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Thanks to all the Wizard forum members!

All,
Just wanted to add my thanks to all the talented people who roam these forums ! I've benefited greatly from your work. Particular thanks to faria who provided me with working ROMs when I was beginning to wonder if I should just go buy another phone. Also to funman who guided me through building my own Roms when I thought that was beyond my skills.
I'm heading over to the Hermes forums now. A friend gave up on figuring his out and so he sold it to me for $200 (he didn't know about xda-developers!). I couldn't pass that up! I hope the guys over there are as nice !
Best wishes to you all!
saeba
Proud new owner of a Cingular 8525 !

saeba said:
All,
Just wanted to add my thanks to all the talented people who roam these forums ! I've benefited greatly from your work. Particular thanks to faria who provided me with working ROMs when I was beginning to wonder if I should just go buy another phone. Also to funman who guided me through building my own Roms when I thought that was beyond my skills.
I'm heading over to the Hermes forums now. A friend gave up on figuring his out and so he sold it to me for $200 (he didn't know about xda-developers!). I couldn't pass that up! I hope the guys over there are as nice !
Best wishes to you all!
saeba
Proud new owner of a Cingular 8525 !
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Lucky Dog!! Bring back the ggod stuff you find over there!

You're in good company over there...
A few of us are in the Hermes FORUM, myself and Jose included.
Jump in, the water's fine!

See you there
Got myself a hermes today. Insurance company typo so got a vario 2 instead of 1 .
Just flashed olipro hard spl followed by pro black 3. Happy days
Helpful bunch too

Great to hear!
I've gotten off to a terrific start thanks to the Hermes forums. Installed Custel 2.5 WM6 and I'm back to almost the same setup that I had on my Wizard. I was very happy to find most everything transfered over (PocketBreeze, iLauncher, PocketWeather, phonealarm, rlToday, IM+, muns keyboard skin, and the JPL big button phone dialer !! About the only thing missing is BatteryStatus. The FAQ says there's no overclocking software for the Hermes?
And the speed using 3G! WOW!!! Absolutely worth it !!

To everyone that has a hermes,
There are already offical WM6 versions out.. maybe you should test some first before you brick your phone... i dont mean to sound the way it does but i'm still hoping t-mobile or at&t are gonna release an offical Wm6 for my MDA.. so i do haev to say good luck to everyone with there new hermes

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To everyone that has a hermes,
There are already offical WM6 versions out.. maybe you should test some first before you brick your phone...
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I did. The first thing I did upon receiving the phone was load the official Cingular WM6 rom on it. Given that there was a WM6 for the hermes, I thought that maybe I'd just stick with that version.
However, I ran into some small annoyances (activesync problems) and it was missing some software apps that I gotten used to having (Task Manager as an example), so that's when I decided to try one of the "unofficial" roms. I did my homework and read through the load process and basically followed the instructions. Custel focuses on making Cingular compatible roms, so it was a good fit for my needs.
I guess I was very cautious about installing custom roms when I first got my wizard (prior to my hermes). But after all the annoyances with it (daily soft-resets, monthly hard-resets, ongoing network problems, etc., etc.), if I hadn't installed one, I would have given up on the phone. Another example of that: I got my hermes because a friend got fed up with it and got a Treo instead. From installing custom roms, I got into customizing them myself using faria's kitchen apps.
It's not for everyone and I understand that, but I've greatly benefited from the efforts of the guys who work so hard to build these custom roms !

suggest some stable roms?

i have been using wm6.1 lately for nncuon n ranju but i m not satisified with it as it in its initial stages of development....n i m fed up of the problems...so i m requesting u to suggest roms which is
1.stable
2.fast
3.doesnt requier too much of resets
4.dont wish to format my phone for another rom for atleast a year
5.please give me the link for it or suggest the roms so i cud find myself..
6.i know all roms are not the best but the cookers but do suggest me the best of the best with little problems if they persist..
thanks in advance

prawns said:
i have been using wm6.1 lately for nncuon n ranju but i m not satisified with it as it in its initial stages of development....n i m fed up of the problems...so i m requesting u to suggest roms which is
1.stable
2.fast
3.doesnt requier too much of resets
4.dont wish to format my phone for another rom for atleast a year
5.please give me the link for it or suggest the roms so i cud find myself..
6.i know all roms are not the best but the cookers but do suggest me the best of the best with little problems if they persist..
thanks in advance
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After Reading your message, I think I like you very much, can you do me favor and provide me with winning Lottery numbers for coming Saturday and please make sure I win at least 10million EU and above. thanks
furthermore dont take my message to personal, it is getting to bored here in Universal forum. cheers mate

i would have asked the same as Prawns -- I am afraid Uni is for Hobbyists only

Since the Uni never had an HTC-build of WM6, ALL ROMs are cooked from versions for other devices.
There are NO definitive drivers that are guaranteed to work 100% correctly 100% of the time, because HTC never released them.
So - if you want total stability, and total reliability, go find a totally vanilla WM5 ROM - that'll give you that (but none of the 'extras').
If the only thing you really want from WM6.1 is the Office 2007-compatible Office Mobile stuff, then either build a WM5 ROM with that in-place, or look around - I'm pretty sure some of the WM5 cooked ROMs have that in them.
If you want all the latest & greatest, bells & whistles, then you've got to put up with the facts that:
a) There may be problems - these are being cooked by a single developer working pretty much in the dark, NOT by a development team.
b) The ROM likely won't have exactly the feature-set you want to see -- if you want that, either approach a cooker directly with an offer to pay him/her for it, or build it yourself (which is what I'm doing). Yes - it's a painful, time-consuming process, but at least you'll learn something - I sure am!
Just my opinion.....
-PJC

Requested ROM

Has anyone seems Kavanna's WM 6.1 version for the T-Mo Dash?? It's awesome. I'd love it if someone was able to come up with something similar on the Wing...
here's the link with pics
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374890

That is WM6.1 STANDARD no Professional!

ok...so what's the big deal with that? It doesnt matter to me what's on it. I LOVE the layout of the home screen...if someone wanted to cook a rom that looked similar that would be awesome...
EDIT: I've searched thru the ROM's on this site and didnt find anything i liked. i dont like any of the opentouch stsuff or the touch-it stuff...i think maybe ill just go back to the dash/excalibur. I think i liked that phone better than the Wing/Herald

trav2001 said:
ok...so what's the big deal with that? It doesnt matter to me what's on it. I LOVE the layout of the home screen...if someone wanted to cook a rom that looked similar that would be awesome...
EDIT: I've searched thru the ROM's on this site and didnt find anything i liked. i dont like any of the opentouch stsuff or the touch-it stuff...i think maybe ill just go back to the dash/excalibur. I think i liked that phone better than the Wing/Herald
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The software is incompatible with our phones because it's for a different TYPE of OS altogether. That's why he mentioned it. Not that professional means better. Professional means that it has the touchscreen version of Windows Mobile which is very different from the "standard" version of Windows Mobile. It's like telling a person to that you don't care that it's an XBOX360, it runs an NT kernel, so you want to be able to run a windows XP app on it. You can't just run the app, it has to be modified at the code level to work. That software was created by microsoft, so we do not have the source code to modify it.
Therefore, that's a standard phone, this is a professional. Everyone has their preference.
On a side note: If you're talking about TouchIT, you must be looking at some old ROMs... itje hasn't posted anything in a long time. Are you looking at Manila2D ROMs?

I was on the Herald Rom Development forum and went thru the Rom's Reveiwed by Pureskilzzz...It's got a lot of ROMs on it, but all of them are either all black themes, which i dont want, or the open touch iphone style stuff that I i dont really like either. I really want to get threaded messaging back, i used to have a treo 750, and the Dash I had upgraded to the Kavanna WM 6.1 and the threades SMS on there was amazing...
I'm not saying that i prefer the standard over the professioanl version. Im saying that like the way Kavanna did the home screen. With the sliding glass panes and the way it's set up. If that could be implemented into a Wing ROM would be awesome. if not, then ill stick with the WM 6.0 version i currently have my wing.

trav2001 said:
I was on the Herald Rom Development forum and went thru the Rom's Reveiwed by Pureskilzzz...It's got a lot of ROMs on it, but all of them are either all black themes, which i dont want, or the open touch iphone style stuff that I i dont really like either. I really want to get threaded messaging back, i used to have a treo 750, and the Dash I had upgraded to the Kavanna WM 6.1 and the threades SMS on there was amazing...
I'm not saying that i prefer the standard over the professioanl version. Im saying that like the way Kavanna did the home screen. With the sliding glass panes and the way it's set up. If that could be implemented into a Wing ROM would be awesome. if not, then ill stick with the WM 6.0 version i currently have my wing.
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WHY should we impelment a TOdayscreen that is ONLY be used by joystick...when we (WM Professional) have a touchscreen!
Go to abtterystatus theme thread and see if someone copied the desinge with the touchscreen functionality...but i don´t know...
ANd threadded SMS can be added via .cab i think...or just install WM6.1 on your Wing!!!!
When tat is all you want...you really don´t know what device you have...cause you are running a wing with WM6 or WM5....
IF you ever have tested any of our roms you would see that a WIng is 1000times better thatn a Device without touchscreen.

good greif all i asked was a simple question and things get blown outta porportion. Ive read this forum for 6 months before i signed up knewing that this sort of thing would happen. Now it has...last time i will ask a question on this site ever...
Ive had MANY, MANY, MANY smartpones and used cooked rooms on all of them. I know that the Dash is not a touch screen phone and that the moving crystal look is for it's jogger bar...I'm just saying plain and simple...I LIKE THE LOOK of the sliding glass. im sure that the animation could be done weather is touch screen or not...
but with that said I do believe i finally found a ROM that I will enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399300
Im not into the entire fancy looking iphone ease of use stuff. I just like simple nice looking software. That's all i was trying to say...sorry for any confusion.

Ok!
Hey, its ok guys! I can see where papa is comming from. He spends alot of time making ROMs at the cost of his free time and effort and you kind of came across as a little demanding and abrasive. Alot of people started from the dash and ended up getting a wing/herald and are proud of the progress that has been made to further development on this phone, myself included! There are tons more options available as far as ROMs and UI for the Wing than the Dash, I know because I have both and just flashed my Dash again lastnight after waiting for about 4 months for a new ROM to come out! As far as my Wing, well I cant even keep up with the leaps and bounds in development on that! There has been alot of tention around here about people just poping up a demanding things without having bothered to try to look aroud and find it for themselves or bother to learn to do it themselves! So dont take it personaly if you get flamed or someone doesn't see things the way you do! Just decide to learn from it. You cant go wrong learning something new! Who knows, you could be the next new ROM chef for the Wing/Herald! That would ROCK!

we NEVER flamed someone...but the thread title "ROM request" ...this is not a "i wish for christmas present show" it is hard work...and there are thousand of threads relating the debatte about standard looking and professional WM6.1....
and it allways ended the same answer...: there is no rom looking like that..because it is not sensefull!!!!!
that´s all!

Sorry!
papamopps said:
we NEVER flamed someone...but the thread title "ROM request" ...this is not a "i wish for christmas present show" it is hard work...and there are thousand of threads relating the debatte about standard looking and professional WM6.1....
and it allways ended the same answer...: there is no rom looking like that..because it is not sensefull!!!!!
that´s all!
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Sorry, I did not mean to imply that you flamed anyone! I was just trying to let the guy know that instead of getting offended he could put some effort into learning and not as you said write a christmas list. My bad! See, I learned! I am always grateful for everything you have done papamops! I meant no slight to you or what you said!

dashmaster1000 said:
Sorry, I did not mean to imply that you flamed anyone! I was just trying to let the guy know that instead of getting offended he could put some effort into learning and not as you said write a christmas list. My bad! See, I learned! I am always grateful for everything you have done papamops! I meant no slight to you or what you said!
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I don´t feel you meant me...so nothing to say sorry for....
espacially you don´t have to say sorry...you jsut wanted to open his eys

trav2001 said:
I was on the Herald Rom Development forum and went thru the Rom's Reveiwed by Pureskilzzz...It's got a lot of ROMs on it, but all of them are either all black themes, which i dont want, or the open touch iphone style stuff that I i dont really like either. I really want to get threaded messaging back, i used to have a treo 750, and the Dash I had upgraded to the Kavanna WM 6.1 and the threades SMS on there was amazing...
I'm not saying that i prefer the standard over the professioanl version. Im saying that like the way Kavanna did the home screen. With the sliding glass panes and the way it's set up. If that could be implemented into a Wing ROM would be awesome. if not, then ill stick with the WM 6.0 version i currently have my wing.
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Most of those ROMs are older. Threaded messaging is built into all of the WM6.1 ROMs. Search for a Manila2D ROM for a "sliding" pane setup. The reason for pointing out the professional and standard was just to point out that it's incompatible and part of the WM6.1 of standard phones, not something that was created by that cook. I'm sorry if it sounded like I was flaming.

Replacing my Universal...

Hello there, I'm planning to replace my HTC Universal after great 3 years of working! and I'm still pleased with it to be honest!
My new PPC should has a keyboard, so my question is simple! is the HTC Raphael the good choice to go with?
I know there is the SE X1 as another choice, but I think I liked the HTC more
What do you think?

so guyz...no replys at all?

I really like my Raphael and as far as i worked with it, i had no problems and would recommend it.
There are (of course) some bugs, but they can be fixed with progs out of this forum. So if u are not afraid of spending some time in setting up ur raphael this could be ur new favourite.
The keyboard is pretty good (for my opinion), the buttons are small, but i don't have a problem hitting the right one, even though i got thicker fingers.
If u have some specific questions just ask, i'll see if i can answer.

hi there
having used the universal and then using a hermes as a day-to-day device and now the raphael i can only say that im glad i bought one!
the size of the device is simply astonishing for what has been crammed into it
what do you primarily use your device for?
the universal is a well seasoned device with much support and it appears the raphael is heading that way too!

Thanx guyz,
No problem at all with spending time fixing bugz cause really I like these stuff and I enjoy searching and fixing...that's what kept me from replacing my Universal
good to hear that about the keyboard, cause I really need it and I think by time I should be used to it...
yup, the size is a great thing compared to the huge universal for sure I'm now a medical resident...so I will use it to have some books around me all the time beside its internet & phone cababilities...
there is nothin specific now in my mind to ask, but I got a positive impression in general and I think I'm gonna buy it soon
I'll get back to you!

Developers please help to keep Herald ALIVE!!!!!!!!!

Hi guys , it is true that herald is somehow out dated but we can still keep it alive by new looking roms ,sorry i donnot mean to spam or ask for free labor ,we will donate , from me as far as i live in Iran ,we donnot have credit cards to donate but we can done it by clicking and supporting sponserd links
anybody interested in keeping him alive!?

I think I have breathed all the life into the Herald/Wing/Dopod that I can:
I have made the Wing look like Windows Phone 7 (with my Trib7 Suite), like the HTC Evo (with my SPB Snark Edition), like the HTC HD2 (with my TribM2D ROM Set) and I have made Titanium available for the Wing. Not only that I have made it light and fast with my Base ROM with more than 70MB of internal storage.
In retro spect, I hope that new and old users of the device provide more ROMs. But I don't think it is feasible..
Not because of the people using the devices - not at all - but because of the limit to the device's resources and because Microsoft won't be putting out anymore updates: Build 23676 is the latest and greatest from Microsoft as of the 14th of August. After this, I don't believe that there will be anymore updates to work with.
As a challenge, mate, I'd like to see people out there make a ROM with this build.

I'm personally waiting for android to be better completed and then jump completely over to that... which is wing linux.
Still, while the wm 6.x are a huge improvement over what came with the phone and was definitely worth it and appreciated... there are a few bugs that are annoying. It would be great to see those fixed but I don't expect it to happen. The current state is good enough to be better anyway.

I agree
Hi everyone
Dear Tribulattifather or may i call you "the king of the wing"
i have used your roms and they are all best. as you mentioned we have a limited resources ... i would like to cook new roms but 1 thing that i donnot know where to start , many threads but as a noob to cook i need some clear directions ,if you can point me a good direction so i will be the soldier for you ,
thanks again for care Tribulattifather

Your the best !
I found your guide about cooking roms ! the best developer ever ! i will try to put my ideas and make a new rom but not as a challenge !!!!

Thank you; I really appreciate your patronage.
I can't wait to see what you guys come up with. I was thinking about getting another Wing again. They're pretty cheap now.
If you make a ROM i'll test it out.

Thats good
Hi
Thanks ! is there any visual emulator of herald so it will help us preventing sudden bricking the phone ?
2- if i wanna use spb shell only i have to put it on cabs folder ?
thanks again

Well, if you plan on making custom firmware for your device you should HardSPL your phone.
But you actually don't need custom firmware for SPB.
There is unfortunately no emulator for our phones, however.

Thanks again .cuz i thought there was some emulator for hd2 , so i will try to collect as many icons as i can ! thanks again

Okay. Cool.
Hey, also, I just bought another Wing
So i'm ready whenever you are