First Hand Experience of TC in London Today - Touch Cruise General

Today, I went to INKINO's shop at Tottenham Court Road, where thay have got a Touch Cruise available for testing. Fell in love on first sight. Design, size, weight and not to mention the gorgeous flushed screen and smooooooth touch flo experience. Only thing I didn't like was the silver faceplate at the bottom where buttons are. Screen surrounding is glossy, more as greyish but depends on light, however thr bottom is definitely silver which looks off. On contrary to the pics on web, even the scroll wheel is silver not black as shown on expansys. I hop this was pre-production sample model and actual will be black and better etched. Otherwise, functionality is great, very fast and even video playback was not as bad as some people say it is. Album is coooool.
Overall, worth replacing Kaiser with Touch Cruise means sacrificing keyboard for less weight and style
However, today's adventure was overshadowed when I cam home and checked on the internet that expected delivery now on expansys is 9th Feb...
So I guess we will be just talking about TC and looking online for a while as owning one in UK is a bit impossible in near future.

Sorry man, I'm so ticked off to say anything.
Gutted.

cool! will go and have a look tomorrow. did they know when they'd be expecting their first shipment?

I ordered in the U.S,(pre-order)and their saying anytime from end of Jan on thru Feb, depending on which shipment your in line for. Prioritized ya know. Gotta just try and forget about it. It'll happen when it happens.

I feel for you guys
Being one of the lucky few who got his device in December (but was waiting for months before that as well ) I can say it's worth the wait.
Still crap that you guys have to wait to long. Let's hope this is the last time everybody has to wait for the damned thing!

ebay is your friend.
i found one for 630 shipped.

As per yesterday, at the shop itself they were saying expected 18th Jan or next Tuesday i.e,. 22nd. But by then expansys hadn't changed there dates. Not sure if INKINO gets it from the same supplier as expansys then they would have changed their dates as well.....

Expansys always do this, keep people on a waiting game. I had to go through the same crap with the when I wanted to buy the Dell Axim, they kept moving the dates further and further until it became obvious they didn't know themselves and just wanted to keep us attached to them.

About the scrollwheel color: it's a bit darker grey, but definitely not black (in the final non test-version). Sorry

I went in yesterday. It's very low key, the Touch Cruise was just lying on the counter when I went in there. The staff behind the counter were pretty friendly and talkative. I learned some stuff that I'll post in the UK Availability thread in a minute.
Regarding the device, it was much as I expected, but then I'd done so much research and had an Artemis before so I didn't expect many surprises. I suppose the only things to mention are:
The Neutral/Bad
1) I was hoping to be won over by the styling when I saw it in real life but I wasn't. That doesn't mean that I hate it either, it wasn't any worse than I was hoping, it just wasn't any better either. Then again, I suspect this is a pre-release unit and might not be 100% representative of the actual manufactured unit so who knows.
2) It really did pick up fingerprints on the screen very badly. Then again, it didn't have a screen protector on it so that might help. I don't think there's really much HTC or anyone can do about this, if your going to be dragging your fingers across a transparent smooth surface then it will get grubby.
The Good
1) From the reviews, and playing with a TouchCube clone on my Artemis in the past, I'd pretty much decided to disable the TouchCube and TouchFlo scrolling when I got the device. After playing with the real HTC implementation on the TC I liked it and now plan to leave it on, especially now that this forum has exposed the registry settings to customise the cube.
2) I thought I might miss the trackball from the Artemis (I liked it) but after playing with the Dpad, once I got my brain to remember that it is now a conventional clickable Dpad as well as a scroll wheel, I really liked it and think I will find it more useful than the old Artemis trackball.
Finally, some general notes about Inkino (the shop):
1) If anyone goes there then don't be confused (I was). The address of 48 Tottenham Court Road that they have on their web site is correct but, for some reason, the sign outside the shop actually says "Sunrise Digital" (their other shop on Great Russell Street does have an Inkino sign but that's not where the TC is).
2) If anyone is ever in a hurry for accessories then they sell Brando screen protectors (but not for the TC yet) and also some other accessories, e.g. the official HTC 3.5mm headphone adaptor.
Their pricing isn't really competitive with the cheapest on the internet but if you're in London and willing to spend a slight premium for the "I want it now" factor then it looks a decent place to get it. They didn't come across as obnoxious and high pressure as some of the TCR places and actually seemed pretty enthusiastic and knowledgeable about the products.
- Julian

Great, I was waiting, for something like this before my final decision.
Thanks mate

Myself and my mate Mark [Dark Fire] we're heading down there tomorrow probably. He got his touch 128 rom there on its first day i think. We just want to go look at the cruise lol.. not buy, neither of has enough money i think. Did you think the shop was kindof dingy?, i think i've been ther, because i recall in june only seeing one shop with an athena, and that was sitting on top of the desk, and it may well have been inkino [I was looking all down TCR for TV's.
Rory

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touch cruise unboxing

Can anyone point me in the right direction for an unboxing movie.... or list the box contence.
Mine is coming on Monday but I just can’t wait.
To be entirely honest I still can't believe that "apparently many people SAY" they have one and yet I can't find an unboxing video for it.
http://www.msmobilenews.com/windows-mobile/reviews/htc-touch-cruise-review.html
There seems to be an unboxing but this (I’m hoping) is the demo pre-release version I’m guessing the massive tell - tell sign being the hole on the back.
I've recorded my box on video. It's being processed by YouTube right now, title "HTC Touch Cruise Unboxing". It was taken with my own TC, two things to note: it's obviously the unboxing "preview" you wanted, and you can also see the awful frame rate on this thing...
Oh yeah, never mind what I'm saying, just blabbering
It’s alright mate, thanks. its much appreciated.
btw can you quickly list the contense of the actually retail unboxing? And if possible the link to your you tube video?
Thank you.
YouTube video just in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuM_-yalUpo
It's actually just a preview of the box, not so much to see.
Contents:
The HTC Touch Cruise itself
Good manual
Screen protector
Small pouch + extra stylus
Battery
Charger
USB Cable
2 CD's (1 for extra software like TomTom, 1 for drivers and Windows moblie and such (I guess, didn't check really))
Quick Start guide
Some extra flyers (some from HTC, TomTom, local resellers)
I think that pretty much sums it up
Ok cool, thank you so much. if u were a woman and in front of me I would have no problems in hugging you with glee lol.
I was really just hooked about the case, well more like slightly worried as all the other touch devices have a case of some sort.
Anyway if it is not too much trouble is the case like the one from the first touch or the one from the touch dual.
Once again, Thank you.
I’ve just seen it. Thank you so much it was only 44 seconds but now I REALLY can't wait until Monday.
I have no clue whether it resembles the Touch (Dual) boxes.
You're welcome, and I'm NOT a woman, so a pat on the shoulder should suffice
I understand how it feels having to wait for the ultimate package Been there lately
Trust me, it's worth waiting for, especially if HTC is going to release the GPU drivers, then the speed thing would be solved too...
lol well a pat it is then...
ive had to put up with the eten glofiish x800 it s was OK and that about it. good screen.
i meant case as in its protective pouch btw but ive seen a few pics now. unless the one i saw was an after market one.
anyway thank you so much you've provided a real service
really have made my day
once again thanks.
You're welcome. The pouch is nothing compared to what you see online, its just a bag with a strap at the top to close it, like a garbage bag, but then smaller, containing your TC and in soft tissue
Sorry to hear bout the X800, I wonder where everyone gets the money to buy *multiple* pda's... (and phone and gps i know )
Meh. Well the x800 was a bit on an experiment for the IT department I work in. unheard of going for something so untested but someone has got to test it. I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes that made them say "I want my employees to work with sheer crap" but it happened, anyway I'm giving it back soon, like I said it was ok, a bit like paper, you use it every day but you never truly take any notice of it.
Ye as I suspected the one I saw was an aftermarket one, looks like HTC just took it off the touch dual. It’s slightly disappointing I was looking to have a rubberized case like the one from the touch.
Yeah, unfortunately, the TC comes shipped with a very limited set of accesoiries, in contrast with previous devices, for that price!!
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Yeah, unfortunately, the TC comes shipped with a very limited set of accessories, in contrast with previous devices, for that price!!
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You’re absolutely right and it’s appalling.
I know it’s a really good device but I still feel like for my money there should be more production value.
Oh and Tracy and matt's blog has now got an unboxing of the pre-release version... it seems funny that it only comes out now as people are receiving their devices.

Avoid iMate in the UK - Their customer service is crap

Hi,
I posted the following message (which is all true btw!) to iMAtes offical forum yesterday, and they censored it (by removing the thread). Since then, the promised callback from sbe (their UK repair center) failed to materalize.
I think the WM community deserves to know what level of service they can expect if they are silly enough to purchase a iMate device.
george
Hi,
I bought a 9502 on release day from Clove, for around £500. It lasted all of 2 and a half months, before the buttons stopped working. Clove recommended sending it to sbe limited for repair, which I did, 3 weeks ago.
Firstly, they tried to quote me £150 for the repair. I emailed them, and got no response after a week.
So I phoned them, and was told that it would be repaired for free, and be back within a week.
Ive now waited 3 weeks, during which I sent sbe 3 more emails, all of which have been completely ignored.
I phoned them up today, and after being on hold for 25 minutes, they finally answered, and said they are awaiting parts, and will call be back with more info... I will post here if they do, but I doubt they will!
They told me they have a massive backlog of emails to get through - thats a shame for them, but its not good enough for iMate to be successfull in this market.
Ive since bought a HTC Touch Pro, and, guess what? it works...
I will never buy another iMate device again, and i suggest noone else does either.
The device itself doesnt work very well at all (keeps hanging, slow, reminds me of the failed toshiba g900, but not QUITE as bad as the tosh). The Touch Pro, despite being practically the same chipset, works very very well in comparasion.
On the iMate ultiamte, the old Windows Mobile problem that it cannot keep up with my typing occurs. I have to literally tap one key, wait for it to respond, and then tap the next key and so on. The Touch Pro has the innovation of a keyboard buffer - if it cant keep up, it remembers what I typed, and processes the keys when it can.
We were also promised an official WM61 update in august... suprise suprise, that hasnt happened either.
The battery life is also crap compared to the Touch Pro (even though the iMate has a higher capacity battery). I put this down to lack of graphics accelleration on the iMate - you can literally see it struggle to redraw the home screen, whereas on the touch pro, it just happens instantly.
If you want any support at all on your phone DO NOT BUY IMATE. They are obviously too small a company to offer proper support (disclaimer - ive never had to use HTC's support, because their devices work, so I cannot comment on it, but I doubt the networks would let them get away with this poor level of support).
I will post an update tommorow (or before if SBE actually bother to ring back).
Does anyone have an email address for iMate themselves, so I can complain about sbe - surely iMate will want to know their reputation is being trashed be SBE??? their web page doesnt seem to offer any email address (a good way to keep pesky customers off their backs i guess), and their live support is only available for a couple of hours in the morning - i will try it tommorow).
A mobile phone is only valuable for 12 months IMHO (as I replace mine every year), so I have lost at least 1/12 of the value of the iMate, just by not having it for this time.
Even if the repair is slow, a good start would be to use a repair company that actually has the staff / resources to answer emails / phones. I dont feel like a valued customer.
ps. IMate - if you delete this forum message, I will make it my business to post it on as many mobile phone related forums as possible (modaco, xda developers etc).
/disappointed
george
that sounds a bit rubbish mate and i'm feeling your pain with you. Posting stuff like that here is definetley a good start as its read by a lot of people.
HTC stuff in my experience is just as poor build quality - so much so I avoided them for a while with my Tosh G900. My experience of my G900 has not been like your and mine was excellent... fast, responsive and built like a castle wall! My HTC devices have all failed at one point or another and i've yet to get 12months out of ANY HTC device I have ever owned. For example, my Touch Diamond feels like its made of paper, the paint is wearing off the back cover, the screen bezel/front cover has scratched, the screen is scratched and the buttons are scratched. This phone, like all my phones, is treated like a baby wrapped in cotton wool and has NEVER been dropped or banged, never put in a pocket with money or keys and always been treated like royalty. I have used HTC repairs and they are not actually that bad though.
Good luck with your Touch Pro and hope you get your Imate sorted
I agree with you 100% they provide the worst customer support I have ever seen
Our complains in thier forum and emails are always not answered
really I regret having one of thier ultimate 9502
and we don't kow how can we punish this company but at least new customers have to think twice before dealing with imate
I think everyone knows I agree. It's coming up to 5 weeks (+2 weeks the first time) and I still have no phone back thanks to a combination of I-Mate and Clove's incompetance. Been told to sit in today and wait for a replacement direct from iMate.
I bet:
a) It won't come today.
b) When it does arrive it'll have the same problems the old one was sent away for.
Terrible product, terrible support and terrible reseller.
I am really glad i found this fourm i was about to do the same thing. buy the 9502 from clove. haha. i dont know now though.
I guess i am still on the qwest to find the perfect phone for me.
it has to have atlest 128ram gps wifi and atleast vga
i am looking at the toshiba g910 but no the touch pro because there is no softkeys in landscape mode
Dont buy toshiba either
... i had a g900, and it sucked donkeys balls... for many reasons...
the touch pro is great - the lack of hardware soft buttons doesnt bother me at all..
g
Lack of scroll wheel / camera buttons etc does concern me about the Touch Pro.
Perhaps wait it out for the Sony Ericsson X1?
I thought that too, until I got it... the touch screen scrolls on finger movement (it seems to be able to tell the difference between a tap and a drag). It doesnt work on all programs, but it seems to work on mail, opera etc, which is where it matters IMHO
The camera button missing could be a PITA for some, but I rarely use the camera.
In fact, the hardware buttons are one of the most annoying features of previous phones ive owned, beacuse I was always pressing them by accident. I usually mapped them all to 'none'
g
Yeah. I think I'd probably end up mapping camera to the long press of 'end' key. Problem solved. My 9502 did that finger scrolling thing. SPB Pocket Plus enabled it. It's ok, but I preferred the wheel for being able to use the phone without having to poke the screen all the time.
I have heard though that it is possible to remap the volume buttons to scroll, and I think people are working on getting the zoom function to scroll instead like older HTC devices (which would be much more practical for me).
Oh, and my 9502 didn't arrive today. I'm not surprised.

t32+ daxian x999+

I just got my t32+ daxian x999+ today and I'm trying to find out how to turn on touchFLO its not on and I don't see it in settings how do I turn it on ?
With your thumb, make a upward action on the screen.
Kind of like scrolling up from the very bottom of the screen to the top.
Ie. Place finger/thumb below screen (black area) and drag upwards. This will make the touchflow interface come up.
umm
this thread seemed the most general of the general discussions.
Intending to buy a daxian x999 (aka t32gw). Anyone know of anything in specific I should watch out for? this is the the one and that's where I'm buying from. I know the pictures are showing a basic t32 without the internal gps, but they specify internal gps in the specs so I am going to take it on faith that it has got it.
Buying it because of arthritis... can't use small keyboards on phones anymore, any apps you would recommend... e.g large icon touch keyboard or such.
You are really going to buy a phone that has 126/64m memory, a 200mhz processor, qvga screen, and 2mp camera? In 2009? For $300? Really?
I love these nuggets from the product page:
"EVERY THING CAN ROTATE crazy phone " guess that means they pre-install FlipIt
my favorite:
"By the way, Also noticed that the GPS only works when the phone is turned upside down...I guess do to the location of the GPS chip and the metal battery cover."
Riiighhhhtt. Let me now how that touch flo 3d on QVGA screen and a 200mhz processor works out for ya
Of course it isn't actually TF3D, just some crapgadget fake OS copied from the other fake HTC's that litter Chinese flea markets and are usually about $25 new.
hmm
well that's a nice and comforting way to greet a newcomer. oh well
to comment on your comment: they might go for $25 on some fleamarket in china... the trip to china does not though. As for you other objections. let's see you write and compose flawless mandarin then. and YES I know it's a knockoff since it'd cost about five times as much otherwise. I considered the HTC Diamond 2 or the new android phone from htc. thing is that $500-$600 for one of those doesn't really feel all that enticing since it's got about five times more crap that I don't need and would never use.
The Daxian also has quite a lot of crap that I won't use, but it isn't quite as steep. Your opinions are your own and therefor valid but you might think about diplomacy when you meet a new member.
as for the ram and cpu of the daxian, well it's a phone not computer... anything I need more than that to do I got a laptop that's more than adequate.
I'm not trying to goad you or piss you off, I just wanted to point out that even though you might consider someone else an idiot it might not always be appropriate to be so obvious about it.
Djeeno, don't take it so personally. The fact is that there is some leeway between a crap knockoff phone (for $300, that is TOO MUCH) and a $500 HTC phone.
if you can get one of these running windows mobile for 25 i will buy it off of you for 40.
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You are really going to buy a phone that has 126/64m memory, a 200mhz processor, qvga screen, and 2mp camera? In 2009? For $300? Really?
I love these nuggets from the product page:
"EVERY THING CAN ROTATE crazy phone " guess that means they pre-install FlipIt
my favorite:
"By the way, Also noticed that the GPS only works when the phone is turned upside down...I guess do to the location of the GPS chip and the metal battery cover."
Riiighhhhtt. Let me now how that touch flo 3d on QVGA screen and a 200mhz processor works out for ya
Of course it isn't actually TF3D, just some crapgadget fake OS copied from the other fake HTC's that litter Chinese flea markets and are usually about $25 new.
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Djeeno,
First, I never called you an idiot, I wasn't trying to flame you and if I was too "cheeky" and offended you I apologize. However, I actually do read, write, and speak near flawless Mandarin, as you can see from the link in my signature I own and operate a Mandarin language school in China and I have an HSK level 9 certification. There are many, many people in China who can write flawless English. The extremely poor English in the add for that phone tells you something about the company that is selling it. They are fly-by-night and most likely manufacture garbage.
I've seen a lot of these phones around and I can tell you they are complete junk. While you may not think you need more than a 200mhz processor you are wrong, this phone will freeze, choke, crash, take about a minute to answer sometimes, etc. I can promise you the build quality is horrid as will be the camera, fake OS, signal reception, etc. I absolutely can buy this phone on the street here for $25. If they can sell them for that cheap what kind of quality parts do you think they are using? You can't use the GPS unless the phone is turned upside down? Does that not ring any alarm bells with you man?
This is a sub-$100 phone ANYWHERE in the world, and a piece of garbage. IF you are willing to spend $300, please do yourself a favor and check out some of great REAL windows mobile and HTC phones on www.handtec.co.uk I'm not affiliated just a happy customer. For the money that rip off place in Guangzhou is going to sting you for you could something real and nice that actually works and you can install apps on.
sorry... been a bit overworked lately and got a bit touchy. mea culpa
I checked out the link and found something, I looked at the E-ten m810.
that brought me to another site and I realized that I may have to up the price range a bit... now I stand with the choice of either the e-ten m810, the e-ten x800 or the MWg ZincII. and I can't choose. You seem to be more at home with this than I am so I am now asking for help.
As I posted earlier I am buying a touch screen phone because of my arthritis, but I would like the phone to have GPS and preferably be less than £250 (appx €300). which one of those I mentioned would you recommend? I found them at expansys.com
You really can't find a Touch Pro or Tytn II for under €300?
not from where I'm sitting no.
I have been unable to find one that goes for less than €300 including postage to sweden
edit: I've been unable to find ANY htc phone for less than £260 (which is €297 NOT counting postage)
Djeeno,
Huh, let me check around, there must be something in your range, you've got a fair bit of cash to spend...I'll post back in a few

Office Depot

Just got an email from Office Depot, they have the GTab on sale for $299.
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i checked the times after i posted, thats why i deleted. Mah bad.
I was there today and saw that. Limited time on it. Paid $380 there 6 months ago.
Price is right, I work Office Depot.
I can confirm this price(299) as I work at office depot. We are Making room for another tablet. Ill have to look through the stores 'Playbook' to see which one will be replacing this one.
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I can confirm this price(299) as I work at office depot. We are Making room for another tablet. Ill have to look through the stores 'Playbook' to see which one will be replacing this one.
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haha, the guy at the one I was at yesterday straight up said to me, "If you dont like that, we are getting the playbook in a couple of weeks. It's supposed to be the iPad killer"
Which by the way, i hate that term. First off, it means that the iPad is something that is so much better than everything else that it needs to be killed. The ipad isnt better, it is different. It is designed for a certain type of people. I'm glad android isnt anything like iOS. If it was, i wouldnt use it.
Secondly, there is nothing WRONG with iOS, I just dont like it. Wouldnt want to kill it though. Competition is good!
GTab Much Improved on Newer Versions (Purchases) 4-8-2011
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I was there today and saw that. Limited time on it. Paid $380 there 6 months ago.
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The GTab is different. I bought one from Office Depot in the early part of this year and I picked up another one yesterday.
The screen is different. When completely powered off for me it looks like a very, very dark green or 90% gray. Slightly different colored than the outer frame. Turned on simply incredible. You have to really turn it at some odd angles to get bad viewing. Angles you wouldn't normally view at. I could view it clear as day holding it flat overhead looking directly on. Completely flat and turned on good for internet and reading, just has a silvery or metallic tone, slightly, nothing as describe as before. For viewing pictures flat it has to be directly in front of you not at a distance, but, much better at a slight angle. Video not much change flat serious ghosting on dark colors. Who watches movies with a screen laying flat? You still get the (if someone is looking on over your shoulder) privacy using it from various angles which I like. On my dock, movies look HD TV quality at least for the two "shorts", they included, youtube and others. Mostly now depends on the quality of those movies.
Screen itself when on, is more HD. When flat, blacks show the most amount of distortion. It boots faster too. If you turn your head and look back you are on your desktop. It moves very quickly to the desktop. The browser has been seriously tweaked. Load time is fast and it also manages memory much better. I used on the 1st one, an all-in-one cache cleaner, app killer and memory manager that also let me check the CPU usage. Doesn't require much dump, really none.
Didn't see a need for flash 10.2 since out the box it was lightening quick, responsive and HD. I installed it anyway to see if there was a difference. It felt more weighed down, but the original flash on it said 10.1. All I did was throw Gapps on it without the nvidia drivers like with the first one. It did not need them. Noticed the screen cleaning cloth was different. The first one was a large red one and the new one a small green one.
Final assessment they did some serious work on it. Memory management much improved, seriously impressive. Feels absolutely stable. Not perfect, but they made it a serious contender--pre-honeycomb, to what's already out there and coming out. Apparently they have been paying attention to user comments. I probably will just pick up the 7 inch playbook now for my collection. No need for another 10 inch. Can't believe you can get all this under $300. The browser, the pages load on a dime. It's like--find the site and there it is. No freakin lag time. The loading of pages is spectacular. Moves in--flash on a page like it's handling text, and you can view video on a page with GTab flat, clearly. Nice job VS just throw out honeycomb now.
Yeah this deal was great.
I went to Office Depot to check it out, since I heard they had them there. I was planning on coming home and ordering it online, since they had it labeled as $399.
However when I came home, I discovered they had it for $299 on the website. So I attempted to print out a copy and take it in, only to find out my printer was out of ink. So now having two reasons to head up, I jumped in the car. After pulling it up on their sample GTablet in store, the salesman was like, "Huh, that's a helluva price"
So far I've been happy with it. It was kind of a pain to get nvflash working for some reason, but after doing a re-image to 3588 everything seems fine. Going to put TNT Lite on it and have fun. I agree with the screen being decent, it's not as good as an iPad2 screen but it's got a pretty decent viewing angle. Maybe 60 degrees? Colors are good too. And man, the battery life on this thing is insane compared to my iPhone! I kicked back last night with Angry Birds, next thing I knew I'd been playing for 3 hours and the battery still reported 90%.
Just ordered mine a few hours ago for local pickup, $299 plus tax, cant wait! I hope its worth it I have been on the edge about a tablet for months but for the hardware and some xda action thought I would give it a shot!
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Which by the way, i hate that term.
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I hate that term, too. I think people too often get the mis-informed idea that this tablet or that tablet is just like the ipad. And then once they got it, it doesn't feel like the ipad and they get a huge disappointment.
In fact, I'm sure that half the wooters who ordered a gtab believed that they got something like an ipad. All you have to do is read the woot thread to see how ill-informed people are.
Been on the fence for awhile... finally pulled the trigger and love it
I bought mine last week while on Spring Break in Ft. Myers Beach. The local Comp-USA had it for $299 so I price matched it at Office Depot in case I wanted to return it after I got home. I didn't do much with it last week and wasn't real thrilled with the lackluster tap-n-tap ui, but installed Vegan-tab on it today and absolutely love it. Still trying to learn my way around the android operating system. Lots of playing ahead. And, agree on the battery life. My iPod touch drains quickly on Angry Birds. The g-tablet battery life is much better.
IPad killer ha ha ha. Love that term.
I have this vision of Elmer Dude in his hunting gear saying: "Come hewers you silly iPad" hee hee
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I just bought mine there (Office Depot) yesterday, was $299, here in Oregon.
The door knob clerk tried to convince me not to buy, saying they didn't work and they were being recalled and they weren't selling them anymore. Told him I did my homework and I wanted the hardware, not the software, picked it up in front of him, smiled and walked to the counter.
Riccarr said:
I just bought mine there (Office Depot) yesterday, was $299, here in Oregon.
The door knob clerk tried to convince me not to buy, saying they didn't work and they were being recalled and they weren't selling them anymore. Told him I did my homework and I wanted the hardware, not the software, picked it up in front of him, smiled and walked to the counter.
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This story is why I fear for the future of the GTablet - even the retailers want it to fade away (I had a similar situation in my local Staples, right before they pulled it).
And it is a shame because, other than the screen angles, the hardware itself is a bargain at $299.
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This story is why I fear for the future of the GTablet - even the retailers want it to fade away (I had a similar situation in my local Staples, right before they pulled it).
And it is a shame because, other than the screen angles, the hardware itself is a bargain at $299.
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Any idea why retailers and mainstream tech websites just want the gtab to die? This really is a bargain, considering what it could do.
propagandax said:
Just ordered mine a few hours ago for local pickup, $299 plus tax, cant wait! I hope its worth it I have been on the edge about a tablet for months but for the hardware and some xda action thought I would give it a shot!
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I have had this for one day and am having huge buyers remorse, the screen is really bothering me, has anybody successfully returned one of these to office depot, there policy says this:
"Technology & Furniture - 14 Day Return Policy:
Your Original Receipt is required for all returns or exchanges of technology and furniture.
Technology products may be returned or exchanged within 14 days of purchase with Original Receipt, in original packaging and with UPC code intact. If product box is opened, we will offer an exchange only."
http://www.officedepot.com/specialL...rservice/Refunds.jsp&template=customerService
goodintentions said:
Any idea why retailers and mainstream tech websites just want the gtab to die? This really is a bargain, considering what it could do.
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Could be one of two things.
1) Not a lot of margin on them. Viewsonic has them listed CHEAP. Not sure what the margin is on something like a Xoom though. Probably not much either.
2) The stock software, at least earlier versions (honestly it wasn't horrible on mine, but after flashing I've not looked back), was nearly unusable. We're all pretty tech savvy here, imagine if you were Joe Schmoe with no tech sense whatsoever? You'd get pissed off and return it.
3) nVidia just announced they are dropping driver support for the hardware. Viewsonic claims development will continue, but the GTab may be at the end of it's life.
I, honestly, had the opposite experience. The local Office Depot only had two tablets on display, this and the Archos 7. The sales associate flat out called the Archos 'crap' and said, "Look at this, it's been here three weeks and the touch screen is busted!".
propagandax said:
I have had this for one day and am having huge buyers remorse, the screen is really bothering me, has anybody successfully returned one of these to office depot, there policy says this:
"Technology & Furniture - 14 Day Return Policy:
Your Original Receipt is required for all returns or exchanges of technology and furniture.
Technology products may be returned or exchanged within 14 days of purchase with Original Receipt, in original packaging and with UPC code intact. If product box is opened, we will offer an exchange only."
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There's a lot of chatter on complaintsboard.com about them and their return policy. If the "technology" box is open, then only an exchange. I can't post links so you'll have to search it.

Curious how the Best Buy and Staples sales are going this first weekend

Wondering how the Surface is doing for sales at BB and Staples now. I normally wouldn't care as I love my Surface but we all need it to be successful if we want to see some good app development in the Store and see growth in quality apps, which is currently lacking in the store.
I will tell you that over the weekend I was at South Coast Plaza mall in Southern California and the Microsoft Store there, which is big , was pretty busy (Maybe not Apple busy, but pretty good traffic).
Anybody have any info from BB or Staples personnel in the know or any other source?
I believe it is online only availability.
Stores have stock now. Was in a Best buy today. Surface was the 1st thing you see walking in the door.
lqaddict said:
I believe it is online only availability.
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I have read elsewhere that it has been spotted and purchased in Staples and Best Buy. I don't imagine a huge impact on RT sales until the Pro is out in the wild and attracting a lot more attention and awareness for the Surface brand.
Also, some of those cases where it is set up at best buy it has been said that they are not setting it up with the keyboard cover which IMO would draw much more attention.
We just got our Surface display set up at Staples, and a few people checked it out. But before we ever had them in store people kept coming in looking for the tablet with the "click" commercial, so i'd say the interest will be there and I love what the Surface does, so ill be glad to show it customers.
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conmanxtreme said:
We just got our Surface display set up at Staples, and a few people checked it out. But before we ever had them in store people kept coming in looking for the tablet with the "click" commercial, so i'd say the interest will be there and I love what the Surface does, so ill be glad to show it customers.
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John Lewis now have them in physical stores in the UK.
Microsot surface rt hidden at best buy
I visited a BestBuy in Gainesville, Florida, with my son. I wanted to see the Surface RT even though I own one. I could not see one. Then I spotted it with the black cover among other portable products. The Surface RT is not displayed at any specific promotional spot as the other other products are. So, even though, BestBuy carries it, I do not think people will notice it.
I hope Microsoft will address the issue.
went into Staples on Sunday (Dec 16) after I found out online that they had them in the store on Saturday. Big sign at entrance advertising the Surface. When I purchased the 64Gb version of it I found out that I was the first person in this Store who bought one. The folks at Staples wanted me to report back to them whether I liked it. I told them I will surely like it (played with it for some time at a MS Store in Boston). They told me that they only found out Wednesday that they will have them in the Store on Saturday and thought it seemed rushed by MS.
anyway, glad I was able to buy it at a local store (next MS store is 1.5hs from here).
place of Staples: Beavercreek, Ohio (Dayton area).
I just checked at the local Best Buy. It was just tossed in with the other tablets, and they didn't have the full selection of keyboards (nor did they have a keyboard out with it).
Poor product placement? Lmao...I think people who want it, know about it and will get it. Other random people, most likely will get an ipad. Lol. I honestly thought they would have a MS rep in every major best buy location to hype it up. Or , even a special station where multiple Surfaces are setup allowing people to play with them...kind of like apple has its booth in every store. Hopefully MS will do good on sales, even with poor product placment because it is a very important and effective marketing strategy.
I need to go check out my local store. I was sure I wanted the Pro but after realizing that the RT does a lot more than i thought i decided i would get that. Then after reading up some more im not sure if I am up for a windows 8 tablet anymore, just because i am more familiar with android. So i went from being 100% to not knowing what tablet I want. They get old fast... :/
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Poor product placement? Lmao...I think people who want it, know about it and will get it. Other random people, most likely will get an ipad. Lol. I honestly thought they would have a MS rep in every major best buy location to hype it up. Or , even a special station where multiple Surfaces are setup allowing people to play with them...kind of like apple has its booth in every store. Hopefully MS will do good on sales, even with poor product placment because it is a very important and effective marketing strategy.
I need to go check out my local store. I was sure I wanted the Pro but after realizing that the RT does a lot more than i thought i decided i would get that. Then after reading up some more im not sure if I am up for a windows 8 tablet anymore, just because i am more familiar with android. So i went from being 100% to not knowing what tablet I want. They get old fast... :/
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Coming from Android as well, I find the Surface Rt way more customizable out of the box via registry tweaks and such. Something only possible via rooting android. I also find it much more stable than ICS (I cant comment on JB as I have not played with much on my wifes Nexus 7 since I got my Surface now.
At the Best Buy I visited (in KY), it was basically in the back where the cheap ipad covers were. The Kindle, ipad, android, and every other tablet got much better placement and the sales people weren't talking about them and knew almost nothing about them.
I think this whole plan was put together quickly and without any real prep.
I work at a staples in Oklahoma. All our documentation was about how big a win it would he for us to be the first retailer to have it on the shelf. The only spot we had open for the surface was the end cap with the nexus so they left all the nexus display stuff and accessories up for the first 3 days, but had the Surface model and tags in front... ugh. I guess technically we did have it first. Lol. They didn't work out the deal till like Wednesday of last week and we had stock by Thursday so in the corporate world that's crazy ass fast.
We sold 3 to one business guy with a startup that needed internet explorer and office and that's it. Other wise I've sold 2 to my personal friends that I told to wait and not buy online till they can come in to my store to buy it. Ha. Also, if you decide to take funny pictures of your face and perhaps other body parts, the photo app love tile will keep scrolling the pics even after you delete them... just a heads up. Lol
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bigwilly90210 said:
I work at a staples in Oklahoma. All our documentation was about how big a win it would he for us to be the first retailer to have it on the shelf. The only spot we had open for the surface was the end cap with the nexus so they left all the nexus display stuff and accessories up for the first 3 days, but had the Surface model and tags in front... ugh. I guess technically we did have it first. Lol. They didn't work out the deal till like Wednesday of last week and we had stock by Thursday so in the corporate world that's crazy ass fast.
We sold 3 to one business guy with a startup that needed internet explorer and office and that's it. Other wise I've sold 2 to my personal friends that I told to wait and not buy online till they can come in to my store to buy it. Ha. Also, if you decide to take funny pictures of your face and perhaps other body parts, the photo app love tile will keep scrolling the pics even after you delete them... just a heads up. Lol
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Hopefully MS will follow up and get proper displays for Staples and Best buy as it really is a great product (I have had one since launch and have done some awesome tweaks on mine (full flash, no lock screen, starts up when opened, networked, etc). Hardwarewise it is stable, and the OS is getting better -It just needs the developer community to get behind it, and that is only going to happen if they see users($$$).
After my good experience at the local Staples here in Dayton, Ohio I also went to BestBuy today. What a let-down. I couldn't find anything about the Surface. The only special place I found was the iMac stand that is placed pretty much in your face when you walk into the store. When I asked for the Surface a guy in the laptop section told me that "oddly enough, it's placed in the mobile section". Okay, when I walked over to the mobile section I found two or three tablets with Win8 (Asus Avivo, Samsung), but there was no Surface. When I asked again the BB guy told me that they are right there, pointing to the laptops I just looked at. Doh! I guess anything Windows 8 goes by Surface at BB at least in this store.
On the other hand I am not really surprised.....
Yeah the Surface at our staples is set up on and end cap, which isnt a terrible spot, but it doesn't quite jump out at you, and the end caps beside it are the Lenovo Twist and the new Samsung 23" All-in-one desktop, so its not terrible placement.
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Hey guys me again
I said that I wasn't sure about whether I wanted the Surface anymore after seeing all the android tabs and what not (because I have a lot of experience with the android OS.) I love android, I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 currently, and I was thinking of buying an android tablet so everything would be synced and what not. After thinking about it some more, and going to my local Best Buy, to play with the Surface, I realized that I definitely wanted it over anything else. I realized that I want something new, and all android has to offer are the same things I can already do with my phone, just a little bigger. I'm definitely going to go purchase this tablet in the next few days.
As far as product placement, my local Best Buy did an excellent job of actual physical placement. It is right in front of you when you walk in the store. I, somehow, still missed it and had to ask an employee to point me in the right direction. They need a banner or some sort of sign. LOL. They need to hire me as a manager, I'm sure I can put my BA Business and MSIS degree to good use
I was worried about the screen resolution, but in person, it is everything and more. I am not that picky about resolution, as long as everything looks good, and everything looks amazing on the tablet. Who cares if it doesn't have the crazy high resolutions, because it is perfect for what it is.
Also, played with the type cover because that is the only cover they had out at my local Best Buy. I couldn't test the touch cover, but the type cover is amazing. I played around with office, and I literally fell in love with the little device. I must get it. I think if everyone would stop being so bias and give it a chance, they will fall in love with it. I am an android fan, but I am giving this tablet a chance. Plus, the android tablet I bought last year, I ended up returning because all it was to me is an overgrown phone. Every time I wanted to do something I couldn't decide whether to do it on my android phone or my android tablet. LOL! So I just returned it to avoid the headache altogether.
Anyhow, I don't think the stores are doing too hot with sales. I didn't even see anyone else playing with the tablet, maybe because I was hogging the only one they had out, but who knows. Sucks because I really want it to do well.
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Anyhow, I don't think the stores are doing too hot with sales. I didn't even see anyone else playing with the tablet....
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Waiting on eye glasses repair...
Costco: guy asks "where is the old windows ?"
Lady asks "are there any windows seven laptops left?"
mom+kids "we'll just go get an ipad" (kids cheering, after trying to use the w8 demo unit for a few minutes)
Bestbuy:
Lady "where are the new ipads?"
Dude "this thing has awesome specs! Do you know how to put real windows on it?" (To his buddy)
Salesguy, "ya, I don't know about the surface thing. Doesn't sell. Can't believe they didn't have the pro ready for christmas."
All folks who might have considered a surface, maybe. Its not getting any serious attention from what I've seen.
I bought one from my local Best Buy, they just had it out with the other tablets, had the $499 32Gb, $599 32Gb with cover (One I got) and the $699 64Gb with cover.
I think Microsoft could really benefit for a better advertising campaign, also they should ship specific display models to stores that have a looping display on them. A black square with a black screen doesn't make one want to pick it up.
It's a nice device, build quality is awesome, OS is buggy though. Not sure if I'll keep it or not (have a month thanks to longer holiday return policy) or maybe get something like the 13" Lenovo yoga.
I still haven't gotten the white list hack to work, unless that was fixed not to in the latest update.
I still don't really get the hype or people waiting for the Pro, it's just a tablet computer, maybe it will be nicer in quality, buy really you can buy that now, the surface is great because of the battery life, size and for the most part a full OS, the pro looses most of that.
I do have to say I own a iPad mini and love the thing for size and weight but for the most part it's a gamming device, even my old full size ipad was just that also.
One of my first wishes for the surface is 4 rows of tiles instead of three, my start screen is getting kind of long!
Zytryx said:
I bought one from my local Best Buy, they just had it out with the other tablets, had the $499 32Gb, $599 32Gb with cover (One I got) and the $699 64Gb with cover.
I think Microsoft could really benefit for a better advertising campaign, also they should ship specific display models to stores that have a looping display on them. A black square with a black screen doesn't make one want to pick it up.
It's a nice device, build quality is awesome, OS is buggy though. Not sure if I'll keep it or not (have a month thanks to longer holiday return policy) or maybe get something like the 13" Lenovo yoga.
I still haven't gotten the white list hack to work, unless that was fixed not to in the latest update.
I still don't really get the hype or people waiting for the Pro, it's just a tablet computer, maybe it will be nicer in quality, buy really you can buy that now, the surface is great because of the battery life, size and for the most part a full OS, the pro looses most of that.
I do have to say I own a iPad mini and love the thing for size and weight but for the most part it's a gamming device, even my old full size ipad was just that also.
One of my first wishes for the surface is 4 rows of tiles instead of three, my start screen is getting kind of long!
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I also wish there were 4 tiles, and I also want the ability to group apps into folders on the start screen - I have over 100 apps installed and its a bit tough to manuevur, even with shrinking the size of the start screen shortcut.

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