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JABRA BT200/XDAII Reconnect/Bonding problems

I have been using a JABRA BT200 Headset with my XDAII and have always had the same problem, once the BT200 has been paired with the XDAII it works fine but once I put the headset into it's charging cradle and then remove it and try to use it again it always loses it's bond, the only way I can get it to communicate with the XDAII again is to pair it again.
I don't know whether the problem lies with the BT200 or the XDAII
Does anyone else have this problem ???
Thanks
Ian Goulding

hey ian,
it was just recently that i was able to figure out the bt-xda2 bonding; thanks to some helpful chaps in the forum. in the process; i did some research within several topics and read something which may answer your query. when the headset is back in it's cradle; i believe it's "turned off" or is put into inactive mode. the forum message i read indicated that the bonding is lost once the headset is turned off; thus you have to bond again. yes, i have had similar experiences while figuring out the bonding issue. i just keep the bt200 i have out of the cradle; when the time comes to charge it i then holster it and repeat the bonding process once it's charged. i don't think it's a problem with neither devices; it's the default setting i believe. with luck probably the xda-developer guys will come up with a bug fix for this item. which could also include using bt for other than the phone function...like mp3....hint! hint!
cheers
robson

Ian_Goulding said:
I have been using a JABRA BT200 Headset with my XDAII and have always had the same problem, once the BT200 has been paired with the XDAII it works fine but once I put the headset into it's charging cradle and then remove it and try to use it again it always loses it's bond, the only way I can get it to communicate with the XDAII again is to pair it again.
I don't know whether the problem lies with the BT200 or the XDAII
Does anyone else have this problem ???
Thanks
Ian Goulding
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I've installed Towa's GPS BT patch and the Jabra works perfect.

hey redbull,
what's the Towa's GPS BT patch and where can i find a link?
cheers mate
robson

Towa's gps patch has nothing to do with this...
I'm not sure what you are talking about, but Towa's patch will not solve the Jabra BT200 issue. The more important question to look at here is what version of BT200 you have. If you look on your Jabra BT200 right next to the microphone, there is a combination of letters and numbers, what does yours say? I think the problem has to do with issues in the firmware in the Jabra that were fixed in later versions.
It's usually 2 numbers and a letter on the boom to the Microphone.
I have a 47A and it does not work at all. Also tested a 48A and it doesn't work either.

mine's a 48b. works fine.

Cool, just so we are talking about the same thing, you can turn off the Jabra BT200, and turn it back on, and it still works with the phone? You can charge the headset in it's charger and pull it out and it still works? You can go out of range and then back in range and it still works? You can press the answer phone button on the headset when no call is in progress and then try to make a call and things still work?
Please try these various things and let me know.
I know that the A models are from 2002, and the B models are 2003. So it is possible if yours works with all these scenarios that they fixes or changed something in the 2003 models that allow them to work.
Thanks for your time,
LouisK

I recently purchased a BT 250 with nr. 44B and indeed it works with all the tests you described. (Don't need the BT GPS patch for that)
If only the advanced Headset Profile features would work with the MDA II I would be in heaven...........

Ok, it seems based on feedback I've gotten from several people that any Jabra Freespeak that has a "B" as the last part of it's version number will work correctly, but the "A" models do not. The "B" models according to Jabra are the most recent, and thought they don't admit it, there must have been a change in the firmware that allows the "B" units to work correctly with an XDA2/MDA2/i-Mate that the "A" units don't support.
LouisK

I have a "B" on mine and the same problem of rebonding when Jabra is shut off. I experimented by turning off bluetooth on the i-mate and it still worked. Anyone have ideas of a good headset that will not need rebonding?

I have problems with mine too and its a 16B. Turn the BT headset off and its rebond time again.....

48B works fine for me... can't everyone else just use TOWA's patch... that fixed the problem for others

stryker said:
I have problems with mine too and its a 16B. Turn the BT headset off and its rebond time again.....
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16B is no good. I've been told that minumum needed is 19B. Below 19B is bluetooth 'handsfree' not 'headset'.

Towa's patch has nothing to do with this. It will not help in this situation. It only applies to Bluetooth Serial Profile, of which the Jabra has none. I have talked to Towa via email to confirm this. For those that installed Towa's patch and said it works, more than likely they didn't have the problem anyway because of the version of Jabra they had.

BT jabra 200/plantronic M3000
Jabra is model 45B, - no nead to repair, Plantronics M3000, no need to repair, but sometimes fails to answer call properly.

Hi 2U all,
I have just purchased a BT200 off Ebay, the number on the boom is 20B. No problems works well , no rebonding problems. Just one wish, it would work with voice. But I will keep praying!
StayLucky Jim :wink:

EMAIL FROM JABRA RE-Bonding Problems with XDA-II
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Dear Ian,
Thank you for your e-mail and please accept our apologies for the delay in reply.
We are sorry to hear you are experiencing problems using your JABRA BT200 headset in conjunction with your O2 XDA II.
However, having tested the JABRA BT200 headset with the XDA II, we have encountered the following problems.
When completed charging the headset you will need to synchronise the Headset and the Audio Gateway in your XDA II.
Please follow the steps below:
Select Bluetooth menu> Select Off> Select OK (BT is now disconnected)
Return to desktop (Today view)> Disable BT HS mode> Enable BT HS mode (User
to be prompted to turn On BT radio)>Select OK
Enter BT menu> Select On> Select OK (The XDA II returns to the "Today" view
and will try to synchronise with the HS again.
Check connection by establishing an outgoing call. If no sync - you will need
to re-pair the two devices)
We hope this will solve your problem for you. If you require any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Thank you for contacting JABRA Customer Service, Europe
Camilla Vang
Customer Service Representative
GN Netcom, Mobile Division (Copenhagen, Denmark)
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Seems to me that without actually saying it, JABRA think that the fault lies with the XDA-II!
Regards
Ian Goulding

question?? does the bt200 2.5 work with the imate and a i95c at the same time??
i have two devises an I95cl for nextel not blue tooth and the imate pc phone. i would like if possible to use one headset ?? the bt 2002.5 says it will work for bt phones also?? but will it work at the same time ?? hope iam clear...iam a baby here can you tell

15B, can it be upgraded?

Hello everyone...
I have an MDAII and a Plantronics M3000 BT headset and I have the same pairing problem.
I always have to repair the two divices for them to work...
Any ideas?
Best regards,
Rayan

Problems with Plantronics M3000 and QTEK 2020

I have bought a Plantronics M3000 bluetooth headset for my QTEK 2020. I have no problems pairing, calling and answering. However the headset just shuts off after a few minutes of conversation. It doesn't just cut the conversation but shuts off. I can make multiple short calls but nothing longer than 3/4 minutes. It works, however, without problems on my wife's Ericsson T68. Anyone can help ? Thanks.
Marek

Hello,
I have the MDA2 (same as QTek2020) and a Plantronics M3000 and It's been working just fine.
The problem you describe it's very weird since you mentioned that the headset works fine with your wife's mobile, and that makes me think that your QTek has some sort of problem with the Bluetooth stack or hardware.
It may be well worth to try (if possible) another headset just to make sure that is not the M3000 fault.
Do you see any type of error or message on the screen at the time of disconnection?
Does it always cut the conversation at the exact same moment?
Does the problem match the time the QTek takes to power save?
Any other clues?

Thanks.
I did not have the occasion to test another BT headset on the Qtek. When it shuts down there isn't any message displayed.
I have no problems with the BT stack (with the Pocket Bluetooth Tools patch) when using it with a BT GPS (Emtac) receiver, it works for hours.
However, your suggestion that it might happen when the Qtek goes in energy saving mode is interesting. I will check that tomorrow.
I'll post the result.

Hi
I seem to have a similar poblem after installing pocket bluetooth tools!.
I use a Jabra BT 250..and I noticed that the headset just mutes during the call..
I am generally used to switching off the display of the XDA after placing the call to power save ...
So I discovered that the headset would mute whenever i switch off the xda after making the call (which it never did prior to installing PBT)!
any thoughts on that?
maybe it has to do with the auto switch off plugin?

Actually I just experienced that too...
If I place (or answer a call) the next time I try to use the phone via the BT headset I notice the BT headset was turned off... Yeah, it could be related to the Powersave feature on the today plugin that PBT installs as a plugin... :roll:
Need to investigate...
Best regards,
Rayan

Both my bt headsets have stopped working since installing pocket bluetooth tools latest version, I have reverted back to version 1005 and everything is fine. I have a sony-ericsson EBH-65 and a skypower clip on headset.

my platronics does the same also its annoying you cant even transfer the call back to the device you have to hand up turn off bt and then turn it abck on and headset mode back on it also does the same on my pc
when im on msn using it as a headset it just d/c and i have to turn it off and turn it back on again
dont see what the problem is
btw the range on the xda2 and platronics is amazing i had it on my bedrooms desk and i went outside it passed through the living room wall and the patio window and i was stood 5m down my garden im sure it would of been over 10m and it was still working if i kept still when i moved it went crackly but ah well lol
just hope someone sorts the prob out

Hi,
I was having the same problem with the M3000. I just had confirmation from Plantronics that this problem is a bug in the product that occurs with the XDA II. I am currently in the process of returning the product.
Regards...Mike

Same problem M3000 doesn't work. Give up now before too much frustration makes you feel ill.
Try the Hello 2 headset. Work with my Aussie XDA2 and is very small and lightweight. Even had a neck chain to carry it around like a USB drive.

Plantronics M3000 Turns itself off after 2 mins talk time

Help!
I have had my M3000 for about 8 months now and until recently it has worked fine.
Last week when I answered a call with it, the headset turned itself off after about 2 mins of talk time. The phone thought the headset was still connected and I had to transfer the call back to the phone, and end the call before I could do anything else. It is now doing this regularly.
I have re-bonded and the headset is fully charged (even tried it while connected to charger!)
I have also tried to run the headset against my pc (audio output) and this works fine.
The only thing I can think of is the battery in the 3000 losing its charge when connected to a phone, but when I charge it, it is ready in a matter of mins.
Anyone any other suggestions as to why the Headset powers itself off ?? Has anyone seen this behaviour before ??
Thanks in advance.

mine does the same mate its the platronics m3000 its crap and doesnt work well with the XDA2 use the bluetrek G2 they work great

Mine did the same, but I just noticed that the XDA2 was on Bluetooth Discoverable mode, when I switched to Bluetooth Connectable (On) it works fine

Thanks to all who have replied....
I have tried a few more things out :lol:
1) Logged an issue with Plantronics :wink:
2) Tried my BT Carkit which works no problem :lol:
3) Tried a Hard Reset - Works great afterwards :lol: until I install my apps
It has therefore got to be a problem with apps and rom version clash??
Those who have had similar issues with the Plantronics turning itself off after using it for more than about 1.5 Mins.... Do you have any of the following apps ???
Belkin IR Keyboard Drivers (Belkin WPDAK)
Fonix Voice Dial/ UK Roger
Microsoft Money
MTUX Ringtone X
Pocket Bluetooth Tools (1012)
RegKing
Sandisk WiFi
SBSH.NET Birth2Day/ Calendat Plus/ iLauncher
Scary Bears Check Notifi
Yishin Power Check
CDL - O2 Customisiation
Thanks,
Ian

Plantronics Bluetooth Headset
I also have the same problem. I also have a SanDisk wifi card (which on occasion also stops working causing me to hard reset) and Microsoft Voice Dialler and Pocket Breeze and a number of other plugins. The whole point of plug-ins is to use them! Any suggestions???
David

It gets worse!!
I have just tried the Widcomm stack on the XDAII.
Its probably me, but I just cant get the thing to pick up the headset when I make or recieve a call, so that was no use.
To uninstall Widcomm I had to do a hrad reset (Widcomm disables the sound after uninstallation for some reason - grrrr), and now the damm thing shows the same symptoms - even on a virgin hard reset device.
My only conclusion is that something changed in the last ROM to kill it. I'll wait for another ROM upgrade and see what happens then, but will now probably end up buying another headset.
Is anyone on 1.72 with a Plantronics that works??? :?:

Ian - Rom 1.72
Do you have the 1.72 Rom on the XDAII from the UK? I thought it wasn't out yet. Is it better than 1.60?

Re: Ian - Rom 1.72
pavid1 said:
Do you have the 1.72 Rom on the XDAII from the UK? I thought it wasn't out yet. Is it better than 1.60?
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Yep 1.72 UK.
Its better than 1.6x but has still got issues with it - like needing to be hard reset every now and again (grrr). But BT is more stable and power drain is better.

S710 (vox) bluetooth carkit probs

I received my shiny new S710 today (replacing my imate sp5) i am having terrible problems with bluetooth and my car kit (Parrot Ck3100 with latest sortware) The phone connects and syncs ok but disconnects after a few mins and refuses to connect again.
I have an old motorola h605 headset that shows similar problems of not connecting or dropping the connection.
The Ck3100 kit has worked faultlessly with my imate sp5 for the last year.
Has anyone else had any problems with headsets or car kits?!
I have done a hard reset on the S710 and have nothing installed, and also disconnected the power to the CK3100 for 1/2 an hour before attempting to re setup the pairing
iain

Nokia CK7W
On a similar note, while my Vodafone V1415 works with my Nokia CK7W, I cannot end a call by pressing the button. Last number redial (two presses) and Hold or something like it (press and hold) are OK. To be fair, the CK7W is a little dated, but has proven to be fine with both Blue Angel and Hermes.
On the plus side the audio is good, without any echo for the remote caller.

Nokia CK-7W and S710
As with the Qtek 9100, the S710 seems not to operate soomthly with the NOKIA carkit CK-7w. I have to turn volume up to 100% and the sound from the speaker is still rather quite. The person i am calling is complaining that the line is not perfect. So for me it is back to the standard corded earpiece.
So any tips using the CK-7W and vox succesfully together are welcome!

@mcroonen
It's strange that I don't have the same experience as you. What version is your software? Compare with mine in my signature. I'm afraid I can't offer any suggestions, it seems to be pot luck! Maybe we find some variations in the radio stacks that will sort this out.

further to this i managed to borrow a e650 (vox) from work and it worked 100% with my car kit and tomtom and laptop!
I spoke to htc who said they had tested with the parrot ck3100 and said it worked 100%, as my phone was struggling to be detected by several devices and also struggling to detect other things that they recomended getting it replaced.
Spoke to handtech who said they would replace asap

jbn said:
@mcroonen
It's strange that I don't have the same experience as you. What version is your software? Compare with mine in my signature. I'm afraid I can't offer any suggestions, it seems to be pot luck! Maybe we find some variations in the radio stacks that will sort this out.
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@jbn
KPN
OS: 5.2.1235 (Build 17740.0.2.0)
ROM: 1.15.405.2
Radio: 4.1.12.37_02.83.90

I had problems whith the sound quality and people not hearing me well.
For me it helped to delete the registry settings for the nokia ck-7w
It's under software/htc not sure if it was in LM or CU. I think LM.
Good luck

Had the same problem. Qtek8310 was working fine, S710 not. After a reset of the Parrot also the S710 is working fine.

aage said:
I had problems whith the sound quality and people not hearing me well.
For me it helped to delete the registry settings for the nokia ck-7w
It's under software/htc not sure if it was in LM or CU. I think LM.
Good luck
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Unfortenately deleting the settings introduces echo and noise (voice sounds like robot). I think S710 and Nokis Ck-7w are not made for eachother.
I will try using the Parrot 3100 as on alternative BT solution..

Parrot CK3300 GPS CAR KIT
I have the Parrot CK3300 GPS CAR KIT and no problems at all with my S710, works a dream

Parrot
Hi,
You should visit http://www.parrot.com/uk/support/downloads
and get the latest software for your Parrot. You will need a bluetooth enabled laptop or to get your bluetooth enabled PC near your car!
Flash your parrot, then connect choosing a windows CE device. It will fully sync your phonebook too.
I use the Orange E650 and connect to my Holux GPS receiver and Parrot 3100 at the same time with no problems at all.
cheers
Sinet2020

JETware
See this thread for a possible solution for the Nokia CK7W!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331096

HTC Cruise don’t work with my Bluetooth carkit (parrot).

Hi There,
I have a HTC Cruise (dutch) and a Parrot 3200 LS-Color bluetooth carkit.
My carkit sees my HTC and I can sync my address book but when I receive a call ore when I want to call it doesn’t work right. I have to put the telephone to my ear again. The speakers en mic in my car don’t work.
Can any one help?
Thanks,
marco

update your carkit
Are you sure that you are on the best firmware for your car kit?
I have a diffrent parrot car kit (mk6000), and all my pb was solved by: going to the last parrot firmware, and after updating my phone to WM6.1 (not sure that this second is necessary or not)
Houms

I have a Parrot CK 3100
Version 4.16
I have also HTC TC with WM6 original
Every think work fine

You can try the jetware bluetooth extension.
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
It solved some problems with my parrot ck300 evolution.
\\Yoshi

My Parrot works fine with Polaris

Parrot 3100 working fine with Polaris here too.

I had posted my experiences with the new firmware update here:
http://www.parrot.com/forums/usa/viewtopic.php?id=1487
Hope that this helps
T

imo the parrot with the color screen is a waist of money, ck3100 is also more supported ! My polaris works flawlessy with my ck3100.

My Polaris works near fine with the CK3100, except the disturbing phantom call when your last call was not picked up...
The other minor problem is that the different numbers of one contact are shown separated (/H /W /M...) Does anybody know if it possible to show all together?

Parrot have a 4.17 update out.Try flashing your ck3100.

Canaan said:
Parrot have a 4.17 update out.Try flashing your ck3100.
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Already flashed, but no changes.

grouchomrx said:
My Polaris works near fine with the CK3100, except the disturbing phantom call when your last call was not picked up...
The other minor problem is that the different numbers of one contact are shown separated (/H /W /M...) Does anybody know if it possible to show all together?
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There is a prog on Parrot's website the creates a vCard of all your contacts in outlook this file is then sent to the CK3100 from your phone and all of you contacts are saved in the bluetooth kit.
I don't think the phone auto syncs these contacts though
JJ

Hi Guys,
I don't want to be rude, but the thread starter asks for a solution to his problem not a list of parrots which do work with the touch cruise. Not really helpful according to me :s.
Futhermore, I am also having a lot of problems with the Touch Cruise with the Parrot 3200LS Color. I installed the jetware bluetooth extension, which solved 99% of my problems.
The 1% left is disconnecting a phone call. If I push the red button on the Parrot device, the call is not disconnected. I have to push the red button on my phone to end the call, but still the 3200LS thinks the call is still going on. I have to pull the plug to reset the 3200 LS. I already flashed the parrot with the latest firmware.
Anyone any useful pointers?

Parrot and TC
Hi there!
I don't know about you guys, but for me it's simple, for HTC touch, and for TC with my parrot CK v3.13 here's what i do:
- to be shore, you reset your parrot (red + green buttons, then you hear "please pair device", and only with first pairing),
- turn on your TC's BT, go to settings/BT, Add new device (Mode - visible), and when parrot asks for code, it's 1234, as i recall.
- now you are paired, and when you enter in your car only thing you have to do is to turn on TC's BT, pairing will be authomatic.
this works for me, without any problems...
Hope this helps
Bye

Problems with the HTC and the Parrot sync.
I have an HTC polaris but I cant sync with the Parrot 3100, because allways says that the code or the connection fail. anyone can Help me to sync this 2 ???
Thanks
Portugal HTC user!!!