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how to totally hard reset himalaya wm2005

after i installed the wm2005 from this treath http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=57203 op my himalaya,
i was getting stuck on a totally hardreset.
what i mean is that i installed an alternative bootscreen, but if i press all buttons, to hardreset, i get the kitl thing and those two other functions, but when i finish these settings like no, yes, yes, and reset after i pressed the d-pad, it still boots with the new bootscreen i placed.
also i dont know what to do with the extended rom, when visable.
help is much appreciated

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Himalaya_2005
it's in the FAQ

been there, done that, but nevertheless i still see my own installed bootscreens after hardreset.
but i guess the only way to get rid of it all is to downgrade to wm2003se and then update again.

read this q ?
" Gonna go MAD,--MAGNETO BOOT SCREENS SIMPLY WONT CHANGE????"

Help with a "Bricked" Tilt!

Any Help Appreciated. Anyone ever seen this type of "Brick"?
After flashing a new ROM (Tilt XDA-Live v1.0 - fully flashed to 100% and said finished), the device won't boot. It just gets stuck in an endless loop. It trys to boot, shows the AT&T screen, then reboots/resets back to the beginning before getting to the Windows mobile screen.
The only way to get it to stop the loop is to pull out the battery. Put the battery back in and power on and you get the loop again.
I have loaded HARD SPL (1.0.OliPof).
I can get into Bootloader mode by pressing power/camera then reset.
In this mode, I can get it to reflash the ROM (and even other ROMS) but it still ends up in the same loop.
I have tried flashing the Official ATT WWE ROM from this thread but it still loops at boot.
I did the "original/problematic" flash using Vista. Could that be the issue? I have done subsequent "recovery" flashing using XP to no avail.
I have flashed several ROMs to my Tilt in the past (Mostly Dutty ROMs).
I had a Hermes before and flashed that a million times no issue so I'm not a complete noob.
Any ideas? I'm stuck with a brick!
Thanks in advance.

I'm in the same boat. I've flashed over and over (with different ROMs) and am still stuck. But I did every flash from MicroSD card. Did you get any help?

No input yet.
What ROM did you flash that started the problem for you?

dutty's touchflo rom beta for the tilt. i was on dutty's hybrid rom version 3. after flashing the OEM at&t ROM, i'm out of ideas. stay in touch if you find a fix. i'll keep searching.
- J

Bump...
Anyone else seen the issue with a Tilt stuck in a "boot loop" after flashing (see first post)?
Paypal reward for anyone who helps me recover - otherwise I'm going to have to go buy another Tilt (which I could live with but worse yet, I may be stuck with the stock ROM because I'm too gunshy to go back to my flashing ways)

Tried all day to find a fix. Think I made things worse. Read up on some threads using the mtty tool and ran a command (task 2a) that cleared the flash. But now it doesn't even boot to a splash screen, and I can't get back to bootloader mode.

This might sound a bit stupid, but I have taken note that my device upon flashing the new at&t rom actually held some of the information, you would think that a hard reset is performed after a rom flash, but that just wasn't how it worked out for me, anyway I had a radio that wouldn't come up, but would after a hard reset, this was directly after flashing my tilt...
?Glitch

Glitch,
Yeah, I have heard in several places that you need to hard reset after a flash to clear out all the settings from the old ROM. Seems odd since you just overwrote ROM - I think of it as a format (HDD mindset) but I guess it's not a clean format.
Jerich007,
Sorry to hear you went backwards. I stopped flashing my Tilt for the same reason - worried about getting farther in the hole without some expert advice. My next step was to try the MTTY tool just as you noted. Guess I'll go that route as a last resort. If it's any consolation, I seem to remember reading about plenty of people recovering from a "brick" that won’t go into bootloader mode.
Hopefully someone trolling the waters will see this thread and take up the offer for a Cash Reward (Paypal) for help recovering this Brick!

ill put up some paypal $$ for a fix as well. i'm at the end of my rope on this one. i'm subscribed to some other threads so hopefully we'll get some feedback.

It is not so serious as you think! Try the following way:
1- Download the original rom from AT&T (the 1st rom was installed on your device)
2- Turn your bricked Tilt to bootloader ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Resets )
3- Start flashing your Tilt with the above AT&T rom.
Evething should be OK after that! (but your device need to be installed Hard-SSPL before!!!)

try...
try this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755
and maybe these
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334693&highlight=how+to+unbrick
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344402&highlight=how+to+unbrick
don't forget that some of this info isn't for the tilt...
good luck, and be careful

This ROM solved my issues
try this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327482
and DEFINETLY download the ROM, flash it. Once it's flashed,then ya can reflash any ROM ya want. Get the newest stock ROM from the sticky and reflash it (if ya want the ATT ROM)
That will fix it.
(I reflashed Tilt XDA-Live v 1.0, and it's working GREAT.)
I did the same thing to my Tilt.
That ROM saved me.
Alemaker

Problem is I can't get to a bootloader screen now. I press Camera+Power+reset, but all that happens is the green LED goes off then on, and then the screen is blank. Anyone know any other tricks? I think I may have erased my bootloader using mtty command 'task 2a'.

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Hate to say it, but if after hours of searching on the forum you can't find an answer, i'd pm a pro like pof. I don't know if that will work, but their advice is the only thing i'd listen to.
Don't forget to give a lot of detail and maybe mention what you've tried.

Thanks. I've already PM'd pof and olipro. Hopefully they can come up with something.

jerich007 said:
Problem is I can't get to a bootloader screen now. I press Camera+Power+reset, but all that happens is the green LED goes off then on, and then the screen is blank. Anyone know any other tricks? I think I may have erased my bootloader using mtty command 'task 2a'.
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****, I should have replied after someone posted all those links to Hermes unbrick procedures, to never do a task 2a from hardSPL. It reformats entire flash including SPL and the problem with hardSPL is that you can't flash another SPL, even if you would have tried before rebooting
Anyhow, your only chances to unbrick your device are to try to enter radio bootloader (there is a radio bootloader running on the mARM (ARM9)) and then to flash it. However, only service centres have such flashx utilities I'm afraid. Furthermore I'm not sure if radio bootloader can be entered directly, usually you can enter it via the normal CE SPL. You can try to first connect USB and then press reset with the stylus while holding the Voicecmd key. If you are in XP, then three new devices should be found (composite USB, a modem and a diagnostics port). Download the Motorola "Q" usb drivers, these will work just fine. In this mode you will have to authenticate to the radio bootloader before you can start entering commands. We'll get to that if you manage to connect. Your other chance to unbrick is via JTAG. I know the kaiser has JTAG points scattered on PCB.

Ok, thanks, I'll search for those drivers and let you know. By Voicecmd key do you mean the push-to-talk key along the side or the talk key with the green phoneset icon?

The top button at the left hand side

Ok here's what happens:
1. downloaded Motorola USB drivers (32-bit) from their site, installed and rebooted.
2. plugged in Tilt via usb cable, 'found new Hardware wizard' starts.
3. clicked next to auto-search for drivers, but the wizard fails with 'cannot install this hardware' message. I have 3 yellow question marks in Device Manager for 'Data Interface' devices.
4. held down Push-to-talk button and hit soft reset. No change, no leds are lit, screen is off.
Did I grab the right drivers?

Not bad at all. Apparently your phone is in Qualcomm DIAG mode, probably as a consequence of task 2a Now you can forget about rebooting with Voicecmd pressed.
Either you've got the wrong drivers or you don't install them in the correct way. Go in device manager, right click one of the 3 and update driver, then 'install from a list or specific location (Advanced)', then check 'Include this location in search' and enter the driver path. I'll take a quick look if I can find the drivers for you, I vaguely remember they were on mobile-files dot com.
EDIT: found the drivers, attached. The VID and PID of the found usb devices should be VID_05C6&PID_6000. Take a look in the device's advanced tab in device manager.
PS: Although diagnostics mode sounds great, I haven't yet found a way to flash the device. Perhaps it works with that Hermes radio flasher MaUpgrade_NoID.exe
Guys with a working SPL can enter radio bootloader DIAG mode via "rtask b", exit MTTY and install drivers. It would be great to know if someone has a htc/qualcomm radio flash utility (perhaps MaUpgrade_NoID.exe is what you need)

Qtek 9100 Problems.

Hello, i've recently bought an qtek 9100 Phone, with SNE on it.
The phone worked great until i did run a program that were installed on the phone, after i started the program the phone screen went white, and i had to remove the battery. When i turned on the phone agian, the SNE screen appeared and the phone seemed to start normally; though when it went to the: Touch! No Evil text, it wouldn't go any futher and it still won't
Is there any way to format the phone? or what can i do?
I've already tried both of the reset things without success.
Thanks
EDIT:
I think this may be the wrong section, so sorry.

yes its the wrong section, but you can check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=289
there are steps to FLASH another rom to it,
but if what you want is only FORMAT the phone, go to settings, and then to System. in there you can find something named "Clear Storage" , open it and follow what it says onscreen =)

Flashed with new ROM by mistake

Hi,
and this is not the right way to start a thread in a new forum
a few days ago i bought a used TytnII with english ROM and last night I decided to organize my phone with tools and programms and then a bad thing happened....
I accidentally flashed a ROM in my phone, the file was marked HTC_TYTNII_UPDATES. The file was installed without giving any warning about ROM or non-compatibility issues. After rebooting i get a message that i used illegal ROM and a DeviceLocked message. and the phone reboots.
Any hope to bring it back to normal?
Stergios

Was it a cab file you installed?
Or did you run the file from your computer while your phone was connected through activesync?

StergiosKLM said:
I accidentally flashed a ROM in my phone, the file was marked HTC_TYTNII_UPDATES. The file was installed without giving any warning about ROM or non-compatibility issues. After rebooting i get a message that i used illegal ROM and a DeviceLocked message.
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1. I don't think you flashed a rom.
2. There is no illegal rom.
3. Maybe it is a good idea to do a clean rom install on your Kaiser, especially since it is a SH device.
Either install cmonex' hard2 spl (3.29 for Kaiser or 3.56 for Tilt) and any rom of your choice, or flash the official rom for your device which will probably work with any spl you may have.

dani31 said:
1. I don't think you flashed a rom.
2. There is no illegal rom.
3. Maybe it is a good idea to do a clean rom install on your Kaiser, especially since it is a SH device.
Either install cmonex' hard2 spl (3.29 for Kaiser or 3.56 for Tilt) and any rom of your choice, or flash the official rom for your device which will probably work with any spl you may have.
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loooool
why do you hate your kaiser!
anyways, there is no way a rom got installed without you knowing stergiosKLM...you would get many steps to click on if you were installing a rom.
format the device...install hard spl (whatever kind except 1.0) and flash your custom rom

StergiosKLM said:
Hi,
and this is not the right way to start a thread in a new forum
a few days ago i bought a used TytnII with english ROM and last night I decided to organize my phone with tools and programms and then a bad thing happened....
I accidentally flashed a ROM in my phone, the file was marked HTC_TYTNII_UPDATES. The file was installed without giving any warning about ROM or non-compatibility issues. After rebooting i get a message that i used illegal ROM and a DeviceLocked message. and the phone reboots.
Any hope to bring it back to normal?
Stergios
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Your best bet is to do a hard reset. Go to start, settings, system, clear storage.
Write 1234 and press yes. It will start you from scratch. That should help.

anyway you could upload the file you installed so we could take a look at it

I am on trip right now but as soon as i get back I will send the file.
Thank you all

Problem update
my kaiser has eng version and the file i executed from my pc and installed in kaiser memory (not card), is a localization program from the Greek distributor of HTC that installs two programs, the first in the localization program and the second is a lock program.
After a hard reset (soft keys and reset key), i get the screen alignment, time and date etc, then i tap the screen to start using the device. and then ii installing the customization program.
the file is "HTC_TyTN_II-0.4.2.6GR-9.0.0.25.Installer.zip" and is a RUU_ExtendedPKG program....

Try hard reset by poking the soft reset hole and hold two softkey simultaniously...
look here for proper instruction to reset (kaiser wiki)...

Hard reset.
tugas2khas said:
Try hard reset by poking the soft reset hole and hold two softkey simultaniously...
look here for proper instruction to reset (kaiser wiki)...
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This is the best idea I read in the thread. Just think about if this poor person throught that he/she had flashed a rom. Why even send them though the confusion of (hard spl, and flashing a custom rom)when he/she has no idea on what they are doing anyway. Just hard reset your device and this will fix your issue plain and simple.

i already tried that. plus, i do not know how, the device booted, i uninstalled both programs, then did a reset and still it keeps autoruning the file.
Should i record a video so you get an idea of what is happening? How can i upload the file so someone can check it out?
BTW i am a he. 8)

StergiosKLM said:
i already tried that. plus, i do not know how, the device booted, i uninstalled both programs, then did a reset and still it keeps autoruning the file.
Should i record a video so you get an idea of what is happening? How can i upload the file so someone can check it out?
BTW i am a he. 8)
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You try to hard reset you phone?? I not talking about a soft reset. To perform a hard reset hold down to 2 line keys located between the send call and end call buttons and press and hold in the reset button with your stylist(this is located right next to the charge/usb port) til you see a white screen with blue writing and fellow the on screen instructions. I hope that this helps

i did that many times. all goes well up to the point where i get the message "setup is complete. tap the screen to begin using your device". I tap the screen and I get a windowed message "customization. It will automatically customize your device in 3 seconds" and the device shows a progress bar which says "Loading...." then "Loading AutoShortcut...." then "Installing...." after it finishes it reboots and it loads with the greek customization. as soon as it loads i get another windowed message which notes "DeviceLock. you have illegaly aquiered this ROM! This ROM is only for phones sold by ACE-Hellas and their distribution channel!" and after 3 seconds the device reboots and it keeps doing that.

The best solution is to go to HTC's website and download a new ROM/Radio directly from them. This will 100% fix your problem.
This should be what you need.... Pick one that matches your area/carrier

How to solve until you get home
StergiosKLM said:
i did that many times. all goes well up to the point where i get the message "setup is complete. tap the screen to begin using your device". I tap the screen and I get a windowed message "customization. It will automatically customize your device in 3 seconds" and the device shows a progress bar which says "Loading...." then "Loading AutoShortcut...." then "Installing...." after it finishes it reboots and it loads with the greek customization. as soon as it loads i get another windowed message which notes "DeviceLock. you have illegaly aquiered this ROM! This ROM is only for phones sold by ACE-Hellas and their distribution channel!" and after 3 seconds the device reboots and it keeps doing that.
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Ok here's the deal. Do a hard reset and when it flashes to the customizing in 3 seconds button, do a soft reset by pushing in the reset button. That will stop customization from happening. Then you can use your phone, but will have to run connection manager to get your connection settings. This is the way to stop customization from running. It only runs one time after a hard reset.
When you get back off your trip, start with the thread mentioned above and work your way through the hardspl process and select a rom that you think has what you want then flash it.

parleyp said:
Ok here's the deal. Do a hard reset and when it flashes to the customizing in 3 seconds button, do a soft reset by pushing in the reset button. That will stop customization from happening. Then you can use your phone, but will have to run connection manager to get your connection settings. This is the way to stop customization from running. It only runs one time after a hard reset.
When you get back off your trip, start with the thread mentioned above and work your way through the hardspl process and select a rom that you think has what you want then flash it.
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thank you, i appreciate that. One last question for the proper rom, i have to match rom version and radio version only, right?
have a happy new year. thank you all again

HardSPL must be matched too, but you probably won't have any problems regarding this if you install HardSPL 3.29.

victorpak said:
HardSPL must be matched too, but you probably won't have any problems regarding this if you install HardSPL 3.29.
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spl3.28.0000, it shows in the 3color screen, i d/l this file Kaiser-HardSPL-3.28.zip. I suppose is right.

StergiosKLM said:
spl3.28.0000, it shows in the 3color screen, i d/l this file Kaiser-HardSPL-3.28.zip. I suppose is right.
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That should work with most custom roms out there. If you have a freeze issue where the screen momentarily freezes, then you will need to flash a different hard spl. Most roms, tell you which hardspl and radio are compatible.

Can not install ROM or upgrade SPL and will not hard reset

Hoping someone can help me out here. I've tried searching both xda and google with no luck, partly because the problem is similar but not the same as several other kaiser SPL issues I've found.
The problem began when i went to install a new rom. I always use the SD card method because I find it easier and safer. I copied my new rom to my SD card and entered the bootloader(current version is Hard SPL V1 (1.00.OliPof)). Tri color screen appeared and then update screen listing the image and its contents and telling me to press power. At this point the phone freezes, I can not start the upgrade or cancel out. soft reset works fine to get it to boot again. I have tried several different ROMs including some I have flashed before and got the same results.
After looking around the forums, discovered i needed to update my hardspl. downloaded jockyw2001's 3.56 hard SPL and KAISDIAG, and attempted to flash via SD card. KAISDIAG loaded fine but update froze again at press power screen. I tried reflashing hardspl v1, and hard spl 3.07 with same results.
At this point i thought i may have a problem with my SD card, so went to upgrade SPL via activesync. copied Jumpspl 1.94 to my phone and tried to perform upgrade. kaisercustomRUU got to the progress bar on computer and device and stopped, then after a couple minutes stated that there was a connection error and to recover. recover booted straight into OS. I tried the instructions for white screen freezes, and forceusb with same results
During my troubleshooting i discovered that i cannot hard reset my device via the hardware keys or clear storage.
Don't know if this is related or just a glitch in the ROM but about 2 weeks ago the phone started soft resetting randomly after the battery got under ~40%, more often as the battery got lower until it went dead.
The phone still boots up fine and works, but this ROM is too glitchy for my needs and would like to try something else
My current Rom is JoshKoss' WM6.5 21929 full
My current Hard SPL is Hard SPL V1 (1.00.OliPof)
My current Radio is 1.65.24.36
using a toshiba 2gb SD card
computer is running Windows XP pro SP2 and newest version of active sync
Sorry about the long post but wanted to make sure i explained myself clearly.
Thanks in advance for any ideas.
Brandon

With the 3.56 and the update failing, sometimes it takes several goes for it to do a successful flash. Have you followed >this< 100% to the letter? Disabling USB etc. There's really no room for error. If you don't follow it 100% it will probably never work.
As for not being able to hard reset, are you sure you are holding down the correct keys? When I first started with the kaisers I was holding down the wrong ones. You must hold the button above the IE key, and the one above the mail symbol (so the 2 keys with the lines on them), and then soft reset, while holding the 2 front soft keys until the keypad backlight flashes once quickly and then displays the reset screen message. Then you can let go.
Maybe this won't help you but you never know. Good luck.

I appreciate your help. I had not seen that page, but those directions are identical to the ones i have, and i triple checked myself at each step. As for the hard reset, I have hard reset(to factory defaults) several times before, now its like im not pressing the buttons at all. however the most confusing part is that i cannot hard reset via the OS. i click clear storage and nothing happens

Did you remove the sim and sd cards before trying it via the OS?
And maybe this thread will help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338030

Yes i did remove the cards...
That thread was interesting though... the last post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3741096&postcount=26 seems to have the same hard reset problem and i also have the standby issue he describes. I had assumed that was a glitch in the ROM. I also opened my phone up to replace the display flex connector not long before i noticed the issue.. i think there may be a relationship there. I sent that user a message to see if he found a solution
edited for clarity

I have same issue - after installing HardSPL and load new ROM i'm not able to make hard reset(actualy all buttons stop working), Active Sync recognize my phone as guest and everithing is grey. ROMUpdateUtility give me error ERROR [224] : DEVICE NOT RESPONDING - i'm sure that cable is OK .. test it wit other phone ...