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Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
WM6.0...
The new look and a lot faster device...
Is there any feature that won't be available with WM6, that did work fine in WM5?
Thanks,
vma
Video call isn't working yet.
Rolud said:
The new look and a lot faster device...
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The way I see it, WM6 may or may not work for you and may or may not do it for you. Try it. You can always go back to WM5. Most people don't.....
Well .... the simple answer is that I did a lot of searching and reading, and finally tried it out for myself.
I asked this very question a while ago right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1130569&postcount=88
And came to the follwowing conclusion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1155497&postcount=89
In the conclusion, the thing about the Bluetooth Stack / Voice Command - it was actually Voice Command that was the problem and this issue was fixed in Jrwightmcps' 2.02.00 WWE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297256
Crossbow ONLY!
Tell you the truth... i see the new WM6 is better eye-catching GUI not to mention the enhancement in the functionality and other usability such as email related functions. I know that MS wont just upgrade for no obvious reason nor for desktop OS compatibility.
Yet i reckon i wont -never- go back to magento! Crossbow ONLY!
@nvatvani:
Indeed your posts where the only ones I read, that contained some usefull info about the subject.
No offense to all the other members of course!
I was simply wondering about what to do when my MDA Pro arrives: replace the German firmware with a WWE WM5 one or go straight ahead to WM6 without even looking at WM5.
Also, I had some problems with my Blue Angel, when I tried WM5 on it: it may have been a coincidence, but one day after the upgrade the screen went mad and totally messed up. Only 1 Hardreset in about 100 tries would bring it back to normal for some period of time and even reflashing it with WM5 or 2003SE would not make it work normal again. The screen would get messed up suddenly for no particular reason. At the end I had to send it in for repair, which was actually a good thing, as I complained about the loose stylo and bad working hardkeys, all within warranty. I got a new key-pcb, backside and they reflashed the device with 2003SE. I posted this issue in the BA forum, but got no usefull hint. This means I am a little scared of upgrading to unofficial releases.
Other than that, I have no problems with flashing, as I do that on my other hobby (satellite receivers) frequently, including JTAG-operations for repairing bricked devices. The same applies to games consoles. (Note: I do not sell or benefit commercially from that activity and my goal is not to get illegal software or TV - not that you guy's get the wrong idea about me).
Anyway, thanks for your replies!
Cheers,
vma
What Windows Mobile 5.0 AKU 2.0 has and Windows Mobile 6 (the cooked ones, having tried them all) doesn't have, according to my experiences:
1. Videocalling - at least not a proper one
2. Bluetooth Dial Up Networking (the DUN profile)
3. Wireless Modem (yet some WM6 ROM's have it, although without shortcut in the start menu)
4. Cyberon Voice Dial by default (some WM6 ROM's have it by default, others will need a 500kB CAB to activate it)
The reason why I went back to "good old" WM5 is mainly the reliability. Ok, the OS may be a bit slower here and there, but it has all the functionality (e.g. videocalls and Bluetooth DUN), and NEVER hangs. It just always works and that's what I desperately need right now.
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The things Windows Mobile 6 has for me that 5.0 hasn't which I miss the most:
1. High resolution browsing in the normal Internet Explorer (I don't want to use alternatives)
2. HTML email support
3. The impressive speed of the OS
Applications like WM6's Windows Live and the superb Remote Desktop Client are also available for WM5, so I don't need to miss those, otherwise I sure would, and then I might have sticked with WM6.
The new sounds and GUI are great, but I don't really miss them, since that's not a true functional thing.
Having WM5 up and running again, without freezes and memory leaking and with full HTC Universal functionality, is enough for me to be happy with it and to stick with it. If there ever will be a ROM that actually ADDS Windows Mobile 6 on top of all of this (without a single registry tweak or CAB fix needed), then it's the time for me to upgrade again.
If such a ROM will ever see the daylight, since it won't be officially available for the Universal, I don't know. I think the HTC X7500 (Athena) will be there sooner (April 2007 over here), and that one will have a official WM6 upgrade for sure. That'll be my next one, so until then: WM5 for my Universal!
So far for my opinion.
why do I use WM6
vma said:
Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
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To be honest, I used them all and later delteted them after 5 2 hours. They leak a lot, ram is at minimum and useless third party applications, and a lot fo thing sodn't really work or missing (I just want a vanill aone without 3rd party applications).
Except for one rom, Darkforce, it is fast and furious, and so far I have using it for two days; battery usage is good, and no leaks. However, no video calling, and no way to set com ports for bluetooth devices. any1 has this problem?
However, common to all ROMS, no video calling, old calculator, speed dial messed up (some work and some don't), wireless connection bubble missing (yes you can install a cab but I don't want to do that).
<Mind you, contrary to other reports, I never had any freezes with any rom.
The thing that attracts me is HTML in email, High resolution mode in explorer, better remote desktop connectivity.
So I thhink I am sticking with DarkForce ROM, so far so good.
Thx
I replace my Treo 750 with a AT&T Tilt, and I really REALLY miss the threaded Chat of my palm
I tried Textr and it does not work, I install it, and just tells me that the trial expired. I will not pay for a program that in 10 seconds fails!!
I also tried PocketCM and it seems to also lack stability.
Ideas, solutions.. can I get Treo Chat program on my Tilt?!
thanks
e..b
IMSMS / PocketCM
Isn't IMSMS something for that ?
maybe it's something you're searching for....
I'm seeing lots of reports of leaked WM6.1 for various HTC devices. Since the Treo is an HTC device at heart, has anyone heard/seen any signs of a WM6.1 ROM for the Treo 750? I suspect we may never see an official 6.1 ROM for the 750 from Palm or the operators...it's already been through a WM5->WM6 upgrade in its lifetime and that's more than most devices.
Just take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365873
Thanks. That's a little too generic at this point!
Not really. I have Medianet working, (don't have video service so cannnot test), and all of the AT&T links are removed. The only downside I see so far is no MMS. All of the Palm customizations are still functioning, except the SMS which is threaded by outlook automatically now. Plus its super fast!
I must advise you read directions fully though. If you're not the type to play with your phones firmware/bootloaders/etc then you might want to wait a bit before jumping into this stuff.
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Not really. I have Medianet working, (don't have video service so cannnot test), and all of the AT&T links are removed. The only downside I see so far is no MMS. All of the Palm customizations are still functioning, except the SMS which is threaded by outlook automatically now. Plus its super fast!
I must advise you read directions fully though. If you're not the type to play with your phones firmware/bootloaders/etc then you might want to wait a bit before jumping into this stuff.
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Oh I thought the threaded SMS wasn't there at all. Didn't realize WM6.1 does threaded SMS all by itself. So what do you really love / can't live without in 6.1?
for those too scared to flash to 6.1 (or have other reasons not to), here is a very intriguing method of getting the palm threaded sms to work quite well, not covering up the input area.
may work for wm5, dont use it myself.
good luck.
link: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17410
Which WM 6.1 rom does have the best perfomance and runs without errors ?
Pls give your opinions....
Thanks
myrin
peter7 said:
Which WM 6.1 rom does have the best perfomance and runs without errors ?
Pls give your opinions....
Thanks
myrin
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I guess searching would be out of the question. Do know how many times this has been asked? Come on now. With 124 post I would think you would know that or at least do a search first.
...you are generally right but the search doesn`t brings up a real result !
A performance comparison (benchmark) for WM 6 has given a lot of evidence but on 6.1 I didn`t find it ...
What works best for you ?
Since you donate to the forum, I guess people will be nicer to you. There is really no clear answer to this since the cleaner roms have better speeds, but less functionality. The ones bulky with a lot of apps tend to be slower, but they become like swiss army knives. There are lots of extra tweaks you can do such as change page pool or change cache sizes to improve performance. With less errors? All the roms have few incompatabilities with certain softwares such as TCPMP, IM+, and many others. There are trade offs from using certain roms and its all in your preference in what you want (buggy rom with speed or lots of apps, but slow). Dutty's has been clear favorite, but many cooks out there make roms just as good.
thomassster - I`m very happy with Quentin`s but it is "only" a WM 6.0 - would you say it is worth the effort to change to a WM 6.1 ?
peter
hello peter the only big differences that i found are the thredded sms and some minor changes regarding wifi managing found in settings - connections (faster turning on and off...) regarding speed, i find wm 6.0 slight faster. so, my opinion is you could give wm 6.1 a go.
So although WM 6 ist faster you prefer 6.1 ???
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So although WM 6 ist faster you prefer 6.1 ???
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yes, i find it more functional. try dutty's wm6.1s they simply rock! you won't be dissapointed
If you read some of the WM6.1 threads, the only addition is newer radios, threaded SMS, and very minor options added. I won't be able to say if it's worth upgrading since threaded SMS is a big improvement, but I can't seem to find a way to backup my SMS the way I want. Instead of chat style, PIM backup restores the sent, and then mine.
There's not too many improvements, but it wouldn't be bad experimenting. I can't determine whether flashing will be best for you, but sometimes you gotta do things to find out whats all the fuss about. Most of the cooks are cooking up the newest roms, which happens to be WM6.1 so you might as well get use to what is in a WM6.1 rom.
OK understand...which progs do not run with Dutty`s ?
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If you read some of the WM6.1 threads, the only addition is newer radios, threaded SMS, and very minor options added. I won't be able to say if it's worth upgrading since threaded SMS is a big improvement, but I can't seem to find a way to backup my SMS the way I want. Instead of chat style, PIM backup restores the sent, and then mine.
There's not too many improvements, but it wouldn't be bad experimenting. I can't determine whether flashing will be best for you, but sometimes you gotta do things to find out whats all the fuss about.
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yup, but the threaded sms can be disabled via registry anyway, i have the same problem when backuping my sms.
like all wm 6.1's i have sometimes problems when trying to run igo or miomap. but with the homeplugin partially disabled ( all tabs except the clock) and a proper radio it works fine! i haven't tried yet skype to see if it works. but other programs work great. i have installed on my kaiser resco explorer, ab button plus, coreplayer.. etc and all work fine..
peter7 said:
OK understand...which progs do not run with Dutty`s ?
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That specific question really belongs in the Rom thread.
This thread has no further usefulness so it is closed.