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Slow camera

Hi,
My camera is very very slow. The quality seems good but when filming and moving the phone everything is very blurry. Is this normal / common issue?
If I take a picture of something it has to be absolutely still otherwise the picture is blurred.
When I direct it to a wall which is 1 color the camera if very fast, but when I move it to a colored area with lights etc, it flickers 1 time and then it goes very slow, as if some filter is applied in areas which are lighter.

I get this also and upgrading the radio has not solved the problem.
I've noticed that it seems to be fast in daylight?
Theres a camera trick in the forums - kaiser I think about switching off the phone (sleep mode by pressing the power button) whilst the camera is on and switching it back on again improving the speed but I have not been able to make it work.

The Polaris camera is very good in daylight conditions! If you try to take pictures in low light conditions the fps will drop so that it seems like it is very slow.
Try this little trick for videos or pictures in low light conditions with max fps:
1. Activate camera with camera button
2. Put your finger on the camera lens and hold it there
3. Turn of Screen / Put Polaris into sleep mode and wait 5 - 8 seconds
4. Activate Polaris screen again with power button
5. Now you can take pictures / videos with max fps!
But be aware of the fact, that with this little trick the iso lightening won't work anymore and the pictures will be darker and have lower quality!
After using the camera in better light conditions, everything will be as before the trick!

WOW! and that actually DID work
thanks for tip friend, I can live with the lower quality if I can get a decent video recording... The ones I've done before were rubbish. I would have been embarassed to show them to anyone... except maybe at a 60's convention..the blurryness was a little psychadelic!

The trick seems to work! Isn't there a way to modify the rom to always disable the light filter?
The other front camera is always working very fast, it's just the one on the back.
Thanks!

Maybe UDK might build it into his v9 release? (hint, hint!)

As far as i know there is no chance to tweak some software or a rom so that the problom won't occur again. When starting the camera it's hardware will always activate the iso lightning and therefore there will be those fps drops in low light conditions.
It has something to do with the lack of hardware drivers which could keep high fps rates also in low light conditions..... BUT i'm not sure because of the diamond!
If you compare it with the diamond, there ARE some video drivers but the performance of the camera is nearly the SAME as on Polaris.... in some situations even worse and less fps rates!

ZaPP187 said:
As far as i know there is no chance to tweak
If you compare it with the diamond, there ARE some video drivers but the performance of the camera is nearly the SAME as on Polaris.... in some situations even worse and less fps rates!
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htc phone has the slow camera problem all the time ,and will last too its dieth
so change your htc for samung or nokia their cameras are better than htc

ZaPP187 said:
It has something to do with the lack of hardware drivers which could keep high fps rates also in low light conditions.....
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It has absolutely nothing to do with drivers. The phone's night mode isn't simply adjusting the ISO. The phone is allowing more light into the sensor, thus keeping the shutter open longer. Doing so blurs the picture if you move around. Any phone with a night mode does the same thing. In fact any digitial camera with a nightmode will also do this.

ZaPP187 said:
The Polaris camera is very good in daylight conditions! If you try to take pictures in low light conditions the fps will drop so that it seems like it is very slow.
Try this little trick for videos or pictures in low light conditions with max fps:
1. Activate camera with camera button
2. Put your finger on the camera lens and hold it there
3. Turn of Screen / Put Polaris into sleep mode and wait 5 - 8 seconds
4. Activate Polaris screen again with power button
5. Now you can take pictures / videos with max fps!
But be aware of the fact, that with this little trick the iso lightening won't work anymore and the pictures will be darker and have lower quality!
After using the camera in better light conditions, everything will be as before the trick!
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OMG, it works! thx a lot!
Can I ask how to modify this trick via a .reg file?

As said above, this cannot be done. You'll have to do it manually each time.

sonus said:
It has absolutely nothing to do with drivers. The phone's night mode isn't simply adjusting the ISO. The phone is allowing more light into the sensor, thus keeping the shutter open longer. Doing so blurs the picture if you move around. Any phone with a night mode does the same thing. In fact any digitial camera with a nightmode will also do this.
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Ok, but how about setting a value for nightmode, so it wont be used in mediocre lit areas thus increasing performance?(maybe to finally allow to make some nice, steady pictures) I think HTC overdid it a little.
And how can you explain this trick, fooling phone that it's complete darkness, so it decides to turn nightmode off? Kinda weird.
Also what LightSensorHz(50) registry value does?
\HKLM\Software\Drivers\Camera\Property

Camera Refresh

Hi! well, I know that I'm not the only one that complains about the refresh rate of the camera, in this post (spanish by the way) http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?p=121842&posted=1#post121842
a member found a temporary "solution"
serching the registry I found a key that shows me the FPS of the camera
in normal state the camera gives a poor 2.3 fps, after the "trick" I get 19.2 BUT the luminicence is reduced drasticaly
the "solution"
turn on the camera
cover all the CMOS sensor (until get all the screen black)
press the standby button
uncover the sensor
enable the phone pressing again the standby button
you will notice that now the image refresh is grate !!! but it's too dark
so, I was thinking that there must be some how to manually adjust the level of luminicence of the CMOS, and avoid the operating system to do a post prossesing rendering or whatever the system does.
any idea?
I got the 3d driver installed by the way.

Camera trick?

When I had the tilt, I could easily speed up frames per second on the camera by turning the unit off, covering the lens, turning it back on and waiting a few seconds (AND EVENTUALLY USED A CAB FIX). This would allow me to use the camera/video in low light conditions with little lag. Is there a similar fix for the Fuze?
Also, I've been asking, people have been looking...is there a VGA full screen dialer available? Anywhere?

I would be interested in that to...

I don't see the horrible lag on my fuze, that I had on the tilt.

ya but when taking a video it drags a little when things move semi-fast... kinda blurrs and speeding up the Fps would probably help that

specially on low light conditions.

LED camera light work like an actual camera flash?

I used to have a BB curve that also had a camera LED but it worked like a flash when I hit the button to take the picture the LED would automatically flash to take the pic..it's annoying that on my Fuze I have to manually turn on/off the led light..I was wondering if there's some software or a patch that will make the camera LED behave in this manner?

no. cannot.

it's trying to replace sun light with a match
a led is many times weaker then a real flash
which would temp blind you if it was on all the time
and you looked into it
where a led is more like whats your computer, tv, dvdplayer or the likes
got just a bit stronger but not more then 80 lumen
where a real flash can have about 5000 lumen
so sure one can program the led "flash" to turn on and close like a real
flash does but it would give no effect

euklid said:
I used to have a BB curve that also had a camera LED but it worked like a flash when I hit the button to take the picture the LED would automatically flash to take the pic..it's annoying that on my Fuze I have to manually turn on/off the led light..I was wondering if there's some software or a patch that will make the camera LED behave in this manner?
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euklid, I am with you. My nokia use to do that. It is a horrible design and pain to have to turn the light on each time to use it. It is the same type of light set up in my nokia as on the fuze, just that nokia knew how to use it properly. It is funny with all the mods available for the Fuze, I would have thought that would have been the first thing somebody changed. And, I thought I was the only person this aggrevated the sh!t out of.....

Rudegar said:
it's trying to replace sun light with a match
a led is many times weaker then a real flash
which would temp blind you if it was on all the time
and you looked into it
where a led is more like whats your computer, tv, dvdplayer or the likes
got just a bit stronger but not more then 80 lumen
where a real flash can have about 5000 lumen
so sure one can program the led "flash" to turn on and close like a real
flash does but it would give no effect
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I don't want it as bright as a real flash of course..but the Blackberry curve has an LED also and it works well as a "flash"..the brightness of the LED the Fuze has now when u take the picture is fine for most cases, I've tested taking a few pics in a dark room and they come out decent..my point is that why is there no auto setting..so the LED goes from OFF to its max brightness as soon as you press the button to take the picture and then shut off automatically after pic is taken..a feature that the BB curve and some other phones have..I wish someone would make a mod to the camera software to do this..couldn't you use the Fuze's light sensor to determine if a flash is needed or not..

I suppose it would be possible but don't really see how one could do it with the existing software without having the source-code people would have to trail and error using a sex editor
one thing is to use a hex editor to alter stuff already in the code but to add new stuff like tieing the led to the capture itself not sure how much work it would be to change the cam app sounds like a great deal
about using the light sensor then sure but could be misleading as
the light sensor is facing the opposite direction

Any news on this? Has anyone tried to write a patch or program? Any reg hacks? I'm desperate!

No use for it.
As said before by one of us....
A real camera have better sync when taking a shot and opening flash.
Think. Our phones have a delay that is not controlled and varies depending on the auto focus and light condition, that is why they set it to be on before taking the shot.
Maybe we will see a complete PPC from HTC soon, today already exist the technology to have more than 5 MP camera with a decent flash, maybe the TouchPro 3 will have it, that is why I will stick with my Fuze unless I have to forcefully buy a new device like the TP2 in order to deduct it from my Taxes. Lets see.

Hi:
Since it is not possible for the light to flash automatically, is there any way to set it to always on (while in camera mode of course), so it does not have to be turned on each time I use the camera (I pretty much use it while out with friends in the evening, so it's pretty much always dark)?
Thanks!

Problem with that.
cincy1020 said:
Hi:
Since it is not possible for the light to flash automatically, is there any way to set it to always on (while in camera mode of course), so it does not have to be turned on each time I use the camera (I pretty much use it while out with friends in the evening, so it's pretty much always dark)?
Thanks!
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As far as I know.... the reason that is not set to always on is because you may damage the LED if you keep it on for a long time or X-period of time, but there is an application(hTorch) that lets you use the LED as a Flashlight, I already try to have both the camera and hTorch open at the same time and the camera failed to open. Any way when you use hTorch for too long the light start flickering.

udgn said:
As far as I know.... the reason that is not set to always on is because you may damage the LED if you keep it on for a long time or X-period of time, but there is an application(hTorch) that lets you use the LED as a Flashlight, I already try to have both the camera and hTorch open at the same time and the camera failed to open. Any way when you use hTorch for too long the light start flickering.
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Oh, I think I did not explain myself correctly. I don't want the light ALWAYS on. And, I do use Htorch for when I need a flashlight. What I guess I should have said is in camera mode, there is a setting to turn on the light. Is there a way for this to be activated every time the camera is opened? Not as a flash per say, just as the default setting for the light?
Thanks!

Blown out low light post processing

I received my Note20Ultra today and absolutely love it. However, theres this small quirk the camera post processing keeps wanting to adjust after taking a picture in very low light.
I attached a screen recording of the instance which you can view to see for yourselves.
I apologize for my immigrant ass music lol I didnt realize it was capturing mic sounds too ?
I guess I can't attach a video but I uploaded it to Samsung link share so heres the link for that
https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/zS2NInk4tIVK
So I wanted to take a pic of the cruise control buttons in focus but with the gauges having a really nice natural bokeh to them.
But right after taking the picture I'll quickly go to view it and actually like what I see, but theres a little circle at the bottom spinning like its loading something.
Once done loading the picture turns to absolute garbage.
I tried turning scene optimizer off but that didnt do anything, turning HDR off helped a little but not much.
Its a weird shot I know but my Note 10+ does it just fine.

For comparison this is the same type of shot I took with my Note10+
Love that the shadows stayed pitch black, even while moving.

redline06 said:
I received my Note20Ultra today and absolutely love it. However, theres this small quirk the camera post processing keeps wanting to adjust after taking a picture in very low light.
I attached a screen recording of the instance which you can view to see for yourselves.
I apologize for my immigrant ass music lol I didnt realize it was capturing mic sounds too
I guess I can't attach a video but I uploaded it to Samsung link share so heres the link for that
https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/zS2NInk4tIVK
So I wanted to take a pic of the cruise control buttons in focus but with the gauges having a really nice natural bokeh to them.
But right after taking the picture I'll quickly go to view it and actually like what I see, but theres a little circle at the bottom spinning like its loading something.
Once done loading the picture turns to absolute garbage.
I tried turning scene optimizer off but that didnt do anything, turning HDR off helped a little but not much.
Its a weird shot I know but my Note 10+ does it just fine.
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I have that song stuck in my head now, even though I have no clue what the lyrics are about!
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If I'm not wrong, for taking a good enough picture in low light you have to keep the shutter of the camera open for more time, to be able to capture more light.
It's a long exposure.
What you see "loading something" is the actual time it keeps the shutter open.
During its process you have to be still until it finishes or it will result a blurry picture.

Nastrahl said:
If I'm not wrong, for taking a good enough picture in low light you have to keep the shutter of the camera open for more time, to be able to capture more light.
It's a long exposure.
What you see "loading something" is the actual time it keeps the shutter open.
During its process you have to be still until it finishes or it will result a blurry picture.
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You are correct in the fact that a camera needs extended shutter time to take in more light for low light but thats not what I was referring to here.
I was talking about the loading circle AFTER the picture was taken, the one where Im viewing the photo and it suddenly changes from a nice shot to an over exposed mess lol

The night mode carries over from the S20 Ultra. Hate it when I have a decent capture and post adds weird chroma and focusing artifacts. I was hoping this would be fixed but nope. It's even more pronounced because you're coming from a Note10+...
For best results in those scenarios is to use pro mode, adjust your ISO to the lowest possible where the shutter speed still allows for reasonable lack of motion blur. If everything is rock solid (tripod and stationary subject), you can get some nice shots @50ISO and whatever shutter speed is required for decent exposure.

cpufrost said:
The night mode carries over from the S20 Ultra. Hate it when I have a decent capture and post adds weird chroma and focusing artifacts. I was hoping this would be fixed but nope. It's even more pronounced because you're coming from a Note10+...
For best results in those scenarios is to use pro mode, adjust your ISO to the lowest possible where the shutter speed still allows for reasonable lack of motion blur. If everything is rock solid (tripod and stationary subject), you can get some nice shots @50ISO and whatever shutter speed is required for decent exposure.
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Looking at the data of the photo it does look like it jacked the ISO up to 1600 which is ridiculous lol
Appreciate the input, looks like PRO mode for weird shots like this is the go to feature.
Other than this little scenario this camera is amazing, not saying the Note10+ is bad by any means because it has been my favorite camera to shoot with, up until now.