Which do you prefer and why?
I am mainly concerned with speed and stability, so I am not sure which would be the better option or if it there would really be any difference seeing as they both use the same base.
I've tried both and they're both fast and stable with excellent features. To me it's kinda like a choice between a BMW or Mercedes. You can't go wrong with either so I'd read the features built into each and pick the one with the most appealing set up. Schap's has a great feature set, but Dutty always seems to come out with something new
Flash one for a day and play with it. Then flash the other for a day. Use a good back up like PPCPimBackup and restoring you're contacts and info is easy. You'll just have to customize your settings again. But that's just a good way to learn the ins and outs of your phone. Just have fun
They both are great ROM's. So it comes down to preference and what you need and want in your phone. Like Charlie said, you kinda can't go wrong. They both are WAY better than the stock ROM.
jb
A benchmark test would help. Like charlie said, Dutty throws in some extra goodies. It doesnt hurt to try them both out.
blesbok said:
Which do you prefer and why?
I am mainly concerned with speed and stability, so I am not sure which would be the better option or if it there would really be any difference seeing as they both use the same base.
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Which car is better BMW or Mercedes?
Always the same... everyone gives you another answer.
Just try them and find out which meets your requirements most.
I have been loving both ROms myself and think same as you guys reference speed and stability but there are a few things better with Dutty
Dutty's Roms doesnt have as many progs as schaps, adobe lite, i hate that app and use other ebook readers and some other progs that you would hardly use so i think dutty gets the win for me here..
come to think of it, schaps has been cooking roms b4 dutty and dutty gave him props because he learnt alot from schaps. there you have it make your pick, students normally perfect wat they have been taught and beat the teachers....lol
Z
bmueller77 said:
Which car is better BMW or Mercedes?
Always the same... everyone gives you another answer.
Just try them and find out which meets your requirements most.
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Very nice answer
Flashing Shaps' now, will give you an answer soon...
Wait a minute, why aren't YOU doing the same thing?!
Seriously though, both are great, I use Shaps at the moment cause it has build-in VoIP, but Dutty's stuff is flat out awesome, too!
Either way you win.
H.
Tried most ROMs out there and I kept on changing. Re-flashing is the least expensive way to feel like you got a new phone.
Schaps has cooked great ROMs and still however, Dutty ROMs are always on the cutting edge of "Most Recent", "Advanced", and he's always participating, answering questions and spending his valuable time on this forum. I would not buy a Benz or a BMW if I have to wait numerous days for service. Posting a ROM and expecting people to test, I would think support should be also available. Thank god for the great guys here in this forum that spend the time to explain ways out of trouble for the many noobeez in here ( like myself). Without the testers, I would be, among others, lost.
I am currently testing Duttys V3 Final. Let me say this, it is by far the best ROM for the Tilts I have, so far. Stable, Robust and does not eat up battery.
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Which car is better BMW or Mercedes?
Always the same... everyone gives you another answer.
Just try them and find out which meets your requirements most.
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that would be bmw. now that we got that out the way we can move on with our lives.
If you are mainly concerned with speed and stability then I don't know how you can't throw Alex's Ultra Clean ROM into the mix. Honestly I haven't tried all the others yet, but I have been extremely happy with the UC rom by Alex. If anything, it has to be the fastest one out there, and in the past 5 days I don't think I have reset more than once or twice for a reason other than an install.
No offense to the other developers, I just have a bias towards super clean ROM's and not relying on what someone else thinks that I should have in a ROM... but that's just me.
I say, GOGO DUTTY
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If you are mainly concerned with speed and stability then I don't know how you can't throw Alex's Ultra Clean ROM into the mix. Honestly I haven't tried all the others yet, but I have been extremely happy with the UC rom by Alex. If anything, it has to be the fastest one out there, and in the past 5 days I don't think I have reset more than once or twice for a reason other than an install.
No offense to the other developers, I just have a bias towards super clean ROM's and not relying on what someone else thinks that I should have in a ROM... but that's just me.
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I agree. I've tried quite a few other ROMS and always come back to Alex's. I wish dutty and schap would make their roms easer to add and remove programs/features via the ROM kitchen.
Schap's v4.3 Rom is very stable and most improtantly it does look like an orignal HTC Rom espcially when u start ur phone.no dutty's series..etc
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that would be bmw. now that we got that out the way we can move on with our lives.
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No, that would be Porche...
Personally Ive tried both ROMS, and they are both a vast improvement over stock - especially since stock for me was in Czech, and Im not quite that fluent Right now I'm using Dutty's V3 which seems to be the best so far but if Schaps releases a new one tomorrow I'd probably switch to just check it out.
For me the decision not to try too many other ROMs is just time - these two get great reviews and both work great for me, but I don't have the time try the others that have come out recently.
Matthew
I've tried most of them and I find myself flashing back to Schap's since 4.22. I gave v3 a shot but did not find it to be as quick or clean as 4.30 w/ 32mb.PP IMO.
I am anxious for Schap's lite and Adv Config 2.0 to be released!
Just because of Adv Config I am a Schap's fan.
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Which car is better BMW or Mercedes?
Always the same... everyone gives you another answer.
Just try them and find out which meets your requirements most.
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I can't completely agree on this.
There are some facts you can compare which can be very important to the user, for instance the 'fuel economy in automobiles' (the batterylife of the kaiser)...
What about a duel boot
It may sound crazy, but that way ppl would not have to take a chance on screwing up all their settings. My vote if I had to choose is Dutty’s roms. He is always cooking and I have never had anything I didn’t like, before he served another course.
Personal preference over feel, battery life, responsiveness, base apps/utilities etc etc etc
I ran some benchmarks on the two but I'm not at liberty to share the results as they were just for my customization of PagePool+MaxCache settings.
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I ran some benchmarks on the two but I'm not at liberty to share the results as they were just for my customization of PagePool+MaxCache settings.
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Then why even tell us if we can't get the result? hahah
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Can some one suggest which Rom out there is the most stable and fastest eg: NBD 9.2 or Octavia 5 etc
i think the best way is to test urself
anyway im using TNT.1437 Series and it is very fast and stable without over clocking
elhamy said:
i think the best way is to test urself
anyway im using TNT.1437 Series and it is very fast and stable without over clocking
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x2 that
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Can some one suggest which Rom out there is the most stable and fastest eg: NBD 9.2 or Octavia 5 etc
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u asked for it at present TNT Professional HTC Home
Jaguar is best!
I 've tested every WM6 ROM out there. None satisfied me. So, decided to go back WM5 AKU 3.3 Generic (without T-Mobile stuff). Perhaps, what I can recommend for WM6 is either 15342 (dogfood) or 1437. So far, these are 2 most stable build by far.
Jaguar *is* the most reliable and stable.
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Jaguar is best!
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Tried several, only Jaguar is stable, reliable, and doesn't miss calls. (current rev. is Jaguar 2).
ICTDifrentie ROM
I love the ICTDifrentie.NL rom.
its fast smart and easy to use
Greats Antonius
I have NBD 9.2 rom but these days there is no new Rom from NBD so hoping for a new release.
Let me throw in my vote for Jaguar as well. It has been very responsive and I haven't encountered any problems yet.
once again the same newbie question.
People please...
The best ROM is the one which fits your own needs.
Please read on the forum, research a little bit about Cook's preferences and style and look which one suits your own need..
Mods shall we delete this thread please???
The one that works the best for my needs is.....
Hello all,
Yes, these threads pop up about every other day or so.... and while they might get tiresome for the old hats and gurus here, it's still nice to collect a smattering of opinions as to where the user community might be leaning regarding what rom base, touch or no touch, HTC Home or HTC NOT Home, overclocking, memory free, performance, battery usage, etc... and while this is extremely specific to the device and flash method(s) used as well as the applications loaded and a slew of other factors, it is still just a loose "hold your finger to the wind" type of thing that is still interesting....
Myself? I always look to see what the latest info is on the NBD, TNT, and TNE fronts.... and when it comes time, I usually end up trying all three as well as throwing in Mfrazz and others when I see something new from them... All in all, every one of them has occupied my rom for months at a time....
Right now I'm running TNT.1457 and everything works... the apps I have bog it down a bit and I don't use Touch or HTC Home.... the memory usage is pretty good with ~21 MB free after all my Today plugins and such are loaded... battery life is a little scary but that's the way I use my phone... a Cingular 8125.... I see NBD X has come out.... been drooling just thinking about it....
So the best ROM for My Usage? I lean towards NBD and TNT the most... they seem to match my usage patterns of my phone the best....
My $.02 (and I'll probably get change)
Wolverine
Thread Closed
Reason : "Which ROM is the Best" type.
Seriously guys, just try a few and you'll see for yourselves which you like more.
Read the ROM threads and see what other people say about it.
Try it and make up your own opinion.
BUT PLEASE,
STOP STARTING THESE THREADS !
I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
and the dumbest post award goes to ....
charly_mx said:
and the dumbest post award goes to ....
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Is this really necessary?
waleed786 said:
I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
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If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
dharvey4651 said:
Is this really necessary?
If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
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Very true,the best ever Rom I have tried so far and specially the 10mb ppool
I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
I use XM6r3, it has given me no problems at all. I have tried many other roms and felt this was the best for my needs. Are there faster roms? I did like tnt, I tried a couple different builds (including touchflo which I don't care for) and after configuring and installing all my normal things, XM6r3 seemed to run faster. Available memory was almost =. I do like some of the bug fixes TNT has.
You think your question should be easy to answer, but really your asking what is the best car manufacturer, who has the best tasting beer. In time you will find one you like. I initially flashed my brains out with everything I could get my usb cable on, but now, I just want something that gets it done.
Jeff
ADB100 said:
I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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The best thing that you can do for yourself is simply read up on everything involved with your wizard first. Is it unlocked? Is it G3 or G4? Does it have an IPL and SPL higher then 2.XX ? Please don't answer these questions to me. I am simply giving you some things to follow up on in your research, so that you can avoid ending up with a Brick.
Personally I have been using my own cooked Cross bred version, although I really like the look of It's Right 1933. I may have to cross breed something there.
Good Luck
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
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Nothing too major. I modified a few .RGU files to remove some settings I don't like (Wireless on the Today screen is one I can think of), replaced the various TNT skin customisations with the default ones, replaced the Calc1 with the original Calculator, removed the themes and added my own, customised my own 'Office Mobile' folder, added battery status with my own settings, removed some unused applications and replaced them with some of my own. I replaced some of the included packages with the same ones I have that I have had continued sucess with - i.e. the various media related packages that all have reliance on certain codecs and system files that everyone seems to have issues with (Audio Manager, Voice Recorder, Streaming Media, Camera & MMS). I also included my Personal Stuff and locale settings in a custom .RGU file as well as changed the Autorun stuff to launch my own extended ROM. Oh and I have my own custom splash screens (which it took me a while to get installed and it really pi$$ed me off when I used to install a new ROM and these got overwritten..... )
Basically when I flash my ROM (or hard reset) there are minimal changes that I need to make and no software to manually install to get it back the way I like it (my VoIP settings, a Certificate and TT get installed from my extended ROM).
I am currently using the 'HyperCore' kitchen but have used others with similar results. Using the HyperCore you must follow the instructions since it is easy to miss a step and end up with a partially 'dead' Wizard.
HTH
Andy
Starting this thread was a bad idea. Sorry I didn't saw it yesterday
Reasons :
[*]This has been posted too many times before.
[*]The "Best ROM" for you is the one YOU like most. You'll have to try a few on your own to figure out which one works best for you.
[*]Everybody will give you different answers so you won't get much out of it.
[*]ROMs don't act the same on all devices. One ROM that works perfect on my device it might not work the same on yours or any other one here. You don't trust me ? Do a benchmark on your PDA..then ask someone else to do a benchmark on his PDA with same ROM and you'll see differences.
In case that didn't convinced you, here's a small list of similar threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263035
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339408
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335642
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333120
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306917
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330668
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324876
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324156
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319941
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317901
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316778
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314646
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314497
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312774
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310934
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309041
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295777
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The list can continue. "This is but a fraction of the monster..."
So I'm thinking about flashing to a new r.o.m....here's what I'm looking for:
Run PlanPlus for Outlook 5.0 as fast & reliably as possible.
Run everything as fast as possible...reliably.
Recommendations?
Dutty dual V2 nothing out there beats this in speed and reliability!!!!
V3 is not as reliable and definitly slower IMHO
manimore said:
Dutty dual V2 nothing out there beats this in speed and reliability!!!!
V3 is not as reliable and definitly slower IMHO
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Run PlanPlus for Outlook 5.0 as fast & reliably as possible...is this the best way to go to do this as well?
Do you have experience with PlanPlus for Outlook 5.0?
manimore said:
Dutty dual V2 nothing out there beats this in speed and reliability!!!!
V3 is not as reliable and definitly slower IMHO
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Who agrees or disagrees. Why?
manimore said:
Dutty dual V2 nothing out there beats this in speed and reliability!!!!
V3 is not as reliable and definitly slower IMHO
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er...i would say schaps, q-mobile and alex's roms would be the fastest and reliables..
dutty's (no offence here) includes a huge repository of apps installed, more than half which are never used by most people..
i don't know who here uses panplus, so you might have to test this out yourself. Gotta understand, the least application on your phone, the faster it'll be, so the ultra clean roms are the fastest.
I'm running alex's multimedia 1.6 and it's really fast with 157MB left for you to install whatever you want. I tried XDA live but it's too stripped down. it's super fast if you want speed.
so many options as many people
I went through many of these ROMs and my two recommendations:
Helmi's AKU0.7.0_4 clean
Alex's UltraClean V4
both are superfast and superstable, no bunch of who-would-ever-use-that-app in 'em
But you have to try yourself and you will see which will suit you best.
Q-Mobile 1.2
I vote for Q-Mobile 1.2 which will be released tomorrow morning MST But of course I'd have to vote for my own hehe.
Dutty's V3 Final.... I tried them all. The guy that said it is slow DOES NOT know WTF he's talking about.
Schaps is introducing a new ROM tonight, but like all of his other ROMs for sure will be buggy and he will of course disappear for a week before he would answer a question, or repair a glitch in his own ROM.
No one is asking anyone to upload a rom or use any of the cooked roms out there. But as a courtesy of both user and producer, I feel support is important.
Dutty has been here everyday responding to inquiries and questions, and will answer almost all questions. Of course there is a limit to one can do, but in Schaps case, he is too busy with other things and too involved in too many projects I think.
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Dutty's V3 Final.... I tried them all. The guy that said it is slow DOES NOT know WTF he's talking about.
Schaps is introducing a new ROM tonight, but like all of his other ROMs for sure will be buggy and he will of course disappear for a week before he would answer a question, or repair a glitch in his own ROM.
No one is asking anyone to upload a rom or use any of the cooked roms out there. But as a courtesy of both user and producer, I feel support is important.
Dutty has been here everyday responding to inquiries and questions, and will answer almost all questions. Of course there is a limit to one can do, but in Schaps case, he is too busy with other things and too involved in too many projects I think.
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I absolutely agree about Dutty's support - he's better than any techdesk beating all the "SLAs" to the ground (maybe under )
Every wm6.1 rom I flash, have the same result: lag! (I DO a hard reset after each new rom). Tried Dutty's, orginal HTC's, Alex, etc, etc.
Sometimes wm is running smoothly for a while, but most of the time the lag is terrible, sometimes the delay is even more then 5 seconds!
Anyone have the same experience (and more important: anyone who knows how to fix this)?
Very strange... I have not had any issues so far and I have flashed every WM 6.1 rom that has been posted thus far. What radio version are you running with the WM 6.1 builds?
Tried all tree radio's. Never had problems with sound, camera, gps, but every time 'the lag is back'.
Is it possible it has something to do with a combi of pagepool and cache-settings?
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Every wm6.1 rom I flash, have the same result: lag! (I DO a hard reset after each new rom). Tried Dutty's, orginal HTC's, Alex, etc, etc.
Sometimes wm is running smoothly for a while, but most of the time the lag is terrible, sometimes the delay is even more then 5 seconds!
Anyone have the same experience (and more important: anyone who knows how to fix this)?
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Try running Alex's 1.62 AT&T build. That thing is pretty freaking fast Got a great SPB benchmarking score of 436 according to my testing.
Is the 1.62 rom WM6.1?
Can I use an ATT Tilt rom on a non ATT phone (Dutch MDA Vario III Tmobile)? Never tried that, because of all the warnings about ATT and non ATT phones/radio's/etc.
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Is the 1.62 rom WM6.1?
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No it is not. But it does have a lot of updated drivers & Bluetooth fixes. Check the official post regarding this.
It was running very smoothly for me, even the non cooked one.
This ROM was actually released on HTC's website as an official update to the Tilts.
I agree, it is so laggy i went to Alex's 6.1 because he does great work but i did notice it was very slow and would lock up most of the time. i tried all the radio's same issue even tried just clearing out my phone thinking it was a program causing a conflict and same issue. i ended up going back to Alex's 6.0ROM and all is good in the hood once again
btw if you real this ALEX you rock
i hope that this is not some "FLUKE" bug that happens to a small amount of people and wont get reviewed by the higher powers as a issue.
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Every wm6.1 rom I flash, have the same result: lag! (I DO a hard reset after each new rom). Tried Dutty's, orginal HTC's, Alex, etc, etc.
Sometimes wm is running smoothly for a while, but most of the time the lag is terrible, sometimes the delay is even more then 5 seconds!
Anyone have the same experience (and more important: anyone who knows how to fix this)?
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Lagging? Are you comparing that lag to original ATT roms or one of Dutty's/Sleuth/cooked roms? compared to dualtouch v4(dutty), ive found some lag as well, but not compared to ATT's, blazing compared to ATT...
If you've try many roms already? Can I ask are you using a task manager?
Tweaks; cooked roms are already tweak to better suit them.
I am using Dutty's 6.1 Official, and I love it to death. I had used his beta and it had a lot of bugs and was laggy so I had to revert back, however his new rom is gorgeous (THANKS DUTTY), it is very smooth and other than not being able to soft reset through the power switch, there is no lag and I am using radio 1.58.26.20
Oh its a tilt
I agree, I tried three 6.1 ROMs including the latest Dutty's ROM which I am currently on... and they all lag...
Also notice a problem when I go to the call logs screen and press the red endkey button to go to the home
thanks for this thread. I was considering flashing, but after this I'll stick to my stock rom till official upgrade. I am on wm6 t-mob uk and after tweaks I cannot see the reason to flash anything else anyway. the device is rock solid and snappy enough.
cheers
bro
stay out of the kitchen...
i dont know why a thread like this is created... utter nonsense if you ask me. ive only noticed all positive changes with wm6.1 with no lag... in fact... my video is exceptionally faster on the newer roms. especially sleuth or duttys. a lot of these chefs pour their heart into these meals... if you cant enjoy them... too bad, cause some of us love what they do and appreciate how much more awesome our devices are with each new build. keep up the good work guys... youre heading in the right direction... there is LESS lag... considerably
bronx said:
thanks for this thread. I was considering flashing, but after this I'll stick to my stock rom till official upgrade. I am on wm6 t-mob uk and after tweaks I cannot see the reason to flash anything else anyway. the device is rock solid and snappy enough.
cheers
bro
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I can not agree more. the stock rom I have, WWE Tytn II , equipped with tons and tons of cabs I found here is stable at 99.9 %. Though Dutties Rom gives an almost 1800 VSbenchmark and mine only 1392, I do not complain.
Videoclips lag, though I found out that theyd DO play better when using the "X" bottom before, stopping all open applications.
I am eager to flash, but only when a guaranteed stable and quick cooked 6.1 ROM will offer me further a fuzz-free environment.
EDIT 1: No, I have no lag what so ever.
EDIT 2: I owe a lot of respect for all chefs spending plenty of hours on their work (hobby?) helping this community. I just wait for the one who might have "the ultimate ROM" .Fair no?
(i am playing with the 3D.dll 's further on meawhile hehe)
Keyboard\Screen lag
I promise that lag will be gone if you flash mine
Commercial for myself but I fixed the screen\keyboard lag
My base is latest Vodafone 6.1 ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366014
Cheers,
Leo
Michaelr219 said:
i dont know why a thread like this is created... utter nonsense if you ask me. ive only noticed all positive changes with wm6.1 with no lag... in fact... my video is exceptionally faster on the newer roms. especially sleuth or duttys. a lot of these chefs pour their heart into these meals... if you cant enjoy them... too bad, cause some of us love what they do and appreciate how much more awesome our devices are with each new build. keep up the good work guys... youre heading in the right direction... there is LESS lag... considerably
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well, there is a reason why people are complaining: all WM6.1 ROMS (till now) are considerably slower than the recent cooked WM6.0 ROMS.
At least according to "objective" tests like SPB Benchmark and VS Benchmark the WM6.1 still can't catch up the WM6.0's..
So the feeling of lagginess (does this word exist?) is understandable.
But our cooks are working so only a matter of time???.
Ariel_S said:
Lagging? Are you comparing that lag to original ATT roms or one of Dutty's/Sleuth/cooked roms? compared to dualtouch v4(dutty), ive found some lag as well, but not compared to ATT's, blazing compared to ATT...
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Compared to wm6 roms. They are really fast, but all wm6.1 roms I tried aren't....
Michaelr219 said:
i dont know why a thread like this is created... utter nonsense if you ask me. ive only noticed all positive changes with wm6.1 with no lag... in fact... my video is exceptionally faster on the newer roms. especially sleuth or duttys. a lot of these chefs pour their heart into these meals... if you cant enjoy them... too bad, cause some of us love what they do and appreciate how much more awesome our devices are with each new build. keep up the good work guys... youre heading in the right direction... there is LESS lag... considerably
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Maybe utter nonsense for your device, so be happy with THAT in stead of putting words in somebodies mouth.... On my device there IS lag... and I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK OF ALL THE CHEFS! Threads like this have the intension of helping people with problems with upgrading.
Having said that.... all others: thanx for the advice sofar. Any suggestions on pagepool & cache settings fixing the lagproblem on some devices are welcome And for all the chefs I'm gonna use the positive words of Michaelr219: keep up the good work!!!
hello again.
sorry if it's going to be an offtop, but after reading Your posts some things have crossed my mind.
back in the days when I was quite happy owner of vario II (wm 5 out of the box) exciting thing have happened. when I was browsing through these forums I've spotted a wm6 rom for my device. that was something. just like jumping from w95 to xp on pc. almost everything seemed to be different. I was using black flavour (best regards jasjamming wherever You are now Mate) with various versions. flashing addiction was quite understandable then, as we were improving our devices A LOT.
now with vario III I am wondering why people are trying hard to fix things that are not broken? I am not bashing anyone's work, I have a lot of love for all the so called cooks for their free contribution, but I don't understand what is this fuss all about.
as I read more and more I learn, that 6.1 is not that great at all. ppl are asking how to switch off threaded sms, pie is still unusable(ish) and now the info that roms are slower than 6.
so can please guy who said to stay out explain to me what's so good with those 6.1 that I cannot have with 6? I am not flaming or whatever, maybe I just lost something while diggin' through all those threads.
I also said, that imo it's not a bad idea to hold on for offcial roms given official way, as they are tend to be more solid and complete.
just my five cents
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Hi guys,
I'd like to try a custom ROM again, but with the almost 100s available I'd rather ask the question - I'm looking for a normal standard Raphael ROM with just the standard apps on as it came out on the Raphael.
So basicly just a straight dump from Raphael HTC rom to go onto a Kaiser (with the neccesary tweaks of course to make it work). No other personalised apps, schemes, etc etc.
Are there something like this?
You probably can port a ROM from Raphael.
stoutseun said:
Hi guys,
I'd like to try a custom ROM again, but with the almost 100s available I'd rather ask the question - I'm looking for a normal standard Raphael ROM with just the standard apps on as it came out on the Raphael.
So basicly just a straight dump from Raphael HTC rom to go onto a Kaiser (with the neccesary tweaks of course to make it work). No other personalised apps, schemes, etc etc.
Are there something like this?
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Well seeing as how the Raphael has TF3D, that narrows your search down to about 2 ROMS L26 V4 or -G-'s SE TF3D! But if you are looking for simple and easy for daily use without alot of tweaking you are not going to want TF3D! I would go with -G-'s SE TF2D or Hyperdragon Raphael build! You are going to get alot of suggetions because ROMs are different for each person, the easy thing to do is ask but the best thing to do is try them out and gain valuable exp for yourself!
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Well seeing as how the Raphael has TF3D, that narrows your search down to about 2 ROMS L26 V4 or -G-'s SE TF3D! But if you are looking for simple and easy for daily use without alot of tweaking you are not going to want TF3D! I would go with -G-'s SE TF2D or Hyperdragon Raphael build! You are going to get alot of suggetions because ROMs are different for each person, the easy thing to do is ask but the best thing to do is try them out and gain valuable exp for yourself!
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He could also look at -G-'s SE TL ROM. Gives about the same functionality as TF3D but is usable on daily basis
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
dashmaster1000 said:
Well seeing as how the Raphael has TF3D, that narrows your search down to about 2 ROMS L26 V4 or -G-'s SE TF3D! But if you are looking for simple and easy for daily use without alot of tweaking you are not going to want TF3D! I would go with -G-'s SE TF2D or Hyperdragon Raphael build! You are going to get alot of suggetions because ROMs are different for each person, the easy thing to do is ask but the best thing to do is try them out and gain valuable exp for yourself!
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you forgot anryls roms
msd24200 said:
you forgot anryls roms
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Right, my bad! I guess I should have just said try them all! All the ROMs here are works of art!
dashmaster1000 said:
Well seeing as how the Raphael has TF3D, that narrows your search down to about 2 ROMS L26 V4 or -G-'s SE TF3D! But if you are looking for simple and easy for daily use without alot of tweaking you are not going to want TF3D! I would go with -G-'s SE TF2D or Hyperdragon Raphael build! You are going to get alot of suggetions because ROMs are different for each person, the easy thing to do is ask but the best thing to do is try them out and gain valuable exp for yourself!
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Or the ROM I'm currently using. Or just do like we did and try them, everyone's opinion here is definitely different. YMMV
flash, flash, flash no sleep needed you will find the rom you like, then sleep
stylez said:
flash, flash, flash no sleep needed you will find the rom you like, then sleep
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ROFL!! Right, once you pop you cant stop!
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ROFL!! Right, once you pop you cant stop!
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There should be some sort of goverment guidelines for flashing, there is but not in this variety
stylez said:
There should be some sort of goverment guidelines for flashing, there is but not in this variety
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Yea, I get strange looks from my girl when I tell her I have been flashing all day!
Guys,
actually, have you paid attention to your programme memory of all those different roms. I found dutty's last one has the most programme memory 95M which I think was the reason why it is so fast and stable..
what do you think?
NooWay said:
Guys,
actually, have you paid attention to your programme memory of all those different roms. I found dutty's last one has the most programme memory 95M which I think was the reason why it is so fast and stable..
what do you think?
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95mb not free but overall right?
this because have 6mb poolpage with this way have more mb free.. but is not so fast than dynamic pagepool
There are two types of people here, those that like flashing new ROMs every chance they get, and if I were a psychiatrist, I would diagnose those with ADD ( Attention Deficit Disorder candidates), and those that want a stable ROM that they would show it off to their friends, and keep it for a long time; a ROM that is reliable and fast and has many programs. The first type of people are adventurous however when they flash a new ROM, and if it glitches a bit, they get frustrated and wished they would have stayed with their previous ROM. BUT they go on and try other ROMs for hopes they come across one that is even better than their previous one they liked.
So which person are you? do you intend to flash often for the sake of flashing or you just want one that has most user programs and looks somewhat good? OK ... let us know and we'll guide you then toward the "Ultimate" ROM that would satisfies your curiosity and fits your personality.
To be honest, I've tried all Dutty's, L26, Hyperdragon, PDACorner, Garmin (3 editions) and I'm still unable to choose one !
When he was active Dutty was the best, but now all these ROMs are just beautiful, and I've been flashing for a couple of days, and still unable to make my choice.
It becomes frustrating at the end, because our Chefs are so great that they release a new ROM each week...
As someone said before (forgot who, sorry)
"You're like a kid in a candy shop".
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...and those that want a stable ROM that they would show it off to their friends, and keep it for a long time; a ROM that is reliable and fast and has many programs. The first type of people are adventurous however when they flash a new ROM, and if it glitches a bit, they get frustrated and wished they would have stayed with their previous ROM. BUT they go on and try other ROMs for hopes they come across one that is even better than their previous one they liked.
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Hehe, very true! I've done the ROM hopping on the Kaiser and previous Vox, but is now more after the stable quick easy-to-use one ;-) Hence i actually moved back to a standard HTC ROM (but there's still that customization side that needs tickling...)
Thanks for the replies so far.. I'll the ones mentioned.
stylez said:
flash, flash, flash no sleep needed you will find the rom you like, then sleep
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I always tend to flash that rom too, and then the cycle starts over again flashing over and over again. I can't go a weak without trying something different!
Jason
stoutseun said:
Hehe, very true! I've done the ROM hopping on the Kaiser and previous Vox, but is now more after the stable quick easy-to-use one ;-) Hence i actually moved back to a standard HTC ROM (but there's still that customization side that needs tickling...)
Thanks for the replies so far.. I'll the ones mentioned.
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I got my tilt about 3 months ago, and have been flashing constantly! Yet to find the right one for me! All of them are good, but not perfect for me. And I dont want to cook, cuz I am too lazy! So I will keep flashing, but finding a perfect ROM is never going to happen!!
asfoor said:
There are two types of people here, those that like flashing new ROMs every chance they get, and if I were a psychiatrist, I would diagnose those with ADD ( Attention Deficit Disorder candidates), and those that want a stable ROM that they would show it off to their friends, and keep it for a long time; a ROM that is reliable and fast and has many programs. The first type of people are adventurous however when they flash a new ROM, and if it glitches a bit, they get frustrated and wished they would have stayed with their previous ROM. BUT they go on and try other ROMs for hopes they come across one that is even better than their previous one they liked.
So which person are you? do you intend to flash often for the sake of flashing or you just want one that has most user programs and looks somewhat good? OK ... let us know and we'll guide you then toward the "Ultimate" ROM that would satisfies your curiosity and fits your personality.
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I wouldn't completely classify myself in the first category, as I know quite what I want and I know it isn't there yet. I love M3D roms and I do enjoy packing it full of features and everything. I have run L26's M3D rom for a while, and I just tried -G-'s for a day yesterday. But then many times those roms have enough issues pop up that make the phone basically unusable, and then I will back track to either a M2D rom, or even a HTC Home rom just for speed, stability, and in the case of the HTC Home roms, flawless landscape support. Then after a week or two, I start looking at the M3D roms again, hoping that there have been some fixes and work arounds and I start trying it again, and the cycle goes again!
And for what you mentioned about wishing to put the previous rom on there...Norton Ghost would be a great product for these phones!
Jason