Since I last tried Linux about 6 months ago and found it to be almost suitable to my computing needs, it appears that most of the issues I had have been corrected. However, in that time, I obtained a Windows Mobile phone (Dopod 838pro). Knowing that there's issues with synchronizing WM6 with Linux, I'd like to enquire who's done it and what sort of issues they experienced?
On a similar note, I'm aware that it is extremely difficult to get data out of Outlook into any similar program. Perhaps someone could suggest ways to solve this? I have been considering getting an exchange server subscription as my free email has unfortunately become unreliable of late. The deciding factor on whether I go this route or just get a gMail account will be whether there is a Linux client compatible with Exchange Server so that I can use Wireless ActiveSync with my phone (and hence get instant alerts on my mobile - note, this is not overly important to me as my email comes in infrequently anyway and is not overly urgent).
To summarize what is otherwise a long statement, my questions are as follows:
What are the issues involved in synching a Windows Mobile 6 phone with Linux?
Are there Linux email clients compatible with Microsoft Exchange Server and by extension Wireless ActiveSync?
What are your recommendations for a cheap but reliable Exchange Server based service if these exist?
If Wireless ActiveSync is not a viable solution to this problem, how might I get my email/contacts/calendar out of Outlook and into an equivalent Linux program?
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Wich linux do you have ??
I founded some solution on french ubuntu forums some times ago, il should exist on english forum too : look there :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=528770&highlight=smartphone
Regards
Alot of this has been answered in other forums on XDA ..try doing a search...keywords of interest:
Free Exchange: Mail2web.com
Syncing: synce and finchsync
Other keywords: wm5torage and pimbackup
famewolf said:
Alot of this has been answered in other forums on XDA ..try doing a search...keywords of interest:
Free Exchange: Mail2web.com
Syncing: synce and finchsync
Other keywords: wm5torage and pimbackup
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or you could try being helpful and give the OP some real usefull info:
for using synce:
http://www.synce.org/index.php/Windows_Mobile_2005_HCL#HTC_TyTN
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or you could try being helpful and give the OP some real usefull info:
http://www.synce.org/index.php/Windows_Mobile_2005_HCL#HTC_TyTN
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Yes and I suppose I could go over to his house and setup the sync for him too. I gave him what he needed to find the articles already posted on this forum. I run linux and don't even use synce...I use mail2web....I gave him several CHOICES and he can evaluate which one he prefers.
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Yes and I suppose I could go over to his house and setup the sync for him too. I gave him what he needed to find the articles already posted on this forum. I run linux and don't even use synce...I use mail2web....I gave him several CHOICES and he can evaluate which one he prefers.
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I have seen many messages go by discussing what is the best software for instant messaging. Up until recently, I had been using Agile Messenger. It was quite unstable when I first started using it a couple of years ago, but it is much better now. There is a cost now, which I think is high, but I would be willing to pay. Before buying into Agile though, I felt I should review my other options, and I have run into problems with each. Can anyone either help me get past these problems, or perhaps suggest another solution? Here are the programs I have tried and the problems I have experienced.
Agile Messenger - I have become very happy with the software, but I am not fond of subscriptions. I would much prefer to be able to buy the software outright. I may be able to get over that, but I discovered something else. I like to try the different ROM's that show up on this board and I have noticed that my customer ID in Agile changes with the different ROM's. Does this mean I need to buy a new license each time I change my ROM? I have written email to Agile about this and a couple of other questions and I have never heard back. I am concerned about the lack of support. There are also security questions that have been presented elsewhere on this board about having a middleman handle your connection to the various chat services since the middleman needs to know the username and password to connect.
IM+ - I tried this program, and I like the fact that I can purchase it and be done. I also like that it seems to connect directly to the chat services, thus getting rid of the middleman problem mentioned above. I have been experiencing a problem though where I appear to be online, both from my side, and from the side of my buddies, but messages do not go through. I have also experienced situations where I have successfully sent messages to friends, they replied, but I did not receive the replies. I find this type of unreliability to be intolerable, especially since you can not tell if it is happening. As far as you know, you are sending messages but your friends are not responding when they very well might be. I have tried reinstalling after a hard reset with the same problem.
IMOV - From what I can tell, this is just a XMPP (Jabber, Google..) client. It relies on relays on the Internet to access any other chat system such as AOL, or Yahoo. This introduces the problem with the middleman above, but further, these relays are practically anonymous. At least with Agile, I have some idea (though not a perfect one) who I am entrusting my credentials to. I do not have that with the relays used by XMPP. I guess I could research the available relays and find one I trust, but I am not looking to do that right now.
Verichat - I have not tried this in a while. It is another subscription based system and is a middleman. I guess my thought is that if I am going to pay an ongoing fee AND have a middleman, I would rather have Agile.
Okay, this has gotten to be a long post, but I think it presents my current position. I communicate with users of AOL, Yahoo, Google, and MSN. I can not get all of them to see reason and just all change to IRC or XMPP :-D
I am running this on a Universal (i-Mate Jasjar) with Windows Mobile 5. I am posting in general because I am sure this is a topic that affects many of the XDA phones.
Thanks for any input you can provide.
As far as IRC is concerned, don't forget to check out my IRC-related roundups - I've cross-posted some of the latest ones here in the General forum too.
I have just discovered those. I have given thought to using IRC, but I do not know if I need yet another transport to become dependant on. If I had it all to do over again, I would select IRC and / or XMPP for how open they are and ignore anyone who refused to do the same. (In a perfect world.. )
Octro: Gtalk
There is also Octro which is a Google Chat program that can do chat and VOIP even over a 1x connection (uses the jabber connection).
http://www.octro.com/
It's only for Google right now but the developers have noted that they will add AIM, Y!, MSN, etc later on (it's still in beta).
The VOIP part is really neat. It's not perfect but it is much less resource intensive than Skype and feels more "phone like" when you get an incoming call.
We have an ongoing thread where here at ppcgeeks.com where the developer pops in (they're very good at fixing bugs, adding features, etc.)
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/octro-new-im-client-w-voip-support-1-05-on-1-3-07-t1459.html#12485
The software is free right now but there will be a cost later. For me, this software has the most potential out of all the other programs if only b/c it's being developed now and you the user can help make it better...
Octro looks good..
I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?
Octro adds AIM, ICQ and MSN
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I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?
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Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.
yea im also looking into some other options since i upgraded my rom. they discontinued verichat so unless you have your old license (if you bought it) its not going to work. im using octro now and it seems to be working fine. i tried installing agile but theyre files are all messed up. any more suggestions?
Not Quite sure how aim is incorporated.
How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.
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How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.
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Menu/Option/Accounts/Legacy Accounts
GoogleTalk must be online
or RTFM
Welcome to this forum
There is a new one that does them all (AIM, MSN, GTalk, Yahoo, ICQ, and Jabber) that is currently free and Java based. I quit using IM+ (which I paid for) and am using it exclusively. Currently the beta testing is closed while I think they upgrade their servers, but should open up again shortly I think).
It is supposed to be for the crackberries, but works great on my Dash and K-Jam:
http://www.bbhub.com/2007/01/25/jivetalk-im-beta-available-to-try/
http://blackberryforums.pinstack.com/17577-jivetalk_beta_multi_client_im_application.html
-Mc
malatesta said:
Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.
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Thanks for this. Haven't heard of them yet. Ima give it a try now. If it's works great and isn't subsciption based like Agile, I'm down...
anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA
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anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA
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You mean Octro? It's working great under WM6 - have been testing it.
I'll publish a big roundup of all these apps in the next 1-2 days - stay tuned
hey anyone know of one that will use http proxy?
See http://forum.xda-developers.com:80/showthread.php?t=294938 for a preview of the article (sorry, it has a typo: Ocrp vs Octro. I'll fix this in the final version.)
I've been using Octro 1.09 on my 8525 on t-mobile. I prefer it to Agile. The voice function works but not very well. Excessive delay and feedback requires use of a headset. I can tether to my laptop and use GTalk and the voice is flawless. I'm hoping they work on the voice feature more. Other than issues with voice Octro is excellent.
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RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07
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RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07
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Then, surely a new version comes really soon.
so nothing that works via http (8080) proxy?
Hi. I'm running a T-Mobile Dash with Windows Mobile 6, and I'm looking for a free IM client that can connect to AIM, at least. I know Windows Live gives me Pocket MSNIM, but only a tiny minority of my friends use that. The on-board Oz Instant Messenger refuses to work with AT&T, and I just get error messages, so I'm kind of at a stand-still right now.
The other thing I'm looking for is a lower priority, I'm trying to find an SSH client for my SmartPhone too. PocketPuTTY, I've heard of, but I can't seem to find it. Again, I'm cheap, so I'm hoping for something free.
There's one catch to all this: I'm running a Mac, so EXE installers are no-go. CABs and SFX (Self-Extracting ZIPs) are usable, but anything more complex isn't going to work.
Thanks for all the help!
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Hi. I'm running a T-Mobile Dash with Windows Mobile 6, and I'm looking for a free IM client that can connect to AIM, at least. I know Windows Live gives me Pocket MSNIM, but only a tiny minority of my friends use that. The on-board Oz Instant Messenger refuses to work with AT&T, and I just get error messages, so I'm kind of at a stand-still right now.
The other thing I'm looking for is a lower priority, I'm trying to find an SSH client for my SmartPhone too. PocketPuTTY, I've heard of, but I can't seem to find it. Again, I'm cheap, so I'm hoping for something free.
There's one catch to all this: I'm running a Mac, so EXE installers are no-go. CABs and SFX (Self-Extracting ZIPs) are usable, but anything more complex isn't going to work.
Thanks for all the help!
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Welcome to XDA-Dev
Rule of thumb: follow my articles - I've published full Bibles and roundups on almost all aspects of handheld computing. Your question is answered in the Smartphone General forum, at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323654
Let me know if you need help in extracing the CAB file of any EXE installers - I'll upload it for you.
Oohh, useful!
Well, thank you. Your article was thorough, and (in the end) informative. I was aware of Mundu, IM+ and Imov messengers, and I was hoping someone had an alternative to them that was free. Your article eventually lead me to the Basic version of Imov, but the problem is that it's one of those set-up EXEs that I can't seem to crack. I've managed to find a download of Imov Basic 1.22, and I'd be willing to provide it for you.
Thank you for the offer, and all the help.
is there any cracked verson available for mundu
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is there any cracked verson available for mundu
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i downloaded the trial from the verizon get apps feature on my i760 and it gave me the full version i think. registration says Valid till forever. probably easier to just say registered but it really does say till forever LOL
IM App
Have you tried Palringo yet?
Fring is a free IM app too(Just released a new version today that supports AIM). Palringo is pretty good too.
Kichigai said:
Hi. I'm running a T-Mobile Dash with Windows Mobile 6, and I'm looking for a free IM client that can connect to AIM, at least. I know Windows Live gives me Pocket MSNIM, but only a tiny minority of my friends use that. The on-board Oz Instant Messenger refuses to work with AT&T, and I just get error messages, so I'm kind of at a stand-still right now.
The other thing I'm looking for is a lower priority, I'm trying to find an SSH client for my SmartPhone too. PocketPuTTY, I've heard of, but I can't seem to find it. Again, I'm cheap, so I'm hoping for something free.
There's one catch to all this: I'm running a Mac, so EXE installers are no-go. CABs and SFX (Self-Extracting ZIPs) are usable, but anything more complex isn't going to work.
Thanks for all the help!
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Since I don't see it mentioned, you may be able to use PocketPuTTY,
http://www.pocketputty.net/ ,
for a SSH application. It works for me. The file that you download while named PocketPuTTY.exe is a Windows Mobile binary. Just copy it to your phone and run it. Hope it works for you.
So regarding IM clients Do they all use webgateways provided by the Makers. Are there any that directly connect to the AIM, Yahoo!, and MSN Servers?
Not that I walk around wearing a tinfoil hat. but I just like to know where my data is being sent.
Octro Chat uses one. But I can't find any info as to if mundu uses one. If they all use it I will get over it but I was just curious is anyone knew.
pocket putty doesnt run on smartphones just ppc. i am also looking for a free shh client for smartphone (wm standard)
if your looking for just aim..this is about as good as your gonna get lol
so.. i've mailed HTC about the exchange client not syncing if the exchange server requires a pin code...
ME:
hi, i have a htc magic and im really happy with it. the only thing i cant get to work is the activesync client. which, from what i can read from the net doesnt support exchange servers that requires pin. ive tried to download dataviz roadsync which can handle the exchange sync with no problem, but roadsync cant sync calendars. and i want to be able to use the built in activesync client.. so my questions is: when will you upgrade the activesync client to support the pin (enterprise security?) function??? this is a vital part of my everyday work
HTC:
Dear Fredrik, Thank you for contacting HTC Europe, and thank you for your feedback. As you state in your email the Exchange Server application does not at this moment support pin security. We don't have the information if and when that will be available. I would advice you to state your question to the Android Developer team at developer.android.com to see if they could supply you with more information. (We at HTC are only involved in software development that seams our specific phones to suit the Android OS). If you have any further questions or queries, feel free to get back to us at any time. Kind Regards Dave Montanya HTC Europe
seems to me that they're saying, "we didnt develope the 'activesync' client, go ask google".. but how come this software is only on the htc branded phones? so i replied with:
ME:
hi again, thanks for your answer, but from what i can understand, from what i've read online, the software for syncing with exchange in my HTC branded Magic is developed by you guys at HTC, because you cant find this software on the regular google branded htc Magic phones. best regards fredrik
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HTC:
Thank you for your quick reply. I apologize for my earlier reply, you are indeed correct that HTC develops the inbuilt Exchange Server application (I had to double check this). Unfortunately as for now I can neither confirm or deny whether pin security or certificate support will be supported by a future upgrade or not. The Android OS is a very new OS and I personally believe that the support for the above functionality will be included by future updates (this is my personal opinion and not that of HTC Europe). Kind Regards Dave Montanya HTC Europe
ME:
thanks for the fast response! i hope that it will be implented very soon as stated in my first mail, this is a vital part of my daily work and i dont want to go back to using my old phone can you let me know when you hear anything about the pin security function? Because this is a big issue, practically all the big companys that uses exchange has pin security activated. So im far from alone with this problem thanks again, Fredrik
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HTC:
Thank you for your quick reply, I do understand the importance for you using this. In the meantime, feel free to look for alternative applications such as Roadsync or the other available Exchange Server applications on the market.
If I get any more information within a reasonable time, I will let you know by email.
Kind Regards
Dave Montanya
HTC Europe
i guess thats the end of it
ill uppdate if i ever get that mail from Dave.
Interesting matter! I'm not too interested in exchange support because I use gmail I hope you can tear out some more info
I would rather that they didn't implement any MS-crap as it only serves to propagate the repression. Force people to upgrade to something that isn't proprietary instead.
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I would rather that they didn't implement any MS-crap as it only serves to propagate the repression. Force people to upgrade to something that isn't proprietary instead.
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So you don't want me using the phone then?
My company uses Exchange, so I need that integration...
You think companies will stop using exchange cause people like android?
I have just discovered Open Market and it is quite frankly a bit more reach in free apps.
Look for OpnMarket
I would like people to use this thread to share the best apps for HTC HD2.
Come on have your say.
Mine so far is WIFI Remote Access v1.00
Enables to browse the content of your Windows Phone 6.5 or Windows Mobile 6.0, 6.1 device from your computer's web browser using a WIFI connection without installing anything on your computer!
Hi Ive tried the open market and its ok , too bad that there aint more like open market where you can get more apps .
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oshikawa said:
I have just discovered Open Market and it is quite frankly a bit more reach in free apps.
Look for OpnMarket
I would like people to use this thread to share the best apps for HTC HD2.
Come on have your say.
Mine so far is WIFI Remote Access v1.00
Enables to browse the content of your Windows Phone 6.5 or Windows Mobile 6.0, 6.1 device from your computer's web browser using a WIFI connection without installing anything on your computer!
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People would benefit from searching xda developers a bit more thouroughly (or in some cases, at all!) before looking elsewhere for applications. This community has much more to offer than any other single location on the internet (including Wifi Remote Access v1.7)
johncmolyneux said:
People would benefit from searching xda developers a bit more thouroughly (or in some cases, at all!) before looking elsewhere for applications. This community has much more to offer than any other single location on the internet (including Wifi Remote Access v1.7)
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totally agree with you. whatever i'm looking for i usually end up finding it here anyway.
I'm still anxiously waiting for XDA-Marketplace.....! Already there isa version for Android, I'm wondering how long it will take for a WM version, since originally xda-developers was intended for windows mobile... That's the one I want to have!
Can't seem to get Omarket to function properly on my HD2. It requires a login or registration and attempt to register, but it says my information is incorrect...LOL
At first it would say my email was incorrect, and I tried 3 email address, then it says there's an error in the fields.
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Can't seem to get Omarket to function properly on my HD2. It requires a login or registration and attempt to register, but it says my information is incorrect...LOL
At first it would say my email was incorrect, and I tried 3 email address, then it says there's an error in the fields.
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Just go to www.freewarepocketpc.net and register there. it worked for me
first I look at openmarket and after here bc I way easier then here to search the forums. OpenMarket is a must have.
PS: a shame that they try to make another one and dont work together. One place with all stuff, that must be the target
Hi there!
I don't usually start posts 'cause reading yours I find what I'm looking for. But since a long time I have a general question for a particular issue. I found people with the same trouble, but the answer is not clear for me.
Let me make an introduction:
I now own a HTC HD with Windows Mobile 6.5. I'm very satisfied with this device and OS because my needs are fully covered. I'm very comfortable with the speed boost from a custom ROM I installed and it does what I need (calls, music, photo, SMSs, GPS). The point is that this device is getting... old. It has 3 years and... well, it has received several hits... :| So I'm thinking that soon I'm going to need another one. And here's the question: which OS? I don't mind if it is Android, WP, iOS, or whatever... But I've got one essential requirement: Outlook. .... I've got about 15 mail accounts I must control, and thousands of data saved over the years saved in my Outlook on my PC. Now I only need ActiveSync to synchronize the contacts, calendar and appointments. Because of that, don't propose using Gmail or similar. I've got tons of data in my PC and lots of accounts. And I don't want/need a continuous data connection because I DON'T NEED IT and, here in Spain, the prices are abusive...
Another application I use a lot is GPS. I'm very happy with my Tomtom (fast, accurate and I update it when I want) and I HATE WIFI-GPS. What I've seen on friends devices made me hate it. I found it very poor accurate. Maybe it has improved... What do you think?
Well, I see Android and iOS devices of my friends and they didn't think Outlook sync can be done with them. Is it true? Can it be done in some way? Must I keep WM6 to do this? I can't believe that an old concern like this (Outlook is even present in Office 2013) can't be done with these modern and powerful devices!!
So that's the question: can I sync Outlook with a OS/device of nowadays? In which? If not, is there any alternative I may choose?
Thank you for your time!
The best for that purpose would be windows phone. It can be done with android/iOS but its way easier and native on windows phone.
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The best for that purpose would be windows phone. It can be done with android/iOS but its way easier and native on windows phone.
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Thank you lars1216 for throwing a bit of light.
I heard someone who said that Windows 8 won't be compatible with Outlook sync... Hope he was wrong!
So Windows Phone... OK.