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XDAII and bluetooth gps.

Hi all,
I have just bought a tomtom bluetooth gps system, I can bond to the gps receiver ok, but it just wn't connect. There is deffinately a connection during the bonding process but that is it, it never connects again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Steve

If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously

Puff The Magic Wagon! said:
If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously
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I think the problem is that the xdaII doesn't support a bluetooth serial port profile. I have tried virtually everything and had no luck.
Please keep me posted on how you get on, I really hope we can get this sorted or I will have a gps reciever paper weight.
Steve

Hmm
Due to the nature of yesterday, it wasn't until midnight (GMT) that I could get to have a play with my XDA II & EMTAC BTGPS (& I wasn't sober )
Installed TTN2 and tried to connect - not a sauasage
There "seems" to be something using COM6 and as such TTN2 can't use that as the path to the EMTAC - check box in the GPS options won't check. Turn off BT & you can check the box, but it won't connect as something else obviously can't use it either :? Dunno - I'm not a programmer but I'm going to have to check this out.
I'll speak to a contact @ EMTAC & see if they have been sucessful in bonding to an XDA II (HTC2?) & if so how. Otherwise I'll keep on playing with it & see what I can find out.
Anyone else got any tips or ideas what might be the way of resolving this?

Have you tried turning off the "receive incoming beams" under settings/connections, that may or may not free up the first com port.

I know someone with the same problem. O2 have told him that Tom Tom are working on a new version of software to fix this specific issue and it will be downloadable from the TT site. They couldn't say when.
xdaguru

Beam off did seem to allow me to connect to COM6 but not for my device Might be worth trying Steve because TT Wireless was one I could connect to.
IIRC from iPaq Bluetooth Manager, you had to bring up the device options once bonded and then select a serial connection. Pocket Loox as well. The BT Manager in the XDA II is very basic. So I do wonder if its a TT soluble solution or does it need an upgrade to the BT Manager?
If its a problem soluble by TT then I'm prehaps more hopeful

Sorry to go off topic but I wonder if this is the same PTMW that I know?
How you doin m8?

Hello Danny
Yes it is I
Can't be that many PTMW!'s about
All's well & I'll catch you on the other side one day

Yeah I guessed there could be only one PTMW
I take it you're lucky enough to have an XDA2 already? I always knew u were a gaget fan like myself. I have a month left on my XDA1 contract
Hopefully Tom Tom will have the problem ironed out by then as I have TTN2 aswell.
Pay us a vist on Scoobycity soon. Alots changed and we're alot bigger now

Any bluetooth GPS working with the XDA2 ??
Is there anyone who got the XDA2 working with a bluetooth GPS ? I am very eager to get one (both the XDA2 and a bluetooth GPS) but I would like to hear from some who got a combination working .
Thanks,
Marco

Its being looked into Marco
It may be that the BT Manager may not have various BT options enabled, so it may need a software update/patch from O2.

Spoke to O2 this morning.
They are "aware that not everything works with BT" and are working on a software update.
No timescale offered

I have an Emtac and was going to buy the XDAii to replace my Loox but without this bluetooth connectivity I will save my money. However interestingly it does say on the XDA website...
...or use TomTom Bluetooth with Xda II and cut down the amount of wires in your car
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I'd say this is enough to get a refund if you want one. Page in question is located here...
http://www.my-xda.com/gps.html

TomTom and Bluetooth
The fault with the TomTom software and Bluetooth lies solely in TomTom's software. TomTom have recognised this and are aggresively working to fix the problem.
The TomTom GPS software doesn't know to read the details of the virtual com port. So give them some time to fix the problem....

Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?

Hi
I too have just upgraded to the XDA II from the Ipaq 3970, and I also have an Emtac BTGPS.
Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
It would be very interesting to find out if any one has a TomTom BTGPS and can serial link it to the XDA II
Dom

TomTom and Bluetooth
mother said:
Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?
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The fact you're able to bond with the unit shows that bluetooth is working correctly.
The issue is that the tomtom software can't read com6: (which is where bt is hiding) or do anything with it, because of the way the software works.
This is because the Bluetooth manager on Xda II is from MICROSOFT, whereas on other devices it's manufacturer specific. As far as I know this is the first ever deployment of the MS Bluetooth stack directly.

Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
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Then why do they say they support TomTom on their website? Seems like a few people at O2 dont really know what's going on?

I've not known that O2 has ever supported EMTAC BTGPS 'cos the XDA (1) didn't have bluetooth support :?
Surely it is the BT manager that is at fault? Not allowing the a serial connection from the manager to the Emtac?
TomTom is looking to read Com6 (when told to) but the info its getting is not sufficient or mapable.
I've run BTGPS with a TDK B/tooth card and it needs to be told (as do other managers) to make a serial connection to the BT device.
Test for someone (I'll try & do it too)
Find an alternate mapping software that *should* accept a BTGPS device & try to connect...

TomTom works normal again with SE rom !

The issue with tt3 crashing my MDA II when started without an active bluetooth connection has finally been solved with the upgrade to WM2003SE ! I still can't choose bluetooth GPS though but NMEA bluetooth on com 5 works fine.

pleun said:
I still can't choose bluetooth GPS though but NMEA bluetooth on com 5 works fine.
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I've no problem selecting the Bluetooth GPS with W2003 SE installed (2.02).
Currently using GPS driver V3.00 not upgraded to newer versions yet.
Regards,
Mark

This is great news. Been waiting/searching for this for months now!
Do you two both use the 2.02 SE, or is it also proven with the 2.06 SE?
What brand is the BT GPS you're using?
Did you test with / without creating a serial port in order to try to choose 'Bluetooth GPS' in TT GPS?
To help ppl that do not want to upgrade, could you possibly post the registry setings of Bluetooth here?

edsub said:
Do you two both use the 2.02 SE,
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I'm using 2.02 SE
or is it also proven with the 2.06 SE?
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Haven't tried it yet, may be someone else can answer this.
What brand is the BT GPS you're using?
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Mine is Emtact Trine II BTGPS
Did you test with / without creating a serial port in order to try to choose 'Bluetooth GPS' in TT GPS?
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Have tried both and both do work for me.
To help ppl that do not want to upgrade, could you possibly post the registry setings of Bluetooth here?
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Which key do you want me to export?
By the way have also tried it with TT3 GPS driver 3.03 and this does work too.
But the issue BTGPS together with a headset is partly still there. As it sometimes works and sometimes not. haven't found a way to make it work all the time.
Regards,
mark

I use ver 2.06 SE and a Holux Gr 230. Only tried it with serial port profile.
TomTom is 3.07

Wohaa!! Since youre using the Holux GR-230 means my DConnex DC-230 will probably also work with 2.06 and not have the TomTom lockup when theres no BT connection available!!!
This made my day!
Have to think fast to put together an T-Mobile ExtROM for 2.06SE now . . .

BT without spp don't work.

BT GPS not working...HELP!!!

Hi, i just bought a Bluetooth GPS receiver (called BT-R500). I am wanted to use it with my Qtek 2020 (ROM 1.66.04ITA if this can be useful to somebody for helping me out...)!
I can't let them "communicate"...why? Anybody knows what i should do for the setting (which COM port should i use? it says com5 but can't find any satellite...)!!!
Is there somebody that had this kinda proble and solved it? Could you be so kind to let me know? thanks

When you bond the gps it should ask if you wish to use it as serial device. What software are you using and what are the settings you have applied? Have you tried a free 3rd party testing program to see if you are getting connection/signal?

I am using "Mapsonic", that requires a GPS that supports the NMEA signals 2.0. My GPS bluetooth receiver meets NMEA 2.2 requirements. This might be a problem in your opinion? I have not tried to use it with a 3rd party, just because i don't know anyone that has a GPS on his palm.

bt
www.bluetooth.jazztel.es

Hustladave said:
Hi, i just bought a Bluetooth GPS receiver (called BT-R500). I am wanted to use it with my Qtek 2020 (ROM 1.66.04ITA if this can be useful to somebody for helping me out...)!
I can't let them "communicate"...why? Anybody knows what i should do for the setting (which COM port should i use? it says com5 but can't find any satellite...)!!!
Is there somebody that had this kinda proble and solved it? Could you be so kind to let me know? thanks
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can you actually paired in the first place? or just unable to detect the satelites?

Hustladave
Maybe you should check the baude rate of the GPS device. I am using SysOn and had the same problem. You may also need to check if you are using the old rom or the new WMSE. For the old one, you should install bluetooth tools.
Alternatively, you can try GPS Tuner as it has an auto search function for the devices to communicate. :wink:

i have the same problem with holux 231 BT
i have the 1.72 wwe it work fine in com 5 the navigon reconize him but i have a motorola car kit he can't work with the MSbtooth i must install Bt tools to pair it but in the same time i loose the connection for the GPS
hi change from com5 to com7 i have a tools named gpsviewer delivred with the holux hi fond the GPS but the navigon no
i change the rom to the we 2.20 CHS but i discover that the GPS can't be found i install windcom stack ver1.49 and it work like a charm with the GPS but the are no profile for the car kit
the are ini suggestion to make the 2 device working in the same time
Sacaman

AKU2 for Tornado - Any more news ?

Does anyone now anymore info on when this will be available and can they clarify if it will also allow bluetooth stereo ? I have seen contradicting reports about lack of CPU power to run stereo bluetooth.
I'm really waiting for push email but the bluetooth stereo would be a nice feature
Qtek 8310
Imate Rom 1.0.8.0
1.5.333.0
4.0.13.17_01.04.00
overclocked to 240mhz

I am one who don't believe that a 200MHz CPU is fast enough to support A2DP.
I'd rather buy a BT stereo headset with a A2DP adapter which can be plugged into Tornado's standard earphone jack.
just my point of view...

I have just updated to the Imate test rom and up to now everything is working great push email works perfectly. The GPRS traffic is not huge (about 140k for the last 8 hours) and although its a test rom there does seem to be any flaws as of yet, one good feature it the automatic WiFi switch off notification which turns off the WiFi if you are not connected to any access point for a period of time.
Tom Tom5 is working without a glitch and the overclock works as well. All in All it's looking as though the official release will be excelent if the test rom is anything to go by.
As for the Bluetooth headset with an ADP2 adapter, I can see your point but I would prefer if your not having to carry loads of gizmos around. Just your phone and your headphones - life would be great. :lol:
Qteck 8310
Imate Rom 2.0.6.0
Operator 2.5.331.1
Radio 4.0.13.25_01.14.00
RIL 2.002
OS 5.1.195 (build 14847.2.0.0)

What did you overclock your device to? What tool dide you use?
Which push email service are you using? Or are running exchange at home?

nplatts said:
Qteck 8310
Imate Rom 2.0.6.0
Operator 2.5.331.1
Radio 4.0.13.25_01.14.00
RIL 2.002
OS 5.1.195 (build 14847.2.0.0)
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nplatts,
Where did u find the 2.0.6.0 version??? I still have the 1.0.4.0 !! And out of curiosity, what are the differences?
Is there native support for cell info, edge etc which are not working on the current version?
Thanks
Costas

Costas, I'm not sure about the cell info or edge, i have been waiting for the Push email support which seams full implimented in this rom, there is a nice new comms manager which allows you to turn off radio and gprs. the phone works without any problems so far.
I will post a link to download the file I found as soon as i can find it again.
It is a test rom so i dont know if there are any implications or problems updating to different versions, all i know is it works on my Qtek 8310 which is fully inlocked and superCID.

UniqueTouch
I used OMAPClock to overclock to 252mhz, i havent tried any but at that speed the difference is noticble. omapclock.exe is available on this site if you search.
We use an Exchange 2003 server for our push service, previosly we were using sms notifications to impliment the push email (known as microsoft always up to date) and a third party to provide email to sms service this worked very well but was not a full push solution. as soon as i updated the phone and restablised the activesync we started receiving messages over the air straight away.(ater enabling direct push on exchange manager)
Blackberry is dead !!

SP5 Test Rom here
http://rapidshare.de/files/14565845/to_cdl_eur_2060_253311_0114_hertz_test.exe

I'd like to know if there's also noticeable battery cost afte overclocking?

devilxelloss said:
I'd like to know if there's also noticeable battery cost afte overclocking?
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Not that i can tell.

Tomtom 7.916(9192) on htc touch2 OK

Tomtom is OK
h--p://hotfile.com/dl/23631092/b70abad/TTN7.916.9192_QVGA_Black__no_BT_.cab.html
h--p://hotfile.com/dl/23630398/c811a37/TTN7.916.9192_QVGA_Blue__no_BT_.cab.html

Hi, have you any problems with the bluetooth after the installation of tomtom?
Could you try, please?
Thanks
Davide

the tomtom work fine with htc touch2

You shouldn't post warez links on here or you'll get barred!
If you like tomtom, have a search for Sygic Mobile Maps 10 - it's like a newer version of TomTom, maintains its simplicity whilst adding a few extra features and being a lot smoother, unlike Igo8 which is just too complicated...

sorry for noob question

Why do you need bluetooth to use GPS program? You just need to insall the program you want and launch it.

htcshane19 said:
Obviously bluetooth will determine loacation but i wondered if wifi has to be active at same time or at any time.
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HAXHXAHXAHHXAXAHHAXAXHXAHAXHHAXHXAHXAHXAAXHAX Bluetooth determining location damn guys come on haahahahaha GPS is the one positioning u .... bluetooth has nothing to do with it ... it's just that previous versions had a bug which crashes the BT and it wasnt working on the device , this release is done properly and everythin is fine hxahhxaxa BT <==> GPS hxahxahxah

HAXHXAHXAHHXAXAHHAXAXHXAHAXHHAXHXAHXAHXAAXHAX = haha ?? ?

Help....
palmtracker said:
Tomtom is OK
h--p://hotfile.com/dl/23631092/b70abad/TTN7.916.9192_QVGA_Black__no_BT_.cab.html
h--p://hotfile.com/dl/23630398/c811a37/TTN7.916.9192_QVGA_Blue__no_BT_.cab.html
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hi, i've downloaded these files but i dono how to install them. there's no .exe
i see setup.xml and more files with extension archive001,002,etc.
I've got this HTC TOUCH PRO2 special edition (T3320) from INDIA about a month back.(if i'm not wrong ,it's called HTC mega in europe ?)
Device information:
ROM: 1.32.1300.2 (72483)
ROM date: 12/16/09
Radio Ver: 3.50.25.15
At present i've installed Sygic. It detects the inbuilt GPS on com4 with baud rate of 4800. Everything works fine except: It doesn't catch any satellites. i kept it on for more than 45mins but no signal. Is there anyting i can do ?... i've downloaded this tom tom to try it out.
Please help me either to get the sygic working or installing this Tom TOm.
thanks in advance n
regards.

csanil said:
hi, i've downloaded these files but i dono how to install them. there's no .exe
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Looks like this is only a theme / skin for QVGA devices. TomTom is not freeware, so you need to buy it.
From what I read so far:
MEGA is the code name for this device, it should be oficcially called "HTC TOUCH2", not "HTC TOUCH PRO2". The latter sounds like a completely different device.
The normal edition should be T3333, T3320 is a low cost india edition without 3g, and without GPS. So I guess without a bluetooth connected GPS mouse you will not get GPS. Maybe through the GSM + Google location services you can get a rough location on google maps, but nowhere near accurate as necessary for navigation (needs GPS).
Sorry

LtBlue said:
HAXHXAHXAHHXAXAHHAXAXHXAHAXHHAXHXAHXAHXAAXHAX Bluetooth determining location damn guys come on haahahahaha GPS is the one positioning u .... bluetooth has nothing to do with it ... it's just that previous versions had a bug which crashes the BT and it wasnt working on the device , this release is done properly and everythin is fine hxahhxaxa BT <==> GPS hxahxahxah
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I guess he was thinking about a bluetooth GPS mouse, not about the integrated GPS in the T3333 / Touch2 / MEGA.
Actually also Wifi and GSM can somehow be used to get a location, but not really accurate at all. Not comparable with GPS anyway, and not enough for navigation.

Actually also Wifi and GSM can somehow be used to get a location, but not really accurate at all. Not comparable with GPS anyway, and not enough for navigation.
That is called A-GPS or assisted GPS. Can be useful in places with bad GPS signal as extra help.

thanks guys for the info...

By the way, anyone know which version of map is compatible with the TOMTOM 7.916? I found it was not able to recognize my map which worked fine in previous version of TOMTOM.
Thanks!

thankssss...

johnshembb said:
By the way, anyone know which version of map is compatible with the TOMTOM 7.916? I found it was not able to recognize my map which worked fine in previous version of TOMTOM.
Thanks!
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Is your map activated? Or do you have an old map? There are many maps which work with 7.916.......all have different codes for windows mobile use.....
As example I use Europe 845.2647

If tomtom gives the bttrayce error look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567492

Hi, when I installed TomTom on my Touch2 and restarted my device there was an error with bluetooth.
Tom Tom works great but I don't have bluetooth anymore, so I can't connect to my carkit.
I removeed TomTom and my bluetooth worked 100%.
somebody has a solution for this???
KdW

csanil said:
hi, i've downloaded these files but i dono how to install them. there's no .exe
i see setup.xml and more files with extension archive001,002,etc.
I've got this HTC TOUCH PRO2 special edition (T3320) from INDIA about a month back.(if i'm not wrong ,it's called HTC mega in europe ?)
Device information:
ROM: 1.32.1300.2 (72483)
ROM date: 12/16/09
Radio Ver: 3.50.25.15
At present i've installed Sygic. It detects the inbuilt GPS on com4 with baud rate of 4800. Everything works fine except: It doesn't catch any satellites. i kept it on for more than 45mins but no signal. Is there anyting i can do ?... i've downloaded this tom tom to try it out.
Please help me either to get the sygic working or installing this Tom TOm.
thanks in advance n
regards.
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yellowfever said:
Looks like this is only a theme / skin for QVGA devices. TomTom is not freeware, so you need to buy it.
From what I read so far:
MEGA is the code name for this device, it should be oficcially called "HTC TOUCH2", not "HTC TOUCH PRO2". The latter sounds like a completely different device.
The normal edition should be T3333, T3320 is a low cost india edition without 3g, and without GPS. So I guess without a bluetooth connected GPS mouse you will not get GPS. Maybe through the GSM + Google location services you can get a rough location on google maps, but nowhere near accurate as necessary for navigation (needs GPS).
Sorry
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Yellowfever is right: your device T3320 does not have a gps (built-in) receiver, so you can't use tomtom nor sygic mobile without an external gps receiver(connected via bluetooth)!

kdw1963 said:
Hi, when I installed TomTom on my Touch2 and restarted my device there was an error with bluetooth.
Tom Tom works great but I don't have bluetooth anymore, so I can't connect to my carkit.
I removeed TomTom and my bluetooth worked 100%.
somebody has a solution for this???
KdW
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See reply 17 above your message for bluetooth fix. Also you should have correct version of 7.916......
If you need sens me a PM with your private mail adres.