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Official Htc Wm6 -- Contact Your Operator

Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!

TaurusBullba said:
Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!
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That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????

papamopps said:
That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????
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Quite different, unfortunately.

TaurusBullba said:
Quite different, unfortunately.
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I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?

papamopps said:
I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?
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That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?

TaurusBullba said:
That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?
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All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.

papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.

TaurusBullba said:
Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.
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"New OS build contains not whole files from tytn's rom, but more of them.
As i said before: camera is oem application and couldn't work on wizard. And i rebuild some modules from tytn's rom by myself to force it to work.
Im going to finish my tests of that rom, but i can say now that it has very good perfomance. It works like a charm.
Btw, it is unique rom. All roms that contains os 5.2.968 and the same build or rom version, will have my rom as base rom. So I am the first man who made t"
taken from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296743

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...roadmap-shows-at-least-a-june-wait-253805.php
Its going to be truth!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/19/htc-reveals-official-windows-mobile-6-upgrade-plans/
And here!

O2 UK says no...
Here is the response I received from O2 Data Support when I referred them to the announcement from HTC:
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Good Morning Terry
Thank you for your email
I am not aware at present of any Windows Mobile 6.0 upgrade options being made available for our XDA devices including the XDa Mini S in the very near future. Historically speaking O2 has only provided ROM upgrades on the existing OS and has never provided OS upgrades on any of the XDA devices. Please monitor the website link attached below for future upgrades.
http://www.o2.co.uk/xda
If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
Haroon Sacha
Customer Technical Support
O2-UK
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If you want to try and change their mind, e-mail [email protected].

papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!

Dr Puttingham said:
That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!
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Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.

papamopps said:
Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.
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Gee, what did we do before mun????

Dr Puttingham said:
Gee, what did we do before mun????
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Just stop it here - ok. Some people prefere that some that. OK? But I think there are so many discussion meanwhile about what is written and what not - that it is obviously that time goes on?!

hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)

duke_stix said:
hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)
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That seems like a good plan to me. What operator did you have in mind? We should probably pick one that has traditionally been more open to upgrades in the past. That would definitely rule out Cingular/ATT here in the US.
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.

TaurusBullba said:
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.
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I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.

papamopps said:
I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.
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No offense was taken by me. As for Faria, yes he can be a little *****y, most genius's are.. Please realize though that he DOES "butter our bread", along with others. And he DOES endure a lot of nonsense and crap. Myself, I wouldn't have come back after some of crap that he (and me in a VERY small way) have taken here.....
Now, back to the OP! I doubt that Cingular is going to be of any help, morons... I WILL say that I've seen more come from T-Mobile regarding official updates with the Wizard (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)

I would vote for T-Mobile too. O2 suck for updates.

Just to say a big thanks to mUnrus and the community!

Yes...a BIG thanks to all and aspecially guys like mUnrus who spend all their time coding and compiling the latest goodies for us geeks!
I own a Trinity myself (WM6-GPS by LVSW), bur yesterday my collegue's Wizard needed an upgrade. So i said to the poor guy: "Whoa! Let's hack the darn thing and get you WindowsMobile 6"...
After some well spent hours on the forum and the Wiki for the Wizard i was able to determine wether it was a G3 or G4 device he had, found out how to CID unlock this baby and ultimately we picked our choice from the plethora of nice WM6 ROM's that's out here... After 3 complete ROM flashes and the SIM and CID unlocking procdure, we've got a beautifull Wizard running WM6 by mUn (the NotTooSmart fixed version) fast and smoothly...
The Sticky posts and the Wiki were all so helpfull and crystalclear, that i didn't have to go and ask nOOb-questions anywhere... I'm not really a nOOb myself, cause i'm pretty used to flashing my own phones every now and then with the latest and greatest, but a Wizard was a completely new cup of tea for me (with the G3/G4 versions). So it proved to be a bit more work than just a single flash like my own phones, but with all the great tutorials i never went wrong on a single step of the whole procedure... Great stuff guys!
So my collegue run's WM6 on his Wizard (which had the oldest possible ROM on there... :i guess he is a nOOb to this stuff...) as from now, and he's very happy with it...
Ofcourse i didn't forget to tell him to upgrade AS to 4.5 before he could re-sync his device with Outlook, and within minutes after getting home he messaged me that his Wizard was back in business.
So, GUYS...! I wanna say a BIG thanks again to all who made all of this possible! Like mUn (and the other chefs) and all people who write these great tutorials... !

THNX !
Just like the idea of this thank you post.
so i like to thank everyone for joining in on this project and adding
there 2 cents
which in the end makes us richer and more fortunate
never i my 20 years of computerlife i would have thought that one would
make a device so much faster then my C64 and so much processingpower
in it that we probably wont use it 99% of the time.. lol
anyways i live for the moment this stuff being integrated in my wrist watch

Thanks to all the Wizard forum members!

All,
Just wanted to add my thanks to all the talented people who roam these forums ! I've benefited greatly from your work. Particular thanks to faria who provided me with working ROMs when I was beginning to wonder if I should just go buy another phone. Also to funman who guided me through building my own Roms when I thought that was beyond my skills.
I'm heading over to the Hermes forums now. A friend gave up on figuring his out and so he sold it to me for $200 (he didn't know about xda-developers!). I couldn't pass that up! I hope the guys over there are as nice !
Best wishes to you all!
saeba
Proud new owner of a Cingular 8525 !

saeba said:
All,
Just wanted to add my thanks to all the talented people who roam these forums ! I've benefited greatly from your work. Particular thanks to faria who provided me with working ROMs when I was beginning to wonder if I should just go buy another phone. Also to funman who guided me through building my own Roms when I thought that was beyond my skills.
I'm heading over to the Hermes forums now. A friend gave up on figuring his out and so he sold it to me for $200 (he didn't know about xda-developers!). I couldn't pass that up! I hope the guys over there are as nice !
Best wishes to you all!
saeba
Proud new owner of a Cingular 8525 !
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Lucky Dog!! Bring back the ggod stuff you find over there!

You're in good company over there...
A few of us are in the Hermes FORUM, myself and Jose included.
Jump in, the water's fine!

See you there
Got myself a hermes today. Insurance company typo so got a vario 2 instead of 1 .
Just flashed olipro hard spl followed by pro black 3. Happy days
Helpful bunch too

Great to hear!
I've gotten off to a terrific start thanks to the Hermes forums. Installed Custel 2.5 WM6 and I'm back to almost the same setup that I had on my Wizard. I was very happy to find most everything transfered over (PocketBreeze, iLauncher, PocketWeather, phonealarm, rlToday, IM+, muns keyboard skin, and the JPL big button phone dialer !! About the only thing missing is BatteryStatus. The FAQ says there's no overclocking software for the Hermes?
And the speed using 3G! WOW!!! Absolutely worth it !!

To everyone that has a hermes,
There are already offical WM6 versions out.. maybe you should test some first before you brick your phone... i dont mean to sound the way it does but i'm still hoping t-mobile or at&t are gonna release an offical Wm6 for my MDA.. so i do haev to say good luck to everyone with there new hermes

nstefanelli said:
To everyone that has a hermes,
There are already offical WM6 versions out.. maybe you should test some first before you brick your phone...
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I did. The first thing I did upon receiving the phone was load the official Cingular WM6 rom on it. Given that there was a WM6 for the hermes, I thought that maybe I'd just stick with that version.
However, I ran into some small annoyances (activesync problems) and it was missing some software apps that I gotten used to having (Task Manager as an example), so that's when I decided to try one of the "unofficial" roms. I did my homework and read through the load process and basically followed the instructions. Custel focuses on making Cingular compatible roms, so it was a good fit for my needs.
I guess I was very cautious about installing custom roms when I first got my wizard (prior to my hermes). But after all the annoyances with it (daily soft-resets, monthly hard-resets, ongoing network problems, etc., etc.), if I hadn't installed one, I would have given up on the phone. Another example of that: I got my hermes because a friend got fed up with it and got a Treo instead. From installing custom roms, I got into customizing them myself using faria's kitchen apps.
It's not for everyone and I understand that, but I've greatly benefited from the efforts of the guys who work so hard to build these custom roms !

New UI / Mobile OS(?) - To Dutty and Chef's

Dutty and Chef's,
I am not sure if any of the devices like Kaiser can be ported with this new mobile OS(?). Its a open source. Developers, have a look and try to make something out of it.
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile

people have been working on getting linux working on the hermes for a very long long time and not much came from it so i don't think much work will be done for the kaiser at this time. Maybe in a year or so but this is not something that new and there is no real benefit from porting it to the kaiser

Sorry, I thought this is something new. Mod, please delete / lock this post if you feel so.

Developers please help to keep Herald ALIVE!!!!!!!!!

Hi guys , it is true that herald is somehow out dated but we can still keep it alive by new looking roms ,sorry i donnot mean to spam or ask for free labor ,we will donate , from me as far as i live in Iran ,we donnot have credit cards to donate but we can done it by clicking and supporting sponserd links
anybody interested in keeping him alive!?

I think I have breathed all the life into the Herald/Wing/Dopod that I can:
I have made the Wing look like Windows Phone 7 (with my Trib7 Suite), like the HTC Evo (with my SPB Snark Edition), like the HTC HD2 (with my TribM2D ROM Set) and I have made Titanium available for the Wing. Not only that I have made it light and fast with my Base ROM with more than 70MB of internal storage.
In retro spect, I hope that new and old users of the device provide more ROMs. But I don't think it is feasible..
Not because of the people using the devices - not at all - but because of the limit to the device's resources and because Microsoft won't be putting out anymore updates: Build 23676 is the latest and greatest from Microsoft as of the 14th of August. After this, I don't believe that there will be anymore updates to work with.
As a challenge, mate, I'd like to see people out there make a ROM with this build.

I'm personally waiting for android to be better completed and then jump completely over to that... which is wing linux.
Still, while the wm 6.x are a huge improvement over what came with the phone and was definitely worth it and appreciated... there are a few bugs that are annoying. It would be great to see those fixed but I don't expect it to happen. The current state is good enough to be better anyway.

I agree
Hi everyone
Dear Tribulattifather or may i call you "the king of the wing"
i have used your roms and they are all best. as you mentioned we have a limited resources ... i would like to cook new roms but 1 thing that i donnot know where to start , many threads but as a noob to cook i need some clear directions ,if you can point me a good direction so i will be the soldier for you ,
thanks again for care Tribulattifather

Your the best !
I found your guide about cooking roms ! the best developer ever ! i will try to put my ideas and make a new rom but not as a challenge !!!!

Thank you; I really appreciate your patronage.
I can't wait to see what you guys come up with. I was thinking about getting another Wing again. They're pretty cheap now.
If you make a ROM i'll test it out.

Thats good
Hi
Thanks ! is there any visual emulator of herald so it will help us preventing sudden bricking the phone ?
2- if i wanna use spb shell only i have to put it on cabs folder ?
thanks again

Well, if you plan on making custom firmware for your device you should HardSPL your phone.
But you actually don't need custom firmware for SPB.
There is unfortunately no emulator for our phones, however.

Thanks again .cuz i thought there was some emulator for hd2 , so i will try to collect as many icons as i can ! thanks again

Okay. Cool.
Hey, also, I just bought another Wing
So i'm ready whenever you are