Any tweaks to fix keyboard lag? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

Keyboard lag is driving me nuts. Regardless of which rom I use, it's still there in one form or another.
I either get missed characters, too many characters (a problem someone else mentioned with Dutty's latest hybrid), or the thing just gets incredibly sluggish with presenting key presses.
It's almost like there's some background process that needs to clear out before the keyboard gets the full attention of the device.
Anyone got any ideas?

try turning off "Word Completion" feature, it might help
"Start" ==> "Settings" ==> "Personal" Tab ==> "Input" ==> "Word Completion" Tab ==> Uncheck
Good luck

Ive tried that and its still lagging

avega1027 said:
Ive tried that and its still lagging
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If you have TITL and flashed HTC rom, install the attached CAB file and SR.
If you have TyTN II and flashed AT&T rom, do this:
Remove the following value from your registry:
Find this key: HKLM\Hardware\Devicemap\Keybd
Either delete "CWSLayout" or set it = 0

nugift said:
If you have TITL and flashed HTC rom, install the attached CAB file and SR.
If you have TyTN II and flashed AT&T rom, do this:
Remove the following value from your registry:
Find this key: HKLM\Hardware\Devicemap\Keybd
Either delete "CWSLayout" or set it = 0
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I've got a original TyTN II and mine lags aswel

I quit using the keyboard altogether. I use the cootek keyboard (http://www.cootek.com/index.html) I can type faster on it than the keyboard anyway. Just took a couple of days to get used to it.
-McMex

It's nice to know I'm not alone in this then. It seems a real shame that a device as powerful as the Kaiser still has these problems with keyboard lag.
I might try installing a touch screen one again. But then, if I'm not going to use the keyboard, I might as well go back to my Touch

What about settings/buttons/up/down control I usually increase the repeat rate a bit and it improves for me.

In addition to turning off Word Completion, I also unchecked the Autocorrect option.
I immediately noticed that all of my keyboard lag problems disappeared.

Tried all of the above so far, and still have the problem. To be honest this single thing makes me want to get rid of the Kaiser completely. It's so annoying!

ok heres my problem..... i have an att tilt and i flashed to the HTC rom but now my symbol keys are different and i ran the keyboard fix and its still the same same anyone have any suggestions?

Xtreme80 said:
ok heres my problem..... i have an att tilt and i flashed to the HTC rom but now my symbol keys are different and i ran the keyboard fix and its still the same same anyone have any suggestions?
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Follow the instructions in TaurusBullba's thread about the Tilt keyboard here. Worked for me when I was running HTC-based roms.

this problem is a mixture of things such as your Kaiser going through the stored words with Auto-correct on as well as other things. the best thing to do is turn auto-correct and complete off as well as increase the repeat rate set the first delay to short and repeat rate to fast and you should be good to go. also clear your stored words list every day and it will type as fast as your fingers can go.

Please, someone answer the question: does everyone have this stupid keyboard lag/double letter problem or is it just some units? I want to know whether it's worth demanding a replacement or if I will just get the same problem all over again

I just changed my settings to the above posts and my tilt is fast now.
No lagging problems.

Hi:
I have a 2 week old Tilt (stock ROM), no keyboard lag at all.

dsyro said:
Please, someone answer the question: does everyone have this stupid keyboard lag/double letter problem or is it just some units? I want to know whether it's worth demanding a replacement or if I will just get the same problem all over again
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I was having the same EXACT issues as everyone was complaining about but once I increased both rates in my button option and went to the "input" and xt9 option in programs(I have that because I have the dualtouch rom from dutty) and turned off word completion and all the rest of the options, I have absolutely no lag now.
jb

If you will go to settings -> buttons and raise the repeat speed it will fix this problem.
Tweak it up and down until you get it where you like it. I noticed that if i put it all the way up it was putting in too many letters.

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Issue i got with ALL roms...

no matter what rom i try to use, ( i got tilt by the way) when i send sms or just type anything with the keyboard it doesn't always register all my keys. i press them firm and slow and yet it doesn't Always take the key i pressed. have to wait a min or two. any way to fix this?
right now im using viper rom.
any one else get this problem?
kingofall00 said:
no matter what rom i try to use, ( i got tilt by the way) when i send sms or just type anything with the keyboard it doesn't always register all my keys. i press them firm and slow and yet it doesn't Always take the key i pressed. have to wait a min or two. any way to fix this?
right now im using viper rom.
any one else get this problem?
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Sounds like bad keyboard?
this is the weird thing, keys work fine when i first install a fast rom. it seems like phone slows down and lags a bit. im 100% keys work fine as they do when i go to a 6.0 rom. it is with 6.1 that gives me the problems.
srry i should have said with 6.1 roms.
Ive noticed the same thing with 6.1 roms.... And really the threaded SMS, and maybe a slightly quiker boot time is all i notice better on the 6.1 roms
ok well maybe u can help me with my other issue.
how do you find out what hardSPL you have on your phone?
i dont remember what one i put on there. and i tried putting new 3.56 just want to make sure it is on there and was put on right.
try disabling xt9....that made a huge difference for me...
I disabled XT9, and while it made texting easier... I always have to proof read before i send.
O ther wis it look s like thi s.....
thank you . i tried that, maybe i need to make sure most if not all programs are closed. thanx.
kingofall00 said:
thank you . i tried that, maybe i need to make sure most if not all programs are closed. thanx.
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actually what will help the most is to set suggested words to 0, using kaisertweaks or advanced config, but of course that answer should have been easy to find as i've answered it personally at least 20+ times. Also disabling autocorrection seems to help too, but i think that the suggested words is the most significant improvement.
I have the same problem with my tilt. Dutty 6.1 hybrid. My problem seems to be limited to a slow space key though. so texts look like:
thisi s howm any of myt exts look.
I am going to try some of the suggestions and see what works.
psuarmy said:
I have the same problem with my tilt. Dutty 6.1 hybrid. My problem seems to be limited to a slow space key though. so texts look like:
thisi s howm any of myt exts look.
I am going to try some of the suggestions and see what works.
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try installing this cab:
http://www.4shared.com/file/59325516/b1bb4ea1/DuttyThroys_Disable_XT9.html
although i'm not sure it will work on his 29th release
mbarvian said:
try installing this cab:
http://www.4shared.com/file/59325516/b1bb4ea1/DuttyThroys_Disable_XT9.html
although i'm not sure it will work on his 29th release
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There is no "on the fly" word suggest or spell check with this ROM.
Problem with keyboard and screen
I too have had problems with the hardware keyboard. I have tried 3 different roms, all with the same problems. Disabling T9 does help, but doesnt fix it entirely. I have also had a problem with screen taps not being recognized.
In both instances, it appears the phone is busy running another process and it takes a few seconds for it to focus on the program I have running. I have checked taskmanager when this happens and the only running program is the one im using.. Perhaps a program that runs on startup in the background?

Touch Pro Keyboard Lag

Does anyone experience this? I find it really irritating. Sometimes its really smooth, but most of the time it doesn't work as well when you try to answer text messages.
Anyone has this keyboard lagging problem or is there any solution to it? (I've disabled the word suggestion and it still lags)
Its an WM feature
i dint find any issues as such...
Same porblem here
I also have this keyboard entry lag problem. Even with word suggestion disabled.
I am running original Stock rom, and hope that the next update solved this porblem.
Dangit I hope this problem won't be a continuation from the Kaiser/Tytn II/Tilt. The skipping letters and keyboard lag issue is one of the main reasons I want to upgrade from my Tilt. No matter what ROM or HardSPL I use the phone can't keep up with my typing speed.
Taajuus said:
Its an WM feature
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I'm sure you're kidding me. lol.
Well i didnt really have this problem with Tytn. Now that this happens, I felt really disappointed with the product.
As I know,that lag occurs,when you start to type immediately after sliding-out. The system is that time too busy with display rotating and that causes the lag(that;s the reason,why I want to disable autorotation,but don't know how to). It is OK after few seconds and it is displaying the chars as I type with no lag.
Im also victim of keyborad lag. Never used to get in on my TyTN 2
TomasNM said:
As I know,that lag occurs,when you start to type immediately after sliding-out. The system is that time too busy with display rotating and that causes the lag(that;s the reason,why I want to disable autorotation,but don't know how to). It is OK after few seconds and it is displaying the chars as I type with no lag.
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If you disable autorotate, wouldn't it stay in potrait mode when you're doing your typing?
I agree, only lag issues I have experienced is if typing starts immediately after pulling keyboard out. Worst scenario is to open Messages, then slide out keyboard and immediately try to start typing. Phone is at that time starting message program, changing screen orientation etc, so no wonder lag.
Just open keyboard, then click messages, wait for sec and you should not have lag...
Taajuus said:
I agree, only lag issues I have experienced is if typing starts immediately after pulling keyboard out. Worst scenario is to open Messages, then slide out keyboard and immediately try to start typing. Phone is at that time starting message program, changing screen orientation etc, so no wonder lag.
Just open keyboard, then click messages, wait for sec and you should not have lag...
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thanks for the tip, but doesn't improve much of my situation. wonder whether it has got to do with any tweaks i've done in the registry. In any case I'd try hard reseting and try again. Should it be the same, I'd guess we'll need new ROM updates to see if it improves the situation on the auto-rotate.
I mean it's really tough to switch your style when it comes to existing TyTn users. "message comes in -> slides and reply"
That's what I do usually. hmm.
quiescent said:
If you disable autorotate, wouldn't it stay in potrait mode when you're doing your typing?
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Do you know,how to do that? I don't. Please,share your tweak,I will be veeery grateful.
TomasNM said:
Do you know,how to do that? I don't. Please,share your tweak,I will be veeery grateful.
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no. not really Tomas, I'm a ppc noob
I have the same issue, however, even whenn waiting for a few sec's after opening the keyboard, it will still lag..
I have checked if I have other processes running, but I am not. It will start typing fine, then lags for a couple of seconds, then types normal again, after the lag. It will give me a lot of double lettres in the text I typed when the lag was occuring.. Very, very annoying
The hardware keyboard was the reason for getting this pnone. I used to have the QTEK9100, and there this was never an issue...
Mine is a straight out of the box MDA Vario IV, received from Tmobile friday..
Would a ROM change help in this case? I don't want to loose my warrantee on it...
quiescent said:
Does anyone experience this? I find it really irritating. Sometimes its really smooth, but most of the time it doesn't work as well when you try to answer text messages.
Anyone has this keyboard lagging problem or is there any solution to it? (I've disabled the word suggestion and it still lags)
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same here, not just when starting also during typing it stops for 10 sec, then continues. Also when using sliding keyboard iso display keyboard when fields are filled partially with characters these become unreadable when switching to sliding keyboard. iow sliding keyboard cannot be used always and cannot be switched to/from display keyboard. also after hardreset and rebuiling touchpro problem reoccured from start.
any suggestions??
Okay, yesterday I updated to the DCS Rom v15 and the problem is gone....
joeltje said:
Okay, yesterday I updated to the DCS Rom v15 and the problem is gone....
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Wait some days so that you mailbox grow you'll see that the problem comes back
I'm Running IMAP, and my mailbox is the same size as it was before flashing...
flashmp3 said:
Wait some days so that you mailbox grow you'll see that the problem comes back
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so you reckon it's a mailbox size issue?

Texting - word catchup

I've noticed that when I'm texting using the keyboard, it can take a few seconds for the words to catch up to what I am typing. Its weird, I'll be finished typing my thought, but I have to wait for all the words to show up after I'm done. I've turned off the autocorrect and other options thinking it was the cause .. but to no avail. Is there a fix for this?
Thanks
also want help with this
I have the same problem. A friend of mine with a non-HTC, WM6 device also has the issue too. My guess is it's just WM6 being slow and not the fault of the device.
Same thing here...
but i think it happens to be due to the lag.
Because ill get a text message...and ill open it...and it will be on the screen.
Then i will open my keyboard it would switch to landscape and i will start typing, and if i look up, it would be as if the words were trying to "catch up" to my typing. But after like 5 secs it would be back to normal.
Maybe just the lag that comes out of openning the keyboard?
I think it's the lag too. Because if this happens when I notice my device is running slow. After I do a hard reset though, when it's the fastest, i don't have this problem.
The other day I typed a six page paper on my phone and there was no lag; I had just done a hard reset.
you guys try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436795
It worked for the Tilt. I haven't tried i yet on the Fuze but it was a game changer for the Tilt.
I would blame wm6.1 for the lagginess since all the phones i've used have this sort of issue. Add to that tf3d and your processor is working ot.
umma have to try this on my Spint Touch Pro
bugsykoosh said:
you guys try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436795
It worked for the Tilt. I haven't tried i yet on the Fuze but it was a game changer for the Tilt.
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anyone tried this yet?
By the way my Fuze (with stock ROM) doesn't have a delay. It's one of the few things I really noticed on the change from the Tilt so I don't have a need to try it...sorry but hope this helps
This is likely entirely related to the amount of 'stuff' you have going on in the background, on a clean ROM you'd be hard pressed to get this to happen. The more stuff you pile on, the less responsive it's going to be. I didn't notice this behavior for the short time I was running the stock Fuze ROM, though, so a 3rd party program may be the culprit.
I think its because the OS give priority to redrawing the screen, and your text message comes second. Every WinMo phone I have ever used will lag a little bit when chaging the screen.
bugsykoosh said:
you guys try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436795
It worked for the Tilt. I haven't tried i yet on the Fuze but it was a game changer for the Tilt.
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lbhocky19 said:
anyone tried this yet?
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I just installed the cab and everything seems to be a lot faster. Once I get typing more during the day will be the real test but just some messing around typing words I didn't notice the delay. So far so good
Thanks for the link
Is it just me (showing my age) or is the font in a threaded conversation REALLY small? Anybody know where/how to enlarge it a little?
TIA!
hopper13 said:
Is it just me (showing my age) or is the font in a threaded conversation REALLY small? Anybody know where/how to enlarge it a little?
TIA!
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It is pretty small if you ask me. I've found that rotating your thumb "around" the center circle hardware button zooms in / out on the text. It doesnt work so 100% smoothly (WinMo again probably lol) but it does let you enlarge text. you can also set your typing text and system font to be larger elsewhere but I dont recall off hand.
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It is pretty small if you ask me. I've found that rotating your thumb "around" the center circle hardware button zooms in / out on the text. It doesnt work so 100% smoothly (WinMo again probably lol) but it does let you enlarge text. you can also set your typing text and system font to be larger elsewhere but I dont recall off hand.
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Duh, never thought to try zooming! lol Thanks.
Creel said:
I just installed the cab and everything seems to be a lot faster. Once I get typing more during the day will be the real test but just some messing around typing words I didn't notice the delay. So far so good
Thanks for the link
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Do you own a touch pro?
Tell us,is it worth installing this cab?
Are you really seeing an improvement?
i just installed it it definetly seems quicker
of course when sliding out the keyboard there will be catchup just because its working extra but after a few seconds its all good and stays fast
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Do you own a touch pro?
Tell us,is it worth installing this cab?
Are you really seeing an improvement?
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Yeah I have a Touch Pro and I think its worth it. I've been texting all day on it and the catch up has been improved greatly.
Yea I also just did the suggested tweak and now it takes about half or less of the time to catch up. The lag is usually only a few characters now.

SMS contacts won't populate

Hello,
I was using Mighty Rom 5 and my hardware keyboard just stopped working totally.. I did a hard reset and had the same issue.. Re-flashed the phone and its working good again, no more keyboard issues.
Now the problem is when I type in a name in the TO: feild, it won't auto populate the perons i'm trying to get to any more.
For example I would type out Der and at the bottom of my scree it would say derek s., i could click on that name and it would fill out his number. Now i have to click the to field and select the name that way.
i've tired turning on the predictive text, auto-correct, suggest new words (none of them will work even in texts).. I've messed with other options as well, nothing works.
The odd thing is I used to be able to hit FN-spacebar and get T9 menu, doesn't work anymore either. Maybe part of the new rom update.
suggestions?
On thing I noticed is that when I go to settings and personal, input options, I only have 4 options, Keyboard, block recognizer, fingerkeyb(i installed that one) and letter recognizer.. I don't have the full qwerty option or the others..
well after flashing the phone, going back to stock and trying everthing else I can think of, I found a fix.
Take a hammer, smash the phone, get the new palm.
Thats the last HTC phone I will evey buy.. I replaced my mogul 3 times, and i'm on my 4th HTC Touch Pro (all hardware keybaord issues, or this software crap).
HTC can suck my D***

SIP menu takes a long time to open

I have a Gene (p3400i) device.
Sometimes, my 'sip menu' (the one that pops up when you tap the arrow next to the keyboard icon) takes very long to open... up to a minute some times.
I don't know what causes this behaviour - sometimes its after I install a new sip and sometimes after I uninstall one. Nothing will bring it back to normal, not even a soft-reset.
However, if I make a full backup with SPB backup, hard-reset and restore the problem is solved. Despite the fact that SPB backup restores every part of the registry and memory.
Any suggestions? Is this common? Does someone know the exact cause? And can it be solved with out a tedious hard-reset and restore?
Most recently it began when I used a registry cleaning program to clean out some junk registry items.
all my devices have been like that since wm5
Rudegar said:
all my devices have been like that since wm5
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Have you ever found a way to solve it? Apart from the backup-and-restore thing I pointed out?
nop my devices been like that directly from hardreset all of them
directly from the store too with the rom they came with
Rudegar said:
nop my devices been like that directly from hardreset all of them
directly from the store too with the rom they came with
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You mean that all your devices have taken 60s+ for the sip menu to pop up even without you doing anything (installing/uninstalling SIPS or REG edits)?
That's odd. I have what is probably the slowest winmo device around (the htc gene) and on the stock rom the SIP menu still usually popped up in under 5s. Its just that sometimes, this behaviour would suddenly change....
Speed up SIP display and overall performance increase
This has been discussed many many times.
Since WM5 I do the following and it works extremely well, I wonder why it isn't more popular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432966
clausg said:
This has been discussed many many times.
Since WM5 I do the following and it works extremely well, I wonder why it isn't more popular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432966
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Wow! I had no idea about this!
Actually, come to think about it, the backup and restore routine that worked for me essentially amounted to this I guess...
Still, thanks!
Damn this!
I'd personally much rather be able to hide the menu all together. I really never change my input methods, so having it there and hitting it accidentally is really just a pain in the a**.
So, basically what I'm asking is if there is a way to *hide* the menu chooser all together?
Idealy I'd like to do away with it, and have it moved to the Start > settings> menu. that way there's no making any mistakes.
See my post from a couple weeks ago for reference.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4137470&postcount=288

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