimgr.exe
Or simply disable any firewalls, network traffic optimisers or possibly antivirus (some have network protections) app to test if that has an effect.
Ok guys..
I will try doing all these, step by step and lets see
And accept my sincere gratitude from my heart for detailing all these info for me, I am soo deeply moved
Sincerely
Steve
ccpraveen said:
Ok guys..
I will try doing all these, step by step and lets see
And accept my sincere gratitude from my heart for detailing all these info for me, I am soo deeply moved
Sincerely
Steve
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No need for thanx. If I helped, just give Nitro a donation on my behalf.
Well guys, with deep regret, I must say, even after trying all that, the phone stays put. PC wont recognise it, neither as a phone nor as a mass storage device. The connector port must have gone kaput.
I kinda feel stupid, u know, with all the tweaks and hacks out there, what use it is, if the dumb thing wont be recognised? Hmm.. So much for the tornado, now stuck at VJ 3.3 (unless someone find a way to flash via an SD image or something).
Well, thanks guys, your support did make me feel better, in the WM world, all is not lost, as long as there are good souls like you, willing to help, live and let live.
Regards
Steve.
PS: If the phone was not recognised in the bootloader mode, (ie even before the operating system has kicked in), I guess there should not be any difference if activesync was installed or not; and if or not mass storage option is enabled or not, right? Well, correct me if I am wrong, I think so. Could be wrong.
This is probably a useless comment, but have you tried using bluetooth instead of usb to connect to your computer?
Have u tried to delete the network card from XP device manager ?
U can also disable advanced network functionnality from your smartphone in "settings" -> "connections" -> "USB to PC"
Good luck
Can You Tried Different Usb Cable :d
i have some problem, after flashing to WM6 activesync or WM5torage can't connect..i have HTC prophet too, and i use same usb cable & PC, my HTC Prophet still can connect via activesync or WM5torage
*please..please..help us
I UPGRADEd vjgace Build_5.2.1616.18120_____v3.7 three days before today i can't connect to usb i tried diffrent app(activesync,wm5storage,internetsharing) but i can't connect so i go to bootloder mode and checked devicemanager i found device so i flashed nitrogenius rom and now working usb. try upgrade other ROM ON BOOTLODER MODE.
Hi friends,
I am having a very weird situation here and I need your help.
My phone was working perfectly after the last time I have upgraded the rom which happened a couple days ago. Then yesterday I have discovered that my phone is turning on and off on its own. It turns on, then after a few seconds it turns off and then turns on again.
When I hard reset, it gets stuck at the smart mobility screen.
I can enter the bootloader screen by pressing the camera key and inserting the usb cable. The tri-color screen shows usb at the bottom left corner. When I run mtty, it says the usb port cannot open.
I know that it has sufficient power in the batteries (tried with two different batteries I have). However, when I plug it to a wall charger the charging light doesn't turn on.
So basically I have a tornado which cannot boot, mtty seems not able to recognize it. Is there any way to push an SPL, radio rom or OS rom to the phone? Is it possible to flash a tornado with an SDcard?
I really need some help here as I am out of ideas. thanks in advance.
Did you try hard resetting it? (While off holding both softkeys and then pushing the power button)? If so, flashing from card is possible...you just have to install the original ROM though. Google this: Tor_TMOUS_10140_191916_10900_SHIP.exe
Extract it then copy the nbf file to your memory card.
You may have to rename it and change the headers though...that I don't know
Here might help you by the way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409286&highlight=original+rom
Good luck!
Your problem is more likely seems the power key is stuck.
thacen said:
Your problem is more likely seems the power key is stuck.
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I am almost sure that this is not the case because I can use the power button for shutting the device off and restarting it, etc.
My only hope is to be able to flash from the SDCard now, as unforsakenrule mentioned. The problem is I need a step by step guide to do that.
burkay said:
When I run mtty, it says the usb port cannot open.
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Did you disable the USB connection from ActiveSync properties?
I had had a similar problem which was solved after reinstalling the ROM.
NiTroGenious said:
Did you disable the USB connection from ActiveSync properties?
I had had a similar problem which was solved after reinstalling the ROM.
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sure I did. The problem is no matter what the device is not recognized by the pc. mtty, activesync, tera term, etc. all fail whether usb connection is enabled or not. Weirdly, in the bootloader menu it says USB in the bottom left.
It really sucks, because I have the bootloader there but I cannot load anything to the device to recover it.
While it is in bootloader screen activesync couldn't connect or it could not detect your device. If you want to connect by teratermpro you need to disable USB connection from active sync otherwise teraterm could not connect your device.
I think your PC will not show you any connection symbol while connecting in bootloader but you may hear some sound while connecting or disconnecting.
One thing you can try is just try reflashing a stable rom by just running RomUpdateUtility. If it cannot find your device then check on your PC's Hardware device manager, if there is any unworking driver. if such driver is there just uninstall it and try connecting again.
May be it can solve your problem.
thanks for the advise, but I pretty much tried everything... everything except an SDCard flash. And that, I don't know how to do. I have been an HTC user for the last few years. This iMate SP5, which I owned a year ago, belongs to my sister now. I now have a Hermes, waiting for the prices to come down before ordering my touch pro. I flashed tens of roms in both devices, connected using mtty, teraterm etc. many times. This is the first time I am totally left clueless and I believe this is what we call a brick, indeed
Hello,
I have a problem with a connecting my SGH-i780 to PC. I have a german version BHHF1. When I connect it to PC, the PC don't recognize it. I try all settings in Connetion menu but nothing help. When I try start it in emergency mode, it connect it, but can not recognize it. I installed modem drivers and ActiveSync software but nothing help. I use Mirage and press detect in emergency mode, but nothing help.
Man i am having exactly the same problem with this friends phone, there i go trying to show off, I'm like "sure I can fix your phone I know all about that stuff'...yeah right, I can not even get the pc to recognize the i780.
The pc does see that something is there because it makes the usb connect chime, it just does not recognize and fails.
Could it have something to do with the phone being from Holland (that is where this woman is from and she is so hot and what a accent) because I do not know what to do....help....please!
help please
please can anyone helþ?
I got the same problem too, but looking at this thread not many people are facing the problem i feel and have you found an answer yet?
As this is an HTC devices only forum you won´t get too much atention.
However in off topic there is a thread regarding samsung, or try one of this options:
http://www.google.com.mx/search?cli...msung+forums&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Good luck,
Dear Folk,
I bought a brand new Nexus S and it is bugging when connecting to my computer (WinXP, SP2). I mean when allowing debugging, clicking on the connection icon to activate the USB connection, it switches to the next screen with orange Android icon but straight away, it comes back to the invite screen with the green Android icon as picture attached.
I've done many forums before writting you and most of them where talking about drivers or rooting phone which I don't want yet. Seems drivers are good as when plugging, I hear the sound from my pc and icon is recognized as 'Android phone'.
Anyone can help me, please ? Let me know if more info is needed from my side.
Cheers,
Burningjo said:
Dear Folk,
I bought a brand new Nexus S and it is bugging when connecting to my computer (WinXP, SP2). I mean when allowing debugging, clicking on the connection icon to activate the USB connection, it switches to the next screen with orange Android icon but straight away, it comes back to the invite screen with the green Android icon as picture attached.
I've done many forums before writting you and most of them where talking about drivers or rooting phone which I don't want yet. Seems drivers are good as when plugging, I hear the sound from my pc and icon is recognized as 'Android phone'.
Anyone can help me, please ? Let me know if more info is needed from my side.
Cheers,
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Check whether there is something wrong with your computer. Try using PDAnet software for installing the driver again.
Still have issues do a factory reset.
Settings-->Privacy-->Factory data reset.
Thanks saranyan !
I did the factory reset and was still not working properly even with PDANet installed. Suddenly I had a light and changed the USB port ... plugged my phone on the back PC ... it was working fine like magic !!!
Anyway, thanks for having answered me. Topic can be closed !