So, for those of us that are a little slow...
What is it about Dutty's ROMs that make people go CrAzY over them?
I'm looking for specifics. Why do people love Dutty's ROMs sooooo much? What makes them so much better than say Q-mobile or Alex's ROMs?
I just get the feeling that I am missing something that everyone else knows about why Dutty's stuff is so popular compared to the other ROMs.
There has to be a good reason... anyone care to clue me in?
Superspiker said:
So, for those of us that are a little slow...
What is it about Dutty's ROMs that make people go CrAzY over them?
I'm looking for specifics. Why do people love Dutty's ROMs sooooo much? What makes them so much better than say Q-mobile or Alex's ROMs?
I just get the feeling that I am missing something that everyone else knows about why Dutty's stuff is so popular compared to the other ROMs.
There has to be a good reason... anyone care to clue me in?
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Dive on in and find out for yourself. Some people don't like his ROM's others do as you can see. There are some really great Chefs out there and they all make really good ROM's. You should flash to see which ROM you prefer more. As some ROM's have specific drivers that only work with radio 1.27.14.09.
whats great about any cooked rom is tha the cook who created it shares it with us!!!!!
Theres nothing about, every cook on here is great. Every cook has their own style, the tweaks, the softwares...
But Dutty's is very popular, because we have alot of new members, they just learned how to flash, and now they need roms. Dutty's rom, has the the biggest threads, everyone makes it exciting, and the new members join his thread.
But I use Dutty's and Schaps, both great roms.
Hey sorry to drive this thread into hell, but does it take super C++ skills to do this or is it just "simply" putting things together then compiling it?
I didn't like Duttys roms BTW, I love what he is doing and I like he has provided us with some OEM CABS, but his rom isn't for me I liked Shaps because it came with a bunch of stuff to customize it to the limits.
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Hey sorry to drive this thread into hell, but does it take super C++ skills to do this or is it just "simply" putting things together then compiling it?
I didn't like Duttys roms BTW, I love what he is doing and I like he has provided us with some OEM CABS, but his rom isn't for me I liked Shaps because it came with a bunch of stuff to customize it to the limits.
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Theres a rom tool now Makes cooking alot easier. To me its about making everything flow together, make sure one software doesn't mess the other up, and getting the right tweaks.
I've tried a few roms and I always go back to dutty roms he always includes applications I use and his tweaking has been really to my liking compared to others
dutty's roms are cool, but i perfer a lite rom and to put my own apps on it . i think most people like dutty's rom because they use the same apps that dutty builds in, + the speed! But, i perfer the highest benchmark results! thats what makes me choose the rom.
Dutty's rom may not be the best rom for you. But he is the most hardworking rom maker here and always comes up w/ latest software. In addition, he is very responsive to questions too.
i second that notion
jackleung said:
Dutty's rom may not be the best rom for you. But he is the most hardworking rom maker here and always comes up w/ latest software. In addition, he is very responsive to questions too.
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schaps is also a scary cook just takes for ever to fix the bugs!
dont ask whats so great about the rom. ask whats so great about the cook. dude sticks around for his users. if something isn't right he tries his best to make sure it gets fixed. priceless!!!
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dont ask whats so great about the rom. ask whats so great about the cook. dude sticks around for his users. if something isn't right he tries his best to make sure it gets fixed. priceless!!!
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I agree with raz and I also encourage testing other ROM's as well to find out whats best for you, and our attitude should be: show appreciation (donations or a thank you, people should know that making a ROM takes a lot of effort) and making positive criticisms of flaws; not to personalities ; that benefits the whole Kaiser community.
@ekw: Which lite ROM do you use?
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dutty's roms are cool, but i perfer a lite rom and to put my own apps on it . i think most people like dutty's rom because they use the same apps that dutty builds in, + the speed! But, i perfer the highest benchmark results! thats what makes me choose the rom.
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@ekw: Which lite ROM do you use?
hey i'm new to ppc and pda's. i got a toch diamond and using dutty rom v4. its fast and i like it. also just want to say thanks to xda. you guys run a very good site. oh one other thing i noticed is that my diamond used to have only 85mb storage space but after the rom update i got 115mb
Also fans of Dutty's ROM (Dutty's WM6.1 WWE), for me, just 2 words "fast and stable", like raz said, Dutty's cooked all his ROM well.
I wish he come and upgrading his ROM
beautiful rom...
docd777 said:
hey i'm new to ppc and pda's. i got a toch diamond and using dutty rom v4. its fast and i like it. also just want to say thanks to xda. you guys run a very good site. oh one other thing i noticed is that my diamond used to have only 85mb storage space but after the rom update i got 115mb
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First of all, please do not go digging on the grave yard, it disturbs the other corpses.
Secondly, since dutty has released a Kaiser rom in well over a year, isn't it time we close this thread. The Kaiser rom forum is cluttered enough without having to read new posts about how people with Diamonds and HD's love duttys roms
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Hi there, I'm still with a pdaviet3, and I wonder what was the best rom avaible ? I'm a little bit confused because there is a lot of rom avaible now !
So vote for the most stable & the one you love ! It Could help me in my choice and maybe some others users that are in my case !
Thks
Best of the best
Pdaviet 10.2.9 !
By Phamquang
Sure!!
neXus519 said:
I wonder what was the best rom avaible ?
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So vote for the most stable & the one you love ! It Could help me in my choice and maybe some others users that are in my case !
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I'm partial to Crossbow Reloaded v1.5
I think all the newer WM6 roms are very good and so much more stable and dependable than the early releases. So find one that fits your needs and go for it
10.2.0.8 NBD (Not Big Deal) WWE - v5.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299821
I've tried most of the ROM's. I like this one the best, it's the one I always go back to after trying the latest from others.
For me Wizard Moblie 6 Business Edition v.2 is the fastest, most stable and bug-free. Only thing bothering me is amount of memory, ~24 Mb free ram, after installing favourite programs and plugins.
In fact, You said that the main differences between them, is about the "package s bundle" and some tweaks !
Difficult to make a choice, maybe I'll look for cooking my own rom but I'm pretty sure that my wife will disagree
I'll wait for a most representative poll result (maybe a little week, I dunno)
You really take care of a poll??
Sorry - but what if teh poll brings you to a rom - you don´t like because full with stuff you don´t need?
Or it leads to a clean one and you have to install everything on your own.
Believe me - try them.
No ROM is made for one person especially and they ALL have pros and cons.
BUT they are all desingned by the best Romcookers in this Forum.
Btw: Thanks for all this great versions.
Find your way.
mUn_BR_4.0.0.0 is a base rom and i don't suggest it for first timers.
mun_rus by far
papamopps said:
You really take care of a poll??
Sorry - but what if teh poll brings you to a rom - you don´t like because full with stuff you don´t need?
Or it leads to a clean one and you have to install everything on your own.
Believe me - try them.
No ROM is made for one person especially and they ALL have pros and cons.
BUT they are all desingned by the best Romcookers in this Forum.
Btw: Thanks for all this great versions.
Find your way.
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I 2nd this, I am cooking my own rom, as it is surted to what i would like. It is better to use the kithen and cook your own Rom. There is now a tool that will take any rom dump and put everything in to folders for you. So its a case now, that you can take any Rom and play with it with out problems. So the NOOB can become the all loved Chef if he wants!!!
COOK YOUR OWN ROM, IT'S SO MUCH BETTER
Have it how you want, not how the chef wants.
Its easier then you think!
UNDERGRUND for me, after having tried them all
Cheers
i think its blackdiamand 3.0 but its everyone for its self
Thread closed
I simply had it with all these "which rom is the best" polls.
Try a few and stick to the one you like. Don't let mr X and mr Y to tell you what you want. You can make that choice by yourself.
Read the ROM thread, see what applications has inside and try the ones that you think are more suitable to your needs. Plus that there are countless threads like this one out there.
I consider it spam or at least "let's give the chefs a reason to fight over this."
If anyone has a problem with me closing this thread, please pm me and maybe we can discuss it further.
I am a bit surprised that so many new WM6 ROMs are appearing on this board. The majority just appear to have been created using the Pandora kitchen.
The Pandora kitchen is so incredibly easy to use so why not just create your own ROM. We all have different requirements so no downloaded ROM is likely to suit anyone other than its originator.
The current Pandora kitchen is IMHO close to perfect. Cook your own it really is easy.
Provided you only flash the OS and nothing else you are no more likely to "brick" your Wizard than if you flash one of the preprepared ROMs - perhaps even less likely.
Dude, not all ppl have the patience, the knowledge (to edit files, edit/delete hex strings), and probably neither the courage to flash their own device for uncountable times in order to make something that will suit their needs.
I am not trying to tell you that I've got balls and super-knowledge to do that and someone else doesn't. The Pandora's Box is awesome, so is the Core Pro Kitchen also. But If it was THAT easy, MS would have also released a kitchen for every user to cook their ROM.
Im afraid I must agree with scotch whisky.
It reminds me of all these "WINXP UTILITIES AIO 2007 XP GOLD" packages that you often see.
I moderate a few boards and I do remove such things, Its not to say that what is being produced here isnt worthy of recognition, but I think it is certainly an idea to thin it a little.
For example lock the topic as soon as it is created and then have simply 1 well moderated thread for bug reports.
(And for gods sake can someone please shoot the noobs that feel they must post useless cr*p in every thread i.e "plzz sum1 [email protected] WM6 4 my PSP!!! PLZZZ!!!)
Just my 2ct...
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Im afraid I must agree with scotch whisky.
(And for gods sake can someone please shoot the noobs that feel they must post useless cr*p in every thread i.e "plzz sum1 [email protected] WM6 4 my PSP!!! PLZZZ!!!)
Just my 2ct...
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i like idea of wm06 for PSP ( screen calibration specifically ).
rofl.
Yep, I sort of agree... I'm about to work on the next release of XM6, but it basically is just going to be from the excellent Pandora Kitchen and packages, so was starting to question even releasing it (I may do some customizations to things, but really not sure). There are so many slight variations with minimal "custom" changes (other than splash screens) that pretty much any of these can be built by about anyone with minimal work (or thats the way it appears).
Faria and Doubleofour opened the cooking floodgates with their easy to use Kitchens. The Core and Pandora kitchens have just increased the proliferation.
mattk_r's work on providing a "Complete" solution (kitchen, excellent base rom, and tons of oem packages, and even cleaning up MMS and all and giving multiple versions) makes Cooking like a Instant Dinner. Just add the premade ingredients that you want, mix, and bake... Presto, your "perfect" rom just for you...
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...so was starting to question even releasing it...
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While the shear quantity of ROM's is, perhaps, unneeded, I for one sure hope you release the next version of XM6! Part of the internet community's ideals is reuse. I surely appreciate mfrazzz's (and the others' he built on!) ROMs.
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Yep, I sort of agree... I'm about to work on the next release of XM6, but it basically is just going to be from the excellent Pandora Kitchen and packages
mattk_r's work on providing a "Complete" solution (kitchen, excellent base rom, and tons of oem packages, and even cleaning up MMS and all and giving multiple versions) makes Cooking like a Instant Dinner. Just add the premade ingredients that you want, mix, and bake... Presto, your "perfect" rom just for you...
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Couple of things. First, MFrazz, your Crossbow Reloaded ROM is fricken awesome. What was the reason to change from Faria to Pandora? I'm not asking sarcastically...since I am new to all this I am really curious and I'm wondering if I should drop your previously made Crossbow to go with XM6 (or XM6-Reloaded or whatever you plan to call your next version).
Also, where can I get Mattk_r's "complete" solution with the base ROM and all the OEM packages? I would love to see what I'm capable of doing if I had all the right tools and packages available. I have a little bit of creative talent inside me. Yeah, I guess I could just ask Matt...or he could respond...so whoever knows the answer, that would be cool. Matt posts too much (and is a huge help!) to just do a search on his name.
Thanks!!
I once tried every new rom. But then i stopped flashing - because every rom only have minor changes and some have programs instlled i never use.
I think it was hard work for the first released WM6 ported by faria and mun - which were made very clean by e.g. anichillus (and many more....)
But now - afetr this great kitchens were released - cooking is very simple. So it is not really nessecary to release every new liitle step of a rom.
I stop for it - and started USING my device.
BTW - i have a herald now. But still read some of the wizard forum stuff - but it is getting more and more a "fight" - who got the NEWEST files and the BEST looking - it´s more a pimp contest then a developers forum.
Like other say: Just my 2 cent
lol
Interesting views and opinions. A while back when I first joined the forum, I tested a few roms (Xplore 1.0/1.1, MBE and Love) and quickly jumped onto Faria's/Scooters/Doubleofours kitchens to figure out how to build my own. It became apparent that it needed some "simplicity" and consolidation.
I still like the idea of roms being build and developed by cooks. This way the non-technical users can try them out and give honest feedback, without having to go through the kitchen learning curve. It's hard enough just to keep from bricking your hardware for the newbie.
User feedback can help drive improvements to the base packages and ultamately back to the kitchen - and other builders will benefit as well.
The kitchen I post is a collection of everyone elses work. I simply try to keep it updated with the great improvements that collect amongst all the different threads. I don't take / want credit for what's there - I didn't make it - I just try to make it easier
Ya i would say that there is way to many rom going around that just as too much the same!! I have my own base and i just run off that!!! No need to chnage and chnage from one to another!! I was going to release mine but then i thought that i would not be able to put up with poeple moaning so i have not! It is built how i likw it and that is that!
So Matt, I was looking at the thread in your signature link listed as "kitchen thread" and it looks like it doesn't work for T-mobile, is that correct? (T-mobile is always listed as "coming soon")
So for a guy like me...T-mobile user...heavy interest in business use and e-mail use (so Office and messenging are required...other toys are just fun fluff) what is the best kitchen to use for making my own ROM?
Or do you think of novice newbie like me should just stick with other people's ROMs? (Be honest...if its too hard to do...I'll screw up my phone in a heartbeat)
This is a simple question to answer.
Some people don't have the time to learn to cook a rom, such as me. I just like flashing couple times here and there specific roms that match my preference. Rom cookers are nice to share their stuff with the community and this helps fix current bugs and everyone learns something new with the bugs. I don't mind the experimenting.
You got all the random people complaining about how this rom needs this app or this rom should remove this. With different roms shared, one of the roms should be close to what they need.
Right now, the pandora 3.2 VC version is fitting my needs and experimenting with the different roms, this is the one I like the most.
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So Matt, I was looking at the thread in your signature link listed as "kitchen thread" and it looks like it doesn't work for T-mobile, is that correct? (T-mobile is always listed as "coming soon")
So for a guy like me...T-mobile user...heavy interest in business use and e-mail use (so Office and messenging are required...other toys are just fun fluff) what is the best kitchen to use for making my own ROM?
Or do you think of novice newbie like me should just stick with other people's ROMs? (Be honest...if its too hard to do...I'll screw up my phone in a heartbeat)
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I would say to you, ya go for it make your own rom how you like it!!! There is so much help on here that you will always be able to do it!!!
Try faria's kitchen
Packages
8 Button Commanger
I have different packages aswell that i have not shared on here so if you need something let me know!
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So Matt, I was looking at the thread in your signature link listed as "kitchen thread" and it looks like it doesn't work for T-mobile, is that correct? (T-mobile is always listed as "coming soon")
So for a guy like me...T-mobile user...heavy interest in business use and e-mail use (so Office and messenging are required...other toys are just fun fluff) what is the best kitchen to use for making my own ROM?
Or do you think of novice newbie like me should just stick with other people's ROMs? (Be honest...if its too hard to do...I'll screw up my phone in a heartbeat)
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the tmobile reference is only for the extended rom. you would have the same result if you cooked your rom and ran the cabs afterwards. I'm adding the tmo ext roms just for those cookers that would like to "automate" the installation of said cabs, but aren't ready to make their own - it's easy but one more learning curve to hurtle.
For example, I cook my combo, click the "enable extended rom" box, and build the rom. Since my extended rom has already been flashed, I don't have to add it every time to the nb2nbf_wizard. When the phone flashes, it goes to the extended rom and runs my WAP cabs. Saves me a couple extra steps, since I flash so damn much.
scotch, Ive been saying the same thing since The kitchens appeared. The real releases should be only Build number changes. Unless the builds change, why cant people just use the kitchen, put in what they want and call it a day
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Couple of things. First, MFrazz, your Crossbow Reloaded ROM is fricken awesome. What was the reason to change from Faria to Pandora? I'm not asking sarcastically...since I am new to all this I am really curious and I'm wondering if I should drop your previously made Crossbow to go with XM6 (or XM6-Reloaded or whatever you plan to call your next version).
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Yes, Crossbow Reloaded was based off of the Faria "the real thing" ROM kitchen. I only moved away from that base for XM6 because the Ingenetics rom came out which is a newer base (but didn't have some of the newest updates since it was built when that rom first was released). Personally, the Ingenetics rom seems more stable, quicker, and easier on battery, so I felt it was the next best direction to go (but since the base was different, I renamed it so it wouldn't confuse people as it is different than the Crossbow Reloaded series). If I get time, I may go back and revisit Crossbow Reloaded again (as I liked those roms too). Maybe look at melding the two back together (but they are pretty close already other than the base, and I see the Pandora / Ingenetics rom kitchen helping me do that, thus the direction the next release of XM6.
theres so many new roms because cooking is popular now...People never like the roms that are out so they think they could make a better one they way they like it..so they do..I've done the same thing not to many roms fit my needs..i need something clean but with everything still so i created my own rom and I'm Very happy with it right now so I released I must of made atleast 100 different roms before the release..so if someone sees your rom and it meets there needs thats good for having so many roms..
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Dude, not all ppl have the patience, the knowledge (to edit files, edit/delete hex strings), and probably neither the courage to flash their own device for uncountable times in order to make something that will suit their needs.
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I think this says it all. With the Pandora kitchen you don't edit files or edit/delete hex strings.
You just select what you need and press the button. It takes no more than 10 minutes to cook a ROM including flashing.
You need close to zero knowledge of computing to do it.
I actually want to cook my own rom but maybe I made it harder than it needs to be. For one thing, are all of the packages available in a thread or do the cookers go hunting for packages? As an example, all the programs I want are included in Crossbow Reloaded, but I don't want all of them (and maybe I want to add a couple more but that's not as important). Now, are all of these packages readily available to add to the ROM?
I was also unclear on why sometimes ROM cookers talked about compressing some components. Like, I remember mfrazz would say that he was removing compression on a couple of htings when the dialpad started disappearing on ROMS.
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I actually want to cook my own rom but maybe I made it harder than it needs to be. For one thing, are all of the packages available in a thread or do the cookers go hunting for packages? As an example, all the programs I want are included in Crossbow Reloaded, but I don't want all of them (and maybe I want to add a couple more but that's not as important). Now, are all of these packages readily available to add to the ROM?
I was also unclear on why sometimes ROM cookers talked about compressing some components. Like, I remember mfrazz would say that he was removing compression on a couple of htings when the dialpad started disappearing on ROMS.
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I think what is needed here is for someone (Matt!) to write a simple user guide to using the Pandora kitchen. It is obvious from this thread that many people believe that using the kitchen is far more complicated than it actually is.
Matt and others are the experts here. They have made the kitchen incredibly easy to use but do not appear to have got this fact over to a minority (or is that majority) of users.
A simple user guide avoiding all technical terms is required. Anyone who can flash one of the pre-prepared ROMs has more than enough knowledge to use the kitchen.
Matt- It I didn't say before -Great Kitchen
Credit to all those out there offering us choice with our roms, and more than often giving us more than we had ever hoped for from our phones.
But since Dutty has left all the roms seem to be very stylised and almost garish. Are there no roms out there which just have the HTC home and some nice added extras without it being made into some neon screens with some crazy backgrounds?
Is it really that difficult to download and install the HTC theme file.. yourself?
Is it really that difficult to change the background.. yourself?
You should check out the v9 ROM from L26. Search this forum for the thread. Its very popular, and should give you what you are looking for. Leo is working on a v10 ROM, that is also highly anticipated. He does have one unusual splash screen at the beginning of the ROM startup sequence, but other than that, it's very professional.
If that doesn't give you what you want, I'm not certain what will. Give it a shot, but be sure you install a version of Hard SPL first, if you already haven't. Some of the newer cooked ROM's require version 3.28, 3.29 or 3.56.
Hope that helps!
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Credit to all those out there offering us choice with our roms, and more than often giving us more than we had ever hoped for from our phones.
But since Dutty has left all the roms seem to be very stylised and almost garish. Are there no roms out there which just have the HTC home and some nice added extras without it being made into some neon screens with some crazy backgrounds?
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i agree with churchwa on this one
also, it's not very hard to cook yourself up a basic oem-styled rom if you want one that bad
This is a nice insult to all the other chefs. Why not cook your own ROM instead of posting useless garbage. Youve been here awhile and should know better
I think what you are asking for is a simple rom. Chefs out there aren't looking for something simple. You can make a simple rom by getting a lite rom and installing the cabs. Maybe you might want to learn how to cook. Seems like all you want is a original rom, and just remove the bloated stuff you don't need.
i'm posting this thread 2 c whose with me in the idea of building the real ultimate rom for our UNIs
i mean WM6.1 with VT, speed, stability, A2DP, new BT stack ... everything
we have some great minds here guys. Tomal, Luca, VNint and Cotulla
if u guys just contact and think together, I'm sure u'll do it
So, i'm thinking of making a new thread where u guys participate ... like (think out loud) in this thread, and not just the four of u, i mean anyone can add his idea.
U can add registry keys where there's a problem to think about, add cabs .... anything
then finally the rom we're all waiting for is cooked
I want to see some response here guys .. and i want to know what our developers think too
Cheers
well... every develper or cooker has his own visions how a rom have to look like... it's not only bout the design... it's also settings and possibilities.
so i don't think it'll happen and i even don't think it shall happen. cuz when i don't like one rom i take another one and give it a try
just my 2 cents...
It may be worth doing as they have on the Athena site, and start with a clean stable base rom witha large flashdisk so people can add there own cab's and software so others can try it
How about this software to enhance mobile shell
regards
jay
and not only does everyone bring their own flavor to it, like i use my uni like a laptop so i hate things like flash disks and want not, and although im in the US and cannot utilize VT i also know that it wasnt working seince 5.0 had a betaish go in 6.0 and something i saw in efn's 6.1 but i know that it will never really be a reality in 6.1
because every cook makes their own thing, my two best working roms was efn's 2.20 and cotulla's 20757
I think the ultimate ROM has already created by Tomal v8.5!!
Time ago this subject was proposed but I think it´s dificult to get all masters together because their times and ocupations.
Anyway good luck
orb3000 said:
I think the ultimate ROM has already created by Tomal v8.5!!
Time ago this subject was proposed but I think it´s dificult to get all masters together because their times and ocupations.
Anyway good idea and good luck
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duly seconded...
Less than 1% of the peoples in the community has interest for VT so it will NEVER be a reality for Uni.
But may be you can bring some brilliant idea in other areas, where most people has interest of it. For instance, "big storage" idea brought by Cotulla.
This is really amazing idea. Somehow he has managed to resize/reformat the DOC (M-Systems chip) area.
I've couple of PM's to consider it. But I'll not work on this unless Cotulla allows others to work on. But here is the principle:
The NK.EXE (of Cotulla's rom) is responsible for resizing the DOC. You can use any ROM once the resizing is done and the storage area will be same (extended) for every rom. But you need to make sure that the rom image you're using is fitting into the allocated area or it will be resulting an unsuccessful (rom) update.
Furthermore, someone can build a tool to do the DOC resizing/repartitioning as Mamaich has build one for BA couple of years back.
cheers
Thanx 4 replying everyone
there's another idea though
how about they don't make the rom together, but just solve the problems together and everyone of them just ontinue building his roms the way he likes
so, we'll get a variety of well cooked roms
like what Tomal said about the storage idea of cotulla. I think we all like it and want it in every rom
they may solve other robelms too, like the speed issues. I really don't like it when my friend's Magician is faster than mine (believe me thats true) in applications an games
and hopefully they will also get the VT working cause its just not fair that we have it and can't use it even if alot of us are not interested
BTW, Tomal, I don't understand what u said about cotulla's storage thing
For mee too Tomal's 8.5 Standard edition is almost perfect. My standard battery pack can withstand for 4 days now(Approx 30 mins GSM calls a day). Stable and fast.
Every developer has his own opinion what is good and what is bad...
If you make a "perfect" ROM. What does that mean? Take four devs and everyone has his own idea for one feature. The "perfect" ROM will be a mixture of four minds. And this one will be crap. Just because it will be the minimal consensus...
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Every developer has his own opinion what is good and what is bad...
If you make a "perfect" ROM. What does that mean? Take four devs and everyone has his own idea for one feature. The "perfect" ROM will be a mixture of four minds. And this one will be crap. Just because it will be the minimal consensus...
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I agree.
And every developed ROM some users like, and others don't. Some stick to the previous ROM by a developer, and other users prefer other ROM's... That's what I love about xda-developers is the diversity. I see others enjoying ROM's they like. I'd hate to enforce my likes on others. We all have different needs and uses for our UNI's. I'm sure those that need VT would like to see something developed for them - even if the rest of us disliked the ROM for other reasons.
The ROM I choose is the best for me... it's not necessarily the best ROM (...although I vote it is )
We have speed and stability... Bring on diversity! Let's keep the Uni colourful, let's have the choice! (Where's the button for "freedom of choice!" ).
However with developers that we have/had... Beasty, Leo, VNInt, luca15thebig, Tomal, EFN, FrankZ, No3ulla, rDosti, ThingOnASpring, JWRights, nncuong, PhamQuang, minhantratan... others I forget to mention... I think development continues with no worries. I'm amazed at what ROM I'm looking at on my second-hand Uni!! (considering it's upbringing from WM5, a sub-£100 machine, and no prospect of an upgrade).
nagoo1, what exactly is it you're needing the Uni to do?
i need it to have VT , to respond faster and to have a rom with no issues
and i want it to be smaller (u guys don't deliver this kind of service, do u ?!!!)
VT???
I must have missed it, but what h... is VT? What does it stand for and what does it add to our Universal?
jfcc58 said:
I must have missed it, but what h... is VT? What does it stand for and what does it add to our Universal?
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VT = video telephony ... which isn't available at WM6
13 ?!!!!
just 13 gave thier opinion .. is that all ?
where r our developers?
They are busy cooking ROM`s
Hiya folks,
there's a new release of touchflow 3d (version 2.6.)
is there anyway you can integrate it with your future roms ?
thanks
loserp3 said:
Hiya folks,
there's a new release of touchflow 3d (version 2.6.)
is there anyway you can integrate it with your future roms ?
thanks
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First of all it has to be ported to QVGA. Utopykzebulon (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489749) has started the work, but then he suddenly stopped it and doesn't wanna publish his work. It is a big problem, because the newer tf3d has some very cool features, and also lower memory consumption so it would be perfect on the Kaiser.
I also want to see it on our phone.
DOMy
loserp3 said:
Hiya folks,
there's a new release of touchflow 3d (version 2.6.)
is there anyway you can integrate it with your future roms ?
thanks
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There actually isn't a new release. There is an unofficial leaked beta that some are trying to cook into Blackstone roms. Since TF3D has never really been buglessly ported to kaiser or qvga phones, I doubt this version will be any easier to port.
Aside from yhe fact that the Kaiser is getting kind of long in the tooth and I think that the chefs would rather focus their time and efforts to moving up to new phones that will support this release ( when it is released ) rather than work on porting it to an older phone.
Kaiser hardware does not support 3D rendering as much as the newer devices do. So this is out of question.
well, i downloaded that TF3D rom and i must say that it doesnt work smooth at all:/ the 3d animation works great, but running something or writing an SMS is nearly impossible, and i think our chefs can make it run smoother
Pawelss said:
well, i downloaded that TF3D rom and i must say that it doesnt work smooth at all:/ the 3d animation works great, but running something or writing an SMS is nearly impossible, and i think our chefs can make it run smoother
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there's only so much a 400 mhz processor can do
that's about as good as it can get. besides, most of the chefs are moving on to newer devices
Pawelss said:
well, i downloaded that TF3D rom and i must say that it doesnt work smooth at all:/ the 3d animation works great, but running something or writing an SMS is nearly impossible, and i think our chefs can make it run smoother
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This whole idea has been gone over a thousand and one times, and some very talented chefs already took TF3D as far as it could go on our devices. And keep in mind, even HTC themselves couldn't give us TF3D for the 400mhz ARM processor chip sets. They gave us M2D instead, something actually made and meant for our hardware.
Please take UI discussion to one of the other Kaiser Forums, since it is only a small part of what is ROM development. That is, unless you release a ported TF3D build that works like butter on the Kaiser, then you can post it anywhere on this site you want, and we would all love it!
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OP: That is nowhere near a tiny request. Chef's already spend a lot of time and effort and work just cooking a ROM, let alone doing something HTC couldn't even do. This forum is for development, not for asking someone else to fulfill your every whim.
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This forum is for development, not for asking someone else to fulfill your every whim.
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I think he was asking if someone could develop a rom with TF3D 2.6 .
That is not a rom development question ....
denco7 said:
I think he was asking if someone could develop a rom with TF3D 2.6 .
That is not a rom development question ....
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You know what I mean...
mbarvian said:
that's about as good as it can get. besides, most of the chefs are moving on to newer devices
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Hey you and me are still here! LOL
Seriously though! I wish I can afford to buy a better device so that I can also experience TF3D...tired of 2D world LOL
why not pm?
instead of starting a new thread you should have asked one of our forums talented chefs.