Performance of Orbit 2 vs original Orbit.... - Touch Cruise General

Hi,
I have an original orbit and am wondering whether the new processor makes the new phone any faster than the original as I find TomTom to run a tad slow on my existing phone.
Rgds
Gary

garymansell said:
Hi,
I have an original orbit and am wondering whether the new processor makes the new phone any faster than the original as I find TomTom to run a tad slow on my existing phone.
Rgds
Gary
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Orbit 2 is 250% faster than the original Orbit

reyjabs said:
Orbit 2 is 250% faster than the original Orbit
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It shouldn't run slowly on an Orbit 1 you have something set incorrectly, start by looking at Change Preferences/ Enable_Disable POI if you have any selected at all de-select them, use the Warn when near POI function instead as this releases the processor to work on other things - it is a known problem that affects most PDA's running TT software - Mike

Just got my Orbit 2 yesterday, upgrading from a Vario 2 (TyTN/Hermes). And I found that surprisingly the performance of TomTom is pretty much the same between the two devices.
Wish we had the proper video driver... would be so much quicker.

wywywywy said:
Just got my Orbit 2 yesterday, upgrading from a Vario 2 (TyTN/Hermes). And I found that surprisingly the performance of TomTom is pretty much the same between the two devices.
Wish we had the proper video driver... would be so much quicker.
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Same here
(changed from Hermes)

Start up and GPS acquisition seem a lot quicker to me

That is probably down to HTC's QuickGPS (which utilises AGPS) program, instead of the speed of the device.

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Kaiser WM 5 Possible?

Is it possible to port a WM5 ROM to the Kaiser? Apparently its lighter and might work faster on this.
axeman said:
Is it possible to port a WM5 ROM to the Kaiser? Apparently its lighter and might work faster on this.
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:/
but what you are not looking at is the BUGGY RAM (ram leaks)
the ram depletes like crazy even though no processes are running
this problem does not exist with WM6
eg. in my previous device O2 executive (Universal)
running WM5 initial ram 31 mb
after 3 days 12-15 mb so i have to soft reset
same device running wm6 initial ram 28-29 mb
after 3 days 23-24 mb so no soft reset required
besides the WM5 interface looks ugly as s**t
axeman said:
Is it possible to port a WM5 ROM to the Kaiser? Apparently its lighter and might work faster on this.
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WM6 in fact... is not a new software comparing to WM5, it's just a very good Service Pack. What does it mean? WM6 is much better and faster than WM5!!! You must be the only person in this community that want to go back!!!
Strange question indeed... it is pointless, and would only generate regressions on your device :?
I am happy to note that the old problem on TyTNs AKU 3.x WM5 with files vanishing from the microSD card is not solved in TyTN IIs WM6. I was playing MP3 files in PocketPlayer, then paused the player and wanted to resume a few hours later, only to discover that the directory was empty... Pulling out the microSD card and putting it back solved the problem and the files came back again.
This took away some of the nostalgia I was feeling for my old PDA.
axeman said:
Is it possible to port a WM5 ROM to the Kaiser? Apparently its lighter and might work faster on this.
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If you said compare Windows mobile 2003 and say WM5, I might have agreed with you.
But WM6 has *always* run faster and more reliably than WM6 on all windows mobile device I've tried
Wizard user here (looking for upgrade)
I got to disagree out of my personal experience.
I ran WM6 on my slow 200mHz processor and it was remarkably slower than the WM5 i'm now running.
Memory leaks are true though, and I have to reset once a week because the damn thing ran out or ram ... I find this is a small price to pay for the speed i gain.
WM5 vs WM6
athanaso77 said:
WM6 in fact... is not a new software comparing to WM5, it's just a very good Service Pack. What does it mean? WM6 is much better and faster than WM5!!! You must be the only person in this community that want to go back!!!
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Maybe not the only one.
I personally think there are some things about WM6 that are not improvements, e.g. dialpad and inability to replace dialpad with a good big button keyboard. After all, this is still a phone, and good, reliable, easy to use dialpad is important to me.

Touch Vs P3300

This might be a bit long winded but here goes.
I have the use of a P3300 and the touch cruise.
they are both running WM6.
i also have the use of a XDA orbit and soon to have a XDA orbit 2.
The XDA orbit is running WM5 and the orbit 2 should be running WM6.
1. Has any one tries and tested a combo like the above and found any big differences.
2. Is the O2 version's better than the HTC version.
3. is there a tool out there that can solve problems on pda's.
4. is there a tool out there that can fix internal file curroption?
I have compared the 3300 with the polaris. Didn't do any extreme testing, but I noticed that the 3300 is a lot quicker and smoother than the cruise in the simple things like opening the start menu, scrolling through the contacts or on webpages. Only TomTom demo performs equally, both like a slide show.
But I think this is yet another confirmation of the lack of imageon driver support in the polaris.
Don't know about the other Q's you asked.

Orbit 2 vs. Stellar

Hi,
I'm currently using the O2 Orbit (original) phone, and have really enjoyed my time with it. HOwever, I am now due an upgrade
I am debating between the Stellar and the Orbit 2. I don't miss the keyboard on the Orbit (had the Mini IIs prior, which had keyboard of course), but I wouldn't be too depressed to have one. As far as I can see, there's not much to seperate the two phones, but from user experience, which one would you buy, and why?
(or can someone think of any other alternatives?)
A.
Hi,
I found the Kaiser (o2 Stellar) very bulky, that's why I changed. Also fm radio on orbit II, better touch flo experience. Check out the new ppc's from the Barcelona WMC2008. maybe u ll find something worth waiting for. but in any case, i don't think they will be in stock with any operator soon enough for ur upgrade. i d go for the orbit II.
Jackster said:
Hi,
I found the Kaiser (o2 Stellar) very bulky, that's why I changed. Also fm radio on orbit II, better touch flo experience. Check out the new ppc's from the Barcelona WMC2008. maybe u ll find something worth waiting for. but in any case, i don't think they will be in stock with any operator soon enough for ur upgrade. i d go for the orbit II.
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I'm slightly worried about the Polairs' video driver issue... or is this not so much of a problem?
kaiser and polaris suffer from the same driver thing
people report that htc have bulged and will pay qualcom for the driver
they so far been too cheap to pay for
otherwise another possiblity could be other devices comming out using the same chip
like toshiba
Definitely go fot the Polaris, man! I'm tellin' ya
It's slimmer, more solid, and pretty And if you don't miss the keyboard of the Mini S (heh, I also had one, then changed it for a Neo (Prophet) and didn't miss the keyboard ), the Polaris is maybe the best PPC out there.
My opinion - BioTouch is much better than an old touch screen combined with a hw keyboard. And with the number of the input apps out there, it's the ultimate choice.
Tried Opera 9.5 yesterday - amazing. This browser makes your PPC the ultimate mobile internet device and combined with the BioTouch it simply rocks!

New polaris, not that impressed (ex wizard)

Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.
Please read the already posted threads relating to your questions...
These questions have been asked and answered several times before, so please use the search tool.
Stu308 said:
Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.
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Believe me..it could be one of most impressif pocketphone's out there..but the only problem with this device is that HTC didn't do there homework that good and put this device to soon on the market.
But when the new firmware (with drivers) come's online it will be one of the finest pocketphone's out there at the moment.
The only think for us is to pray that HTC will make the firmware with the drivers, otherwise it will go into be books as a slow and bad preforming device 4-ever and HTC will loose a lot of trusty customers!
But like the other also said..it's being sad in a lot off topics now..so lets use the other threads for the complenning
i agree. i bought mine a week ago. the touch cruise and i am not that impress coming from a tmobile mda aka wizard. i still use my wizard. love it but cruise slow. internet is slow. features are wack. the only good thing is the radio but i dnt listen to radio and tomtom navigation. i live in nyc i use the subway so not that usefull to me. htc better come good or its apple for me.
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htc better come good or its apple for me.
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This is exactly what I'm thinking...HTC really messed this wicked phone up....Gonna wait for the Xperia or Samsung i900.
You aren't getting drivers for it. You are getting a software patch that helps fix a few things like scrolling and some basic touch screen functionality, nothing to do with video.
unfortunately, if you want to watch movies you have to convert them yourself and spend the time doing it, then you can have some fun with high quality movies or shows.
i will think twice before I buy my next handset. I don't expect the most amazing device in the world, but I don't like to be mislead in advertising.
Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.
Can someone give me some links to help please? Thanks.
JNGold said:
Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.
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How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.
pistonripper said:
How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.
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we have 2 differents polaris , mine is the all time better pocketpc (I owned all the precedent)
Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????
pistonripper said:
How is your cruise setup?
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Mine is setup like everyone else. I have done all the performance hacks I know of (WM Cache, GlypheCache set to 64K, etc). I have over 25 applications installed.
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
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Coreplayer just released 1.2 which performs much better on the TC. Also, I have encoded many of my vids for PPC viewing since I have owned nothing but WM devices for many years now.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
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Disable the shutter sound, it helps.
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago.
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Welcome to the world of Windows Mobile. However, the inclusion of Touch Flo is probably the most unique WM experience offered by a WM device.
..(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
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Install the HTC Calculator.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
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Aside from the video driver issues (which BTW hasn't bothered me that much), what software do expect HTC to ship with the device? HTC has done a good job integrating TouchFlo and HTC today into WM. It sounds to me like your complaints software-wise are more directed to MS rather than HTC.
Stu308 said:
Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????
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Since both devices are the same performance and feature-wise your only decision is whether you require a physical keyboard on the Tytn II.
pistonripper said:
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
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I would suggest you installing Core Player 1.2.0
Thanks all...going to install Coreplayer 1.2.0....I did the tweaks, glyph and sound on the shutter..no effect really...maybe I've got a dud....warms up too in my hand....
Also if anyone is running the HTC home screen...which one is it ?...there so many to choose from...
Is there one specifically for the Polaris ?...I've seached and found many versions and variations.
but why does it seem as slow as my wizard? I thought the processor was supposed to be much faster? And the scrolling is finnicky to say the least.
i just downloaded coreplayer 1.3.0. whats so special about core player?
it's the player which supports most formats
I have the Orbit 2, and when I first tried using Internet Explorer I was very disappointed with the extremely slow and jerky scroll, if you could call it 'scroll'. Now that I have managed to install SPB Pocket Plus with the 'Smart Scroll' feature enabled, I'm now happy with that aspect. I haven’t tried video on it yet, but my thoughts now are that I do like the device, especially because of its form factor and looks. Before the Orbit 2 I had the SPV M3100 (Hermes), prior to this I had the SPV C500, and prior to that I had the original windows Smartphone, the Orange SPV.
For me, the Orbit is a step in the right direction, but I will be a little disappointed if video is unusable.
Overall I am happy with my Cruise (I have gotten a sim-free version). Apparently a number of people complain about speed, and I have noticed that this is also related to owners of Cruise who are on the O2 network. My guess is O2 loaded their version with useless software which reduces performance.
Regarding the video issue, I user Coreplayer 1.2 (coreplayer is a must), I encode my videos in QVGA resolution and they seem fine to me. True, you won't be able to take an existing DVD quality rip and expect Cruise to show it well, even in Coreplayer.
Performance-wise, Cruise could probably do a little better given its specs, but overall, I still think it is a very good and practival device.
Hopefully video issue will be addressed, I am not 100% confident it will be fully resolved though. Though the device works fine for me, it is quite upsetting to know that its hardware is not fully utilised...
As my closing statement have a look at the text below, from
gizmodo. com/gadgets/what.s-wrong-with-windows-mobile/whats-wrong-with-windows-mobile-and-how-wm7-and-wm8-are-going-to-fix-it-333536.php
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Microsoft is working to fix the whole WM platform. Here's how:
Even when using a super sluggish WinMo phone, it's less an example of a manufacturer not meeting the minimum requirements for RAM, ROM and CPU power, and more a problem of software which has not been optimized to run on it. This is often the service provider's fault. For example, two phones with the same 400MHz processor can be totally different depending on how much optimization the provider decides to do. When you're using a slow phone, blame the provider.
On the same token, the Windows Mobile OS team actually does set a minimum hardware requirement for the "core" features of the OS to make sure the user experience is a good one, but the minimum-requirement bar may be set too low. When companies add apps on top of the core, things start to wobble. Product manager Derek Snyder told me that Microsoft will raise the bar for minimum requirements to a level where phones can be loaded with more software without slowing down the most basic of tasks (e.g. sliding open the AT&T Tilt from portrait to landscape mode).
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HTC Touch Cruise very very slow to start up

hi guys, i have an htc touch cruise, its about 15 months old now. Its totally standard and i have not tried upgrading it, however it has become really really slow to start up lately. This morning i still could not phone anyone after 5 minutes, and it froze once! is there anything i can do to speed this up? i have an 8gb memory card in it with about 4gb of music, would this affect it? cheers for any help!
i forgot to add thats it actually an O2 Orbit II branded variant
What's your memory status? How much free device memory you have?
Maybe it's time to uninstall some software, or even hard reset device - remember, it's Windows...
see this is what i am thinking, fecking windows! this is my first XDA, so i just assumed, like my laptop, it will need re-installing once a year!!!! ha ha!
i might just take the opportunity to upgrade to wm6.1, good idea?!
If your Polaris is on 6.0 Pro, I don't suggest upgrade...
Bodisson said:
If your Polaris is on 6.0 Pro, I don't suggest upgrade...
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Why on earth not? Just curious what your position is.
Usually the newer 6.1/6.5 OS will is a lot more improved that the outdated 6.0. My vote definitely goes for upgrading your phone, it'll fix all your problems.(unless its a hardware issue)
My points are all written in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411883&highlight=Bodisson&page=13
In short:
- iGo 2006 stopped working
- problems syncing with more than one PC
- slower
- more battery consumption
There's more, but these 4 are my main reasons.

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