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Is there instructions on creating a post-flash (or hard reset) install script? I'd like to have it run the cingular WAP cab, and maybe a couple others. I think I've been all over, but haven't seen anything...
Thanks!
Also - does anyone have a package or cab for camera 3.3???
Hi Matt... there are a couple of options...
First off, you could go the route that Faria does in his kitchen - effectively an Extended ROM folder under Windows. When the ROM install has finished and you've done the screen align, it runs the Extended ROM contents - just like the customisations you get in most operator ROMs. The advantage of doing it from a subfolder under Windows is that it works for G4 users as well as G3.
The other alternative is to actually flash your Extended ROM (this is what I've done, as mine is G3).
With the right files in Windows and Windows\Startup (CheckAutoRun.exe and CheckAutoRun.lnk respectively) and the registry entries set up for the appropriate location (I can tell you what these need to be), it will run no problem.
Is this what you're looking for? Faria also has a nice couple of utils that run during customisation and let you choose which operator's settings (GPRS and MMS) you wish to install. I guess these just run the appropriate CAB file based on your choice.
I am happy to help you set this up if it would be of assistance, having spent the last couple of days trying to get all this stuff up and running.
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Hi Matt... there are a couple of options...
First off, you could go the route that Faria does in his kitchen - effectively an Extended ROM folder under Windows. When the ROM install has finished and you've done the screen align, it runs the Extended ROM contents - just like the customisations you get in most operator ROMs. The advantage of doing it from a subfolder under Windows is that it works for G4 users as well as G3.
The other alternative is to actually flash your Extended ROM (this is what I've done, as mine is G3).
With the right files in Windows and Windows\Startup (CheckAutoRun.exe and CheckAutoRun.lnk respectively) and the registry entries set up for the appropriate location (I can tell you what these need to be), it will run no problem.
Is this what you're looking for? Faria also has a nice couple of utils that run during customisation and let you choose which operator's settings (GPRS and MMS) you wish to install. I guess these just run the appropriate CAB file based on your choice.
I am happy to help you set this up if it would be of assistance, having spent the last couple of days trying to get all this stuff up and running.
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It sounds like your first point is what I was looking for - but up till now I've avoided adding / manipulating the extended rom to prevent issues related to it's use. I guess I'll have to cross that bridge sooner than later!
Is there a "howto" anywhere on it? I'd like to add the option for users to select post installation packages to run, in a nice and "foolproof" way - such as themes, WAP cabs, or whatever. Kinda like "drop your post install cabs in this folder" and it'll go ahead and add them during the rom build, then execute the install after flashing.
Thanks!
mattk_r said:
It sounds like your first point is what I was looking for - but up till now I've avoided adding / manipulating the extended rom to prevent issues related to it's use. I guess I'll have to cross that bridge sooner than later!
Is there a "howto" anywhere on it? I'd like to add the option for users to select post installation packages to run, in a nice and "foolproof" way - such as themes, WAP cabs, or whatever. Kinda like "drop your post install cabs in this folder" and it'll go ahead and add them during the rom build, then execute the install after flashing.
Thanks!
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search lol i'll try and dig it up for you since i should probably do the same thing
try this of course editing it to where you want it to point:
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm]
"AutoRunCFG"="\\Extended_ROM\\config.txt"
"AutoRun"="\\Extended_ROM\\autorun.exe"
notyourdaddy said:
search lol i'll try and dig it up for you since i should probably do the same thing
try this of course editing it to where you want it to point:
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm]
"AutoRunCFG"="\\Extended_ROM\\config.txt"
"AutoRun"="\\Extended_ROM\\autorun.exe"
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I just found this link that has an extended rom in it. It makes a lot of sense, especially the txt file that directs the installation and then initiates a reset. Getting warmer!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309922
So here's what I'm thinking - just initial thoughts:
Have a folder with the base applications that are used every time like AutoRun.exe.
The user places the cab(s) in the "add files to ext rom" folder.
They run an exe that reads the directory file contents, verifies file type, copies the files to the extended rom folder, and displays the list. I'd write it in VB, since I'm most comfortable with file system operations in that language...
They change the list based on the order they want them installed using up and down arrows to sort priority.
The click OK, and it creates the config.txt file, including all necessary commands such as reset and whatnot.
That way when they build, it's all good to go.
Any thoughts?
Slightly off topic but does anyone have a .CAB for TomTom6 (or know how to edit/make one) that doesn't require user input during the installation?
I am not looking for a hacked version of TomTom, just how to prevent it asking me where to install. .CABs that run from the Extended ROM can't ask for user input or it will crash the extended ROM installation as we know; I just don't know how to edit the ttn.cab to stop it asking.
Thanks
Andy
Hi Matt,
It does sound like the first option is the best - it's also the only way to get G4 compatibility. I think your idea to write a VB app is a good one - let the user choose which CABs to install to ExtRom, but I think u need to be very clear what you want to achieve. As this `ExtRom` is not actually in the proper extended Rom, but just a folder under Windows, you gain nothing really by installing programs from here, best just keeping it for operator specific settings and such.
The other issue with extended Rom installations, of any type, is that the config file must run to completion. if you put in cab files that require user input, the install will fail (at least from a proper extRom, maybe ok in this scenario, I don't know); likewise cabs that require or initiate a soft reset will cause an ExtRom install to crash. So, this sorts of limits what cabs can be used. mine puts in personal reg settings; no operator settings as I use wifi not gprs or mms.
Also - and I hope I'm not out of line here, or misunderstanding you - Faria has something that does exactly what u need in his fake ExtRom... u cld always ask him nicely for use of it, or r u looking forward to the coding?
My only other thought is the extra support burden a complex fake extrom scenario would generate, especially if ppl don't understand its purpose and stick stuff in that causes problems...
I hope this has made some sense - past my bedtime and I'm knackered LOL. Just my 2 cents, y'know?
Good work and all the best
JoelC said:
Hi Matt,
It does sound like the first option is the best - it's also the only way to get G4 compatibility. I think your idea to write a VB app is a good one - let the user choose which CABs to install to ExtRom, but I think u need to be very clear what you want to achieve. As this `ExtRom` is not actually in the proper extended Rom, but just a folder under Windows, you gain nothing really by installing programs from here, best just keeping it for operator specific settings and such.
The other issue with extended Rom installations, of any type, is that the config file must run to completion. if you put in cab files that require user input, the install will fail (at least from a proper extRom, maybe ok in this scenario, I don't know); likewise cabs that require or initiate a soft reset will cause an ExtRom install to crash. So, this sorts of limits what cabs can be used. mine puts in personal reg settings; no operator settings as I use wifi not gprs or mms.
Also - and I hope I'm not out of line here, or misunderstanding you - Faria has something that does exactly what u need in his fake ExtRom... u cld always ask him nicely for use of it, or r u looking forward to the coding?
My only other thought is the extra support burden a complex fake extrom scenario would generate, especially if ppl don't understand its purpose and stick stuff in that causes problems...
I hope this has made some sense - past my bedtime and I'm knackered LOL. Just my 2 cents, y'know?
Good work and all the best
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That's really good info, because I'm climbing the learning curve as fast as I can here to get a good grasp on what the extended rom is, as well as how to use it. I appreciate the conditional warnings... better to know ahead of time than find out following a problem.
I'd rather use the true extended rom (as I understand it anyway), so I don't loose any additional space for the BuildOS programs. That is, assuming the extended rom is a seperate memory location than the base...
In another thread, someone is going to post that tool. I'm really interested in how it works.
If I can get all the concepts together, I hope to get a solid tool that will improve functionality in the ROM, without adding complexity or trouble... and I greatly appreciate the help!
Interesting thread...guys, you just gave me some new ideas.
Before that...there's one thing that's bothering me...
Can we use ExtendedRom on a G4 or not...lol I thought not, until me an Boto made a clean one from a G4 ExtRom and when Boto flashed it it worked , and he has a G4. Why we always say that we don't use an Extended Rom for G4 users ?
Normaly, a G4 should/would brick when flashing IPL/SPL not Extended Rom, am I right ?
We are shrinking the OS space to integrate features of the ExtendedRom in order to all people use it but is it that true ?
Ok, now back to my idea .. I want that in my next rom to include an extended rom, of course and make it that way so when you first start your PDA, it will act like when installing windows on the PC , asking you which apps or what options you want to use. I think i can manage to do that...still the question remains ...will G4 users be able to use it ?
Sorry for the delay writing back... I've been over in the G4 subforum trying to find out if they can flash Extended Rom. Some ppl have reported success using Faria's tutorial. Hopefully this is the case - what u said about IPL/SPL flashing is right, this seems to be a real problem, but if u can flash a radio-only Rom, why not Extended Rom?
What did u and Boto flash onto his G4? Blank Extrom or a cooked one?
Perhaps what we need is a guinea pig to try this out for us...!
JoelC said:
Sorry for the delay writing back... I've been over in the G4 subforum trying to find out if they can flash Extended Rom. Some ppl have reported success using Faria's tutorial. Hopefully this is the case - what u said about IPL/SPL flashing is right, this seems to be a real problem, but if u can flash a radio-only Rom, why not Extended Rom?
What did u and Boto flash onto his G4? Blank Extrom or a cooked one?
Perhaps what we need is a guinea pig to try this out for us...!
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I took the Ext Rom from the Wizard Love Rom and i edited the config.txt and deleted cabs ...that's it
Well, if it flashed OK... sounds like it might be usable after all But tell me, is Boto's G4 CID locked or unlocked? It's all very uncertain, but some of the G4 posts lead me to believe this may make a difference
ADB100 said:
Slightly off topic but does anyone have a .CAB for TomTom6 (or know how to edit/make one) that doesn't require user input during the installation?
I am not looking for a hacked version of TomTom, just how to prevent it asking me where to install. .CABs that run from the Extended ROM can't ask for user input or it will crash the extended ROM installation as we know; I just don't know how to edit the ttn.cab to stop it asking.
Thanks
Andy
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All I did for TomTom is install as normal and then copy the Navigator directory and My Documents\TomTomto my storage card where the maps, postcodes etc. are located. After any ROM upgrade all I need to do is create a shortcut in the start menu pointing at \Storage Card\Navigator\TomTom Navigator.exe No user input needed other than to pair the bluetooth gps and define a serial port.Hope this helps, it has worked for me after every change in ROM which has been quite a lot recently.
wizzzard said:
All I did for TomTom is install as normal and then copy the Navigator directory and My Documents\TomTomto my storage card where the maps, postcodes etc. are located. After any ROM upgrade all I need to do is create a shortcut in the start menu pointing at \Storage Card\Navigator\TomTom Navigator.exe No user input needed other than to pair the bluetooth gps and define a serial port.Hope this helps, it has worked for me after every change in ROM which has been quite a lot recently.
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Thanks for that but it isn't what I was really after.... I am just trying to automate everything. I have flashed my ROM that many times recently and going through the install of TomTom each time is a bit of a pain. I have got a couple of .CABs in the Extended ROM OK and these work fine, I just thought it would be nice if I could get TomTom in there as well.
Andy
I didn't want this to turn into a "how-to" thread, but I'm still scratching for hard info on the extended rom, and as many questions out there, it might be a good one to clarify some details...
As I understand it now, there's two forms of "extended ROM":
1. The true extended rom "similar to the radio ROM"
There is some "trigger" that runs the contents of the extended rom, such as AutoRun.exe?
2. The 'psuedo' extended rom that is basically a post install script to run cabs.
The contents of the folder under windows are run from a trigger that resides in the startup folder - similar to a runonce in Windows on first boot?
Does this sound close?
Also, where does the 'true' extended rom reside? Does it use the portion of memory reserved for the OS, or is there another portion just for it? (so if by adding applications to the extended rom, your available storage memory will remain unchanged - less the installed application?)
I'm presuming then by the 'psuedo' extended rom, that it does consume ROM space, but simplifies post-flash cab installations - assuming you follow the rules...
From what I see, by using the 'psuedo' ER, you waste space by keeping the installation files in addition to the installed application files.
If I'm wasting space and time by asking these questions and you know of a good extended rom tutorial, please direct me to it. I have spend some time tonight searching, but a definitive guide still eludes me... Thanks!
Sorry, coming into this thread late, but you have seen this thread, right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=968417
While it may not directly answer some of the questions, the tools and info in the tutorial may shed some light on this subject (or give you a direction to start digging further).
mfrazzz said:
Sorry, coming into this thread late, but you have seen this thread, right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=968417
While it may not directly answer some of the questions, the tools and info in the tutorial may shed some light on this subject (or give you a direction to start digging further).
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OMG, I'm getting senile... I came across this months ago, but at that point didn't know what I was looking at... and didn't see it just now in any stickies... thanks man.
mattk_r said:
OMG, I'm getting senile... I came across this months ago, but at that point didn't know what I was looking at... and didn't see it just now in any stickies... thanks man.
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Yeah, never figured out why that one was never made a sticky. I just know to go look at Faria's sig and it (and a few other good links) are in there
Hey guys,
This seems to come up a lot in just about every new ROM thread at one point or another so I just thought I'd throw it out there how I have got wm5torage to work on EVERY ROM I have tried (and I've tried just about all of them discounting the most recent ones as I haven't flashed in a while).
Basically all I have had to do to get it working is install Card Export II. You don't have to ever open it but I believe it comes with a driver update or something (don't ask me, maybe one of the cooks knows for sure) that makes the mass storage mode work on the Kaiser. Then just leave Card Export II on the device and use WM5torage as if Card Export wasn't there. Works like a charm every time, at least in my experience.
Hopefully I'm not double posting this and can help a few people out with this.
now this is good news now I will expiriment with this
my guess is that I only have to add ce2.dll and ce2ui.dll to windows folder and wm5torage should work I'll test it right away
I gave this a try. I copied ce2.dll and ce2ui.dll to \windows and then installed WM5Storage. After a soft-reset, I activated the link and connected my Tilt. My PC detected it as a USB mass storage and went through the installation process, but, then, after that my PC was unbearably slow until I deactivated the link. Same thing happened on my second try.
I made a cab form wm5torage with the dll's from Card Export I havn't tried the cab but it's working when I cooked it into my rom as a oem pack
try it an let me know if it works
Code:
[ATTACH]59865._xfImport[/ATTACH]
isn't working working for me... Installed - tried to start it - locked up my phone - soft reset - said it was going to install card export - 'failed to install' then 'sucessfully installed' - still no wm5 storage, it just locks up my phone - gullum rom
I just tried the cab and report the same stuff. It froze when activating wm5torage.
ok then it must be coocked into the rom
Calaelen313 said:
Hey guys,
This seems to come up a lot in just about every new ROM thread at one point or another so I just thought I'd throw it out there how I have got wm5torage to work on EVERY ROM I have tried (and I've tried just about all of them discounting the most recent ones as I haven't flashed in a while).
Basically all I have had to do to get it working is install Card Export II. You don't have to ever open it but I believe it comes with a driver update or something (don't ask me, maybe one of the cooks knows for sure) that makes the mass storage mode work on the Kaiser. Then just leave Card Export II on the device and use WM5torage as if Card Export wasn't there. Works like a charm every time, at least in my experience.
Hopefully I'm not double posting this and can help a few people out with this.
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I do the samething...but has anyone tried to see if it still works after the trial period expires...the reason why I haven't tried that is because i'm always reflashing my device almost every other week and never had the trial version expire since I always re-install from scratch...
c'mon guys, why are you opening the same issue? why don't you better search!? it has been already solved, we know, that WM5torage is working when CE2 is installed.. also know, that MW5torage will work, when CE2 trial is expired. as far, as i tested - CE2 NEEDS to be installed to have WM5 working - you can not just copy files into windows. it will not work (at least on kaiser)!
Hey, I apologized in the first post in the event that I was double posting a solution. I did do a search before posting it but posted for two reasons:
1. When I did search I did not find this particular solution (upon a second search I did find it but I had to read through a thread a bit before I got to it).
2. As mentioned in my first paragraph, this issue is CONSTANTLY coming back up, be it in the form of a new thread or in the form of 40+ people spamming up a perfectly good release thread with "WM5torage doesn't work, has anyone else got it to work!!!!!" making it harder to find legitimate information about a new ROM release.
I understand that the forums are getting increasingly cluttered with unnecessary threads/posts, but please refrain from "Use the search tool!" posts and thereby adding to the clutter. Yes, we all know by now that the search tool is available. No, we don't always find what we're looking for when we use it, especially when our answers are on page 43 of the thread (no, mine wasn't in this case but we've all been in that situation). If you really want to help with this issue, submit a link to the post that has the solution. If you don't have time to do that, great, send a PM to the person who opened the thread and let them know that the issue has been solved previously and they can direct people to the right thread. Otherwise, just let the thread die as it will inevitably do if it is not necessary.
Sorry again for adding to the mess.
Sorry, but I just tried that (Official HTC rom, installed WM5torage, soft-reset, installed cardexport II, soft reset), but still not working
It is working with cardExport II, so I would guess that WM5torage is not using the right dlls
Somebody mentionned that already and was telling that it must be on a cooked rom ?? Which rom would allow that ?
don't know how to get it working. I spent a while trying to get it to work, and then I just gave up. I could never get it to work at all. I have CardExport working in trial mode, but I didn't want to pay for it. Its best just to move on from this unless you find a rom with it built in already...which I never have found. ROMeOS was going to try to do it once, but that project has been discontinued.
Jason
I just got my first pocket pc in the mail yesterday. First off, I absolutely love it. I got the wizard - it was a very good price on ebay for the features, even if it is a couple years old (I think?). Regardless, it's a huge upgrade from a standard cell phone for a small price.
I've never used one before nor used windows mobile. It came with WM5 and I've managed to unlock and update it to WM6. I read somewhere that TNT.1437 was a stable release, so I installed TNT.1437 with TouchFlo. It seems fine, except I still get clocknot.exe notification every time I start (even after disabling auto update for time).
My main question is this - is TNT.1437 still a good release or is it getting old? If I remember correctly the thread hadn't had posts in a while. Is the newer TNT release near the top of the forum stable?
I am mainly looking for a stable release that won't mess up my calls. Even WM5 had huge improvements and features over my basic phone I had, so having the 'newest' software isn't really needed (although I don't mind it if it's stable).
Anyways, I'm just wondering if I should stick with 1437 or upgrade to something else before I start diving into it and installing my own apps and setting the phone up. If I do stick with it (or upgrade and still have the issue), is there a way to get rid of that clocknot.exe notification besides turning auto-update for time off, which doesn't seem to have worked? I also installed the trial version of memmaid as that was recommended in the same thread, it didn't find any notification issues.
Thanks in advance.
1st thing to remember is that it's not a smartphone. it's a pocket pc. Smartphone apps won't work on this (most at least) and vice versa although there are a few.
Smartphone's don't have touch screens.
My Experience
Here's the thread containing the latest TNT ROM and a lot of info on it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367534
I'm using v1 of the last build and am having lockups on occation when the PDA is in standby. That said a lot of the posts indicate that sometimes you have to flash a rom several times or downgrade to a stock rom first before weird things go away. There was another post that suggested doing a soft reset followed by a hard reset after each rom is loaded to avoid rom instability problems. Also there was another post I read that said stability problems can be solved by using a specific utility (sorry name excapes me)that backs up the rom you just installed to your memory card and then reloading it from the memory card. None of this makes sense but I'm going to try these things if I can't get my lockup problem to go away with the latest build of TNT.
As for the notifications problem I fixed my through trial and error. Appearently there is a notifications queue or database that gets all screwed up. There are many tools out there (I used one called CheckNotifications) that let you fix the queue but in doing so you may break activesync and other automation. If found an app (FixASRunAt) that puts the neccessary entries back. I don't recall my exact procces for getting it working right but I do recall it took several passes at using both apps.
Good luck with your upgrade!
Welcome, I've had my wizard for two years flashed 5 or 6 roms, "its right" make good stable rom packed with useful software. I would suggest you read lots about any rom you install as if there are any problems its reported and usually fixed in rom thread.
If I might suggest Jaguar 4.0 rom, it is very stable and only a few programs leaving lots of space for you to test and add programs of your choice, you will want to try different programs. Some you stick with others will not be of use to you, the fun is in trying new things.
If you feel a little braver try the rom in my signature, I've had a few teething troubles but nothing major, anyway I can always change back.
Keep operator settings and instructions to hand, to make it easier when flashing, I also keep a list of installed apps so it is easier next time to remember what I use most often.
Finally welcome, there's now turning back now, it's addictive you know!
It most certainly is addictive.
Thanks for the tips thus far. I have one major question left - seeing as how there are so many ROMS out there, should I ever want to change to another one due to problems with the current one, or just to experience it, is there an easy way to keep program data and settings saved? There are certain third party programs that I would like to keep on the unit regardless of which ROM is running, so I'd like to be able to simply install them again and restore them to the state they were at with the previous ROM. I'm not sure how WM software works.
So far with TNT.1437 installed, I've just had a few problems, some of which may simply be the fact I'm new to WM and don't know what I am doing. It froze once or twice but that was it. It tends to run fine. The biggest issue I am wrestling with now is wifi connection. It always attempts to connect to previous wifi signals even when I am in a different location. If it would work as a laptop does (connect to a NEARBY wifi signal that you have provided a key for) then that would be great. But it keeps trying to connect to the campus network when I'm at my apartment, so I have to manually go in and figure out how to stop that and get it to connect to the apartment one here (out of like 10 options, which I only use one). Then I go to campus and I have the same issue and have to go in and make adjustments again. However, this is probably a WM issue and not a ROM problem.
As far as saving data or settings, I usually either back up the appropriate files to storage card or install to Storage card and just reinstall after hard reset. I don't think any back up utilities work if you change roms, but I'm sure some one will prove me wrong.
As for your second problem, I didn't even know it was one, so can't help you. Although thinking about it I've seen a program for assigning profiles to wifi connections or something along those lines, which is just what your looking for. Do a search. If I come across it will post a link for you.
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As far as saving data or settings, I usually either back up the appropriate files to storage card or install to Storage card and just reinstall after hard reset. I don't think any back up utilities work if you change roms, but I'm sure some one will prove me wrong.
As for your second problem, I didn't even know it was one, so can't help you. Although thinking about it I've seen a program for assigning profiles to wifi connections or something along those lines, which is just what your looking for. Do a search. If I come across it will post a link for you.
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Installing to a storage card seems like a good idea. When you install to a storage card, does it install the App there as well as data for the app? Do you even get a choice of where to do the install? Some files run as .exe on the desktop and then automatically install on the wizard. Others I have encountered have you copy a .cab file to the wizard and then just open it. Would you simply put the .cab file on the storage card and open from there? Is there a way to install via .exe to storage card?
I have a bunch of microSD cards around, so I'm waiting on a miniSD adapter to come in so I can actually use them with this phone. It will probably be easier to figure out once I have the adapter.
wow. ive had my wizard 5 months im still having problems understanding what i read about geting wm6 and touchflo. you experiance with do things allready?
Doesn't matter where you install from, when you get a storage card in, you are given a choice:- device or storage card.
Some don't like storage cards and after go on device memory, i.e. today plug ins. but its not written in stone, trial and error.
Thanks for all the help. It's a lot clearer than it was a few days ago now that I've played with installing some more.
My final question is this: I've learned how to install ROMS and search these forums for them (although I'm not sure on what each has to offer, as that will take some time). However, people mention when switching ROMs for whatever reason, the best thing to do is install an original ROM first, and then go on to whatever you want to install.
Where can I find the original ROMs for WM6? I've looked in the forums and did a search but didn't seem to come up with anything.
Would an original WM6 ROM work? Or would I need to flash back to a Cingular one with WM5 like it had when I first got it?
Anyways, just wondering about this. I imagine I just do it the same way I flashed the TNT ROM, but need to get a copy of the original ROM saved for future use.
Thanks.
Superman859 said:
Thanks for all the help. It's a lot clearer than it was a few days ago now that I've played with installing some more.
My final question is this: I've learned how to install ROMS and search these forums for them (although I'm not sure on what each has to offer, as that will take some time). However, people mention when switching ROMs for whatever reason, the best thing to do is install an original ROM first, and then go on to whatever you want to install.
Where can I find the original ROMs for WM6? I've looked in the forums and did a search but didn't seem to come up with anything.
Would an original WM6 ROM work? Or would I need to flash back to a Cingular one with WM5 like it had when I first got it?
Anyways, just wondering about this. I imagine I just do it the same way I flashed the TNT ROM, but need to get a copy of the original ROM saved for future use.
Thanks.
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Although the wizard was tested my MS with wm6, it was never released as stock. For stability, always flash your carrier rom before a new rom (wm5... you can get it at htc)
Octavio's roms have been the most stable for me. 6.3 with wm6.1 works great. Also check out www.pointui.com for another type of touch interface. I think you would like it.
Oh... and don't become like us. I flash the rom now more then i use it. Dang things addictive.
Alright. When you say I can get it from HTC, are you referring to this URL?
HTC Download
I just want to make sure I am saving the correct version to revert back to in between ROMS. The site doesn't really provide much description about what it is.
Edit: I tried to install the ROM from the URL above, but it gave an error and said I need a newer update utility. Not sure why...Anyways...Can anyone provide a link to where I can find the original ROM I should flash to between other ROMs? If it makes a difference, I have Cingular (AT&T) - originally had WM5 now it has TNT.1437 (WM6) and I went through steps for hardSPL if that makes a difference (IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.01ip) as seen on the wiki. Phone is a G4 and works fine other than a few bugs / freezes up on ocassion, but I'd like to try other ROMs
EDIT: The ROM above did work, but I had to remove the HardSPL I had added earlier. That must've been the problem. After removing it, I installed stock ROM without any trouble - time to try a new ROM!
Hey,
I just got my (Orange UK) TYTN II. The Orange setup is downright HORRIBLE. The thing doesn't move, and their home screen really stinks.
I really need to flash the ROM. I read many topics and stickies here (such as Kaiser ROM_Flashing FAQ and SPL Questions, but I feel like I'm still missing things. As this is my 1st time ever - I'm afraid I'll brick it. I really need your help guys.
I'm undecided between using an official ROM (which one?), using NoThrills_WM61_WWE_V3 or RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship . What I need is a solid, dependable PDA/Phone/mobile desktop replacement. I'm not planning on gaming etc so graphics speed (while nice) is not all important.
Which one of these ROMs or other do you recommend?
Let's assume i use NoThrills_WM61_WWE_V3 (my current favorite). Would it (or the ROM you recommend) work on the Orange TYTN II?
I never connected the unit to my PC yet, or installed anything on it. Before flashing should i install ActiveSync or anything else on my PC, or just connect HTC to USB and go?
The way I see it, these are the steps for flashing. Did I miss anything?
Take out my SD card.
Connect HTC to computer using USB cable
Run kaiser-HardSPL.exe on desktop PC
Follow on-screen instructions for installing kaiser-HardSPL.exe onto the device.
Now that HardSPL is installed on device, copy NoThrills_WM61_WWE_V3.exe (or other ROM) to my desktop PC and run it from there, following instructions.
That's all.
Will installing kaiser-HardSPL.exe automatically remove the Orange CID-Lock, or do i have to do anything else?
To install the ROM, do I need to use HTC_ROM_TOOL.exe, or any other tool, or just work using the steps above?
Does the RUU...exe run on the desktop, or should i run it on the device?
If i brick it, is this reversible (by me or by a lab)?
I hate sending the "damsel in distress" thing - but this is just how i feel now. Would REALLY appreciate your help.
Kim
Here is what I would do.
Since you already spent what it looks like some time trying to flash your device. I will give you a couple of hints.
First I would flash to Jockys1.1 HardSPL. http://www.4shared.com/file/46447471/7ae96b57/Jockyw2001_HardSPL_-_SuperCID.html
This will allow you to CID unlock your device really easily.
To install HardSPL do this.
1.) connect your device to you PC
2.) Copy the JumpSPL.exe to your main memory of your device. Remove any SD card you may have
3.) run the jumpspl.exe to your device. Hit continue. It will go to the bootloader (tri-color screen)
4.) When you device says USB at the bottom, unplug the USB cord from the phone and wait 10 seconds.
5.) Reconnect the phone to the PC. Run the HardSPL
It should flash really quickly.
Next to security unlock / CID unlock your device.
Follow the instructions that came with the download. Its a real simple process. Be sure that you read all instructions to a T.
Check this thread if you run into any problems. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Happy flashing.
Ok, I'll bite...
You are definetly reading the right stuff, but I'll be honest, things have changed and evolved here (with all the new SPL's and stuff) so even for me that did hardspl back in December when I got my Tilt, I was a bit overwhelmed when I got my new replacement Tilt last week and had to start looking at doing this all again. So let me try to step you through what I just recently did and has worked for me. Remember, YMMV...
* First, I opted to go with Olipro's CID/SIM Unlocker this time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583&highlight=supercid
A bonus here is that it also does Security unlock now, so its an all in one tool, and the GUI interface that Olipro put together makes this really simple and pretty flawless (just read and follow the steps in the thread and read and follow everything your PC and Phone tell you to do).
* At this point you are now unlocked and ready to start your life of flashing and tweaking. (Unless you are really strong, be prepared to become addicted to trying to find the "perfect" rom ). I personally opted not to do one of the 3.x SPL's yet. Personally I've never seen the hesitation that so many complain about. I may still look at doing this to see if something improves, but for me I haven't found it necessary. But if you want to do that, do it now.
* Now hard reset your phone (good practice and I tend to do this a lot to make sure its nice and clean before AND after I flash a custom rom). Either use the Clear Storage icon in your Settings area, or hold down the two soft keys while hitting the soft reset button at the bottom. Note holding down the soft keys way can be tricky if you have big fingers like me, so I usually go the Clear Storage method.
* Now go get the rom of your choice. I would personally recommend either L26 V5, L26 V9, or Garmin DK1.2 (I'm still on Garmin DK1 and loving it but will probably move to 1.2 soon). I've found all 4 of these to be very stable ROMs (My phone is important to me for work, so stability is a must, and I can't put up with a bunch of bugs that people tend to avoid or live with in some custom roms). But the rom you choose is really a personal choice for you. What I like may be very different than what you like. So read the threads and try to find one that fits your style. (NOTE: This may be terrible for some to hear, but while I love what Garmin did with his roms and the extra work he put into it, the custom icons are a little over the top for my taste (they are wonderful, but I've used Win Mobile too long and find it hard to find things). So I pulled out the custom icons (search his thread for my post on how I did this if you want).
Honestly thats really all there is. Once you complete the Olipro CID/SIM unlock, your phone is going to be very hard to brick by just flashing roms, and the security unlock on it should (SHOULD) save you from nasty radios that come out trying to lock you to them.
Good luck and welcome to XDA...
hard SPL is the Key (instructions above), also make sure you flash a new radio if you want to use a new rom, Death V4, L26 V9, and Garmin are good, if you want to try a really cool total makeover checkout Gullum Throttle Multilanguage
justkim said:
I never connected the unit to my PC yet, or installed anything on it. Before flashing should i install ActiveSync or anything else on my PC, or just connect HTC to USB and go?
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Everything Alltheway and Mfrazz said, but Yes you should have Activesync installed first. Right now I'm on
"[July 11] HyperDragon III WM6.1 WWE ROM 19588 - 19591 - 19915 (Diamond & Xperia ROM)"
but I've tried many of the available ROM's and most have something good to offer. Just keep trying until you find one that works for you. and pay attention to the radio and SPL recommended for the rom you use.
You posted the same speel here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379411
justkim said:
Hey,
I just got my (Orange UK) TYTN II. The Orange setup is downright HORRIBLE. The thing doesn't move, and their home screen really stinks.
I really need to flash the ROM. I read many topics and stickies here, but as this is my 1st time ever - I'm afraid I'll brick it. I really need your help guys.
I'm undecided between using an official ROM (which one?), using NoThrills_WM61_WWE_V3 or RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship . What I need is a solid, dependable PDA/Phone/mobile desktop replacement. I'm not planning on gaming etc so graphics speed (while nice) is not all important.
Which one of these ROMs or other do you recommend?
Let's assume i use NoThrills_WM61_WWE_V3 (my current favorite). Would it (or the ROM you recommend) work on the Orange TYTN II?
I never connected the unit to my PC yet, or installed anything on it. Before flashing should i install ActiveSync or anything else on my PC, or just connect HTC to USB and go?
The way I see it, these are the steps for flashing. Did I miss anything?
Take out my SD card.
Connect HTC to computer using USB cable
Run kaiser-HardSPL.exe on desktop PC
Follow on-screen instructions for installing kaiser-HardSPL.exe onto the device.
Now that HardSPL is installed on device, copy NoThrills_WM61_WWE_V3.exe (or other ROM) to my desktop PC and run it from there, following instructions.
That's all.
Will installing kaiser-HardSPL.exe automatically remove the Orange CID-Lock, or do i have to do anything else?
To install the ROM, do I need to use HTC_ROM_TOOL.exe, or any other tool, or just work using the steps above?
Does the RUU...exe run on the desktop, or should i run it on the device?
If i brick it, is this reversible (by me or by a lab)?
I hate sending the "damsel in distress" thing - but this is just how i feel now. Would REALLY appreciate your help.
Kim
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Read, more and you will find everything to know about flashing ROM's and what advantages and disadvantages they have.
Hi, in regards to the rom you choose, it's tough for anyone to answer for you. You may find it's even tough for you to choose on your own. The main thing comes down to knowledge i guess. You mentioned that you want stable...well, while most roms are fairly stable, some of the "special features" can cause instability elsewhere. Not sure how much background you may or may not have but with no knowledge of how to remedy such problems, this might prove to be a headache to get some bonus bells and whistles. On the flip side...light roms often tend to be more stable, however, you will have to spend the time seeking out and loading up the things you want. This is nice in the respect that you get exactly what you want. In the end...the real key is trial and error though.
I've tried a good portion of the roms floating around and all of the current:
If stability is your main concern right now, I'd say one of the ROMeOS roms....they seem to be rock solid and fast enough. Not really any incompatibility to speak of as far as I found (or read). However, you will most likely want to add to it as only the primary apps are included.
If special features and tons of software that you may or may not use are your thing than pretty much any of the others will suffice as they are all pretty good at this point. Just remember though, you may find some unfamiliar territory.
Personally, I like to break and fix things so I jump around a bit. But in the end, when I'm not in the mood to play, I tend to choose a stable / light rom and customize it to my preference or completely rebuild it to meet my day to day needs.
In the end, it's all trial and error to see what suits you best....keeping that in mind, you may want to look into UC (User Customization) or Sashimi. These are autmated installers that will speed up the trial and error.
Something to keep in mind though (if you are new to WM). While WM isn't much out of the box, it can virtually be anything you want it to be. However, it will require a little time and effort on your part.
Oh...and please, please, please never ask how to change time format. I swear this must be the most commonly asked question on XDA. Sometimes feels like a thousand times a day or in a single thread. (If you don't believe me, search one of the L26 Rom threads =) ). If you come across this stumbling block, here's a hint: on the time format picker, although WM only ever shows two options on screen at once, you can scroll up and down. All common format ARE included. TBH: I don't know how people don't see this one on their own before even posting despite the millions of times it's been answered here
Hi All,
In an attempt to get a definitive answer to this question.
Firstly, for those not aware, if you have the box your phone came in, the code should be listed with the IMEI number. If you don't have the box, or the code written down somewhere, your quest seems futile.
I had my 9502 into Telstra (Australia) for warranty work 3 times after I-Mate shut down. Each time it came back with at clean ROM install. After a long inquiry, and a number of heated phone calls, Telstra would not reveal my ROM CODE or how they were able to get it (most of the people I spoke to didn't know what I was talking about, and wouldn't put me onto the people who would).
THE APPEAL
Any techs out there (or anyone that might know a tech they can ask) that know how to get the ROM CODE, please let us in on the secret.
Seriously, all these phones are old tech now anyway, so whats the problem.
If the codes can't be generated, please let us know that so we can go about our lives in peace.
I don't want guesses, or rumors. I want a tech who knows what they are talking about to give us a final answer.
[here] is the i-mate Ultimate 9502 WM6.1 (5.2.19585) Chinese SD CARD ROM.
How to use it - I don't know, as I don't have this device.
But most likely you need to copy all files to empty FAT16 SD card (non-SDHC) and find key combination to launch BOOTLOADER.
I think it's the only way to flash it without ROM CODE.
You should somehow access this menu (found this in oemsbl.mbn):
Code:
===SD Download Auto Menu===
0)Exit without update
1)update QCSBLHDCFG
2)update QCSBL
3)update OEMSBL
4)update AMSS
5)update APPSBOOT
6)DO-IT-ALL (CAUTION: WILL ERASE FLASH FIRST)
7)update FLASH.BIN
9)DO-IT-ALL-FR (CAUTION: WILL ERASE FLASH FIRST)
===========================
Thx Spiaatie
I'll check it out and post how I go.
Hmmm...
Not sure how to do this, and my concern is that I don't know what the ROM is, and if it's not any good (or in Chinese) I've got no way to get back to where I am now.
shadowzone said:
Not sure how to do this, and my concern is that I don't know what the ROM is, and if it's not any good (or in Chinese) I've got no way to get back to where I am now.
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ROM is operating system in this case it's WM6.1.
You don't need to flash it, you just need to find a way to get phone into SD Downloader mode. Chinese ROM is the only one I have, but if it's possible to flash it through SD Card - I could probably make English ROM.
Thx for the offer of the english ROM Spiaatie, but I'm not sure i'll improve anything. I had a look around on my hdd for some of the ROMs I d/ld when there was an active thread on XDA for the 9502, and it looks like I've deleted them. Since the thread seems to have been deleted (an observation not a complaint) there probably isn't much point pursuing this further. Since getting my HTC Desire, I have only been looking to streamline the 9502 OS a bit so my kids can play games on it, so I wouldn't want anyone wasting valuable time for that.
Spiaatie said:
ROM is operating system in this case it's WM6.1.
You don't need to flash it, you just need to find a way to get phone into SD Downloader mode. Chinese ROM is the only one I have, but if it's possible to flash it through SD Card - I could probably make English ROM.
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Sorry for such a late response. I was searching for something else when I found out this thread. Anyway, in order to put the 9502 in bootloader mode, press and hold both the left 'OK' and the right '-' (vol-down) buttons, and, whilst keeping them pressed, slide the screen up to reveal the hardware keyboard, and briefly press the reset pin with the stylus pen.
Just my 2 cents...
Regards,
Carlos