(stupid) question about backup and upgrading rom - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

heya,
i never tried yet but .... it would work if i first backup my phone with spritebackup (or anything else), then upgrade rom, then restore the backup ?
that's to avoid reinstalling all of my stuff (contacts,tomtom,etc..) every time .....
theoretically, it shouldnt work .... but anyone tried ?
thanks!

valerino said:
heya,
i never tried yet but .... it would work if i first backup my phone with spritebackup (or anything else), then upgrade rom, then restore the backup ?
that's to avoid reinstalling all of my stuff (contacts,tomtom,etc..) every time .....
theoretically, it shouldnt work .... but anyone tried ?
thanks!
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When you use SpriteBackup, it backs up your registry and many other core files also. New ROM upgrade could include fixes or newer drivers that may get overwritten when you restore your backup. So, for stability reasons, it's not recommended.

Best thing you can do is get PIM Backup and it will backup most of your messages/contacts and other stuff. There isnt a very good way to avoid having to reinstall applications though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705

You can do it...
If you use sprite, you can safely restore if you use upgrade mode in the advanced options. It will restore your contacts, programs, etc. but will not overwrite any system or rom registry settings.

valerino said:
heya,
i never tried yet but .... it would work if i first backup my phone with spritebackup (or anything else), then upgrade rom, then restore the backup ?
that's to avoid reinstalling all of my stuff (contacts,tomtom,etc..) every time .....
theoretically, it shouldnt work .... but anyone tried ?
thanks!
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i use PIM backup and store on my SD card. then flash. then copy back to phone and then restore

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Restore Programs after ROM Upgrade

Hi all, I was wondering if anyone is familiar with a tool for backup of the installed programs before update and restore them on the new ROM? I tried with Sprite Backup, but than I had to hard reset because the device hang after Splash screen. Such a tool would save a lot of time. Greetings!
No No No No No No
The reason you should NOT restore after a flash is that any backup program (Sprite, SPB included) must by its nature backup things like registry and datbase files.
If you restore then you will overwrite the information that the very clever cookers have spent all of their time fixing to make the ROM stable.
Equally backing up PIM data (contacts, calendar, tasks etc) using this type of program and then restoring can cause problems. If you can - sync with PC first and resync after the update. Then you are guarenteed compatibiliy.
If you must backup on the PPC then use programs like SMSBackup and ContactsBackup. These export and import the data rather than taking a copy.
I know it is a pain and takes a long while but I strongly recommend reinstalling after an update.
If anybody knows of a tool that can automate the installation of a number of CABs please please let me know.
chavdar said:
Hi all, I was wondering if anyone is familiar with a tool for backup of the installed programs before update and restore them on the new ROM? I tried with Sprite Backup, but than I had to hard reset because the device hang after Splash screen. Such a tool would save a lot of time. Greetings!
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No service after restore of info using Spb Backup??

Im using the Xplore ROM and have reinstalled all of the apps i used in Faria's WM6 the real thing. But now after I restore all of my info using Spb backup, I cannot get any service with T-Mobile (I live in Florida, if that helps). Is there some file in the backup that could have messed up my service?
b.mann said:
Im using the Xplore ROM and have reinstalled all of the apps i used in Faria's WM6 the real thing. But now after I restore all of my info using Spb backup, I cannot get any service with T-Mobile (I live in Florida, if that helps). Is there some file in the backup that could have messed up my service?
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App Backup doesn't work from one rom to another. May not work well even on same rom.
umm, so should i just leave it how it is and half-way start from scratch, cuz all i really need is my emails, and i can get those back easy, or can I use another backup tool?
b.mann said:
umm, so should i just leave it how it is and half-way start from scratch, cuz all i really need is my emails, and i can get those back easy, or can I use another backup tool?
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In don't encourage any other backup than PIM Backup...only for stuff like contacts..appointments,tasks and messages
You're not about to reflash the rom every day. Take your time and install the programs you need.
Thanks
I'll just try PIM backup
and where exactly is it hidden in Faria's WM6 the real thing ROM? I could never find it on there...
ohh and i do end up flashing it at least more than twice every other day
b.mann said:
umm, so should i just leave it how it is and half-way start from scratch, cuz all i really need is my emails, and i can get those back easy, or can I use another backup tool?
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Start from scratch!
Anichillus is right, you can't go from Rom to Rom. SPB backup is good for restoring the same Rom.
Going from Rom to Rom is like trying to restore a Win98 pc with an XP backup disc. Sprite backup is supposed to work for what you want to do but I haven't seen or heard anyone confirm this.
ok i will, it just means another few hours up late instead of working on all of the work I should be doing
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else, so...
With new version of spb backup it will recommend rom restore mode on detection of changed rom... if this causes no service, you can try a normal full restore and see if there are no problems with your phone.
No Service after Spb Backup restore
b.mann said:
Im using the Xplore ROM and have reinstalled all of the apps i used in Faria's WM6 the real thing. But now after I restore all of my info using Spb backup, I cannot get any service with T-Mobile (I live in Florida, if that helps). Is there some file in the backup that could have messed up my service?
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Using H3r7 beta 1 after a back-up restore no service (same rom after hard reset) i checked if drivers are loaded and they are, also no change in connection type. i think that the registry restore has a bug, will compare before and after registry and come back whit an answer.
Haven't fount the cause but after doing a custom restore now it works.
What you need to do is restore using the "Rom Upgrade Mod"
select "Customize Restore" next,next, click options, Check "Force Rom Upgrade Mode", done,next, Chose "Rom Upgrade Mode" from the drop-down menu, check "Overwrite existing files check-box, next, next and you're done.

How to make a full backup to restore

Ok, I just got my replacement Tilt and now I have to send it back because it has hardware issues. I was wanting to just save everything I have on there so that I don't have to set everything back up again when I get my new one. (I'm not using the default ROM)
Should I follow the Kaiser ROM Kitchen Tutorial or is there a quicker way to make a backup so that I can re-install it all. I couldn't find anything else, but I didn't think it would hurt to ask.
Thanks
i'm going to go ahead and not insult you, noob. Had you done a google search for "ppc backup" you might have found software such as sprite backup. I personally use it and i like it. I think it was included in some ROM or other.
brynwall said:
Ok, I just got my replacement Tilt and now I have to send it back because it has hardware issues. I was wanting to just save everything I have on there so that I don't have to set everything back up again when I get my new one. (I'm not using the default ROM)
Should I follow the Kaiser ROM Kitchen Tutorial or is there a quicker way to make a backup so that I can re-install it all. I couldn't find anything else, but I didn't think it would hurt to ask.
Thanks
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Just make sure you install the same ROM as your current Tilt on the new device. Use Sprite Backup as the previous poster suggested and do a backup to SD Card and then restore. Create an .exe of the backup so you don't have to install Sprite backup to restore.
I use Sprite Backup and it works well for me. Saves a lot of time and effort. Just remember to use the same ROM.
Thanks guys, one last question - does this also save the programs I've installed (IE HTC Home Customizer, w/ all of the downloaded info?)
Yes it does.
ecltech said:
Just make sure you install the same ROM as your current Tilt on the new device. Use Sprite Backup as the previous poster suggested and do a backup to SD Card and then restore. Create an .exe of the backup so you don't have to install Sprite backup to restore.
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Actually, I restored a WM6 backup in WM6.1 (upgrading because of the drivers) Sprite backup has a warning, etc. I just restored everything, except the Windows folder and I was fine. Sort of. Some things were broken, so I've been spending some time reinstalling cabs.

[Q] Should i hard reset first?

When i want to run a backup file, i just run it. But i was wondering.....is it better to do a hard reset first and then run the backup file?
Regardz.
robson10 said:
When i want to run a backup file, i just run it. But i was wondering.....is it better to do a hard reset first and then run the backup file?
Regardz.
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I can´t find any reason why man should backup a device just AFTER a hard reset. After a HR there aren´t any individual file to be backuped. So the only way to make sense would be to backup your personal data in order to hardreset your device and restore it afterwards.
Sorry...misunderstanding, i mean, i have a backupfile wich i want to restore, till now i always just run the backup restore without hardreset first. My question: is it better to hardreset first and then run the backup restore file?
they way i look at it is it doesn't matter.
run the backup. if things are weird, then hard reset and run it again. if things are goo, well you are done.

back up when switching between roms.

hi there guys,
I have some questions about how to make a total back-up of your rom, so you don't have to setup your apps and stuff like that, when you wanna try something new. Setting everything up when I wanna go back,is holding me back.
hope this is not a total repost, if it is just show me the old thread, cause I couldn't find it.
Errr... A classical Nandroid (whole Rom with Kernel, Apps and Settings) and/or Titanium Backup (Apps and Settings - possible to transfer data between different roms) should offer everything you need
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when I bake a backup with clockwork, I still need to set everything up, and install my apps again. What am I doing wrong?
Safidk said:
when I bake a backup with clockwork, I still need to set everything up, and install my apps again. What am I doing wrong?
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I always backup and restore from recovery menu of clockwork, this means when restoring everything is put back as it was.
Not sure why this isn't working for you
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I downloaded (and paid for) the newest version of clockwork manager from the marked. How do you do it, just from the app or do you boot in recovery? When you say full recovery does that include everything, so you don't have to setup anything?
Yes mate, boot into recovery, select "backup and restore", then backup - this will save a full copy of your system as it stands. When you backup from the recovery menu it will put everything back exactly as it was when you backed it up - ie all apps & data already setup
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and before I recover I need to do a complete wipe, right. System, catch and factory?
No.. you dont need to wipe before restrore.
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ok, tnen I'm gonna try again. Don't see why its not working for me. There's not a secieal setup I need to do? I haven't done anything else than installing the app ;-)
Confusion?
I believe that there is a couple of differing questions are being asked and answered here.
A Nandroind backup or full device backup (excluding RADIO) will enable you to restore your device back to the exact state that it was in when taken. All the phone partitions SYSTEM/DATA/BOOT/CACHE/etc are all backed up. Therefore restoring one of these backups will ensure that the ROM, kernel and data will be restored together and the phone will be operational.
A Titanium Backup backs up applications and setup data that enables you to easily restore your installed applications and configuration. After a factory reset or a re-install of the same ROM.
It can often be problematic to use a titanium backup after changing the version of the ROM you used or when moving from one ROM to a completely different one. In fact quite often ROM cooks recommend that you don't use a Titanium backup restore in the setup of their ROM.
That being said I still take both types of backups on my device. As titanium backups are useful for restoring individual applications to a previous state if they encounter a problem or corruption.
I believe that the Nandroid backup is the most useful recovery tool we have available to us and always take one, before flashing any new ROM or ZIP file, better to be safe than sorry.
Although I'd also recommend that all personal data ie calendar & contacts should be backed up by sync'ing to the cloud and never just kept locally on the device.

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