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As this device is now available in multiple parts of the world, I believe that it deserves a section on the forums as many of the other HTC devices do. At first with the understanding that sections are only created for devices released throughout the world, the Juno has been announced for Dopod as the c750. I and many others believe it is time for the device to shine. Please give us a section.
If you believe in this movement for a new section, please acknowledge below. And hopefully in time we will all be able to rejoice in the new comming.
I've pm one of the forums admins and he told me that we will have a section soon....
Well thats good to hear. Lets hope its soon.
I agree that we need a section for the juno/shadow/c750. We need a place where more people can collaborate on shadow-specific topics
i''m with you guys on this one too
in as well
Me too! I cant wait!
I'm ALL for it. It would be great to get back to xda forums since not a not goes on at Modaco. No rip there.. but you guys know what I'm talking about. All the real action is here!!
Just got mine, and I'm all for this.
I'm in also.
Me too....
I'd like to see one as well.
Please. Pretty Please.
Excellent idea! I'd read it!
i would also like to see an iris/s640 thread/forum..
and a 6.1 rom for it. pretty please.
I would love a shadow section
same here!
pretty please!
We've even started to cook roms and there is not section yet!!!
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We've even started to cook roms and there is not section yet!!!
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Exactly... We need to move forward with this device. Having the Juno spread throughout the Smartphone general forum is time consuming and not very professional. Please mods, I beg of you. Take 5 minutes and please open us up a forum. As the device is rolled out more throughout the world, you will see more of a rush of readers looking to XDA-DEVELOPERS.com for information and modifications to make their Juno/Shadow/c750 their own.
Please, we beg of you... Oh Gods of the Smartphone Underworld...
Hey guys,
Could one of the moderators add a forum for the new HTC Max 4G? I know it's a lot of forums to add, but I think this device looks really promising
thanks
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Hey guys,
Could one of the moderators add a forum for the new HTC Max 4G? I know it's a lot of forums to add, but I think this device looks really promising
thanks
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i second that. i hope it will work on the att network!
I am assuming that because of this models limited release, it won't be getting a dedicated forum.
Could someone please confirm or deny that Blackstone mods and software are compatible with the Max? If so, then the lack of it's own forum won't be as missed considering the ample community surrounding the HD.
Thank you.
Guys
In About XDA-Devs there is a thread called petitions form users to mods
I think this asking should go there, so you´ll have more chances to get their atention
Just a suggestion.
Looks like a great device, but in order to have a forum, you have to actually have people contributing to it. In all the HTC forums that I read regularly , I have only read one post from someone in Russia, who actually has one.
Any others?
Cool device...I've only seen 2 prior threads on it in the HD section & Networking section.
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Guys
In About XDA-Devs there is a thread called petitions form users to mods
I think this asking should go there, so you´ll have more chances to get their atention
Just a suggestion.
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The first two posts are rather old, the individuals probably weren't aware the device was only being released in Russia. I doubt there are any people actually expecting the Quartz to get a forum of its own at this point.
I simply didn't want to start a new thread for my question, so bumped this one instead. I see where I should have been more clear. Denco7 and Galaxys are correct in their observations that there will likely be little activity directed toward this handset directly. I was just hoping to get some clarification on whether Quartz owners can play with contributions for the HD or not.
In retrospect, starting a new thread in the Blackstone forums would have been more effective.
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I was just hoping to get some clarification on whether Quartz owners can play with contributions for the HD or not.
In retrospect, starting a new thread in the Blackstone forums would have been more effective.
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Here's the original max4g thread that may have some info or you can ask questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461922&highlight=max4g
Two facts.
1. HardSPL available (by cmonex).
2. First cooked ROMs have been tested by 4pda users.
Hope these would be enough for hosting new forum for Quartz users as their activity will definitely boost.
first of all mods can't make new forums only admin can do that
2ed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263
this is the forum specific made for such requests
Oh if with gonna have a review this gonan be nice, its a great device.
I was wondering if the community could trow together a list, possibly on this post of just Manila 2D roms. I'm a noob and would really like one, I just am having trouble finding all I can get my hands on
majority of them have it.....pdaultimate has it
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I was wondering if the community could trow together a list, possibly on this post of just Manila 2D roms. I'm a noob and would really like one, I just am having trouble finding all I can get my hands on
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This thread is redundant. Please take time to read the forum rules and read the first few pages of the forum. Almost every rom has m2d in it!
This is just plain laziness on your part--the mods should close the thread.
Like I had sais I am a noob, maybe I'm just not sure exactly what it is I'm looking for, and manila 2d is just in it everytime. Looking for a minimal rom with the touchflo feature for 6.1 and able to use a custom skin. This still may be a broad description of what I want, but like I said, I'm a noob. I wouldn't have asked if I didn't think I needed to
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Like I had sais I am a noob, maybe I'm just not sure exactly what it is I'm looking for, and manila 2d is just in it everytime. Looking for a minimal rom with the touchflo feature for 6.1 and able to use a custom skin. This still may be a broad description of what I want, but like I said, I'm a noob. I wouldn't have asked if I didn't think I needed to
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You don't give yourself enough credit. Being a newbie doesn't mean you have to be lazy, you have the capacity to search and make rational decisions.
search for a Light / Lite rom (both spellings) if you do NOT want M2D, and any of the many ROMs for M2D. Though M2D isn't really considered very "Minimal"
Hello and welcome!
It's advisable when joining a new forum to lurk and read around, especially to get the general 'feel' on the forum society. Each is unique.
You might want to start here (I just joined recently too): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397434
And don't forget the home page of xda-developers.com. From there you can understand that although layman is welcome to post and get help, this site originates from 'hackers and tweakers' of the XDA for discussing the device and the development. Thus the name XDA Developers. You can read more here: http://www.xda-developers.com/ and quoting moderator: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3119575&postcount=10
So, it's best to learn by reading a LOT and then only ask questions, if it's not yet asked before ..
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Hello and welcome!
It's advisable when joining a new forum to lurk and read around, especially to get the general 'feel' on the forum society. Each is unique.
You might want to start here (I just joined recently too): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397434
And don't forget the home page of xda-developers.com. From there you can understand that although layman is welcome to post and get help, this site originates from 'hackers and tweakers' of the XDA for discussing the device and the development. Thus the name XDA Developers. You can read more here: http://www.xda-developers.com/ and quoting moderator: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3119575&postcount=10
So, it's best to learn by reading a LOT and then only ask questions, if it's not yet asked before ..
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There's nothing left for me to say but...
Closed.
Dave
Why are themes mixed with applications? It's a mess...
Why can't there be one section for themes and other for applications?
I won't say it a mess but Yes, that would be better...
Agreed. There is too much stuff going on with HD2 now, and the biggest problem is the new things fall back and many of the users even don't see the new posts.
I agree.
I´ve been here since Kaiser forum was the "hottest" thing on XDA, but even that is nothing in comparison of the "hottness" of Leo's forum.
Sometimes good things almost get lost with all those topics popping out during the day.
So far, i thank RSS, but separated Apps and Themes fora would be nice.
+1 too Apps & Themes should be separated for easier view or search.
I think thats a great idea
People will still ignore the forum titles and start threads where they want to.
Take this one, for example. It should not be in the themes and apps forum of the HD2 as it has diddly-squat to do with either the HD2, themes or apps.
There is a forum for this type of conversation.
Like I said - people will post where they want. You'll just get used to it.
Saying that, you could then have a forum just for tweaks...
The idea is good.... But Johncmolineux is right, it will change nothing....
Xda is like Ali Baba's cave... It's a big mess, but a mess I finally like. At the end I always find what I'm looking for.
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People will still ignore the forum titles and start threads where they want to.
Take this one, for example. It should not be in the themes and apps forum of the HD2 as it has diddly-squat to do with either the HD2, themes or apps.
There is a forum for this type of conversation.
Like I said - people will post where they want. You'll just get used to it.
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I've tried to find a place to post this and did not succeed. And if this is about this section, it's not that wrong to be here. But I've posted here not because I simple want but because I did not find a suggestions section. An Apps and a Thread sections inside the HD2 section of XDA will be very easy to find.
By that way of thinking we should not have 4 HD2 sections, we should only have one... since people make mistakes in where to post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263
That's ridiculously easy to find. You just look.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263
That's ridiculously easy to find. You just look.
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Yeah, I've seen that. But wasn't sure if it was for suggestions about the forum. And then, if I post there probably most of the users of the HD2 sections will not see it.
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Yeah, I've seen that. But wasn't sure if it was for suggestions about the forum. And then, if I post there probably most of the users of the HD2 sections will not see it.
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Surely you're making a suggestion about the site, not the HD2, which is why you should post it in a forum that is for the site. That's all.
There's actually a thread in that forum for suggestions for the mods. That's the best place to ask a question that relates to the site.
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Surely you're making a suggestion about the site, not the HD2, which is why you should post it in a forum that is for the site. That's all.
There's actually a thread in that forum for suggestions for the mods. That's the best place to ask a question that relates to the site.
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Can anyone move this to there then?
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People will still ignore the forum titles and start threads where they want to.
Take this one, for example. It should not be in the themes and apps forum of the HD2 as it has diddly-squat to do with either the HD2, themes or apps.
There is a forum for this type of conversation.
Like I said - people will post where they want. You'll just get used to it.
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I disagree, John.
Of course you're correct in as much as SOME people (particularly people new to the site) will always start threads where they want to. But I would say that MOST people (particularly experienced posters) stick to the rules regarding posting new threads in the correct section and those who don't quickly have the errors of their ways pointed out to them!
I also disagree that this particular thread is 'out on place' in the Themes and Apps section. The OP wanted to gauge feeling amongst current users of this section as to his suggestion of splitting the section into two. Who's going to see it if it's hidden away somewhere else on the forum?
Just my thoughts... No criticism of others' opinion meant...
Btw... I would also be in favour of a split.
I would like to see this happen too, but im sure it would be hassell for anybody that needs to get it uptodate/tidy!
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I would like to see this happen too, but im sure it would be hassell for anybody that needs to get it uptodate/tidy!
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Yes it would need some hard work... But we could keep this actual sections as the themes section for example, and then the users would report the threads that needed to be moved, that way the moderators won't need to be checking all threads...
What about having actual MODERATORS on this forum??? Cause all those topics that are made dubble and dubble each and every single day are driving everybody crazy I know that for sure!! I scroll down through one page on the forum in 1 minut cause of all the same things I am reading over and over again!
Why isn't the policy here actually being applied??? Why aren't the moderators HARSHER?? (if there are moderators cause I only have seen one here on the Leo's forums).....
I am sure 90% of the people here think like me, especialy when there ar epeople who only register to this forum to make a topic and ask a question and don't bother to search and when they got their answer never bother to look on tthis forum again.......
Really, the policy should be looked after and there should be at leaste 5 times more moderators than there are now!!!
We are missing the important threads through all the b*ll**** and sorry to say this but some people don't have time to spend hours a day on this forum! We have to work/study, I am sure many agree with me!
Hello everyone, I'm writing this because lately there has been a lot of turmoil in this section. People are leaving, upset with xda, posting off topic like crazy and showing hostility like I've never seen here before. I really wanna help make this section better as this is my main device and hate seeing it like this. I try and do what I can, delete off topic/flaming posts, move threads to the proper sections and so on but would love some input from the users here to make this section better for everyone. Granted I'm not the only mod here but this will benefit all of us so here's what I'm asking. If you see something you think we can improve on post it here. If a user is rude, flaming and going off topic pm me or another mod here or report it. I will do my best to address anything posted here. Granted I can't do anything about xda rules as they are in place for a reason but I can always bring up suggestions to the other mods and the admins. I really wanna work with everyone here so please suggest away. Off topic posts, flaming, rude comments will not be tolerated in this thread.
Thanks,
Ryan
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Hello everyone, I'm writing this because lately there has been a lot of turmoil in this section. People are leaving, upset with xda, posting off topic like crazy and showing hostility like I've never seen here before. I really wanna help make this section better as this is my main device and hate seeing it like this. I try and do what I can, delete off topic/flaming posts, move threads to the proper sections and so on but would love some input from the users here to make this section better for everyone. Granted I'm not the only mod here but this will benefit all of us so here's what I'm asking. If you see something you think we can improve on post it here. If a user is rude, flaming and going off topic pm me or another mod here or report it. I will do my best to address anything posted here. Granted I can't do anything about xda rules as they are in place for a reason but I can always bring up suggestions to the other mods and the admins. I really wanna work with everyone here so please suggest away. Off topic posts, flaming, rude comments will not be tolerated in this thread.
Thanks,
Ryan
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I commend you. I could imagine your task at hand is like trying to clean up the streets of St Louis by yourself. It has become anarchy here, just people running their mouth with no consequence. You deleted one of my posts because it became off topic, I was actually happy, because it was deserved.
My only suggestion is consequence. I know it's hard to really "punish" someone over the internet, but any kind of action should be taken to breaking the rules.
Thanks for taking your time just to read post over post, just to see if people are following rules.
Thanks for taking the time to respond! Believe me there will be consequences if people break forum rules and I'm making a personal commitment to be extremely active here and do everything I can to make it better for everyone.
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Thanks for taking the time to respond! Believe me there will be consequences if people break forum rules and I'm making a personal commitment to be extremely active here and do everything I can to make it better for everyone.
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You're welcome. See you around
I think one of the problems that has gotten worse lately is the way new members are treated. Please see here from today:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1166265
I understand about searching, etc, and repetitive threads, but there is a right way and a wrong way to handle things and too many members here have started acting unacceptably to new members imo. It sets a tone and then the new members act the same way and the problem snowballs on itself and we end up with a forum of everyone being rude to one another.
anyway just my opinion and thanks for your efforts in cleaning things up
One of the biggest problems I have seen around Tbolt forums, is the fact that developers bust their asses for us and MANY people act as if it's a Dev's privilege for us to be using their Roms and what ever else. People should be thankful we get all these nice Roms and themes and what ever else for FREE. The other big problem I see is people not searching I've asked quite a few questions but MANY more have been answered just by using the search feature.
I know we have stickys but I think a big Noob sticky would help cut out some of the mess/easily answered questions.
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I think one of the problems that has gotten worse lately is the way new members are treated. Please see here from today:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1166265
I understand about searching, etc, and repetitive threads, but there is a right way and a wrong way to handle things and too many members here have started acting unacceptably to new members imo. It sets a tone and then the new members act the same way and the problem snowballs on itself and we end up with a forum of everyone being rude to one another.
anyway just my opinion and thanks for your efforts in cleaning things up
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VERY unacceptable, thanks for pointing out thread it has been cleaned and closed. We were all newbies at one point and those replies are the exact thing I'm trying to rid xda of. Thanks for the help!
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One of the biggest problems I have seen around Tbolt forums, is the fact that developers bust their asses for us and MANY people act as if it's a Dev's privilege for us to be using their Roms and what ever else. People should be thankful we get all these nice Roms and themes and what ever else for FREE. The other big problem I see is people not searching I've asked quite a few questions but MANY more have been answered just by using the search feature.
I know we have stickys but I think a big Noob sticky would help cut out some of the mess/easily answered questions.
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Sadly that's the way it has always been, there are always those users who are on here to simply tear people down and complain. Maybe its boredom but its something that has always bothered me as well. Not sure there's much anyone can do about it however, unless they are flaming and posting rude comments that's when the mods can do their thing. If enough complaints are reported about certain users then action is also justified so don't be afraid to let us know.
I'm gonna improve the sticky I put up in the dev section to include more info for noobs and see if that helps.
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VERY unacceptable, thanks for pointing out thread it has been cleaned and closed. We were all newbies at one point and those replies are the exact thing I'm trying to rid xda of. Thanks for the help!
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No problem man, and I'm not trying to rat people out either. I just wanted to show an example of what has been going on. A lot of members here(even me included at times I'm sure) have been acting like this is our forum instead of us all acting like guests here and treating others as guests as well.
It's so hard to clean things up and police them, what one person feels should be asked in a thread for a specific ROM another person feels should be in the "general" or Q&A section.
If I'm having a "general" (ie battery, GPS, etc.) issue after I flash a ROM I'm going to look to that ROM's thread for answers - I find that if I post something in the 'general' forum about a specific ROM I get all kinds of answers from folks running different ROMs or that are not rooted and, while I appreciate the help, I don't think that somebody is as able to help unless they are on that particular s/ware. Isn't battery life and/or GPS a development issue if a lot of people are having that problem? Spin off to a new thread, reduce clutter, and post a link to the thread in the OP. (then you can at least chastise somebody if the info is in the first post which should ALWAYS be read in its entirety).
I think it would be nice if a developer would put in the OP a couple links to specific threads that have been started that are talking about specific issues w/a specific ROM. Right now the CM7 development thread has spawned a couple different troubleshooting threads, but there is no link in the OP to those.
On one of my previous ROMs the OP had all kinds of links to help threads and FAQ, etc.
I also think that the old "if you can't say something nice...." saying should be rule #1 - it would save a LOT of issues when somebody chimes in and says "how do I.....?" and somebody else responds with "why don't you try reading/searching, etc." - why can't they just take the same amount of energy they used typing that snide comment and instead point in a helpful direction?
I understand the frustration, I too get tired of the same Q's being asked over and over again but I've also failed at the "search" on the site and had to have people guide me, especially when it's something I'm new to, like Netflix, etc.
Now I'm just rambling......
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I know we have stickys but I think a big Noob sticky would help cut out some of the mess/easily answered questions.
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I really doubt it will.
I can see what everyone is saying. I've been involved with Android phones since day one and have been active on several boards for many years now.
I was with T-Mobile for over 15 years and am a Pillar on their boards, so I've spent alot of time there.
I've used XDA for some time now with the G1, G2, Cliq, MyTouch, etc.
When I got the Thunderbolt, I came to this forum and I noticed a very different "air" about this forum as others had pointed out. I found it kinda odd since the phone was so new.
One thing that I did notice was that "moderation" (and I know everyone is busy around here) is not as, for lack of a better word..."swift" around here. On most other boards I am on (and also ran), rules violations were not tolerated and handled very quickly with "Time outs" being given out to minor offenders and outright bans given to major offenders.
That being said, as other have said, unless there is a consequence for an action, the behavior will continue.
Not sure what can be done to help monitor this board better, since I do not know how all of it is handled internally, but I think if there was more of a moderator presence (as in jumping into a thread and posting about staying on topic or watching language, etc). Maybe the "bad boys" will just get tired of not being able to "terroize" anyone anymore and just leave.
Just my two cents.
2 issue's that see on this board (and others) -
1. Anyone that ask a question already posted is immediately called a N00b and slammed on.
2. Just cause someone has low post count they are called N00b (yep happens to me on this one)
It seems that there is no patience by many user's on answering questions (if you don't have kids wait till you do, you will be answering them many times over) why get so flustered cause people ask questions, whether or not they have been answered. Not everyone is a N00b because of low post count (I know I'm not and can hold my own anytime) I also don't act like I know everything either. Some people can't let things go either.. if you don't like it why respond? just ignore it. A little common courtesy goes a long way folks. Also folks asking for things to be fixed ASAP on newly released Roms and refuse to use them until they are or they ***** and complain over and over about the issue. Just a question, do you act like this at home or deal with things like this at home with programs you use? All software has issue's if you think they don't or your the perfect programmer, you don't belong doing this. Even major software and telecom companies have bugs that happen that are not always caught on release. Its normal and if you can do better and want everything perfect, then start programming!
I'm actually planning on creating an introductory FAQ/howto for new users. I've written documentation for new users to Linux in the past and many of the questions parallel. I'm more than happy to help in any way I can
sent from my rooted Thunderbolt with das BAMF 3.0 rc4
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I'm actually planning on creating an introductory FAQ/howto for new users. I've written documentation for new users to Linux in the past and many of the questions parallel. I'm more than happy to help in any way I can
sent from my rooted Thunderbolt with das BAMF 3.0 rc4
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Feel free to add to it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168433
i commend you for this ryan but it's gonna take more than just you to make xda a better place to be. the issue is instead of people just answering questions, they always say "search" .....what a waste.
the other issue is this site seems to be run by the members and not the devs, nobodies hardly on here anymore it seems. it also takes forever for a mod to show up when you report something. now don't get me wrong i love xda for the freedom i have to an extent, i also do not want a police state like android central is. there has got to be a medium somehow.
i wish we could of talked about this earlier, i hate the fact soo many devs have left the tbolt section.
I'm glad to see an effort is being made, it's going to take work from everyone.
Perhaps we could have a subforum for unrooted users? There's a lot of questions where one assumes the person is rooted (because they don't bother to say) or users that aren't rooted are looking at the wrong topics to figure out what is wrong. There's also a lot of flaming between those that root and haven't rooted on the Thunderbolt forums it seems.
For example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169292
As a rooted user, this post would just be a waste of space and pretty offtopic. For an unrooted user, you're going to get the obligatory "ORLY???" type posts from rooted users because to those that rooted, this is old news (either because they already got the update ages ago or they changed their boot animation to something custom).
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Perhaps we could have a subforum for unrooted users? There's a lot of questions where one assumes the person is rooted (because they don't bother to say) or users that aren't rooted are looking at the wrong topics to figure out what is wrong. There's also a lot of flaming between those that root and haven't rooted on the Thunderbolt forums it seems.
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i dunno if id support that move, the forums can be cluttered enough as it is. if your not rooted at all i have no idea why some of you are on here? this place is for custom rom, mods and themes for rooted users mostly. no offense of course but most users come here too root.
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i dunno if id support that move, the forums can be cluttered enough as it is. if your not rooted at all i have no idea why some of you are on here? this place is for custom rom, mods and themes for rooted users mostly. no offense of course but most users come here too root.
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I'd say probably 20% that come here don't root. I have no idea why either when they could go to more general forums for android out there that aren't so development/rooting focused. I really don't have much empathy for them when they complain about things being broke/not having fancy new features, but eh, each to their own. They would be better off complaining to the source (verizon) than complaining on here cluttering up the forum, since most of their issues cannot be fixed without doing what the refuse to do.
With that being said, a seperate forum would let them figure stuff out without getting in the way of those that did root.