Read Before Upgrading To 6.1! - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

hey, i upgraded to schaps 6.1, didnt really like it so i then downgraded back to one of duttys roms. i then noticed that the gps wasnt working. i flashed a few different roms, even back to the original atnt rom with the original radio, and still nothing. the only way i got it to work is by upgrading back to schaps 6.1... i posted in the kaiser forum and other people hae experienced the same problem...whats going on?

omaralt said:
hey, i upgraded to schaps 6.1, didnt really like it so i then downgraded back to one of duttys roms. i then noticed that the gps wasnt working. i flashed a few different roms, even back to the original atnt rom with the original radio, and still nothing. the only way i got it to work is by upgrading back to schaps 6.1... i posted in the kaiser forum and other people hae experienced the same problem...whats going on?
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No issues here...tried every 6.1 and was always able to get GPS to work.

alltheway said:
No issues here...tried every 6.1 and was always able to get GPS to work.
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But did you try a 6.0 ROM after trying a 6.1?

Problem with GPS
I tried a couple of 6.1 ROMs. Alec's beta had the issue of eventually connecting but it took about 10 minutes. I then tried a couple of others same thing.
Went back to Alec's Beta2, perfect. Using Quick GPS and CoPilot, maybe 30 seconds!!
Hope that helps.

benlane said:
I tried a couple of 6.1 ROMs. Alec's beta had the issue of eventually connecting but it took about 10 minutes. I then tried a couple of others same thing.
Went back to Alec's Beta2, perfect. Using Quick GPS and CoPilot, maybe 30 seconds!!
Hope that helps.
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Did you downgrade the radio to for example 1.27.12.17

ya when u go to 6.1 the gps works, its only when you downgrade back to 6.0 that some ppl seem to be having the problem where the gps doesnt work.. here is the link for the other discussion about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365851

of course everybody is downgrading their radios too when they downgrade to v6.0...
right?

Thanks for the warning. But I think your situation is isolated to a VERY small portion of phones. I have had around 50 or so ROMs on my phone 6.0 and 6.1... been back and forth... and never had a problem with the GPS on any of them. The GPS is one function that I always check out while testing a ROM.

GPS Issue
I have upgraded to 6.1 back down to 6.0 then back up to 6.1 and had no GPS Issues at all.

GPS works fine on my tilt, i flash every 3hrs, i've flashed almost every rom out there and never had a gps issues.

This is an issue. What fixed it for me was flashing to EVO 2.0. I believe it is a problem with the warm start in the gps tool. You need quick gps because it cold starts.
I know a lot are going to say that's not true blah blah either way that fixed it for me.
Edit: Not EVO but SNE 2.0 i meant

my gps isnt working, it says it cant connect. i'm running DCS 1.4 WM6.1 rom, radio i downgraded to 1.58.26.20, still cant connect. any ideas? thanks!
i also ran the Cingular PDA MediaNet MMS Settingsv2.cab i got off of this forum somewhere, still no go. going back to 1.64.08.21 for the meantime to see if that does it...

switched back to sleuth's 3.0 with the 1.64.08.21 radio, no gps problems. weird.

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WM6 not yet ready for the wizard?

I tested over 10 different WM6 roms over the last 6 weeks. All of them are crashing a couple of times a day. Getting tired of missing calls or hanging wizard I decided to start cooking my own roms.
First in the kitchen from Faria. DEV-Wizcrossbow Clean v2. But the roms that came out where also crashing. Then the InGeNeTiC Kitchen same. Then the dOUbleofour_Wiz_Kitchen.
I wanted a good WM6 rom because I just like all the new little changes.
Am I the only one having those crashes at least 5 times a day? Or am I using the phone to haevy? ---> 40 calls a day, 1000 contacts, 2000 items in the calendar. None other application loaded as the defaults except TomTom.
Yesterday I decided to go back to WM5. I installed the excellent rom from Molski.biz He has put the crossbow team in it. It looks like the new WM6 roms.
And today I didn't have any crash!!!
Please I would like to hear other comments about the daily use of WM6. In all the forums I only read about a working or not working single program.
FYI
I have a WIZA200 (Original from t-mobile Netherlands)
Radio 2.19.11
IPL/SPL 2.21
Unlocked
Thanks,
Conrad
conradh said:
I tested over 10 different WM6 roms over the last 6 weeks. All of them are crashing a couple of times a day. Getting tired of missing calls or hanging wizard I decided to start cooking my own roms.
First in the kitchen from Faria. DEV-Wizcrossbow Clean v2. But the roms that came out where also crashing. Then the InGeNeTiC Kitchen same. Then the dOUbleofour_Wiz_Kitchen.
I wanted a good WM6 rom because I just like all the new little changes.
Am I the only one having those crashes at least 5 times a day? Or am I using the phone to haevy? ---> 40 calls a day, 1000 contacts, 2000 items in the calendar. None other application loaded as the defaults except TomTom.
Yesterday I decided to go back to WM5. I installed the excellent rom from Molski.biz He has put the crossbow team in it. It looks like the new WM6 roms.
And today I didn't have any crash!!!
Please I would like to hear other comments about the daily use of WM6. In all the forums I only read about a working or not working single program.
FYI
I have a WIZA200 (Original from t-mobile Netherlands)
Radio 2.19.11
IPL/SPL 2.21
Unlocked
Thanks,
Conrad
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Go try TNT 2.0. You should be plesantly surprised!
what carrier do you use and what in what state/country
I Am in the Netherlands Europe
notyourdaddy said:
what carrier do you use and what in what state/country
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I am from The Netherlands. I am using the network of KPN the largest network provider overhere.
what radio version are you using
WM6 TNT 2.0 Good or Not
mmeyer4663 said:
Go try TNT 2.0. You should be plesantly surprised!
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That one I haven't tried. Do you know a link or tread to find it?
haha i made a classic mistake, sorry noob i didnt read your post properly , did you try upgrading your radio to 2.69?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312867
Radio 02.19.11
mini_man said:
what radio version are you using
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Is the radio version important for not crashing? Using this radio version in combination with molski.biz wm5 rom gives very good reception.
it should help stability and not missing calls.
Well I ran almost all WM6 romz and no matter what radio ver. I used I either got Missed calls, SMS, or could Not reconnect back the GPRS once I would reboot or had Lost signal
I tried RAdio ver.
2.47.11
2.19
2.69
They were all no good for me. I"m in the US and I"m in the NYC and NJ area
It was so bad I had to go back to WM5
I'm going back to Wm5 tonight when I get a chance, I'm not getting 90% of the SMS messages I'm told were sent or tested.. Used radio 2.61 and 2.19UK.
I get calls with 2.19, but no SMS.
I use Cingular/ATT and am in FL.
I am using 2.47 T-Mobile, Denver, CO.
Yeah 2.19UK didn't work for me either and I use Cingular in Atlanta. I switched to 2.47.11 and I am having better luck
Bahahah, I just bricked my G3 running a Wm5 update.
Hit 99% of the install and my computer BSOD'd with a USB error.
Now I can't install anything. Fantastic.
I installed the Crossbow Professional 1.7 based on Faria's ROM. At first I was pleasantly surprised and love the new features and look, but after about a week my directpush stopped working, I rebooted and now doing that caused me to lose registry settings and since then it has been crashing quite a bit, no calls, missed calls, no emails. For some reason my clock reset to 24 hr military style, my ring tone changed to something completely different...
What I don't understand is that MS demoed WM6 on the wizard and if you look at the new table interface MS demonstrated, they have an MDA there as well... why give up on this solid performed and not issue WM6 officially. It pisses me of that T-Mo US wants me to spend $300 to buy their Wing to get Mobile 6 when the MDA is completely sufficient. Especially since they don't even have the 3G network rolled out. I'd rather switch to AT&T and get the 8525 - the download speed is amazing on 3G.
Sorry for the rant...
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I installed the Crossbow Professional 1.7 based on Faria's ROM. At first I was pleasantly surprised and love the new features and look, but after about a week my directpush stopped working, I rebooted and now doing that caused me to lose registry settings and since then it has been crashing quite a bit, no calls, missed calls, no emails. For some reason my clock reset to 24 hr military style, my ring tone changed to something completely different...
What I don't understand is that MS demoed WM6 on the wizard and if you look at the new table interface MS demonstrated, they have an MDA there as well... why give up on this solid performed and not issue WM6 officially. It pisses me of that T-Mo US wants me to spend $300 to buy their Wing to get Mobile 6 when the MDA is completely sufficient. Especially since they don't even have the 3G network rolled out. I'd rather switch to AT&T and get the 8525 - the download speed is amazing on 3G.
Sorry for the rant...
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I'm also in Florida and didn't have much luck with previous WM6 ROMs. When the InGeNeTiCs dogfood ROM was released, I installed the plain-jane version and had no problems. I decided to cook my own using mattk_r's Stripped and Ready kitchen and haven't had any problems whatsoever. I use the 2.19UK radio and have no missed calls, no ringtone changes (which I had with previous WM6 ROMs), no MMS problems (other than the sync issue which plagues everyone). I highly suggest cooking your own - put what you want in there and experiment. Once you find a mixture that you like, you'll be one happy WM6 user.
I'd suggest you leave out your WAP settings (keep GPRS from connecting) and see if you still have issues.
From what I've seen and read, the phones have a hard time juggling data and phone functions, and supposedly this is a weakness in all PDA phones like ours.
Same thing here
I have a US T-mobile MDA g3 too.
Been flash many wm6 ROMs. Then flash back wm5 because wm6 freeze on me all the time.
I just flashed TNT2 it seems better all my application works (spb shell, insight codewallet, memmaid, phatpad....) but still freeze once a while take quit long time to boot (it turns off by itself couple of time I have to take out the battery to boot) I will give other week test then decide to keep it or not .
All those wm6 roms none of them flawless on MDA, sometime not compatible with certain software I have, sometime just no sound after use the earphone ...
So T-mobile will never give out the official wm6rom for MDA? Like they did for Dash?
jonahy said:
I have a US T-mobile MDA g3 too.
So T-mobile will never give out the official wm6rom for MDA? Like they did for Dash?
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nope. they released the wing to basically screw us that bought the MDA. oh well im going to get the kaiser when it comes out anyways.
no problems with crashes here on any of the tested wm6 roms. running xplore 2.0 for some time now and still think its the best rom for me

Any Tilt Owners on WM6.1?

I would like to hear some stories from Tilt owners who have installed any of the WM6.1 ROMs. Good, bad, fugly!?!
I installed schaps and i cant get MMS Tried the official so they say one. Also same thing
error synchronizing.....
I installed Alex's on my Tilt. I must say it's my favorite ROM I've used so far. MUCH faster (apparently directdraw works!? Not sure if it's a hack or it works now), threaded SMS is awesome, and overall I think it's great.
agreenagent said:
I installed Alex's on my Tilt. I must say it's my favorite ROM I've used so far. MUCH faster (apparently directdraw works!? Not sure if it's a hack or it works now), threaded SMS is awesome, and overall I think it's great.
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What radio did you install on it and do you have the sound issue?
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What radio did you install on it and do you have the sound issue?
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His ROM comes with a Radio. TCPMP doesn't work though. Unless you go to ROM 3.02.405.0
No sound issues with that radio.
Honestly I don't think I updated the radio, I think Alex's rom came with the new radio. It's now the 1.64.06.04 radio. I was going to upgrade it to this anyway. I have zero issues with it at all. Voice is clear, signal is great and battery drain is less than before (could just be the new WM, though).
I have to admit to something, although he in not often on this site, Schaps ROM worked for me the best. I am still using the old radio 12.17 with Schaps beta 6.1. I cleaned some of the issues and installed few programs and the battery life is the best. maybe demographics or where you live in relationship to the service source has some to do with battery consumption....
asfoor said:
I have to admit to something, although he in not often on this site, Schaps ROM worked for me the best. I am still using the old radio 12.17 with Schaps beta 6.1. I cleaned some of the issues and installed few programs and the battery life is the best. maybe demographics or where you live in relationship to the service source has some to do with battery consumption....
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Well, of course if your signal is worse, the chip has to work harder (i.e. more energy) to keep your signal. The rest has to do with ROMs and/or software telling it things like how frequently to poll for calls and things of that sort.
But it seems that WM6.1 does have better battery life (less drain). I have the new radio rom so I can't control for that, though.
asfoor said:
I have to admit to something, although he in not often on this site, Schaps ROM worked for me the best. I am still using the old radio 12.17 with Schaps beta 6.1. I cleaned some of the issues and installed few programs and the battery life is the best. maybe demographics or where you live in relationship to the service source has some to do with battery consumption....
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I also noticed battery life is excellent with that version of the Chinese hacked BETA version build. Dutty is using the same one and the battery life is quite astounding!
The only issue I've had with non-ATT based ROMs is most don't seem to like Over-the-Air Activesync/Direct Push for some reason. They will connect fine to the server but don't consistently maintain a connection full time. Sometime I'll check the Activesync and it won't be connect and have the last successful connected date/time shown.
With the ATT based ROMs it always shows connected when I check Activesync on the device.
Other than that I've only had the standard common problems already reported like the soft-reset issue.
What about 14.09 any issues with WiMo 6.1?
I think DCS's rom has solved the soft-reset problem.
I'm on Schap's 4.31 now with 12.17 radio. Will do the upgrade soon. Only concern is do I need to install both the rom and radio at one go or can I install the os first then pick the radio afterwards?
I'm running Alex's Beta on mine.
I've been on it since yesterday, and killed my battery twice now playing with it. I've not noticed the delay in button pressing that was in all the 6.0 roms I tried.
The radio acts the same as the last radio I had (see sig)... but then I've not gone outside a 100 yard radius since I flashed the phone.
Overall, it definately seems faster to me.
As for battery.... meh. I've been using the crap outta the phone. Bluetooth calls, Bluetooth transfers, internet (over the network), wifi, games, setting the phone up, cab installs, you name it. Tomorrow I might get a better handle on how the battery acts since it will be a normal workday for me, and I'll have less time to play with it.
agreenagent said:
I installed Alex's on my Tilt. I must say it's my favorite ROM I've used so far. MUCH faster (apparently directdraw works!? Not sure if it's a hack or it works now), threaded SMS is awesome, and overall I think it's great.
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Do you have a link to this ROM?
grizzley said:
Do you have a link to this ROM?
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Walla
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WYLTSQYP
You are a quick MF!!!!!
Any link to the thread about the ROM? I've tried several in the past 24 hours and so far, none are worth upgrading to IMO.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Alex%27s%20ROMs#WMx20.6x2e.1
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Alex%27s%20ROMs#WMx20.6x2e.1
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Thanks..... looks like it is still a tad early to flash to this ROM.
meh. If you don't like it, flash back. What do you have to lose?
I did it. Got rid of the dang random hesitation when pressing a button. For that, I'm keeping it, until the next latest and greatest comes.
Sure, there are some issues. But what ROM doesn't have things you'd like to change? So you gotta hit the SR button twice to soft reset. Once you get it set up, its not like you gotta SR all the time. We're beyond 2003SE here....
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We're beyond 2003SE here....
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I agree with you.... but we are also beyond 6.0 as well

Major crash today with WM6.1 and Radio 1.18

Hi,
After using Ranju's WM6.1 ROM with Radio 1.18 I experienced some major problems today.
First I started to having problems with poor reception. Then one call went down and after that, each time I tried to started a new call, the radio would hang and I had to do a reset.
I would get the "Phone not ready" message when I tried to access the settings screen.
I tried reset's, removing the SIM, etc.
I actually thought the radio part was broken.
Then I installed radio 1.15 and everything started to work again.
Downgraded to Jwrightmcps Crossbow ROM Update 2.12.08 WWE now.
What a scare!
So if this happens to you, try to get rid of radio 1.18 first.
Unfortunatlu now my 4 GB HCSD is not recognized...
Cheers,
vma
well, ranju himself recommends radio 1.15 for his roms. i think radio selection is still a voodoo craft . it is probably dependent on many factors, some out of our reach. you should try and stick to the one you like (not too many choices there).
SDHC issue solved on page 11 (?): there is a cab to download...
Well, I do own 2 Universals now (and a BA). I used Jwright's .06 for a long time and was happy with it. Too happy, to update it to .08 for all the trouble it is to get everything as i like it.
It was on my second one, where I tried Ranju's ROM. I was really freaking out... Thought the phone was broken.
To tell the truth, the only thing I did like about WM6.1 was the message "You missed a call"...
Cheers,
vma
Me too had problems with 1.18 and downgraded to 1.15
Everythings fine now with the radiopart.
I never had any big problems with Ranju's ROM,
but now I'm testing the new PDAViet ROM and it's the fastest I've ever
flashed. The only problem I already had with it are some unmotivated
softresets.
Now I'm waiting for Ranju's 19900 version
LifeIsAnUpgrade said:
Me too had problems with 1.18 and downgraded to 1.15
Everythings fine now with the radiopart.
I never had any big problems with Ranju's ROM,
but now I'm testing the new PDAViet ROM and it's the fastest I've ever
flashed. The only problem I already had with it are some unmotivated
softresets.
Now I'm waiting for Ranju's 19900 version
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The previous version of PDAviet generated unexpected reset too.
I changed for Ranju's 7.6 and now very stable (no change of radio 01.18)
The radio version can also depend of the network that you use (European, American...) but I don't kwon which radio version is more appropriated for which country.
For me Ranju's and 01.18 works fine, my SDHC 16 gb too
The strange thing is that Radio 1.18 did work fine for over a week!
It was from one moment to the other that I got this problem. Either the ROM got corrupt or it generated some invalid data.
Very freaky stuff...
Today I did not have any problem with the phone, using Radio 1.15 and Jwright's ROM, so it is definitly not a problem of the phone itself.
I have to add that I was using a cloned SIM during that week, but I have that SIM for a long time and it never gave any trouble (I have made myself two clones, so that I have a total of 3 SIM's: this way I can choose which phone to use, without having to replace the SIM).
Cheers,
vma

can you update just the radio from a stock rom?

I have a ATT Tilt, with original ROM. I downloaded the newest ROM from HTC for the ATT Tilt. Only reason I did this was because I was told it would get rid of the "button/screen press not registering unless you hold/press for a while." Anyways, it seems to have worked. Not 100% trouble free on that front.. anyways...
I didn't want to do any of the cooked ROMs mods yet as I'm willing to wait for the 6.1 official release. BUT I noticed 2x already I lost signal on my T-Mobile service and GPS seems to loose lock easier.
Is there a way for me to just replace the Radio: 1.27.14.09 with something else or even the original radio that I had?
I'm reading the radio FAQ and it mentions that the ROM:AT&T 1.62.502.0 (The one I dloaded) can only use 2 radios, the .09 and .07 radios. I don't see anything on what the .07 radio is or if its any better.
starstreak said:
I have a ATT Tilt, with original ROM. I downloaded the newest ROM from HTC for the ATT Tilt. Only reason I did this was because I was told it would get rid of the "button/screen press not registering unless you hold/press for a while." Anyways, it seems to have worked. Not 100% trouble free on that front.. anyways...
I didn't want to do any of the cooked ROMs mods yet as I'm willing to wait for the 6.1 official release. BUT I noticed 2x already I lost signal on my T-Mobile service and GPS seems to loose lock easier.
Is there a way for me to just replace the Radio: 1.27.14.09 with something else or even the original radio that I had?
I'm reading the radio FAQ and it mentions that the ROM:AT&T 1.62.502.0 (The one I dloaded) can only use 2 radios, the .09 and .07 radios. I don't see anything on what the .07 radio is or if its any better.
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http://www.4shared.com/file/4422815...271407_CustomRUU.html?dirPwdVerified=dc855d4b
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Thanks, that's the thread I'm trying to read/figure out right now. Lots of info. Thanks for the link for the .07.
Update: ok, read the 17pages. Ouch. my brain hurts. It seems GPS lock doesn't improve much and unless I use a cooked rom and goto a 6.1ROM with better radios, I don't think swapping the .07 will help. Does this sound about right?
Also, does Tilt really use agps? Should I disable that? I thought one of the posts said it worked better with it off..
For me, agps never really worked very well on the tilt. Also, igo and some oother gps programs don't work with it.
On a side note, there are some ROMs that would work well for you stability wise. Q-mobile 2 is a super stable 6.0 ROM. 6.1 ROMs have more problems but some of them come pretty close and do offer the newer radios like you mentioned.
The radio in my signature has given me the best gps performance of all that I have tried.

Succesful ROMS and Radio Combinations for BB Connect

I had BB Connect working fine on my Fuze, but seem to have messed something up when changing the radio. I originally had it working with the Stock ROM and Radio and than flashed to NATF's latest ROM (still 6.1) with the stock Radio. That worked fine too. I have since tried 2 radios with no luck. Currently 1.02.25.28 and previously 1.12.25.19 with NATF's ROM and cannot get it working. I still get a PIN, but am stuck on the Activation Screen.
I was hoping people could post what combinations have worked for them. Also, I am curious if I could be missing something simple that could have caused this. Thanks in advance for all who contribute.
I got it working again so I figured I would post my settings.
I am running NATF's 4.6 and the stock Cingular Radio 1.02.25.31.
That seems to be the best radio for BB Connect for me right now. If people could post other experiences, I am sure it would help people out.
This radio sucks, but everthing seems ok. Back to the drawing board tomorrow. If someone has a good combo to share, let me know. If not, i will make this my own personal trial and error thread.

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