SAP - Bluetooth SIM Access Profile? - HTC Tornado

Anyone have SAP working on the tornado?

I've found this package in a PPC discussion and it seems to run smoothly on my Tornado, but I do not have a SAP device to test. Could you test it? (Install, enable and reboot)

NiTroGenious said:
I've found this package in a PPC discussion and it seems to run smoothly on my Tornado, but I do not have a SAP device to test. Could you test it? (Install, enable and reboot)
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I installed but what does it do??
Sorry! too lazy to search for info.... probably you can brief me on this.
Thanks

SIM Access Profile (SAP)
SAP allows devices such as car phones with built in GSM transceivers to connect to a SIM card in a Bluetooth enabled phone. Therefore the car phone itself does not require a separate SIM card. (Bluetooth Glossary)

NiTroGenious said:
SIM Access Profile (SAP)
SAP allows devices such as car phones with built in GSM transceivers to connect to a SIM card in a Bluetooth enabled phone. Therefore the car phone itself does not require a separate SIM card. (Bluetooth Glossary)
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Thanks Buddy. Am very grateful to your quick answer.
Take care

Chicken and egg...
NiTroGenious said:
I've found this package in a PPC discussion and it seems to run smoothly on my Tornado, but I do not have a SAP device to test. Could you test it? (Install, enable and reboot)
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Unfortunately my car manufacturer is not as effecient as you NiTroGenious. I will be looking to test this on a friend's car which may take some time. If it works I will buy the parts to enable SAP on my car.
Thank you for your work on this.

Could you please try to test it in the next 2 weeks, so that I know the results before releasing my new ROM?
Thank you!

How can I tell if it is using SAP?
NiTroGenious said:
Could you please try to test it in the next 2 weeks, so that I know the results before releasing my new ROM?
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How can I tell if it is using SAP? It works in my friend's SAP compatible car but maybe it just is using the handsfree profile. I assume that the handsfree profile will lookup phonebook entries and display the number called.
If the phone displays the connection to the car as having the SAP profile than it definately didn't work as the only profile shown was the handsfree.

I'm sorry, but I have no idea. Perhaps you should try a known SAP-enabled phone and compare with Tornado.

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XDAII and bluetooth gps.

Hi all,
I have just bought a tomtom bluetooth gps system, I can bond to the gps receiver ok, but it just wn't connect. There is deffinately a connection during the bonding process but that is it, it never connects again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Steve
If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously
Puff The Magic Wagon! said:
If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously
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I think the problem is that the xdaII doesn't support a bluetooth serial port profile. I have tried virtually everything and had no luck.
Please keep me posted on how you get on, I really hope we can get this sorted or I will have a gps reciever paper weight.
Steve
Hmm
Due to the nature of yesterday, it wasn't until midnight (GMT) that I could get to have a play with my XDA II & EMTAC BTGPS (& I wasn't sober )
Installed TTN2 and tried to connect - not a sauasage
There "seems" to be something using COM6 and as such TTN2 can't use that as the path to the EMTAC - check box in the GPS options won't check. Turn off BT & you can check the box, but it won't connect as something else obviously can't use it either :? Dunno - I'm not a programmer but I'm going to have to check this out.
I'll speak to a contact @ EMTAC & see if they have been sucessful in bonding to an XDA II (HTC2?) & if so how. Otherwise I'll keep on playing with it & see what I can find out.
Anyone else got any tips or ideas what might be the way of resolving this?
Have you tried turning off the "receive incoming beams" under settings/connections, that may or may not free up the first com port.
I know someone with the same problem. O2 have told him that Tom Tom are working on a new version of software to fix this specific issue and it will be downloadable from the TT site. They couldn't say when.
xdaguru
Beam off did seem to allow me to connect to COM6 but not for my device Might be worth trying Steve because TT Wireless was one I could connect to.
IIRC from iPaq Bluetooth Manager, you had to bring up the device options once bonded and then select a serial connection. Pocket Loox as well. The BT Manager in the XDA II is very basic. So I do wonder if its a TT soluble solution or does it need an upgrade to the BT Manager?
If its a problem soluble by TT then I'm prehaps more hopeful
Sorry to go off topic but I wonder if this is the same PTMW that I know?
How you doin m8?
Hello Danny
Yes it is I
Can't be that many PTMW!'s about
All's well & I'll catch you on the other side one day
Yeah I guessed there could be only one PTMW
I take it you're lucky enough to have an XDA2 already? I always knew u were a gaget fan like myself. I have a month left on my XDA1 contract
Hopefully Tom Tom will have the problem ironed out by then as I have TTN2 aswell.
Pay us a vist on Scoobycity soon. Alots changed and we're alot bigger now
Any bluetooth GPS working with the XDA2 ??
Is there anyone who got the XDA2 working with a bluetooth GPS ? I am very eager to get one (both the XDA2 and a bluetooth GPS) but I would like to hear from some who got a combination working .
Thanks,
Marco
Its being looked into Marco
It may be that the BT Manager may not have various BT options enabled, so it may need a software update/patch from O2.
Spoke to O2 this morning.
They are "aware that not everything works with BT" and are working on a software update.
No timescale offered
I have an Emtac and was going to buy the XDAii to replace my Loox but without this bluetooth connectivity I will save my money. However interestingly it does say on the XDA website...
...or use TomTom Bluetooth with Xda II and cut down the amount of wires in your car
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I'd say this is enough to get a refund if you want one. Page in question is located here...
http://www.my-xda.com/gps.html
TomTom and Bluetooth
The fault with the TomTom software and Bluetooth lies solely in TomTom's software. TomTom have recognised this and are aggresively working to fix the problem.
The TomTom GPS software doesn't know to read the details of the virtual com port. So give them some time to fix the problem....
Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?
Hi
I too have just upgraded to the XDA II from the Ipaq 3970, and I also have an Emtac BTGPS.
Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
It would be very interesting to find out if any one has a TomTom BTGPS and can serial link it to the XDA II
Dom
TomTom and Bluetooth
mother said:
Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?
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The fact you're able to bond with the unit shows that bluetooth is working correctly.
The issue is that the tomtom software can't read com6: (which is where bt is hiding) or do anything with it, because of the way the software works.
This is because the Bluetooth manager on Xda II is from MICROSOFT, whereas on other devices it's manufacturer specific. As far as I know this is the first ever deployment of the MS Bluetooth stack directly.
Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
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Then why do they say they support TomTom on their website? Seems like a few people at O2 dont really know what's going on?
I've not known that O2 has ever supported EMTAC BTGPS 'cos the XDA (1) didn't have bluetooth support :?
Surely it is the BT manager that is at fault? Not allowing the a serial connection from the manager to the Emtac?
TomTom is looking to read Com6 (when told to) but the info its getting is not sufficient or mapable.
I've run BTGPS with a TDK B/tooth card and it needs to be told (as do other managers) to make a serial connection to the BT device.
Test for someone (I'll try & do it too)
Find an alternate mapping software that *should* accept a BTGPS device & try to connect...

Bluetooth A2DP

Hi there,
I don't know where to ask this, so it went to "General".
I've got a JasJar running WM6 and it happily runs stereo music on my Motorola HT820 bluetooth headset. I also have Sony BT2500 car stereo system which supports bluetooth phone as well as A2DP. with my HT820, I just turn the headset on and jasjar sees the headset and connects to it, but with the BT2500 only the phone part is automatically connected. if I want to listen to music I have to (on my jasjar) go to settings/connections/bluetooth and tap and hold on my xplod (my sony BT2500) and set it as wireless stereo.
is there any way to avoid this step (as I'm usually driving when i have to do this)? if not, is there an easy way to do it with one hand and no tap and hold ?
Cheers,
Shafa
Hey Shafa,
I've got the same problem with my Prophet and a Pioneer BTB200. So far i found no solution, so i most likely will have to write a program to connect to a BTdevice as wireless stereo, if it autoconnects as a handsfree device and is a2dp capable.
hey Lemmz,
I'm very interested to know what API you have to call to do this...
Cheers,
Shafa
HTC Faraday
Hello all,
Are there any resources here for the Cingular 2125 , I would like to port linux on the 2125. sorry if i have mis-posted.
thanks,
rvb
@shafa:
there is a Bt_api.h in the wm5 SDK which defines a function called RequestBluetoothNotifications; so far i found
RequestBluetoothNotifications
Handling Events from the Bluetooth Stack
Retrieving AVDTP Connection State
My idea would be to monitor all bluetooth connection events (most likely via a service), see which device (auto)connects and if it is a handsfree-device and supports wireless-stereo, initiate pairing for the latter.
i will try to do some coding later today. i'll keep you informed.
Cheers,
lemmz
Ok, so far i can recieve bt-related events. unfortunately i've found no info on how to initiate an a2dp connection microsoft-style. There's tons of code for AudioGateway stuff, but imho thats pretty useless.
Looking at the registry i found in HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\0000110B-(...) reference to "Wireless Stereo" and bthutil.dll. looking at the WM6 SDK, bthutil.h, there are just two functions, BthGetMode and BthSetMode, for turning BT on and off.
I'm also looking at the sources for the (settings->connections->bluetooth)-Dialog, btenum.cxx and btmgmtui.cpp, maybe there is some info on this.
Edit:
btw, this 0000110B thing is referred to as AudioSinkServiceClass_UUID. But no luck on that either.
Soo, i think i'm quite close now...
DRVM_MAPPER_PREFERRED_SET -- with waveOutMessage you can switch soundoutput to different devices, unfortunately for a2dp it returns NOTSUPPORTED.
But within the a2dp driver i found some messages:
WODM_BT_SCO_AUDIO_CONTROL, WODM_OPEN_CLOSE_A2DP, WODM_PARAM_OPEN_A2DP
they seem to initiate a connection and set the preferred output device, just like the DRVM_MAPPER_PREFERRED_SET should. Tonight i'll experiment with it.
SUCCESS!!
It worked just as i though: a single command does all the work.
waveOutMessage((HWAVEOUT)devId, WODM_OPEN_CLOSE_A2DP, WODM_PARAM_OPEN_A2DP, NULL)
The device to connect to has to be paired and, of course, in range. I'm now going to clean up the code and build a litte configuration-tool.
Freeware tool
EDIT: Version 1.0.rc-2 uploaded . Find the download link below:
http://teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware
I've just uploaded version 1.0.rc-1 of the A2DP plugin. It can be downloaded and used as freeware (0 cost) from http://teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware , or find it below attached to this message, including a short usage guide.
New in this release (as many users requested):
-signal indicator
-3 modes for headset: OK, Off, Err
-settings panel added
-Handle Bluetooth option
-Execute File after start option
-applet added in start->settings->system to start settings
-a2dp.exe included in the package, that with parameters: a2dp.exe -bluetoothn|off -a2dpn|off or a2dp.exe -bluetooth:1|0 -a2dp:1|0
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Actually devices that support A2DP (most wm6.0 bluetooth devices), come with 2 audio drivers installed:
1) The "Audio Output" Driver (supported since ppc 2002)
2) The "Bluetooth Advanced Audio Output" Driver, that is responsible of sending audio data over a L2CAP Bluetooth connection, as per A2DP protocol
When the user connects a Stereo A2DP headset, and selects the "Wireless Stereo" profile, the Bluetooth Adv. Audio Output becomes the nr. 1 audio output route, and is indexed as the First audio driver. Any application will output sound by using that driver.
The problem is that sometimes we are already listening to audio in the device's speaker's, and then suddenly we want to switch the output to our a2dp headsets - this is sometimes problematic, as the First audio driver changes from "Audio Output" to "Bluetooth Adv. Audio Output" and the applications currently playing audio need to be restarted.
For such issues, I have provided a tool, as freeware, that will install as a today plugin and provide the user with the possibility of instantly switching the audio between Device Speaker and A2DP Stereo Headset.
It is designed for WM6.0, Microsoft Bluetooth stack, please download it and let me know how it works for you. There are some more modifications that will be done, so this is only Beta-1
The CAB installer and instructions are in the ZIP attached.
(tested on ultimate 8150/wm6.0 and eten m600+/wm5.0, the gfx was made for vga but works on qvga too)
Hello Radhoo,
first times thank you, after such a thing I searched for a long time in vain.
tool functions on the Artemis with WM6 perfectly.
If the Tool were still developed further, I would be pleased genuinly, and would like to call hereby gladly my desires:
1. Bluetooth automatically switch on and off
2. Komandozeilensteuerung
3. Traybuttons without Todayplugin
4. Automatic start of a desired program after activation of A2DP (Mortplayer)
thanks Menkul
Hello menkul, Thanks for the feedback.
What is Komandozeilensteuerung?
Sorry Komandozeilensteuerung ist german.
I mean a Funktion a2pd.exe blueon A2DPon
a2dp.exe blueoff
or so.
Also a exe with startparameter
Menkul
Great idea
Any way to indicate bluetooth 1.2 or 2.0 status/line speed, signal strength, bandwidth?
bjrmd said:
Great idea
Any way to indicate bluetooth 1.2 or 2.0 status/line speed, signal strength, bandwidth?
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Will try to
I have two spare days for research (wow!) so I'll try to come up with something.
lemmz
lemmz said:
SUCCESS!!
It worked just as i though: a single command does all the work.
waveOutMessage((HWAVEOUT)devId, WODM_OPEN_CLOSE_A2DP, WODM_PARAM_OPEN_A2DP, NULL)
The device to connect to has to be paired and, of course, in range. I'm now going to clean up the code and build a litte configuration-tool.
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I am sorry I've "invaded" this thread, without first saying thanks to lemmz for his work, as I very well understand the effort needed to perform this kind of research.
While I wasn't aware of his findings (which are available in AK :
bt_ddi.h, WM520\PUBLIC\COMMON\OAK\INC\ ) I just wanted to give another free tool to the community, so I posted this in a few threads where users where requesting A2DP tools. I hope this is ok.
Dear Lemmz,
thanks a lot, i will take a look asap.
thanks again
Shafa
Hey Lemmz,
where do you get the devId from?
I'm thinking about writing the application, but I'm not a C++ guy (anymore atleast) I need to write it in C#...
Cheers,
Shafa
me again. should i use WAVE_MAPPER for device ID? if so, what is the value for it or even better, where can i find the whatever.h that has the value? is there an SDK i should download?
Cheers,
Shafa
menkul said:
Sorry Komandozeilensteuerung ist german.
I mean a Funktion a2pd.exe blueon A2DPon
a2dp.exe blueoff
or so.
Also a exe with startparameter
Menkul
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Done, original post updated, download 1.0.rc-1
Signal indicator also added: it shows the bluetooth connection strength!
shafa said:
me again. should i use WAVE_MAPPER for device ID? if so, what is the value for it or even better, where can i find the whatever.h that has the value? is there an SDK i should download?
Cheers,
Shafa
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You should use waveOutGetNumDevs() to get the number of wave devices.
Then you can use their index directly: 0 , 1 , eg.:
int idWAVE_BTAudio = 0; // or 1
waveOutMessage((HWAVEOUT)idWAVE_BTAudio ...
Where:
Code:
0. Audio Output
1. Bluetooth Advanced Audio Output
Be careful, the index changes when one device is selected, so you should check the WAVE devices each time you want to switch the audio.
Personally I've used waveOutGetNumDevs() then waveOutGetDevCaps to see what kind of device is each of the enumerated ones.
Hope this helps.

bypass headset earphone jack switch

Hi,
Before I start creating an application that would bypass the headset earphone jack switch(the one the activates once you insert a headset), I would like to know or find out first, if it is programatically possilble to bypass this manually by a registry setting or an application. If yes, kindly advice as to where I should start.
I found similar application while searching for solution to
fix sound problem while using VOIP on Titan/Mogul
and other HTC devices. It was writen for ETEN but
to my disapoitment doesnt work on the Titan
http://www.eten-users.eu/lofiversion/index.php/t8854.html
lifeisfun said:
I found similar application while searching for solution to
fix sound problem while using VOIP on Titan/Mogul
and other HTC devices. It was writen for ETEN but
to my disapoitment doesnt work on the Titan
http://www.eten-users.eu/lofiversion/index.php/t8854.html
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tnx, this application works w/ my device but i don't see the capability toggle the headset profile.
up up up...
up up up...
any takers or brave soul out there?
Hi,
As I understand it the HTC models that do have an FM Radio build in can switch the FM Radio output the the main speaker even while the headset is plugged in. It needs to be pluggen in; it's theis antenne. So my guess is that it must be possible. I myself would be very interested in such a program.
Good luck, hope you'll sucseed,
Cheers,
Cactus
le_cactus said:
Hi,
As I understand it the HTC models that do have an FM Radio build in can switch the FM Radio output the the main speaker even while the headset is plugged in. It needs to be pluggen in; it's theis antenne. So my guess is that it must be possible. I myself would be very interested in such a program.
Good luck, hope you'll sucseed,
Cheers,
Cactus
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yup
anybody out there who could point me in the right direction? where should i start...?
still no luck on this - pls help, even just to point us in the right direction
i've search desperately but no luck i know it is possible; first because the built fm radio application can stream through both speaker and earphone. second, i run into a bluetooth app that can divert/stream audio(not only calls). this leads me to conclude, that is it possible. i just don't have infos i need to create one. i've read many msdn articles, tutorials but still no luck that is specific.
please to all the programmers out there, help us. this is just a very simple app and it would hurt 5mins of your time just to point me in the right direction. I am most willing to view/review servelar even tons of source codes that is very similar or close to the solution we are looking for, you just have to share it to us. thank you. i hope somebody out there could help us.
adomila said:
Hi,
Before I start creating an application that would bypass the headset earphone jack switch(the one the activates once you insert a headset), I would like to know or find out first, if it is programatically possilble to bypass this manually by a registry setting or an application. If yes, kindly advice as to where I should start.
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In the registry:
HKLM/System/State/Hardware
change the key "Headset" 0 to 1.
but the headphones works like antenna and you dont hear any radio station.
ryomahino said:
In the registry:
HKLM/System/State/Hardware
change the key "Headset" 0 to 1.
but the headphones works like antenna and you dont hear any radio station.
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thank you ryomahino, for taking time to reply. i'm already aware of this registry work around and have done this already, but the hardware switch still persists. aslo sometimes or when you reset, it does not persists. so the only solution is having at switch, that will run the audio both on the headset and speaker, pretty much like what the fm radio does, but must also work on calls, together with the microphone. im pretty sure this is very much simple for those experience programmers out there. if we put together that fm radio and bluetooth audio capability then this would work. just need a little push/help as to where start. or if I could look into those source codes then we are ready to go...
technical question on fm radio app
Gurus/programmers/anybody,
Does anybody know, or at the least, give me an idea, as to how the o2 xda atom build in fm radio application, programmatically (technically) toggle from stereo headset to speaker? Just even, point me to the right direction, pls, I'll read tons of infos, if need be...
Had same problem on my Raphael, here is what I did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444581
Maybe this or similar would help you as a workaround too.....
this app would be great for htc touch hd!
i use normal 3,5inch headphones to listen to music but when i do a call i always have to plug them out! would be nice to have an app that automatically disables headset when you are in a call so you can have your headphones attached but still talk with the phone!
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Which ROM to use to achieve compatibility with mercedes bluetooth SAP

Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
Don't have a Merc....One day maybe. Had similar problems as you with a Parrot bluetooth car kit though.
Found that Dutty 29 Apr, and Laurentius' latest roms work completely with it though. Other roms may work too (don't want to tread on anybody's toes).
Some of the older cooked roms would either not route the audio properly, would only work for one call then stop routing, etc.
The latest rom I have tried is PDAViet'. Very fast in some aspects, Very slow at others. The Parrot car kit has real problems working with this rom.
Basically, try a Dutty (latest), or the latest Laurentius and I reckon everything will be fine.
Thank you very much Blartiartfast for you rapid and competent reply!
So I will try to change the Rom to the one's you mentioned and will report the result
Have a good time m8
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
i've had problems with both a hermes and kaiser connecting up to the mercs bluetooth.
What i found i had to do was to get both the merc and the kaiser to search and connect to each other at exactly the same time. I found that if you made the merc search for the phone it wouldn't auth, and vice versa. But oddly making both connect at the same time worked.
Hope this helps.
carkit
hello,
i have a bmw , and with the Laurentius_26 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915) , my bluetooth connection works as a charm.
grtz
Thanks both of you ghostie and BeeCee
I will try it
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
BeeeCeee said:
hello,
i have a bmw , and with the Laurentius_26 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915) , my bluetooth connection works as a charm.
grtz
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Agreed! Laurentius_26's latest ROM works very with my ML63 AMG. Sometimes it randomly disconnects, but what Phone/Rom isnt going to?
ghostie said:
i've had problems with both a hermes and kaiser connecting up to the mercs bluetooth.
What i found i had to do was to get both the merc and the kaiser to search and connect to each other at exactly the same time. I found that if you made the merc search for the phone it wouldn't auth, and vice versa. But oddly making both connect at the same time worked.
Hope this helps.
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This approach has worked for me several times as well. I use Dutty's April 29th ROM and have found stability to be fantastic. I haven't dropped a Bluetooth connection yet. Good luck.
T
Many thanks to all of you folks
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
Problems always persist with HTC Kaiser and MB bluetooth SAP
As stated in the replies to my question (Thanks to all of those who answered), I tried the last Dutty ROM and the last Laurentius ROM - but in no way I have been able to establish an adequate bluetooth SAP connection between my Kaiser and the mercedes benz bluetooth sap v2 cradle (I provide the original art. no A204 820 0535 in order to be more precise about the item I use).
Does anybody have a step by step "cooking receipt" how I could establish the communication? I suppose that the MB bluetooth sap device uses A2DP, but nobody could confirm until now...
The Kaiser recognizes the MB bluetooth sap device on a regular basis as "UHI-SN3483" and sometimes as "MB-Phone". The MB device recognizes the Kaiser as "Pocket_PC" with the Laurentius ROM and as "TYTN II" with the Dutty ROM. Note that the "Remote SIM Access" was enabled in both ROM's.
I tried also to modify the registry entry
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys\COD from decimal 5898764 (Smartphone) to decimal 5374476. But no connection at all.
I didn't use JETware because I do not want an HFP but a SAP connection.
Another point I could not deal with is that the Dutty ROM features in Settings an item named "Bluetooth SIM Access". What does it is for and how to set it? pointing on it does not result in another effect than display in the header where was located Settings the term "BT Remote SIM Acce"
Sorry I have been that long, but I really need to get into this bluetooth SAP connection with my Kaiser
Thank you all
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
hello guys... I've read in one of the threads for a diamond-rom-based rom that it includes "SIM Acess Version 3.0.xxx"... perhaps it will work with thsi new version... but until now I've not found any cooked, diamond-based rom, that includes SIM Access...
doc holiday said:
Does anybody have a step by step "cooking receipt" how I could establish the communication?
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With every ROM that I have used before this one - it has been a rather hit and miss endeavor to link my Parrott bluetooth in my car with my phone. I USUALLY have to tell the PArrott that I want to link with a phone and step through things.
With the DEATH V3.5 ROM installed I got in my car and was in a hurry and thought I would sync them later.
After I started the car the phone indicated that the PARROTT wanted to connect and establish a connection - I indicated that it should be allowed - I was then asked for a key code on my phone- I looked at the PARROTT display device and had a 4 digit code there - keyed that into my phone and it paired easily.
Go figure...
Bill
I work for Mercedes and I paired my Kaiser 10s of times. I am guessing you are in the UK because we don't use the sim access cradles. I don't see why our technology would be better than yours. The cradle we sell that works is 6-7-87-5878 But I doubt it will work there.
I was trying to use a Nokia 616 car kit with T mobile sim in the UK, but T mobile does not support Sim acccess profile with their sims. I am about to try an o2 sim which hopefully will.
If the NB uses sim access profile and the provider does not support that use of its sim, then the Nokia will not even allow fallback to bluetooth car profile.
I hope you proble is not being caused by the above but thought you should be aware in case!
Regards
Chapelhill
It does works for MBZ. I am using it without any issue
Htc touch diamond and Mercedes SAP kit
i have a mercedes sap v2 car kit, i have the same problem being not able to pair with windows mobile based phones, the car can see the phone but phone cannot recieve the password confirm and so connection fails.
i tried many roms, added the SAP settings, and yesterday had the chance to try the new HTC touch DIAMOND on car, but same results.
i think that solving this problem is just a software issue, first in windows profiles, or as addition from Phone manufacturers (as HTC) ,because the car kit is already fixed to car and cannot be modified to use other profile.
but i still have hope that the professionals in this forum can help to solve this problem, before any of Microsoft or HTC. Please share any information to help
Thank you
Mercedes Benz makes five BlueTooth adapters that have five proprietary firmware that each adapts to a different type of phone. For example, a Vorizon CDMA BT adapter will not work with Sprint CDMA phone and vice versa. So in essence, if you have a AT&T service, and use a Motorola Phone, MBZ provides a specific BT adapter, that would be close to impossible to pair with an HTC device.
I would suggest going to an authorized Mercedes Benz parts department at their dealership and request to try all 5 adapters b4 you commit to buying one.
Only In the new 2008 and 2009 C-Class MBZ cars the BT adapter is universal and built in. In earlier models and other models (2008's), the BT adapters would need to be purchased independently; a 2X4 device that installs in the center glove box that works as a link between the media port of the car ( Hands Free) and the phone.
My 2 cents....
try the neon radio rom
i tried it in one of my friends car
if it did not work (change your car to fit your phone )
doc holiday said:
Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
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Penske MB said:
It does works for MBZ. I am using it without any issue
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which Penske Mercedes Benz do you work at?
doc holiday said:
Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
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Try Htc shipped WM6.1
If not work.
Read this.
The Bluetooth® (HFP) telephone module, which is also suitable for Motorola PEBL U6, Nokia 6131, Nokia 6111, Nokia N70, Sony Ericsson K610i, Sony Ericsson W550i and BenQ-Siemens EF81 mobile phones, acts as an extension of the pre-installation for mobile phone with universal interface, a feature which is already present in many of the latest Mercedes-Benz models (optional extra Code 386). The module is simply inserted into this pre-installation in the centre armrest. The Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth® (HFP) telephone module, in independent-design closed-box format, will be available from Mercedes-Benz sales partners from March 2007, and is priced at EUR 250.00, including VAT (price applies to German market).
High-end telephony: the second generation of the Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth® (SAP) telephone module offers even more possibilities

Dual Bluetooth Pairing? A2DP vs. Headset

I'm going to guess this is a no, but I figure I'll ask anyway just in case. Is there a way to have WP7 pair to more than one BT device? For instance, pair the headset feature to my car and A2DP music to a separate receiver?
Thanks,
Ben
Hi,
Yes, dual pairing is possible. The only problem is that in WP7 you can not define, which service shall be used by every device. In Android you can check at every device, whether it shall use "Handsfree" and/or "Stereo Sound (A2DP)".
But if you have an unlocked device and a registry editor, then you can tweak it in the registry.
Goto:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/Device
Here you find all paired devices with cryptical names (e.g. 000ff6…). Click on it and you see the "name" of device. In folder "Services" you find subfolders with supported services (Handsfree and/or A2DP). You can change "enabled" from Dword=1 to Dword=0 to disable it.
This way you can define, which service shall be supported by which device.
Greetings
rupi99
rupi99 said:
Hi,
Yes, dual pairing is possible. The only problem is that in WP7 you can not define, which service shall be used by every device. In Android you can check at every device, whether it shall use "Handsfree" and/or "Stereo Sound (A2DP)".
But if you have an unlocked device and a registry editor, then you can tweak it in the registry.
Goto:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/Device
Here you find all paired devices with cryptical names (e.g. 000ff6…). Click on it and you see the "name" of device. In folder "Services" you find subfolders with supported services (Handsfree and/or A2DP). You can change "enabled" from Dword=1 to Dword=0 to disable it.
This way you can define, which service shall be supported by which device.
Greetings
rupi99
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Perfect! In the BT screen on the phone, will this get around tapping a device to pair disconnecting from the other device, or will this only work with auto pairing?
Now I just need to figure out why my HD2 locks up and reboots on A2DP audio playback.
Thanks again,
Ben
Unfortunately the above tweak seems not to work. At least for my HTC HD2 with Pdaimatejam 7.3 ROM. I have a bluetotooth device for my car with "handsfree" and "stereo sound" service. I want to use only the stereo. But even when I delete the "handsfree" entry in the registry my phone connects always with both services.
Regarding the reboots after connecting to bluetooth devices with "stereo" A2DP service I have the same problem with my HD2. It seems to be a common topic, maybe related to the ROM.
rupi99 said:
Unfortunately the above tweak seems not to work. At least for my HTC HD2 with Pdaimatejam 7.3 ROM. I have a bluetotooth device for my car with "handsfree" and "stereo sound" service. I want to use only the stereo. But even when I delete the "handsfree" entry in the registry my phone connects always with both services.
Regarding the reboots after connecting to bluetooth devices with "stereo" A2DP service I have the same problem with my HD2. It seems to be a common topic, maybe related to the ROM.
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Ahh, well that's disappointing. Did you reboot after you changed the registry settings, and did they remain set after reboot? As for A2DP on the HD2 and the ROM, I have had it happen in PDA and Ultra, but not Yuki. Unfortunately Yuki has the really high BT battery drain.
Ben
thanks a bunch - I was looking for this very solution and it works great on my Mango Nokia 710
rupi99 said:
Hi,
Yes, dual pairing is possible. The only problem is that in WP7 you can not define, which service shall be used by every device. In Android you can check at every device, whether it shall use "Handsfree" and/or "Stereo Sound (A2DP)".
But if you have an unlocked device and a registry editor, then you can tweak it in the registry.
Goto:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/Device
Here you find all paired devices with cryptical names (e.g. 000ff6…). Click on it and you see the "name" of device. In folder "Services" you find subfolders with supported services (Handsfree and/or A2DP). You can change "enabled" from Dword=1 to Dword=0 to disable it.
This way you can define, which service shall be supported by which device.
Greetings
rupi99
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