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Instant Message (Chat) Software options

I have seen many messages go by discussing what is the best software for instant messaging. Up until recently, I had been using Agile Messenger. It was quite unstable when I first started using it a couple of years ago, but it is much better now. There is a cost now, which I think is high, but I would be willing to pay. Before buying into Agile though, I felt I should review my other options, and I have run into problems with each. Can anyone either help me get past these problems, or perhaps suggest another solution? Here are the programs I have tried and the problems I have experienced.
Agile Messenger - I have become very happy with the software, but I am not fond of subscriptions. I would much prefer to be able to buy the software outright. I may be able to get over that, but I discovered something else. I like to try the different ROM's that show up on this board and I have noticed that my customer ID in Agile changes with the different ROM's. Does this mean I need to buy a new license each time I change my ROM? I have written email to Agile about this and a couple of other questions and I have never heard back. I am concerned about the lack of support. There are also security questions that have been presented elsewhere on this board about having a middleman handle your connection to the various chat services since the middleman needs to know the username and password to connect.
IM+ - I tried this program, and I like the fact that I can purchase it and be done. I also like that it seems to connect directly to the chat services, thus getting rid of the middleman problem mentioned above. I have been experiencing a problem though where I appear to be online, both from my side, and from the side of my buddies, but messages do not go through. I have also experienced situations where I have successfully sent messages to friends, they replied, but I did not receive the replies. I find this type of unreliability to be intolerable, especially since you can not tell if it is happening. As far as you know, you are sending messages but your friends are not responding when they very well might be. I have tried reinstalling after a hard reset with the same problem.
IMOV - From what I can tell, this is just a XMPP (Jabber, Google..) client. It relies on relays on the Internet to access any other chat system such as AOL, or Yahoo. This introduces the problem with the middleman above, but further, these relays are practically anonymous. At least with Agile, I have some idea (though not a perfect one) who I am entrusting my credentials to. I do not have that with the relays used by XMPP. I guess I could research the available relays and find one I trust, but I am not looking to do that right now.
Verichat - I have not tried this in a while. It is another subscription based system and is a middleman. I guess my thought is that if I am going to pay an ongoing fee AND have a middleman, I would rather have Agile.
Okay, this has gotten to be a long post, but I think it presents my current position. I communicate with users of AOL, Yahoo, Google, and MSN. I can not get all of them to see reason and just all change to IRC or XMPP :-D
I am running this on a Universal (i-Mate Jasjar) with Windows Mobile 5. I am posting in general because I am sure this is a topic that affects many of the XDA phones.
Thanks for any input you can provide.

As far as IRC is concerned, don't forget to check out my IRC-related roundups - I've cross-posted some of the latest ones here in the General forum too.

I have just discovered those. I have given thought to using IRC, but I do not know if I need yet another transport to become dependant on. If I had it all to do over again, I would select IRC and / or XMPP for how open they are and ignore anyone who refused to do the same. (In a perfect world.. )

Octro: Gtalk
There is also Octro which is a Google Chat program that can do chat and VOIP even over a 1x connection (uses the jabber connection).
http://www.octro.com/
It's only for Google right now but the developers have noted that they will add AIM, Y!, MSN, etc later on (it's still in beta).
The VOIP part is really neat. It's not perfect but it is much less resource intensive than Skype and feels more "phone like" when you get an incoming call.
We have an ongoing thread where here at ppcgeeks.com where the developer pops in (they're very good at fixing bugs, adding features, etc.)
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/octro-new-im-client-w-voip-support-1-05-on-1-3-07-t1459.html#12485
The software is free right now but there will be a cost later. For me, this software has the most potential out of all the other programs if only b/c it's being developed now and you the user can help make it better...

Octro looks good..
I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?

Octro adds AIM, ICQ and MSN
mrdata1701b said:
I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?
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Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.

yea im also looking into some other options since i upgraded my rom. they discontinued verichat so unless you have your old license (if you bought it) its not going to work. im using octro now and it seems to be working fine. i tried installing agile but theyre files are all messed up. any more suggestions?

Not Quite sure how aim is incorporated.
How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.

thedubya914 said:
How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.
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Menu/Option/Accounts/Legacy Accounts
GoogleTalk must be online
or RTFM
Welcome to this forum

There is a new one that does them all (AIM, MSN, GTalk, Yahoo, ICQ, and Jabber) that is currently free and Java based. I quit using IM+ (which I paid for) and am using it exclusively. Currently the beta testing is closed while I think they upgrade their servers, but should open up again shortly I think).
It is supposed to be for the crackberries, but works great on my Dash and K-Jam:
http://www.bbhub.com/2007/01/25/jivetalk-im-beta-available-to-try/
http://blackberryforums.pinstack.com/17577-jivetalk_beta_multi_client_im_application.html
-Mc

malatesta said:
Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.
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Thanks for this. Haven't heard of them yet. Ima give it a try now. If it's works great and isn't subsciption based like Agile, I'm down...

anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA

alfredtv said:
anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA
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You mean Octro? It's working great under WM6 - have been testing it.
I'll publish a big roundup of all these apps in the next 1-2 days - stay tuned

hey anyone know of one that will use http proxy?

See http://forum.xda-developers.com:80/showthread.php?t=294938 for a preview of the article (sorry, it has a typo: Ocrp vs Octro. I'll fix this in the final version.)

I've been using Octro 1.09 on my 8525 on t-mobile. I prefer it to Agile. The voice function works but not very well. Excessive delay and feedback requires use of a headset. I can tether to my laptop and use GTalk and the voice is flawless. I'm hoping they work on the voice feature more. Other than issues with voice Octro is excellent.

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RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07

cyberstraz said:
RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07
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Then, surely a new version comes really soon.

so nothing that works via http (8080) proxy?

Tellme for wm6.5

hi,
just saw this software that will be available for wm6.5.
its a voice activating software (sent texts, make calls etc with voice commands)
www.tellme.com
i think its a sub company of microsoft making it.
it says its going to be available through wm marketplace for wm6.5 phones, but cant see why it wont run on other wm OS's.
anyone got a beta of the software? or any other info

Nice site.. Lets wait and see how nice the program would be..

How it is different from MS Voice Command ?

bogdatov said:
How it is different from MS Voice Command ?
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you can search the net for items and places with a voice command (eg. starbucks or ipod etc)
u can also write texts and send them using your voice.
i think it is the evolution if the ms voice command software (microsoft trying to interwine software together and changing the name so that it seems like something fresh and new).

bogdatov said:
How it is different from MS Voice Command ?
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Read the link it does all that and more.

Are MS ever going to release this then?

TellMe was (I believe) a separate company working on this snazzy voice control software, and I believe MS snatched them up to use as a replacement for MSVC going forward.
"Tellme" is certainly a snappier name than "Microsoft Voice Command." It actually looks like Tellme combines MSVC with the voice controls of the Bing app. I wonder how much overlap there will be.

Tell Me is part of the Samsung Intrepid WM 6.5 ROM. Would be great to be able to install that on my phone. Anyone up for the challenge?

hmmm would really like to install this... any1 with an interprid that would let someone here get the app. dont kno how its done but im sure the smart guys here do

shappy0869 said:
Tell Me is part of the Samsung Intrepid WM 6.5 ROM. Would be great to be able to install that on my phone. Anyone up for the challenge?
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Ditto.
Would love to get my hands on that cab.

TellMe
Tellme's primary business is in enterprise IVR systems and Voice enabled CRM and such. The TellMe Mobile apps including the WN6.5 client and the BB client as well at the 555-tell all agregate the voice samples collected during use to make the voice recognition part of their software more acurate and reduce the need for programming.
Seems pretty ingenious and gives Tellme a huge chance to be a great voice app unlike some apps that leave me screaming at my phone like some crazed person. While it again dials some completely random number from my phone book.
I hope that this exclusivity for the intrepid is short lived.

mrudzik said:
Tellme's primary business is in enterprise IVR systems and Voice enabled CRM and such. The TellMe Mobile apps including the WN6.5 client and the BB client as well at the 555-tell all agregate the voice samples collected during use to make the voice recognition part of their software more acurate and reduce the need for programming.
Seems pretty ingenious and gives Tellme a huge chance to be a great voice app unlike some apps that leave me screaming at my phone like some crazed person. While it again dials some completely random number from my phone book.
I hope that this exclusivity for the intrepid is short lived.
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So, do you have a link for the cab or not?

Hamidxa said:
So, do you have a link for the cab or not?
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Dont I wish....so for just reading the site abunch goping for someone with access to the right phone.
on a seperate note all these exlusive deals tick me off. They should just post the app in marketplace and be done with it.

All we need is a ROM dump from the interpid, and we should be able to pull it out and create a cab. However, the phone isn't available yet so we will have to wait a bit longer.

Someone with a Samsung Intrepid needs to port it for us.

yes please

You can get it now, well according to their site, however Im in the uk and thus I dont think i will work for me!....
http://www.tellme.com/you/get

How frickin' insulting!!! Right now, on AT&T, T-Mobile & Verizon it's only available on Blackberry devices! And on Sprint, it's all Blackberry except for one WM device - the Intrepid!
WTF, Microsoft?!

Package here.It doesn't understand a touch screen, but it seems to work.

Hey guys, since I'm such a 1337 H4x0r I managed reverse engineer the installer from PPCGeeks to find out where the installer got the .cab from. Well, it paid off and I found the .cab straight from the site, and you can download it from: http://m.tellme.com/windows_mobile/TellmeSamsungIntrepid3515.cab. It still doesn't work on my Rhodium, but I figured I'd post this anyway, so you don't have to go to download from PPCGeeks or if you wanted a .cab file instead of the installer.

Best Open Market Application for HTC HD2

I have just discovered Open Market and it is quite frankly a bit more reach in free apps.
Look for OpnMarket
I would like people to use this thread to share the best apps for HTC HD2.
Come on have your say.
Mine so far is WIFI Remote Access v1.00
Enables to browse the content of your Windows Phone 6.5 or Windows Mobile 6.0, 6.1 device from your computer's web browser using a WIFI connection without installing anything on your computer!

Hi Ive tried the open market and its ok , too bad that there aint more like open market where you can get more apps .
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oshikawa said:
I have just discovered Open Market and it is quite frankly a bit more reach in free apps.
Look for OpnMarket
I would like people to use this thread to share the best apps for HTC HD2.
Come on have your say.
Mine so far is WIFI Remote Access v1.00
Enables to browse the content of your Windows Phone 6.5 or Windows Mobile 6.0, 6.1 device from your computer's web browser using a WIFI connection without installing anything on your computer!
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People would benefit from searching xda developers a bit more thouroughly (or in some cases, at all!) before looking elsewhere for applications. This community has much more to offer than any other single location on the internet (including Wifi Remote Access v1.7)

johncmolyneux said:
People would benefit from searching xda developers a bit more thouroughly (or in some cases, at all!) before looking elsewhere for applications. This community has much more to offer than any other single location on the internet (including Wifi Remote Access v1.7)
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totally agree with you. whatever i'm looking for i usually end up finding it here anyway.

I'm still anxiously waiting for XDA-Marketplace.....! Already there isa version for Android, I'm wondering how long it will take for a WM version, since originally xda-developers was intended for windows mobile... That's the one I want to have!

Can't seem to get Omarket to function properly on my HD2. It requires a login or registration and attempt to register, but it says my information is incorrect...LOL
At first it would say my email was incorrect, and I tried 3 email address, then it says there's an error in the fields.

MartyLK said:
Can't seem to get Omarket to function properly on my HD2. It requires a login or registration and attempt to register, but it says my information is incorrect...LOL
At first it would say my email was incorrect, and I tried 3 email address, then it says there's an error in the fields.
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Just go to www.freewarepocketpc.net and register there. it worked for me

first I look at openmarket and after here bc I way easier then here to search the forums. OpenMarket is a must have.
PS: a shame that they try to make another one and dont work together. One place with all stuff, that must be the target

[APP]Skype 3.0

I have been searching for ages but unable to find skype for my HTC HD2... well my troubles came to an end last night! some time after midnight.
I am sure this may have been posted here before but i couldnt find it, possibly because i suck at searching, but anywhos, for anybody who cannot find skype for their HTC HD2 or for that matter any WinMo Handset here it is.
Source: CNET
Download It From Here
Extracted from donwloaded exe file
SkypeSP.cab
SkypePPC.cab
i have the PPC version installed on my HTC and the only issue is on the create account screen, and you will need to download a patch that fixes the sound coming out of the wrong speaker
i think this is the correct one i am at work atm and havent had a chance to test it can somebody confirm this is the right patch?
XDA Forums Link
Peace 'n' Love
Teshi

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I can't open the file, nothing happens when I press it

I have Skype 3.0.0.256 , the latest version for Windows Mobile.
This is not extracted from EXE file, this is the CAB from skype site (it was there)
it doesnt need and patch or anything, I use it everyday making calls, chat with no problem.
(I still dont know why they decided not to continue supporting this, works perfect)
here you have it.
SkypeMobile.cab

Rushedby said:
I can't open the file, nothing happens when I press it
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yeah, me too, where should i paste it after i extracted it? on the program files? or the storage card?please help, thanks

radzi said:
...I still dont know why they decided not to continue supporting this, works perfect.
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Just look at this explanation!
https://support.skype.com/en/faq/fa...s;jsessionid=50754197AF990062F0F8967231ECC115
Why can’t I download Skype Lite or Skype for Windows® phones?
Unfortunately, Skype Lite – a version of Skype for your mobile phone – and Skype for Windows phones are no longer available for download from our site.
We’ve chosen to withdraw Skype Lite and Skype for Windows phones because we want to offer our new customers an improved mobile experience – much like the version that has proved so popular on the iPhone, and which is now available on Symbian phones. Our focus is on providing a rich user experience that allows you to enjoy free Skype-to-Skype and low cost calls as easily on the move as you do at your desktop.
We felt that Skype Lite and Skype for Windows phones were not offering the best possible Skype experience.
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What is skype. I've heard about it for these past 2 years but never bother to check it out.
I just went to the official website and the only thing I got from it was People paying for a skype credit to use skype services such as "free calling" and not using mobile minutes.
Can someone tell me what use do you use skype on their HD2 for? It seems like its great but I am not convinced enough to try it out.

I can upload to u a skype cab. but I suggest to use fring, since it allows to speak with earclip. voice experience provided by skype.cab is very bizzarre...the only loadspeaker will work!

I have Skype 3.0 for Windows Mobile which must be executed from your PC and an Active Sync connection and I have it installed on my Rhodium and it works great via Wi-Fi and wherever I have 3G. As just mentioned there is a CAB version available as well. I don't get this decision to make it unavailable to Windows Mobile users given that Verizon Wireless has Windows Mobile devices in their stable and if you get your hands on 3.0 for WM devices why no love for these devices?

drkalo said:
Just look at this explanation!
https://support.skype.com/en/faq/fa...s;jsessionid=50754197AF990062F0F8967231ECC115
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What a shame... they cant develop good interface for winmo and they blame it easily on the OS itself
There is nothing the HD2 cant do what an iPhone does but there are a million things the HD2 can do but the iPhone can not

alexleon said:
I can upload to u a skype cab. but I suggest to use fring, since it allows to speak with earclip. voice experience provided by skype.cab is very bizzarre...the only loadspeaker will work!
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The Second link i quoted in my original post, has an app that you run as well as Skype that reroutes sound to the earpeice, or louspeaker.
Teshi...

msn for android?

ok, might be a stupid question as MSN belongs to windows but i know that iphone users can install MSN, so gonna try my luck.. is there a possibility to install MSN on my sensation? i mean the real MSN we use on our desktops but just for mobile devices
thanks

There is no official Windows Live client for Android. You can try something like IM+ or a variety of other programs. But don't feel bad, not even Windows Phone had a client before the Mango update.

Matt1408 said:
There is no official Windows Live client for Android. You can try something like IM+ or a variety of other programs. But don't feel bad, not even Windows Phone had a client before the Mango update.
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but if i install one of these clients, will i be able to see and communicate with my friends who are on windows live client?

sure, the best one imho is Epinephrine: fast, simple and easy to use. Latest version can also send files!

plocri said:
sure, the best one imho is Epinephrine: fast, simple and easy to use. Latest version can also send files!
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Agree with that, Epinephrine is quite good. IM+ is very nice as well, but files are uploaded to their server with this one... I hate that. I want my files sent directly. Epinephrine can do that, but only pictures and sounds I believe. Not TXT files, APKs, whatever. MSN Messenger: Mercury Free can send all types of files directly, but is otherwise inferior to the two alternatives I mentioned.

Ebuddy.
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I prefer Trillian, they have a desktop client and Android client. They both work really well together and it supports a lot more than just MSN.