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Where to install? Main or storage memory?

Hi Guys,
I have a question..
How can i know what programs i should install to my stoarge memory, and which to install to my main memory? And whats the difference?
Im guessing that i would install important programs direct to main memory right? But because of limited space this can be tough. Heres a list of programs i use. Could someone please advise me which to install to Main memory and which to install to a storage card for max perfromance:
Skype
Netfront 3.3
Opera
Agile Messenger
MemMaid
Resco Explorer
TCPMP
Broken Sword (Game)
XCPU Scalar
Thanks for the help guys!

Which device do you have?
If it's a Windows Mobile 5 device, the performance between internal or memory card is minimal. If it's 2003se or older, then performance from memory will be far higher.
Rule of thumb for me is, what couldn't I do without if the memory card popped out and got lost. I put those apps internally.
Also something to consider (on a WM5 device) is that flash memory can only be written to a finite amout of times, so if you have an app that constantly rewrites data (such as NetFront with the cache) then I would stick that on a memory card. It's cheaper to replace a worn out card in 2 years than the whole device. Although I imagine most people on here replace their device within a year to 18 months anyway.

MicroSD or Internal Memory?

Hello everyone I'm just wondering what is "better?" To install applications to the MicroSD or to the internal memory? I mean, for example, if it's an application that I rarely use, I'm sure everyone will say "MicroSD" but if it's an application that's constantly in use? What is better? Or does it not make a difference? Does it eat up a lot of memory constantly writing to the micro SD? or does it not make a difference in that sense either?
Do most people install to Micro or Internal Memory?

zkyevolved said:
Does it eat up a lot of memory constantly writing to the micro SD?
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Nope. However, older firmwares may consume a lot (about 5-6M, as opposed to better-optimzied ones with only 500k-1M) of additional RAM memory with the card in. I recommend my previous storage- and firmware updaterelated articles; I've answered all your questions in them.

Add the poll question "Equally Both" as I split mine between them. There are Apps I have found the run better on main and the ones that don't matter, I put on Memory card.

mchapman007 said:
Add the poll question "Equally Both" as I split mine between them. There are Apps I have found the run better on main and the ones that don't matter, I put on Memory card.
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Likewise. In fact, there are some applications that tell you during installation that it would be better to install them on the device's main memory.

Sure! How do I change the poll ?

I have read that HTC Diamond isn't having Memory Card Slot...It's really very disappointing.

12ka4 said:
I have read that HTC Diamond isn't having Memory Card Slot...It's really very disappointing.
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... and this is relevant to the thread how?
i like storing most of my apps on memory card as i don't like using system memory not unless a app doesn't work right from sd card.

Like most, I put everything on the memory card unless the developer specifically states that it should be installed in main memory.

If it's a program that runs all the time, such as a today plugin, then it would be prudent to install it on internal memory to avoid problems. Everything else can go on the storage card.

I'm going to disagree with the majority here (as usual...)
I think you should you use as much of the internal memory that is available as possible. Why? First, it is faster to read/write to flash ROM than to MicroSD (flash also). Second, I believe it uses less power. Third, IS THERE AND CAN"T BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE! (just like my 401K). I know in ancient times, when I loved my iPaq 2210, you only had RAM memory for both programs to run and storage of files. Then you could adjust a slider to assign or reserve more space either way. But, AFAIK, in my Hermes, they are two physically different memory locations, so why don't use the storage memory? Of course, there should be some free storage memory always available for temp files and other stuff that changes over time.
Anyway, just my opinion.

dgaud007 said:
Second, I believe it uses less power.
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That's exactly what I'd like to know. Is the power usage to R/W onto the SD disk that much higher? Or is it insignificantly low? Also, I agree, a program that CONSTATLY uses the memory card to read / write would MOST LIKELY use more power than installed on the main memory.

combining memory on touch pro

Hi all, I'm not sure if it is already done, but when I open memory to see how much I spend and how much is still left I see that the phone splits memory for data use and memory for program use. is it possible to combine those to program use only? or does the pro does that automatic when program mem is full? because I bought a microsdhc cart and all my data is doing on that.
thanks in advanced!

You must be new to Windows Mobile. Windows Mobile devices has 2 types of memory, RAM and ROM. Since WM5, RAM is used to maintain running processes. ROM is used as storage (unlike pre WM5, where RAM is splitted between storage and running programs and ROM storage is hidden).
Touch Pro has 288MB RAM (about 200MB usable) and 512MB ROM (about 318MB usable). This is due to the amount of RAM used by OS (while running) and ROM used by OS (in storage).
When you insert your MicroSD card, you'll see a new folder in File Explorer. It's called Storage Card.
So, in simple statement, no, you can't combined the memory as they are different types of memory.

in other words, its like trying to combine your desktop PC RAM memory with DVD disk storage space.

lol okay I very much understand what your saying. I am new at wm idd. but hell no with computers I actually do a study Informatica but just didnt knew how wm was made or never really looked into it. I thought it was just like a harddisk on a pc were you install your programs & data like music. and it uses the RAM memory for running programs I installed on the harddisk. but never mind very much thnx for the explanation!

Using SD CARD as RAM

Hey! Is there any possibility to create virtual memory on my HTC (p3600) like use SD card memory to create virtual memory?

It would be the slowest ram ever seen

so... what's the data transmition top velocity (how many mbps?(in MB please))

Is it really possible?

I think that if we want to, we can lol!
I just want to know how fast is the processing between a SD card and the HTC... like... if we can see movies, listen to music play 3D games at 60 fps (like duke nuken 3d) I think that we can create a Ram Virtual memory just like your mac/pc. Hmn... and if it's slow with a SD card... maybe try to use some internal memory... what do HTC (I'm refering to my HTC p3600) Ram have so special?

Nothing special, seems you are confusing RAM and Flash, they are completely different technologies, RAM is a volatile memory and fast by nature to work with CPU, flash is persistent but slow (compared to RAM) to work as storage; even if you could create a swap file to simulate RAM, if won't work at RAM speed so your device would become slow as hell.
More, RAM space (physical or emulated) is pretty dynamic, it does a lot of read/write all time, so if you emulate it, you'd need a storage device that can bear all that stress like hard disks, but if you use flash, cards would become unusable after a short time so I really doubt there's a program that emulates RAM for PocketPCs.

I'm thinking on xdandroid running from the sd card? can some one run all wm6.x from the sd making the phone have 16 gb of internal memory?

[Q] Difference between ROM memory & Internal Storage HD7

Hi Guys,
Been on the forum for some time now and it's super, with the HD7 coming out i'm a little confused as to what's the difference between rom memory and internal storage is
I mean i know my HD2 had only 512MB of ROM, which was crap to be honest as i kept running low with everything i had on it, will the 8GB/16GB internal memory deal with this problem as the rom on the HD7 is still 512MB just like the HD2.
Also one more thing, i really loved the HTC Sense UI on my HD2 and i know the HD7 has the hub version, what are the chances of getting the Normal HD2 Sense UI back on the HD7 (hacked etc...)
Thanks for all the help and support.
Appreciate it.

The storage is combined. All apps, games, music, etc are placed in one unified storage area. You'll have the full 8GB to use (unlike WM and Android).
No chance that the Sense 2.5 comes to WP7. Sense is heavily hooked into WM and that just won't be possible. Someone could port something that looks/behaves similarly but it would have to be from the ground up.

Thanks alot for clearing that up.
Thanks

I have 36.3 MB ROM memory , 180 MB on Phone memory and 11.1 GB on SD card.
This infos are all according to my Titanium Backup Pro.
Is there a possibility that by installing more games or apps, it will eat up my ROM memory first which is down to 36 MB (any chance i can get some memory back?)?
I'm using apps2sd but i dont think it is helping my ROM even if i transfer some files from internal memory to sd card.
Or am i wrong?

earthworm1102 said:
I have 36.3 MB ROM memory , 180 MB on Phone memory and 11.1 GB on SD card.
This infos are all according to my Titanium Backup Pro.
Is there a possibility that by installing more games or apps, it will eat up my ROM memory first which is down to 36 MB (any chance i can get some memory back?)?
I'm using apps2sd but i dont think it is helping my ROM even if i transfer some files from internal memory to sd card.
Or am i wrong?
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WP7 doesn't distinguish between ROM and SD card. It sees them combined as a single drive, sort of like JBOD or RAID 0.
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Thanks +1 for you... so nothin to worry about.

Sure. That functionality has caused some confusion. It's why the sd card slot isn't a removable storage solution
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