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Question after BigStorage...

I've done the big storage patch on my Magician. And I understand that if you restore files from a backup made when one didn't have big storage, one is likely to have just wasted time on the patching as the file structure would revert back over-writing some (hex?) values, with the possibility of losing access to the Storage folder completly.
So here's my question. would it work both ways? Say I re-flash my Magician with the ROM it came with, and that I have a backup from a ROM that has the BigStorage patch, and then restore from that backup, what would happen? Will the backup from BigStorage ROM override the shipped ROM's file structure? Or will it just mess things up?
I realize that this may seem pointless to most users. But I am missing a registry key for a Bluetooth function (syncing via Bluetooth, and I think it's just one key...). Let's just say I don't have the guts to re-flash my Magician two more times (back to shipped ROM, get what I need, then to BS ROM) given the risk posted above.
Could anyone shed some light on my question?
Thanks

Don't know what kind of backup you're referring too. Is it a rom-backup then yes you're reverting to normal storage. With a RAM data backup you're not going to write to ROM & cannot change the addresses you mention.
Did you load the BT patch ext-rom cab after the boot or do you have plain WM2003Se now?
My advice: load the cabs with patches from your ext-rom.
M

Oh sorry, I forgot to mention that but i think you answered my question. Suppose I made a backup (with the BS ROM) using Sprite software, and I re-flash my Magician with the shipped ROM that I backed up, and restore from the Sprite backup, what would happen? And given your answer, I'm supposed to expect that the Sprite backup is not capable of changing the addresses, right? So then I'd have the BS registry settings, shortcuts, and blahblahs, but only 7.6MB useable memory in the Storage folder?
To answer your question, yes I did load the CAB files I needed from the ExtRom including BTHUSB_PATCH_AKU26.CAB (which I think is for Bluetooth?) but to no avail, as I've lost the capability to sync using Bluetooth ever since I did the BS patch. I even loaded that CAB file a second time just in case, but still to no avail. (Note that the hardware works though. I can make a device pairing and all that...)
I'm trying to avoid re-flashing my Magician twice just to get that registry key as that would be my last resort. Hahahaha
In any case, here's a list of the CAB files I loaded, if it matters.
Band_Select_Enable.sa.CAB
BTHUSB_PATCH_AKU26.CAB
CAB-ArcsoftMMS-2.0.022-Magician-O2Asia-ENU-21Mar05.CAB
CAB-Customization-Magician-O2AsiaWWE-31Jan05.sa.CAB
Caller_ID_Magician_Generic_WWE_RC13.CAB
CameraWizard_O2Asia_Customize.CAB
CV2.41.386_wwe.CAB
default_103133.sa.CAB
DelAddStarMenu_092404.sa.CAB
DialerSkin_Landscap_091104.sa.CAB
DialerSkin_Portrait_091104.sa.CAB
Fix_dual_SIM.sa.CAB
JMM101257_wwe_1004.CAB
O2_Base_v103116.sa.CAB
O2_Default_103133.sa.CAB
O2Auto.sa.CAB
PhonePad_Magician_Generic_WWE_RC12.CAB
SmartDialing_Magician_Generic_WWE_RC13.CAB
Version_WWE_111922.sa.CAB
Including 2 CAB files for my service provider. Is there anything else that I could have missed? I used the config.txt in the ExtRom folder as basis for the CAB files to install.
PS: I'm not quite sure what you meant by 'patches' from my ExtRom...

With the 'patches' I meant some of the cabs you installed from the ext-rom, eg for BlueTooth, battery & camera.
I'm only using usb for syncing, so I'm unable to confirm BT sync works for me, no BT hardware on my PC. Still you got a strange prob. Did you try a hard-reset & are you using the latest Sprite version?
M

I've done one hard-reset a week after I flashed my Magician with the BS ROM so that I could test a previous Sprite backup (Sprite ver 3.2 if that helps), since I was just curious as to if the backup would fully restore everything [and it did btw].
Curious, what would the latest/lower version of Sprite backup have to do with my problem?

With previous versions I sometimes got notifications that the registry backup/restore wasn't fully successful.
Sprite will restore all RAM data & the \Storage data not the size, so you could end up with a partial restore when you try to restore > 7MB to the standard \Storage folder.
Did you check all Act.Sync settings on your Magician, guess you probably did a 1000 times?
Regards, M

Yes I did check all the Async options on my Magician. I did run into a problem regarding Bluetooth with the Magician's Async and speculated that I was missing a registry key. Check out the post I made here regarding that http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50937.
After getting boh113's registry file, the `Bluetooth option came back but still wouldn't work. So I'm assuming that the addresses don't match with my Magician.
I gave it some thought and the only way I came up with to get back the Bluetooth functionality was this:
1) re-flash my unit with the ROM it was shipped with
2) deal with the \Storage folder problem if any
3) extract the whole bare registry
4) re-flash my unit with the BS ROM
5) merge the extracted registry (I'm not sure if this'll cause unforeseen problems)
6) pray
hahahahaha! Hopefully I'd get back Bluetooth syncing. Of course I'd try to avoid doing this as this would be my last resort. I will most likely need a whole day for this, and I doubt I can do that this week. Might try next week if I put up enough guts.
I MIGHT be missing some DLL files in \Windows although I doubt that. But it's still a possibility..
I do have one more question.
I assume I did the following successfully since my Magician works:
a. shipped ROM backup + dumping
b. hex-editing on the shipped ROM to make it a BS ROM
c. flashing with BS ROM
So here's my question, though I see it to be silly. Would it be safe to re-flash my unit with the BS ROM (that I patched) instead of doing it again from scratch (i.e. the 6-step procedure I listed)? My unit will still have the 20+MB \Storage folder right?

[REF]Wiki entry: HOWTO - Backup your Elf or Elfin ROM - dump and restore

Edit:
moved the HOWTO to the Wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom
feel free to update/correct the Wiki if you find failures, bugs or updates
It worked for me - but I cannot guarantee that you don't brick your Touch.
So be warned.
Thanks to dsixda for updating the Wiki for Elfin
MOD EDIT: See this post in case the Wiki is not working:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7662245&postcount=214

Will ruu_signed.nbh be suitable for traditional chinese?

Works perfect for me, now a way to rebuild my os with les software

With this method can someone build a french custumized ROM like the 62MB+ and 4MB PagePool one ?? It will be awesome !! Nice work r0p3!! It's workiiiiiiiiiiiiing !!

Works fine for me, thanks for the good guide
Greetings Denis

Now ... How to modify it ??
P.S : Can I include the extRom when i build the ROM with the OS?

I got my work cut out this week.
I'll try this big Up
(it's a bit more clearer then wiki info, maybe you can update it)

Noonski said:
I got my work cut out this week.
I'll try this big Up
(it's a bit more clearer then wiki info, maybe you can update it)
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Wiki updated:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom

r0p3 said:
Wiki updated:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom
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Can I dump my touch with all installed programs, cooking a complete rom including installed programs?

No - that's not possible I Think.
But you can use sprite backup.
It worked perfectly for me when I flashed the ROM back.
But keep in mind that it only will work correctly on the same language of the ROMs.

r0p3 said:
No - that's not possible I Think.
But you can use sprite backup.
It worked perfectly for me when I flashed the ROM back.
But keep in mind that it only will work correctly on the same language of the ROMs.
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I have Sprite Backup, but after flashing the device with the same rom, the restore didn't work, so I had to install the programs again.

eefurt said:
I have Sprite Backup, but after flashing the device with the same rom, the restore didn't work, so I had to install the programs again.
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Here is a trick I have used for quite some times with Sprite Backup 5.1
Sprite Backup version 5.1, version 6.02 is more fancy, 5.1 is good enough.
1. Do a full backup, make sure option Create Self Extract Exec
2. Hard reset (optional)
3. Flash new ROM
4. Run the backup file, make sure the Upgrade Mode Restore Option is Check.
5. Kneel down and pray (optional, or take a cup of coffee).
SKtools is handy.
Step 4 is most important. When it asks you for the upgrade fine, Click None. Minor cleanup unavoidable but heck a lot better than of re-install all the softwares.
Sometimes you may find the machine run slugglish by doing that. I am not sure why.
You may flash the new ROM, re-install all the softwares, see if the machine run faster, but few days later, you will feel it run slugglish. I am not sure why. (The laptop runs runs much faster than once I bought it and take it home and installed with applications.)
So I just keep buying new machines... hahaha

holy moly.
going great at 10% of flashing.
but i feel confident the tute was on the spot.
muchos gracias.
And yes you are right (you didn't say it but you must have thought it), I could have added it myself to WIKI. But just had to try it myself first off course.
And am i right in believing i could have allready replaced some of the graphical files in the dumped "ROM" directory?
Or is it to dangerous at this change because the file size needs to fit?
92%
100%,... first boot screen passed........second boot screen passed....
The audience is in Awe. It works.
Next step, getting familiar with hypercore kitchen.

Thanks for this tutorial.
Now i can safely backup my Dutch rom and test some custom ****..
Regards,
Schmia

And am i right in believing i could have allready replaced some of the graphical files in the dumped "ROM" directory?
Or is it to dangerous at this change because the file size needs to fit?
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Do NOT change files in the dump directory without proper tools!!!
You will mess up the ROM
When you have a look at the dump directory there are some info files with data for the places in the ROM which need to be recalculated.
Noonski said:
holy moly.
going great at 10% of flashing.
but i feel confident the tute was on the spot.
muchos gracias.
And yes you are right (you didn't say it but you must have thought it), I could have added it myself to WIKI. But just had to try it myself first off course.
92%
100%,... first boot screen passed........second boot screen passed....
The audience is in Awe. It works.
Next step, getting familiar with hypercore kitchen.
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Thanks! I'm happy that it worked - nice feeling - eh?

Dumping Elf WM6 Italian version ROM
Before trying to put new Rom images, i would like to backup the original one.
I followed the (simply) tutorial, but i'm confused about this step:
"need the ruu_signed.nbh from valid update (extract with winrar)"
Which file do I need?
I don't understand why I need a valid ROM when I'm trying to dump a Rom from my Elf
Can I use an other language ROM version (English, Dutch....) or is needed only an Italian one?
Thx in adv and sorry for my poor english
Ciauz

junkyarddog said:
Before trying to put new Rom images, i would like to backup the original one.
I followed the (simply) tutorial, but i'm confused about this step:
"need the ruu_signed.nbh from valid update (extract with winrar)"
Which file do I need?
I don't understand why I need a valid ROM when I'm trying to dump a Rom from my Elf
Can I use an other language ROM version (English, Dutch....) or is needed only an Italian one?
Thx in adv and sorry for my poor english
Ciauz
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you need this as a "shell" or "template" because the .nbh files are made in a way that cannot be recontructed (so far I understand - correct me if I'm wrong).
And yes you can use an ROM with another language. I took the Australian ROM - look at the first paragraph "files you need"
This is usually a .exe file that you can extract with winrar (or winzip maybe)
P.S.: your english is not so bad

r0p3 said:
you need this as a "shell" or "template" because the .nbh files are made in a way that cannot be recontructed (so far I understand - correct me if I'm wrong).
And yes you can use an ROM with another language. I took the Australian ROM - look at the first paragraph "files you need"
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Thx very much!!!
All worked fine, flashing the "new" dumped rom worked perfectly, I'll put it on FTP to make it avaiable to other users.
Ciao

r0p3 said:
Do NOT change files in the dump directory without proper tools!!!
You will mess up the ROM
When you have a look at the dump directory there are some info files with data for the places in the ROM which need to be recalculated.
Thanks! I'm happy that it worked - nice feeling - eh?
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Pfew thanks, nice knowing this. Iwas allready worried that it would need correct file info.
junkyarddog said:
Thx very much!!!
All worked fine, flashing the "new" dumped rom worked perfectly, I'll put it on FTP to make it avaiable to other users.
Ciao
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Don't upload to XDA. I've seen some directories with full roms on FTP. But this is no longer allowed and files will be deleted.
XDA's allready been in trouble with MS about this. So either use third party file sharing or privatly owned FTP.
r0p3..
So to get the radio and SPL do i need to redo first extraction but then for these files? Or are these IPL/SPL?
| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00
| 3.06M (0x310000) Part01

Noonski said:
r0p3..
So to get the radio and SPL do i need to redo first extraction but then for these files? Or are these IPL/SPL?
| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00
| 3.06M (0x310000) Part01
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I don't know yet - I still have to dig in the wiki about that.
It's very dangerous in this area - if you mess up IPL or SPL your baby is usually lost forever. I don't mind about those as long pof's USPL works beautiful.
Radio might be not so critical. But 2.97. is already available - so it would only be for the fun of it

Dopod and re-flashing help please!!

Hi, I have 3 questions:
1) I've looked around a lot, but can't seem to catch hold of a chinese language for my vox...Its called Dopod rom right?? Where can I get the files and instructions??
2) Does a ROM (when dumped) contain absolutely everything that is on the phone and if flashed on another phone will be a "duplicate" of original phone??
3) I've found the wiki on how to dump my rom, but how would I be able to re-flash it onto another phone??
Thanks guys

Wow somebody who actually read the Wiki before posting - nice
1.It's on the ftp. But look at the stuff that is written in the Wiki, about no Wifi and so on.
2.Nope it isn't it's only the operating system and all the software that comes with it! So no contacts or appointments or other files you put on. When you do a hard reset, you would see what all comes with the ROM! (but don't do it, it'll wipe all your data)!
3.You would have to put it into the kitchen and try to cook a new ROM out of the dump, but look around on the ftp first, there are a lot of shipped ROMs, yours is probably there too!

I can't seem to locate the Dopod wiki... But are there ANY ROMs that can handle chinese text without sacrificing the wifi function??
In terms of the shipped ROMs folder - I couldnt find my one and besides, I'd like to have one with all my programs on. So where can I find easy to follow (I'm a newbie on all this) instructions on cooking and creating a ROM??
(Is this thread the right one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066 ) ???
Thanks for your help

Backing up Curent ROM -- NEED REPLY ASAP

Hi
I have a motorola Q9h with WM standard 6.0 OS and i want to upgrade it to 6.1 . I have everything that is necessary to upgrade it .....But first i want to back up my current ROM so that i can downgrade if in case i find any problems with WM 6.1 . I have searched a lot of forums but no use .....I really want to know if there is any way possible to back up the current ROM of my phone If any so pls give me the links to the method or software or pls explain in detail ..Pls reply as soon as possible ...

As we dedicate here only to HTC devices you won´t get too much attention.
better try here:
http://modmymoto.com/forums/
Good luck,

HI Orb
I have tried several other forums regarding the back up current ROM but all these forums only focus on upgrading ...ther's not even a single thread on backing up Rom ...Since ppl here on XDA r more techy .....i choose to post a question here too...I hope ther is atleast one here u can answer ...Since ur a senior member i also request you to let the other senior members in XDA about my query
regards
Joel

PIM Backup (free app) will do exactly that and backup messages, emails, sms, contacts, calender but not system settings, programs.
For that you will need something like sprite backup etc (paid app).
Of course, if you had a downloaded copy of your stock rom, all you need is the program cabs, and you will always get your programs back

timmymarsh said:
PIM Backup (free app) will do exactly that and backup messages, emails, sms, contacts, calender but not system settings, programs.
For that you will need something like sprite backup etc (paid app).
Of course, if you had a downloaded copy of your stock rom, all you need is the program cabs, and you will always get your programs back
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Does Sprite backup lets you backup your stock ROM??

ROM BACK UP -- Not pim and other info
Hi timmymarsh
I want to back my ROM( not my contacts settings etc)
Anyways i found a program prodcread here which is in itsutilsbin for dumping ROM but i am stuck with this error when i am trying to verify the partition sizes
real nr of sectors: 1 - 512.00byte, 0x200
can u help me with that ??

[Release] [Kitchen] - SuperJustKitchen v0.9 - Engage!

SuperJustKitchen v0.9 Released.
Go to my site: http://justkitchen.info to get the updates and the info. It takes to long to update every device's forum that is supported, and I plan to support all devices, eventually.
Word of warning:
Not all EXT's have been tested or modified for the every device. Please test test and test and then let me know which packages don't work and what YOU've done to fix them. (I don't have time to fix ALL of them by myself.) Some packages will only be compatible with some devices.
(I'm no longer updating each thread separately for each device but just updating my site and posting the release info here. I will only update each thread to say that a new version is out.)
**Warning**
Before using this kitchen, you MUST read the whole thread. Any questions that have been answered will be ignored. This is your only warning.
**Disclaimer**
I am not responsible for any damage that may be done to your phone with a ROM created in this kitchen.
I am not responsible for any damage done to your computer.
I am not responsible for anything... at all.
Introducing SuperJustKitchen!
​ SuperJustKitchen is based on [http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=843218"]airxtreme[/URL]'s osKitchen Zero. All credit on for the kitchen backend goes to him.
Features
A completely stripped ROM. (Work in progress for some devices.)
LZX and XPR compression (Also option for No compression.)
Auto clean files that are language specific or DPI specific that your ROM does not need
Auto port missing language MUI files
Automatic rec'loc'ing for devices without native 6.5 nk's
6.1 and 6.5 support
Auto XIP and SYS porting
Auto NBH packing
Tool to convert OEM packages to EXT packages
Auto file conflict fix (don't have to removing older file that conflict (not that there are any. )
Save custom ROM settings (for cooks for multiple ROMs)
Cook multiple languages at the same time with the same ROM settings (Have to add language support yourself. I removed the required MUI's a while back because they made updating the kitchen and adding devices a nightmare.)
MUCH better organization of EXT packages
Active development instead of a program that is no longer being developed
Cleaner and easier to use interface
A built-in and customizable Tutorial section
And more!
Builds included
21056 - WM6.1
23658 - WM6.5 with new redesigned GUI
​
At the moment, this is an ENGLISH (WWE) only kitchen. This might change...
NOTE: In order for me to keep track of whether my time was well spent or wasted, if you use this kitchen to make a ROM, please either include SJK in the name or just mention that it was SJK cooked in your ROM's thread.
NOTE: This kitchen assumes that you know how to flash through SD, recover from a bad flash and are able to backtrack your steps to figure out how you broke your own ROM. If you do not understand these, please learn them first. Do not PM me asking me. I have written numerous walkthroughs on all these except on how to backtrack your steps. For that, just remember what you're doing as you do it and keep backups.
If you find any issues, PLEASE report them to the bug tracker in my website. It will help me make this kitchen better!
ENJOY!!!​

COOL......

Kwel, great booster for new chefs..!!!

error..error....

The elf/elfin side is untested (as I didn't have a tester for it) so let me know if you run into any problems.
Please also post any problems in my bug tracker on my site. Thank you

ivanmmj said:
The elf/elfin side is untested (as I didn't have a tester for it) so let me know if you run into any problems.
Please also post any problems in my bug tracker on my site. Thank you
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already posted to ur site.....

saurabh88 said:
already posted to ur site.....
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Please use the bug tracker. (It's one of the links on the site on the left hand side.)
But for now:
ok fine..in windows 7 when i cooked for elfin everythings work fine when i havent include any ext packages... it buikd .nbh but there is update 270error.. ok lets take another look..when i had included most of the ext packsges for first foyr times it gives me oskitchen not responding..after sometime succed in making.nbh file but same 270pdate error..... so what is probleml?... ok if u can plz add function of adding multiple or all ext packages...i have to do it manually.. i think it is promising kitchen but wait...
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Are you HardSPL'd? If so, do you have the file size limit removed? Also, don't include most of the packages. Your device only has so much space. You're not supposed to include that many programs.

ivanmmj said:
Please use the bug tracker. (It's one of the links on the site on the left hand side.)
But for now:
Are you HardSPL'd? If so, do you have the file size limit removed? Also, don't include most of the packages. Your device only has so much space. You're not supposed to include that many programs.
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hspl 3.10cmnox...
yes i had remove the file size limit...
file size wa 89mb....
i registered in ur site...ok...

ivanmmj said:
Please use the bug tracker. (It's one of the links on the site on the left hand side.)
But for now:
Are you HardSPL'd? If so, do you have the file size limit removed? Also, don't include most of the packages. Your device only has so much space. You're not supposed to include that many programs.
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hspl 3.10cmnox...
yes i had remove the file size limit...
file size wa 89mb....
i registered in ur site...ok...but when i go to bug tracker it says helllo guest..i also activate my a.c. but no use..
tried by two gmail &yahoo id but .....

saurabh88 said:
hspl 3.10cmnox...
yes i had remove the file size limit...
file size wa 89mb....
i registered in ur site...ok...but when i go to bug tracker it says helllo guest..i also activate my a.c. but no use..
tried by two gmail &yahoo id but .....
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It shows that you are registered twice and are activated on both accounts.
I do not have the ability to see passwords. IM me one of the usernames and passwords that you used so I can troubleshoot.
As far as the ROM goes:
If you have an elf, that file size is massive. Remember that the limit only removes the lower limit of a 50mb requirement. The elf doesn't have much space. Do not enable so many things. If you must have all those things, at least enable LZX compression and EXT-UPX compression.

ivanmmj said:
It shows that you are registered twice and are activated on both accounts.
I do not have the ability to see passwords. IM me one of the usernames and passwords that you used so I can troubleshoot.
As far as the ROM goes:
If you have an elf, that file size is massive. Remember that the limit only removes the lower limit of a 50mb requirement. The elf doesn't have much space. Do not enable so many things. If you must have all those things, at least enable LZX compression and EXT-UPX compression.
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i have elfin.....
i had use lzx method....

no one try this?
plz report bugs lol....we got new to try?????

I tried - and already reported into BTS. Corrupted image is reported by RUU everytime I try to flash, does not matter which OS or settings I use. fully unlocked elfin, ipl&spl 3.10

nocturne said:
I tried - and already reported into BTS. Corrupted image is reported by RUU everytime I try to flash, does not matter which OS or settings I use. fully unlocked elfin, ipl&spl 3.10
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same problem...
even friend of mine from opal have same problem..
dont know y this happen?
wait for the owners.

Looks like there is a corruption somewhere in the kitchen. It is affecting every device. I think it has to do with the executable I changed last minute before updating the kitchen. I'll check myself on my computer.

any update yet?

I've been home sick with the flu so I haven't even touched my computer since. I will let you know more tomorrow. I should get some time to work on it, then.

Get well soon! We are awaiting yout kitchen, seems to be really nice once finished

ivanmmj said:
I've been home sick with the flu so I haven't even touched my computer since. I will let you know more tomorrow. I should get some time to work on it, then.
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oh sorry to here...get well soon.
i m very eager to try this new kitchen...

Thanks guys.
Do me a favor.
Go to your sources folder and delete the "_Compress" folder then try to cook and flash a ROM. If it works, then that was the problem all along... he moved the folder to another location but the kitchen still reads both.)