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Greetings,
I just upgraded to the 2.02.00 ROM last night but still have the occassional lockups. I need to do a soft reboot to get the phone to respond. I believe when it locks up, the radio is still running since I see the blinking Green LED for the GSM. I have to switch off the POWER MANAGEMENT option of "Turn off in x min in not used" for battery power to be able to use the device for calls. The only level of battery saving I am stuck with now is the Backlight auto-off and the beam settings.
Is this something others are having as well or are any applications the culprit?
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Regards
BHAMEED
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Windiws Mobile 6 (CROSSBOW)Jwright
OS 5.2.318 (Build 15341.0.0.0) AKU 0.0
CE ROM Version : (2.02.00 WWE)
RADIO Version : 1.13.00
ExtROM Version : (2.03.05 WWE) UNLOCKED
Bootloader Version : ver 2.01
Try the power button
All buttons..including the power button...no response.
try holding down the power button
or setting the backlight to atleast one notch.
Urm... uh... ah.... eeee... aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.
I can confirm this behavior on my MDA Pro (G3).
All ROM versions the same like Bhameed's on my MDA, ...except bootloader of course.
Anyone else noticed this on 2.02.00?
Hold on, can you guys be more specific with this? Are you absolutely sure it doesn't come back on when you PRESS AND HOLD the power button??? Really sorry if I sound like I'm being pedantic, but just from what you've written it sounds like you don't know how to turn on the phone???
hahahaHAHAHA!!! awesome reply spyder
ok, yeah i was thinking this is an issue of not being able to turn on your phone.
yeah what's going on that was different from before?
There have been only few moments where you think "Surely not"... I hate those moments, I'm just hoping this isn't one of them! If it is a genuine problem it's pretty serious and needs to be addressed, but if not.... well, I don't think I should say much more
Please please please say this is all a big joke. I'm tired, please excuse me.
I confirm this behaviour!
And more!
My Qtek freezes... freezes... and then PUFFF. Dead.
I wait some minutes (30 minutes) and I can turn it on again.
I'll send it to qtek.
Mine has a thing sometimes where there will be a pause between pressing the power button and it coming to life... sometimes if I get impatient and press the power button again it will turn it back off before it's come on.
I don't really get it though. Does it freeze while it's still on, or while it's turned off? If it freezes when on, there's plenty of info about how to prevent freezes (mostly 3rd party apps + reg tweaks).
If it really does freeze when off, then please let us know anything more on the issue that you can.
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Mine has a thing sometimes where there will be a pause between pressing the power button and it coming to life... sometimes if I get impatient and press the power button again it will turn it back off before it's come on.
I don't really get it though. Does it freeze while it's still on, or while it's turned off? If it freezes when on, there's plenty of info about how to prevent freezes (mostly 3rd party apps + reg tweaks).
If it really does freeze when off, then please let us know anything more on the issue that you can.
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Mine freezes everywhere. Bootscreen, Pin code menu (when u type your pin). It depends.
then pda doesn't turn on.
Many problems.
Just go to the assistance. :\
1.Sometimes it freezes while its on. For Instance I had program opened and then whenI tried pressing X to close nothing happened. I had to use the red hardware button to close. Wonder why.
2.I too agree while the phone boots and is searching for network, it takes very long, Meanwhile when the pin enter screen come up, unless the network is fully searched one cannot enter the sim pin code, it has few freezes. or at time the phone signal icon disappears on top bar and again you need to reset the phone.
aniel1 said:
1.Sometimes it freezes while its on. For Instance I had program opened and then whenI tried pressing X to close nothing happened. I had to use the red hardware button to close. Wonder why.
2.I too agree while the phone boots and is searching for network, it takes very long, Meanwhile when the pin enter screen come up, unless the network is fully searched one cannot enter the sim pin code, it has few freezes. or at time the phone signal icon disappears on top bar and again you need to reset the phone.
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Again, I don't have this problem for some reason... I get very few freezes at all.
I think we're getting away from the original point of the post though... and normal freezing is well documented in most OS threads with means to prevent it.
Same here...Confirmed. Tried all button combinations to get the display back (short presses and long ones), but then end up having to do a soft-reboot to finally get the phone to work properly....
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Same here...Confirmed. Tried all button combinations to get the display back (short presses and long ones), but then end up having to do a soft-reboot to finally get the phone to work properly....
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And then you don't have other problems? Like freezes?
EDIT: I flash the original rom but the problem still here
I wonder if this could be a memory leak like someone suggested.... I'm sorry guys, I haven't experienced this problem, and I haven't seen any posts about it until this thread, is there any chance you guys with this issue can keep an eye over your memory status over say a couple of days to see if there's a leek and keep us posted? Once we find out what the problem is it should make a solution easier.
I experienced this problem as well using a cooked WM5 ROM on my HERM200 the only fix I found was migrating to another ROM. I'm currently using CUSTEL_Cing_v1.3, the battery life sucks but I love WM6, it is so much faster, I'm still tweaking and trying to resolve some other issues but other than that I am quite happy with it.
If you are experiencing the lockup I would suggest moving to another ROM as an option, that worked for me. Although a clean install usually fixes a lot of problems.
Bonjour
I upgraded to WM6 (pdaviet) 2 months ago (I guess..), and problems started to appear a few weeks ago. First it just was hard to boot sometimes, had to reboot several times to get it up and running, but when it could start everything was fine. Then since yesterday, it became harder. And today, couldn't start it at all. Tried several times, and everytime the screen went melted, corrupted, like if it couldn't stand an o/c, but it always runs at normal speeds. I guess it has something to do with the battery and the way WM6 handles it (or at least the implementation we have on our prophet).
I tried to hard-reset, I left it a long time on the format screen (before the actual HR) and it handled it for long enough, but the same thing started while setting up WM.... too bad !
While writing this message I tought I could try to downgrade, and I did using AKU3.3-Jester-b1.
I had no problem while the phone was in guest mode after the HR.
Everything went nice during first step upgrade, but on final reset it did the same thing, and now..... it cannot start at all !!!!
Someone has an idea ? I own a G4 and it has the following roms :
IPL 2.10, SPL 2.20, GSM 2.47 (or something like that)
It won't charge (but my batteries are full, I've got an external charger), it won't start from battery nor from power, even if the battery is removed.
Damn, at least I guess I can return it like that to orange, since it cannot start one can't see the modified rom...
If anyone has a suggestion, it is more than welcome ^^
Thanks !
Niko
huh !
back to semi-life ^^
After a few hours left alone without battery or sim card, it started again...
but it still resets every few minutes, or the screen goes melted (actually its like white scanlines that fulfill the screen).
I'll try to leave it shutdown for the night, see if I can at least put the orange splash screens and rom back for warranty purpose.
But it now has serious HW problems, for sure. And my opinion is WM6 has something to do with that. BEWARE !
Another strange thing is that I now have to keep the reset button pressed for half a second to reset, where it reseted instantly before. Those devices really have unstable hardware.
FYI, it was almost brand new, as it was warranty-replaced about one week before I installed WM6.
lastnikita said:
back to semi-life ^^
After a few hours left alone without battery or sim card, it started again...
but it still resets every few minutes, or the screen goes melted (actually its like white scanlines that fulfill the screen).
I'll try to leave it shutdown for the night, see if I can at least put the orange splash screens and rom back for warranty purpose.
But it now has serious HW problems, for sure. And my opinion is WM6 has something to do with that. BEWARE !
Another strange thing is that I now have to keep the reset button pressed for half a second to reset, where it reseted instantly before. Those devices really have unstable hardware.
FYI, it was almost brand new, as it was warranty-replaced about one week before I installed WM6.
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Hey LastNikita,
I had the same problem ! The white scanlines thing just after re-updating a WM6 version (pdaviet), because I was tired of the constant reset issue.. suddenly, the update went wrong, and I stupidly followed the "recovery" process, which tells u to remove the battery... bang ! screen went corrupted !
Like you, I tought it was over... but I noticed that if you connect your phone and PC with USB, and keep pressed power (ON/OFF button on side) + camera after reseting (little hole on bottom - press during 5 sec!), the PC recognizes a USB device (not the usual phone drivers...) at this moment, I launched the Jester 3.3 (step1) update, in order to downgrade from the ugly WM6 pdaviet... My phone was not yet fixed (still with white scanlines), but at least, I could hear again the WM "start" sound, the scanlines would also "move" across the screen borders when I touched the screen, which made me imagine I was on the calibrating process... also, while connected to PC, after a while, ActiveSync would launch, asking for 1st time synch... this kept me confident as the phone (software) seemed to be reacting fine although HW prob...
I completely charged the phone again (till green light) then kept on reseting the phone (until I hear the WM sound) hoping the lines would finish scanning and come back with the normal .. and guess what, it did !!! Of course, PIGHEAD as I am, I wasn't totally happy it recovered with WM5, so i digged for a better rom, and I can tell you I'm very happy with the smart1 (wizard version) which works fine, but still has some minor bugs as Live Messenger not working... but runs fine (specialy when pressing the ON/OFF button !
PS: Make sure the ALWAYS completely switch off your phone (ON/OFF for 3 secs) before removing the battery... it did happen again... when I stupidly trusted the "recovery" process, again !
DUHHHH !!!!
PS: at least, now you ALL know !
Kokiri
Finally ok for warranty )))
Thanks for sharing mate
I finally managed to downgrade to my original Orange rom, and I'm in the process of putting the original Orange splash screens back (I made the nk.nbf but I can't find the right utility to upgrade... "Update utility cannot open the requested file").
BUT I still have that HW problem afterall.... so I guess it still has to go back to warranty right ? This isn't a big deal since Orange is VERY prompt (I guess I'll get it tomorrow or monday morning, the delivery guy brings a new one and goes back wiv my phone, quite nice !), and I have a button which is stucked (from the begining) anyway ^^
While I'm writing this my phone is docked and synced, and it seems fine.... but, I guess, as soon as I will reset it will start over again.... I'll keep you posted.
Anyway, I'm no longer desesperate and that's good news (for me ^^)
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niko
yip
ok, everything's back to original.
Actually, it works well when docked, but it freezes/melted screen as soon as I tried to use it on battery, so that I'm quite sure it has something to do wiv WM6.... I'll post that on some crossbow threads this weekend if I have time enough (there are so many of them now !)....
But once more, if YOU read this, keep that in mind.
Hope you guys won't have that kind of failure while trying it.
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niko
confused
I am having the same problem except the screen showing white scanlines everything else is working on the handset. Could it be a LCD Problem?
Me too...
I have the same issue (black/colored vertical lines and a white screen). I think it has to do with upgrading to WM6 or with overclocking with batteryStatus, not sure. This are the suspects in my opinion....
Now I downgraded to WM5 but the problem seems to persist, I disabled batteryStatus and will see if the situation improves... crossing fingers
Uhm ... possible Overclocked!
I have read 3 threads with same errors!
how much was your highes clock? do you use it for navigation? long time on highest clock or only for speed up?
i dont have a problem with scan lines but with my prophet i use the scaling option and go max to 234 i also set to 234 when using certain apps.
is this damaging to my prophet?
at the moment trying to upgrade to PDAViet 4.0.0.0.3 with a world of pain but thats another topic!
anything im missing guys?
after flashing with the new ATT wm6 all works fine except the screen backlight keps coming on, even after pressing the screen off button it comes back on after a few secs.
peeps. anyone experience this?
i had the same problem
u cent stop it by turning your screen brightnes to 50% or above (using palm bult in brightness program (press function button (the white spot) + "P" ))
vladimir2989 said:
i had the same problem
u cent stop it by turning your screen brightnes to 50% or above (using palm bult in brightness program (press function button (the white spot) + "P" ))
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woohoo! problem solved, thanks man!
My Voda WM6 works fine with backlight set to 40%
Sigh...I should have come here to see the solution first before I hard reset my phone.
I got the same problem, but I perform a hard reset to resolve it.
Guys I posted this on another thread here but I thought I'd mention it here as well just in case you guys can help me out.
I have my Treo 750v to connect to the net and check for emails every 30 minutes but whenever it does, the screen comes on!
Is there anyway I can get around this?
I would appreciate any help.
Thanks.
D.C
Dead Cell said:
Guys I posted this on another thread here but I thought I'd mention it here as well just in case you guys can help me out.
I have my Treo 750v to connect to the net and check for emails every 30 minutes but whenever it does, the screen comes on!
Is there anyway I can get around this?
I would appreciate any help.
Thanks.
D.C
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Stupid as it sounds, this does appear to be a bug in the Treo WM6 update. It's still there in 2.23 VF as well. If you have Keyguard set to kick in at screen off and you set the brightness to anything other than 20% or 60% (at least for me) then the screen keeps turning on and often won't turn off after the 1 minute timeout. Got mine at 60% and its fine.
Hello all... got kind of a big problem that i at the moment don't have an answer to,..
inastalled advanced configuration tool 3.2 on HTC Polaris, the first crash i had was when I enabled animation for menus... (the start menu turned black and the polaris froze), but when i managed to start the advanced configuration tool i unchecked it and it was ok,...
the MAJOR PROBLEM accured when I set the touch screen sensitivity, because the touch part of the screen is inresponsive,.. meaning it does not work at all,.. tryed very hart pressing but it doesn't do it.. the problem is because i can't reach eg start menu or the lower 2 shortcuts with hard button cursor (the wheel)... gestures work however, so i can call the touch flo cube but am not able to select anything, and sam thing goes for enetering pin,.. so i'm not able to make phone calls at the moment.. did few hard resets, and uninstalled the adv. conf. tool but nothing helped... can anyone tel me where (and how to get there) can i adjust this back to normal, i wanted to do this in the advanced configuration tool 3.2 but the problem is you cant make any changes since the screen doesn't work,.. same with reinstalling the program, i can select to install it on a card but canot "click" on next since the screen doesn't do it and the hard keys "can't go there"
so really really someone help me please...
thnx
Are you sure you hard reset and this problem went away or did you mean soft reset?
Maybe aligning the screen will help reset the pressure? Click the button in the middle of the wheel and the GPS button at the same time, the Windows align screen pops up. See if that helps.
I find it very hard to believe that you hard reset and the touch screen sensitivity is still not there. That can't be right.
Hi,
thanx for the reply,... another problem that accoured afterwards was that my friend held the end button (wich locks the keys, screen) and the phone was additionally locked... and literally nothing (again NOTHING ) helped, spent 5 hours trying to save the situation,.. i did soft reset (so your assumption was right) but when later tryed hard reset it probably wasn't done since the instructions say you do it with holding gps and iExplorer buttons while soft reseting it... this resulted in getting the "hard reset screen" wich says to confirm hard reset with hitting the send button, wich unfortunatelly i wasnt able to find in hard keys, and nothing else but this warning text was on the screen as well.. so in the end it probably ended upo wit soft resetting it, anyways it didn't help,... i decided to reinstall the rom i downloaded on htc official site,... it went thru ok and the phone is , though out of the box at least functional,... but in the end, i must admit that am a little surprised this happened with this tool pack (i actually avoided altering the registers just in order to avoid this kid of situations since i don't really know much about these things)... was expecting it to work (in my case) a bit better, more stable. All i wanted really was to get a bit louder speaker volume when ringing and ability to alter the HTC home toolbar, since i find the weather screen totaly irreliable and never really use it, so i thought I would have sth there that i might really have some use of..
well nevertheless.. the phone is working, that's all that matters at the mom so i can again start finishing my phd wich i am defending in a week
PS. the fact that you can not do practically anything without the touch screen just sucks big time, if i compare it to the mouse on pc,... i saved the situation many times with the keybord .. in 1 word strange
take care
My Mobile
Perhaps you should have tryied out the "My Mobile" aplication that allows you to use your mobile from a PC.
It shows a windows with the mobile screen and you can touch it and use the mobile like if you was touching the REAL mobile...
Late for that solucion, perhaps another with that problem can solve it this way...
Chears
@gastonfama: am not sure this would help, since a friend that has htc diamond has this tool pack on and it work k ok on his phone,.. that's why i predicted that it is going to be stable enough on mnie as well,.. so in my thinking, if the 2 htc that are rather alike had such different "reaction", than an emulation would be even less comparable to mine, thanks though
Had the same problem with Schaps_AdvancedConfig and wrong HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel\PressureThreshold setting.
XML I used had "200" as advised value (system default is 2908!),
after changing you could hit it with a hammer and nothing.
Managed to set is back to recommended value 9000 using MyMobiler app and all problems gone.
See also HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel\PressureThreshold
sys default is 18866, I use now 19866 and I'm happy
Check tips&tricks thread
I got the same problem, I wanna to install "My Mobiler" but due to the screen is locked, I can't continue the installation, any help ?
well as far as I see here (forgot how i installed it after previous post) you have an exe here :
http://www.mymobiler.com/downsafe.aspx
so you will install it from the pc anyways, but how will you make the confirm on where to install it (mybe if you put storage card out and there will be only 1 memory option, but you will still have to confirm installation i guess).. i wasnt able to confirm without the screen on polaris,.. maybo on some other phone
double post...mistake
I had that same screen not working problem after tweaking the phone with advanced config 3.3, 3.2, 3.1, only hardware buttons work.
Problem can only be solved by Hard Reset. Version 2.2 I think is the only one that works (not thoroughly tested though)
Hi
Unless I'm actively using it my TP keeps turns itself off after 30 seconds no matter what power settings I use (and despite a factory reset and SPB restore). This isn't too much of an issue, except when I'm trying to use GPS/Satnav (TT7) whilst driving, where turning itself off is a real pain.
Could anyone please suggest how this issue can be resolved?
Many thanks in advance...
Is it physically turning off, requiring you to press the on key, let it reboot, or,
is it going to sleep, and you press the on key to wake it up?
If it is the latter, go to start>settings>system>power, click on the
advanced tab and change the backlight & power off settings there.
If it actually turning off, sounds like it might be a defective phone.
Thanks for your reply!
I've repeatedly altered the power settings but it makes no difference at all, if I set it to turn off at any given time (or not at all) it'll still turn off after 30 seconds. And to claify, it doesn't reboot, it just turns the screen off. It *feels* like a software issue, because it'll stay working forver as long as I tap the screen occasionally, something somewhere just counts down 30 seconds if i don't and turns off the screen...
The max time you can put on it is 5 min. The default setting out of the box is 30 seconds --which sound like what you currently have.
Set the "On Battery Power: Turn off backlight if device is not used for xxx MIN). Make sure first that that's checked, and select the drop down.
Eventually --to conserve battery power--, it will 'sleep'.
Your NAVIGATION software should have a setting to over-ride this to NEVER TURN OFF DISPLAY WHILE NAVIGATION.
Aside from that, there is no other way to keep the backlight on --unless it's plugged into a power outlet.
Many thanks again for your reply; As I mentioned previously I've already changed the power settings settings (frequently) and I'm definitely not on the 30-second default, no setting appears to make any difference, be it 5 minutes or 'never turn off'. It also happens when the 'phone is plugged into a power source too.
(And I have got the 'don't turn off whilst navigating' box ticked for the satnav but the issue applies generally, not just to the satnav, that's just where it's most irritating).
Is there any possibility something has changed in the registry to over-ride the control panel settings in this way?
How about doing a hard reset and not doing a spb restore? You realize that all you did when you restored the phone was restore the bug, right?
Edit: I doubt it will work, but you can try the backlight cab. It will restore all the stock backlight reg settings if yours are messed up.
timpollard said:
Hi
Unless I'm actively using it my TP keeps turns itself off after 30 seconds no matter what power settings I use (and despite a factory reset and SPB restore). This isn't too much of an issue, except when I'm trying to use GPS/Satnav (TT7) whilst driving, where turning itself off is a real pain.
Could anyone please suggest how this issue can be resolved?
Many thanks in advance...
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Hi,
I have same problem as you. TP keeps turns itself off after 30 sec!!
And I am using TT7. So this problem is so annoying.
I tried hard resetting and install programs one by one. and check if TP is keeping backlight on or not. And I installed TT7 and worked perfect.( display is always on)
That was yesterday.
Today I was using TP, it happened again.
The registry setting is still 3min on battery, uncheck on AC power.
30 sec problem happens both status.
This thing did not happen before Raphael_Cingular_US_5.11.502.2_Radio_Sign.
TP worked fine for a while on this radio.
Now even I check " NEVER TURN OFF DISPLAY WHILE NAVIGATION" box in some apps. TP turn off backlight.
I tried backlight.cab, that did not work and still turning off.
(thanks anyway )
ATT Fuze
Raphael_Cingular_US_5.11.502.2_Radio_Sign
Added Japanese IME
Resco Explorer, regedit
Resco Today Plugin
Spb time, Today plugin
TT7
TomTom 7 - v7.910.9185
I will try hard reset again.
Somebody please help us out.
Did you try the cab? If that doesn't work, just flash another rom.
I am also having this problem. I did get it to stop once by going in to the registry and actually editing it. But it started to do it again after a wile. I am trying it again today and see if it work. I am using a trial version of BestRegEdit and was wonder if it could have changed it back because it was a trial. So if some one elce wants to give it a shot it us under HKey_Current_user\ControlPanel\Power\Display and you will change that 30 to what ever amount of time you want. I pick 0 because i never want it to turn off. Hope this helps Oyeah, does anyone know of a free resitry editor? This is my last day on the BestRegEdit Thanks
Uh, total commander, regedit, dotfred's task manager and probably a few more.
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Did you try the cab? If that doesn't work, just flash another rom.
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Thanx,
I tried cab, and did not work. So I installed test rom and works fine now. NO 30 seconds backlight off now.
[March 1st] New ATT test rom Radio 1.12.25.19 OS AKU 1.4.6 Build 20771
I will use this until new "Signed" and Works Ok radio comes.
* Recently I use resco explorer and regedit addon. Free app: regedit.Mrln works fine, I think. I have been using these for keyboard layout section.
Glad you solved it, I had an interesting problem, similar to the screen issue, wonder it it might be related. I flashed to a new rom over the weekend, and no matter what I did, the backlight would turn off after 10 seconds. You could reset it to 30 in the power profile, but after a reboot, it would revert back to 10 seconds. Reflahsed it, and after the flash, when it starts loading the customizations, it would freeze. Flashed again, and it hung at customization again! Downloaded the rom again, deleted the old one, and flashed and it worked and the backlight would stay put!
Maybe the one you downloaded was corrupt?
Anyway, glad you got it working.
P.S. The rom isn't an "official" that I downloaded, it was one of the 6.5 that the cooks on the rom page whipped up. I think it was just a corrupted download.
This issue has happened to me a few times. even while i'm still using the phone and typing the screen goes off.
very annoying.
I found it only happened to me using EnergyROM. when I flashed to a different rom the problem was solved.
recently I flashed back to the newest version of EnergyROM again (after the previous ROM decided to hard reset all by itself) and this issue happened again in the first hour!
I really wish I could find a usable ROM for once and for all
My Case: WMWifiRouter was it!
This happend even when TP under Test rom env. I just gave up and installed latest version cause this ver is less stressfull.
Luckly 30 sec issue did not happend for a while until I installed WMWifiRouter.
Just after I install V1.50 30 sec thing and happend.
KB0907027: [BUG] v1.50 backlight timeout issue
http://support.wmwifirouter.com/knowledge/KB0907027/
I Installed V1.52 and now works fine and no backlight problem.
If you installed WMWifirouter check the link.
I use EnergyROM as well and i noticed that right after a fresh flash, if you tried to modify certain settings using the gui (i.e. alarm times, connection settings etc) they wouldnt stick - perhaps a direct registry edit using one of the tools previously mentioned might force the device to remember the changes? this worked for me when i had trouble with my alarm times not being saved.
ive also heard that sometimes a soft-reset isnt enough to commit changes to the registry - i.e. once making a reg edit, cold boot the device - that is press and hold the power button and turn it entirely off.
hope this helps