GPRS to EDGE? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development

hey
i have a really strange net thingy going on
two things
1- sometimes i get a E on my kjam and the internet works so great and my connection shows EDGE instead of GPRS and i like it so much but when im home it doesnt do it how can i configure it be just EDGE never only GPRS?????
2- when im on net on my phone or on pc thru my wizard i cant get incoming calls wats da deal with that help plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
thanx

1. No, EDGE connection is possible because of the equipments of your phone provider, but it may not possible for all towers to have EDGE support, so you may get EDGE only on specific locations.
2. Because GPRS data connection shares the same connection with voice connection, so if you are transferring GPRS data, incoming calls are not received (However it is still possible to receive phone calls if GPRS is connected but not active).

hmmm thats sad
so is there like a specific rom that can boost the gprs speed?
and how can i know which towers are which?
thanx

It just depends where you are. When I'm at home (poor reception) its usually gprs, but when I'm at uni its edge.

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Anyway to disable the phone but keep the GPRS connection

My work have give me a Ipaq 6340 for a mobile data project. as I am the geek with all the PDA/phones :shock:
The Ipaq is used only for the transfer of data and the access of the work servers, using a constant GPRS connection. but the phone app keeps really getting in the way poping up when is shouldnt. Is there anyway to disable the phone app but keep the GPRS connected,

			
				
Disable GSM if you can, and disable GPRS data-based calls. GSM is the standard carrying band for phone conversations, but in cases of dire need, GPRS can shoulder the load if the GSM networks are full, but hardly ever does because the GPRS systems are usually more likely to be full. It's the reverse out here, I get network is busy all the time when i try to make a call, but when i hop on the net or check my mail on my k750i, it works perfectly fine. I'm almost tempted to find some way to make data-only calls, besides dialups of course.

How can I tell if I'm really on EDGE or not.

Ok I have a Cing 8125 with the TNT.1933 rom. IPL and SPL are both 2.26 GSM is 02.19.11.
Often but not always when the unit boots up it displays not an E but a G icon. Performance appears to be the same. I have to turn off the phone in CM and re enable it for the phone to properly work and display the EDGE E. I know that the E is just a registry hack. So am I connected to EDGE or not. How do I tell and how do I force it to connect to edge on boot up.
Thanks,
nline.
the easiest way of finding out if you are on edge or not is the download speed whilst on the net. If you are downloading a file on standard gsm (g) then you can achieve a maximum speed of say 160kbs if you are on edge you can have double that.
As for getting the phone to automatically select edge, it wont, and it cant be done with a hack either, as, if there is no decent edge signal, for it to grab, it cant use it. Same as if you had no mobile signal to make a call , you couldn't hack the registry to make it find one.
do wizards have edge capabilities then?
scousemartin said:
the easiest way of finding out if you are on edge or not is the download speed whilst on the net. If you are downloading a file on standard gsm (g) then you can achieve a maximum speed of say 160kb if you are on edge you can have double that.
As for getting the phone to automatically select edge, it wont, and it cant be done with a hack either, as, if there is no decent edge signal, for it to grab, it cant use it. Same as if you had no mobile signal to make a call , you couldn't hack the registry to make it find one.
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Ok so why isn't the phone finding an edge signal on boot up? After it boots up I can turn off and turn back on the phone and it finds the edge signal everytime. I can understand poor signal but I don't think it is the issue here. Better radio rom?
Yes, absolutely (with registry hack on official ROM, or use any unofficial ROM).
Wizard only display "E" logo when the network and stations support it. If you are using a network that doesn't support EDGE GPRS connection, the logo still shows "G" regardless the registry setting.
Maximum speed for non-EDGE GPRS connection is 80kbps (i.e. 10kb/s), so if you are getting speed of more than 10kb/s, then you are definitely connected to EDGE-enabled GPRS network.
However sometimes bad networks (such as the mobile operator I am now using, the New Word Mobility) still get speed of <10kb/s when connected to EDGE-enabled GPRS network, so it is mainly up to operator.

Wifi and GSM quick questions....

Hello,
I have had my PDA Universal now for a week. I have changed it to GSM so it doesnt go onto GPRS, and give me a huge bill. I only want to connect via Wi-fi and only when the Wifi is available so that is not a problem.
What I would like to know is, when I connect via Wi-fi, either in my house, work or Uni, there is no cost by the GSM Service Provider, which is O2 in this case.
Another question is I have changed the setting to dial a 0845 (national rate) number in England for a internet connection when I am desparate, but will I get charged the Mobile network rate for an 0845 number or will this be treated as a data transfer and at a different rate?
Many thanks... I know these may seem obvious to some, bu not to me, as I am very new to PDA's..
Jimmy.

Dumb Question - 3G / Edge

This is going to be a really dumb question, but its something I am trying to find out. When my cell phone is connected to either a 3G or an Edge network, am I incurring any data charges? even when the phone is just simply sitting on the desk? If I make a call while on a 3G or Edge network, again does that incur any data charges?
I realize that if I go onto the internet using either 3G/Edge that I will incur data charges, but trying to find out if I will when making phone calls / doing nothing on the phone but having the little 3G / Edge icon showing at the top.
Thanks, told ya it was a dumb question!!
Nope...
Only if the phone connects will you be charged for data. The indicators simply state you have Edge or 3G (or some phones show H for HSDPA) data service availble. Think of it like your signal meter for data. One thing to be careful of is what applications on your device can access the internet. Comon ones are weather (HTC Home plug), e-mail or internet.
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Only if the phone connects will you be charged for data. The indicators simply state you have Edge or 3G (or some phones show H for HSDPA) data service availble. Think of it like your signal meter for data. One thing to be careful of is what applications on your device can access the internet. Comon ones are weather (HTC Home plug), e-mail or internet.
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Thanks, I installed NoData and disabled both connections there. So hopefully that means nothing will be able to connect (unless I want it to). My phone has WiFi so I don't want to be racking up charges on data services when I don't need to.
I think I am just nervous as have heard so many times about people racking up huge bills without even knowing they were doing so.

GPRS without phone service

I'm new to the Windows Mobile platform using GSM and I'm trying to understand the operation of GPRS connection. I have a PPC, HTC TyTn, and I use it to connect to the internet. Most of the time I get a good signal with the antenna and four or five bars next to it. I also get the E or G icon for the GPRS connection. Sometimes when I move into an area I get the antenna symbol with an "!" next to it and the "G" symbol. From my understanding the "!" means no service but I can still connect to the internet. My questions is, due you need phone voice service to get a GPRS connection.
Thanks
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yes voice is the lowest common denominator
both gprs, edge, 3g, h use the same signals
and voice is the base
Thanks for your reply but I'm still confused. I understand gprs and voice use the same signal but my phone indicates "no service". I can't dial out or receive calls but I can connect to the gprs network and get on the internet. My understanding is "no service" means voice service or the phone could not register on the network. If this is true how can I get gprs service or connectivity .
2 reasons as i see it
1. i'm wrong
2 you are roaming on a network which for some reason only roam data

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