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The ultimate Question tracking your XDAII around the world

After FINALY finding a working way to get TomTom nav 2 working on my XDA2
(with the Lead from the XDA.1)
I was Driveing arround and Thourt to myself...
Is there a way to Transmit my GPS Map refrence point Via GPRS
Back to my home PC where the Map refrence can be Linked
to an on screen map at home?
Much the same way the GPS plotting is linked to TomTom Maps
for navigateing.

been thinking about this more today.
shurely the data from the GPS isnt too big,
If there was a way to relay the data onto a IP address (home pc)
and have a Map program like TomToms understand that data
in the same way TomTom maps do, then you (or ya missus)
could track your position.
ok mebe not in real time, but im not a Tech so i have no idea how much
Data is involved in GPS plotting but a 5 second delay wouldnt be bad would it?
this is kinda the way GPS tracking works in tracking stolen cars i guess
but now we have GPS on our lovley XDA2's we to can transmit that data
Via GPRS couldnt we ?

I think you can have a look at this solution:
http://www.geocities.com/gps2sms/
It's using SMS, GPS to track your current coordinate. It's free. You could tailor it if you want.

Sorry I forgot to mention that currently it works with Nokia or Siemens phone with a laptop. The Nokia phones are there to act as the modem.
It doesn't work with XDA but I was just thinking about thse app's idea of using the phone to send the current coordinate. the O2 can replace the laptop and send using SMS or GPRS to a central location (your server) and updates it real time

I am doing a program for the XDA II that will send your GPS location back to a given number i will post a few screen shots if you like.
You will be able to select any com port that you like it works at the moment with All TOMTOM devices.
Paul J

DA Systems & their Nexus/NX product for the XDA1 & 2
I have done simillar using area codes and also with fixed GPRS/GPS units.
You need to send Lat/Long & ID to specific IP/port via GPRS, then add that to a database, which can be parsed by a mapping program such as MapPoint.
Cheaper than SMS

pjcltd said:
I am doing a program for the XDA II that will send your GPS location back to a given number i will post a few screen shots if you like.
You will be able to select any com port that you like it works at the moment with All TOMTOM devices.
Paul J
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Yes please post a few screen shots!

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This is the Com port Bit and the GPS bit
I will post more later

Wireless Delivered (www.talecom.net) has been doing this for over a year using the XDA I!
It even has an real-time map online where you can go and look at where your XDA is! 8)

Richard
Ah! But has it being working for over a year?
Sorry - couldn't resist

intresting stuff
but is there a simple app that i can hunt the net for ?

no thats why i am doing one
I work for a company that uses tracking (GPS) phones and we have looked for a system for the ipaq and the xda that we could use in our software.

I use http://www.mapamobile.co.uknot very accurate though

but can u still use your gps?
if I understand you correctly, if your code is running, my wife can
see where I am from home, but I can't run my moving map
what we really need is to "install" a new COM5 etc port,
so that TomTom reads COM5, our program reads COM4
where the real GPS is installed, and send it over SMS/GPRS.
Scheme
GPS -> COM4 -> sent to home
-> also copied to COM5 -> local GPS(tomtom) display
I'm not sure how to setup a "virtual COM" on PPC. It is pretty
easy to implement on UNIX (virtual tty).
Ideally, someone should write a "dblCOM" utility.
it takes COM4 and copies its output to COM5 and COM6 ...
it takes input from either COM5/6 and copies back to COM4 ...
(com# are configurable of course)
this way we can run TWO DIFFERENT GPS SOFTWARES at the same
time. this is far more useful than you might think... one could be
a visual display of your speed/acceleration/etc, the other moving map.
serial+gps+camera+voice record+gprs in one fast computer box
is a mighty powerful machine.
think of connecting it to the engine monitor in the car and having
a complete monitor, not to mention a blackbox, for every car
on the planet ... you can even pinpoint drunk driving in real time
using special intuitive software ... and the government will probably
make it mandatory in every car before 2020 ... yak.
Did you know that the first matrix was a perfect human world?
It was a disaster...

Get the TomTom SDK & you can do most/all of the above.
The SDK has the ability to make GPS positional data available to another program as well as TomTom. You then just need to create a vehicle for sending the data back to a remote location.

The real question should be - "Do you really want your wife tracking where you are?" 8)

I have been doing this for some time now:
1. Use Oziexplorer for navigation on XDA1 / XDA 2
2. Use Net GPS to send GPS data to a web server through GPRS (Or GSM) (you can use it alone or with Oziexplorer on the XDA)
3. Use Oziexplorer for PC on remote PC, connected to the webserver through Internet
http://www.oziexplorer.com
http://www.gpsvehiclenavigation.com/GPS/netgps.php

Another quite similar project
I like to share this URL of not too dissimilar project by one person which I happened to stumble in the newsgroup:
http://www.brains-n-brawn.com/default.aspx?vDir=nosink
Some source code samples are given to give some idea.

*** Tracking your XDA using GPS ***
Hey you guys
I cant believe that your trying to reinvent the wheel
Have you not heard of Co Pilot Live 4
It does exactly what you want, despite being a better SatNav Program anyway IMHO having street names as well as road numbers read out verbally it also allows you to log on to their website and see EXACTLY where you are and even your direction of travel from your home PC. AND it even allows you to communicate by sending text messages to the PPC with custom design responses.
Imagine the wife can now ask you
What time will you be home from work? [6pm] [7pm] [8pm] [9pm]
Can you pick up little johnny from the School Play? [YES] [NO]
Oh what Joy!!!!
As some poster said "Do you really want your wife to be able to pinpoint the car 24/7
Check out their website
www.alk.eu.com
Hope this helps

it is all about my cruise .. help to setup

guys,
i just got my cruise .. what should i set up or install to optimum my new baby?
btw, look at the picture:
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look at the calender, there is a word show "tomorrow" (if the event is tomorrow) ... but mine, do not have that today or tomorrow word .. .. how to setup it? .. .. it is small matter but i need it .. ..

ok guys, ignore the first post .. i just got the answer .. ..
btw, for gps, what software are you using? is mapking 2007 good enough? .. tq.

afham07 said:
ok guys, ignore the first post .. i just got the answer .. ..
btw, for gps, what software are you using? is mapking 2007 good enough? .. tq.
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tomtom software should come with the device. happy with it. also tried destinator and pocket navigator. all work fine. depends which one u like better and which country u intend to use it in.

destinator and pocket navigator?
Hi,
I got the Orbit II the other day and it only has copilot. Are either of these "destinator and pocket navigator" free software. I'm in the UK, can you recomend one?
thanks,
Joe

For the UK uiy can use every soft. Just take the one that offers the best interface. Maps are (almost) the same. The big difference in in Eastern Europe (especially Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia and Greece) where it's iGo or nothing

TheOnly1 said:
For the UK uiy can use every soft. Just take the one that offers the best interface. Maps are (almost) the same. The big difference in in Eastern Europe (especially Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia and Greece) where it's iGo or nothing
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People always forget about my little country... but still, iGo or nothing, fpr us that is... for the UK even google maps should suffice.

josephwaller said:
Hi,
I got the Orbit II the other day and it only has copilot. Are either of these "destinator and pocket navigator" free software. I'm in the UK, can you recomend one?
thanks,
Joe
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Hi,
I used the pocket navigator with the map for Cyprus, and Destinator for Greece. I only used tomtom for the UK. sorry

i have problem with my wifi .. i tried to connect to wlan and the status shows connected .. but i couldnt manage to surf over the internet .. what should i do ha? is there any setting, etc? .. i tried with IE and opera and both didnt work .

Mine kept saying it was connected but would not be able to access web pages randomly. I kept having to tap the wifi icon and go to the setup menu, then it would work again for a little while then stop again.
I had to adjust the powersaving options of the wifi to "optimal performance" instead of "battery saving" mode.
That fixed it.

edan said:
Mine kept saying it was connected but would not be able to access web pages randomly. I kept having to tap the wifi icon and go to the setup menu, then it would work again for a little while then stop again.
I had to adjust the powersaving options of the wifi to "optimal performance" instead of "battery saving" mode.
That fixed it.
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ok tq .. will try it later on .. .. other problem ..
how to disable word completion? i already did it in setting -> personal tab -> input -> word completion ... untick everything but still got that feature when typing msg.. ..
e.g, when i use on screen keyboard, let say i type game, there will be a few words suggested above of the keyboard .. how to disable that word suggestion? ..

how to change the prefix of camera? by default, it is IMAG .. want to change it to other .. is it possible?

guys ..
where to find the location of ringtone? I am looking for rintong capri (comes default with OS) ..

Mapping software?

I am looking for software+maps (preferably UK OS maps) for cross-country walking. Viewranger would be ideal if it worked on WM. I see memory-map and ozi-explorer have been mentioned here. Any preferences or other recommendations?

My recommendation would be for Memory Map. I've tried it in the past, and was very impressed, and know keen walkers who rely on it. I liked being able to plan a route and 'preview' it, print maps and then program the GPS (I was using an external GPS with a different PDA then).
I don't know OziExplorer, but it looks as if it does similar things. There's an interesting comparison of the two if you do a search - basically it finds that Ozi has the better desktop version, but Memory Map is the better Pocket PC version.
Hope this helps.

I use Quo from Mapyx
I originally tried Memory Map & Anquet, these being the main rivals to each other. I found that the Anquet WM program has issues, so from the start that ruled them out, Memory Map was good, but the cost for the maps was a lot more than Quo, with Quo you can buy single map 'tiles' which I found suited my needs vs cost better.
When using the using the maps I found MM was complicated by having a massively complicated (IMO) licensing system, only thing that was a plus for MM was the WM program was smoother than Quo, in that Quo refreshes the map each time after you move it manually (fine when tracking via GPS), while MM is a live map (think the way Opera goes blocky when you move around a page and has to update.)

Thanks for the feedback both of you. For cheapness, I have installed Quo and bought the minimum number of map tiles. However, although they are loaded seamlessly on the PC, it seems that they have to be manually switched on the mobile. Also, I don't see how to directly copy the original map tiles from PC to mobile. Smaller versions seem to be created when 'export' is selected. I have contacted their support.

I use Ozi Explorer CE with topo map my country, long time (since 2006 on Mio701, now HTC Topaz) and for me is best, because OziExplorerCE have many,many navigation options. Map your country (UK) can found (googled) on the net... But spend your time i found what interest you:
GB Topo 1:50 000 calibrated and prepared for direct using in Ozi Explorer (Your signature say you have capacity memory card):
GB Topo 1:50 000
Regards

i use Everytrail

Mike Austin said:
Thanks for the feedback both of you. For cheapness, I have installed Quo and bought the minimum number of map tiles. However, although they are loaded seamlessly on the PC, it seems that they have to be manually switched on the mobile. Also, I don't see how to directly copy the original map tiles from PC to mobile. Smaller versions seem to be created when 'export' is selected. I have contacted their support.
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I agree that it isn't the clearest concept the way they get you to transfer the maps to the mobile. The way I work is to treat the map(s) of the country as a master map (I've got both 25k & 50k maps) then create an 'Area' of the part of the country I want to send to my mobile, in which res I want or both (25k & 50k).
For example I went to the Peak District earlier this year, so brought 25k & 50k maps of the area (25k for where I know I would go, with the 50k for the general location) then I marked out an 'Area', this 'Area' excluded some places that the maps I had brought covered, but that I knew I would not be visiting so reducing the file size of the maps to be transfered.
I actually find this way makes a lot of sense as you don't have to worry about transferring brought tiles, but can just transfer the area you need, even if that area crosses two brought tiles.
The only other thing, is when you've got two types of map (25k & 50k) they both need to be transfered individually, and then on the mobile loaded individually, also unlike the desktop application the mobile app won't zoom through the different maps, you need to load up either the 25k OR the 50k.
Overall I am still very happy with it, I think some of the issues with the mobile app are down to having to cater for the limited power of some mobile devices.
I'm happy to give any help I can.
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The first image is with the country map on, showing my created 'Area',
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the second image is showing the same area but with the country map off, the pink areas are my brought tiles (3 large are 50k, 1 small is 25k), and the green line is my 'Area'

Steeve24 said:
The first image is with the country map on, showing my created 'Area', the second image is showing the same area but with the country map off, the pink areas are my brought tiles (3 large are 50k, 1 small is 25k), and the green line is my 'Area'
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Thanks for the tip. It seems that our areas cross. Maybe we will bump into each other while we are squinting at our screens instead of looking where we are going!

Tom Tom

Has any one got tom tom 7 working on their HD2?
I have version 6 & 7 (both legal) + the black cab but can't register my maps on versions 6 or the black cab because of previous installations. Is there a way around this
Also is there a way to get version 7 working?

I've TTM7 working on my Leo. It was already working on my TP2. I've put microSD card from TP2 to Leo, and directly makes a shortcut of tomtom.exe in my Leo's start menu.
Try to make a file transfer from a working installation to your Leo's microSD.

Tom tom
i had tom tom 7 on my hd2 but it made my device run very slugish and also had an error every time the phone was turned on. i reset my hd2 tried installing again but exactly the same happend. tt7 did load up tho and after changing the gps to com 4 it worked fine just didnt want a phone that was slower than my last one.

I have got TomTom_Navigator_7.916.9189_VGA working with v840 maps.
Works very good on HD2.
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tomtom7
I bought tomtom 7 when i had my diamond.... since then tomtom has been a pain as i have had to fax them proof of new mobiles only tofind that they do not support the new phone.
I have had to hack my maps which i paid for in order to get them to work...
i am going to give tomtom the goodbye for now(it works fine on my HD2) and use the co-pilot 8.. best £24,99 spent and easy to unlock to a new phone... TomTom take heed.

TomTom unlock
Well TT work great on my HTC HD2, to unlock tt is verry easy so keep it and unlock it myself.
Still tt don's support navigator 7 on the Leo but there is an workaround for it so tt kost me nothing more than what time too download the new maps
cheers mate
randalthor said:
I bought tomtom 7 when i had my diamond.... since then tomtom has been a pain as i have had to fax them proof of new mobiles only tofind that they do not support the new phone.
I have had to hack my maps which i paid for in order to get them to work...
i am going to give tomtom the goodbye for now(it works fine on my HD2) and use the co-pilot 8.. best £24,99 spent and easy to unlock to a new phone... TomTom take heed.
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thecrazydutchdiver said:
Well TT work great on my HTC HD2, to unlock tt is verry easy so keep it and unlock it myself.
Still tt don's support navigator 7 on the Leo but there is an workaround for it so tt kost me nothing more than what time too download the new maps
cheers mate
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Where can I find the unlock for TT7 & the workaround for the maps?

southG said:
Where can I find the unlock for TT7 & the workaround for the maps?
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Hi Southg,
I sent you a pm please get back to me as i can help you.
Matthew.

myearwood173 said:
Hi Southg,
I sent you a pm please get back to me as i can help you.
Matthew.
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Check your pm

TT7
I need help also....its becoming a pain in the backside

TomTom 7 sucks. It causes an error when you start your HTC and it does not work for me.
I Can't find any proper sollution.

Mister Lava said:
TomTom 7 sucks. It causes an error when you start your HTC and it does not work for me.
I Can't find any proper sollution.
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TomTom doesn't suck. You just need to search for the solution. It's all over this board and if you can't find it then you are not looking very hard. It has to do with the Bluetooth stuff it replaces. You just need to delete one or two files and reboot. Now do your homework and use the search.

Tomtom works fine....besides the BT issue, Can I assume people with problems may be installing to the device and not the SD card ?

GPS bluetooth Dongle

After trying every rom, modem and so on and so on... i got damn sick of it and went to the store and grabbed myself an Blue-GPS-S3 with SIRSTAR III supporting 20 channels...
You know.. the difference of gps quality is shocking. 12 sattelites at good performance and unbelievably stable. Navigation for four hours straight and not ONE mistake or recalculating required... amazing.
My advise is... get one for those 20 euros and stop wasting your time on trying to get your gps to work.. cause on top of this.. using bluetooth uses less battery then using internal gps asfar i noticed.
Hope this helps someone making this step, you do lose being able to see gps status in navigations progs but Sygic Aura + CoPilot worked flawless, il make an list of working apps
[update]
Okay drove over 800km in two days and what a trip and for once.... yes for once i didnt feel stressed about my galaxy abandoning me somewhere, altought i must admit my gps has not the greatest name and reputation it did its work excellent no matter where i came.
Some info.
APPS:
Bluetooth GPS mouse = GREAT. worked flawless with my external GPS
Bluetooth GPS Provider i didnt have a chance to test with yet, i will soon and report about it. One thing i must add, it remembers your dongle/mouse/external gps and with its simple ugly widget you can quickly turn it on and let it connect with the dongle. unlike gps mouse you gotta open it and turn it on and choose dongle.
NAVIGATION:
Sygic Aura = working great, it was however required to switch GPS on first and wait 15-30 sec to make sure it had atleast 1 signal before starting aura navigation, else it wouldnt pick up the signal
CoPilot = just awesome, worked directly wether i loaded gps mouse after or before.
Google Navigation = no idea, I assume it works as google maps works to with it.
Waze = no idea, I still have to try it but as waze worked most flawless on internal gps i assume no problems at all with external gps
KNOWN PROBLEMS
Programs do not see the GPS status.. signal, altitude etc etc. weirdly enough the navigations work flawless and they do not complain about having no signal either.
SHOPS:
My shop does only send in the netherlands, however... mine is a Qtrek Blue GPS-S3 with a SIRFSTARIII chip. Basicly ANY bluetooth gps mouse works with your phone.

could you please give me a link to where you bought the item?
I've looked, but couldn't find cheap ones..

i got a co-pilot bluetooth gps unit £8 from amazon and its great. a bit tricky to set up but well worth it.

re
800km in two days.. man am i exausted but what the heck.. that thing works briljant! il update first post with info

Cheers. This is great to know. Too bad Amazon UK has horrible bluetooth GPS seller reputation. I will have to find one on ebay instead.

I use the Nokia LD-3W gps module and it is fantastic. Easy to set up (takes seconds). I use the bluetooth mouse with "bluetooth GPS provider" which is a free download from the market. Very accurate with google maps, copilot etc.
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sean2476 said:
I use the Nokia LD-3W gps module and it is fantastic. Easy to set up (takes seconds). I use the bluetooth mouse with "bluetooth GPS provider" which is a free download from the market. Very accurate with google maps, copilot etc.
Bluetooth GPS provider/ market
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Where did you buy this from? Amazon UK?

is it really helpful to use usb bluttooth

re
Im using bluetooth gps now as its free and works great however it said that Sygic Aura wouldnt work due it doesnt support mock locations... bummer as its the best gps out there. however the Bluetooth gps mouse app does work with it but then again i noticed that application turns on internal gps... not sure wether it fakes that or actually turns on internal gps... guess only one way to find out. wait for a next trip