My T-mobile SDA don't have Wifi.. why? - HTC Tornado

Just arrived from USA a used phone Deutch T-mobile SDA with Windows 2003, unlocked with multilanguage support. Unlucky is without Wifi... Can I add it?
With ad upgrade to WM5 I will fix ?
thanks

no. and never ask stupid questions. if there is no wi-fi radio chip, you`ll never make it work by flashing any new rom. even if it was wm325.32525.3252 of the year 242325)

T-Mobile SDA with WM2003 is not HTC Tornado. And it really does not have wifi.

sp3dev said:
no. and never ask stupid questions. if there is no wi-fi radio chip, you`ll never make it work by flashing any new rom. even if it was wm325.32525.3252 of the year 242325)
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This doesn't seem like a stupid question if you take the time to think about it. My recall of the wiki says that the SDA is the Tornado, so it should have wifi.
If a person didn't know better and was sure they had a Tornado they might think it was crippled do to lack of software/drivers. So they would ask.
So we look at
[email protected] said:
T-Mobile SDA with WM2003 is not HTC Tornado. And it really does not have wifi.
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So my guess is that he's probably got an Amadeus. If you can't be helpful, you should just be quiet or go attend some remedial social skills class or something.
Crazynfunny:
Does your phone have a hump for an antenna on the top? Or is it smooth?
The T-Mobile SDA/Tornado pics I have seen usually show the hump. The HTC Amadeus doesn't seem to have a hump and looks exactly like the Qtek 8300 (also a Tornado)?
I guess the only real way to be sure what you've got is to look at the bootloader.
If it does indeed say it is a Tornado, look for a newer ROM that includes radio and everything, because it should have wifi. If it doesn't, it's not Tornado.

Trust me he has a Hurricane. I have the same and i found out the hard way.
Bricked e few SDA's until i figured out that it was a hurricane.
Yes i know i should have read better everywhere and i should have been more patient. ;-)
Exitao said:
This doesn't seem like a stupid question if you take the time to think about it. My recall of the wiki says that the SDA is the Tornado, so it should have wifi.
If a person didn't know better and was sure they had a Tornado they might think it was crippled do to lack of software/drivers. So they would ask.
So we look at
So my guess is that he's probably got an Amadeus. If you can't be helpful, you should just be quiet or go attend some remedial social skills class or something.
Crazynfunny:
Does your phone have a hump for an antenna on the top? Or is it smooth?
The T-Mobile SDA/Tornado pics I have seen usually show the hump. The HTC Amadeus doesn't seem to have a hump and looks exactly like the Qtek 8300 (also a Tornado)?
I guess the only real way to be sure what you've got is to look at the bootloader.
If it does indeed say it is a Tornado, look for a newer ROM that includes radio and everything, because it should have wifi. If it doesn't, it's not Tornado.
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Related

Radio Nightmare...need help.

I've been using Dutty Hybrid 2.5 with radio 1.65.14.06 for months and all was fine. yesterday, i got no reception all of the sudden. i would get 5 bars and hsdpa for 30 sec or so and then i loose the signal completely for a few minutes. i did a hard reset...no luck. so now i just flashed about 10 different 6.1 radios. i either get reception, OR the camera works. none do both. i decided it had to be a problem with the rom. so i just flashed an L26 diamond rom. same thing. the fact that the the camera and the web/phone each work (with different radios ) makes me think this cant be a hardware issue.
Any Ideas?
You'd think that. But I honestly thing you have a Hardware issue. Due to the spontaneity of the first time this problem happened.
hmmm...
if it is a hardware problem...i guess i'll probably be going without the camera (its pretty weak anyways). still, it seems very strange that i could get everything working separately, although i dont fully understand the connection between the radio and the camera. this stinks. i'm also assuming that because i've flashed roms my warranty is void. does anyone have any other ideas as to what this might be?
JimmyMcGee is our expert in the discussion but i also favour your theory that its not a hardware issue because you are confirming that Phone or Camera work well using different radios and one of them get knocked under at the time... yeah
i am suspecting that you are using wrong radio for your roms look here
try official rom and how will kaiser react to it
if not revert stocked rom and stocked spl and Warranty will be restored check this
i had the same problem with one of Dutty's ROM last week. even flashed back to stock and had the same problem. i ended up getting a new phone.
jekjpopulous said:
I've been using Dutty Hybrid 2.5 with radio 1.65.14.06 for months and all was fine. yesterday, i got no reception all of the sudden. i would get 5 bars and hsdpa for 30 sec or so and then i loose the signal completely for a few minutes. i did a hard reset...no luck. so now i just flashed about 10 different 6.1 radios. i either get reception, OR the camera works. none do both. i decided it had to be a problem with the rom. so i just flashed an L26 diamond rom. same thing. the fact that the the camera and the web/phone each work (with different radios ) makes me think this cant be a hardware issue.
Any Ideas?
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Before i venture an idea here, i believe we need some more information:
1) Did you mean Dutty's 4/29 Hybrid v2 w/ 1.65.14.06
2) The list of "10 different WM6.1 Radios" that you tried and which ones got reception/camera worked.
3) Did you try a hard reset already, because you didn't mention it?
Typically the issue w/ the camera not working also means that while you may be able to hear sound on your phone, typically the other party can't hear you when you have the wrong radio installed, just as a side note.
If flashing back to a stock rom, and hard reset do not work, then i would take Jimmy's advice and just do a warranty exchange, as it probably is hardware related.
@Jimmy - did you hear that? "JimmyMcgee is our expert" nice to see someone showing you the proper respect
Serviced mine once due to this exact same thing.
One last thing you can try, go under band and put the first drop down menu to GSM.
If this doesn't help, you will have to service it.
It's some part that is made of lead that is veeeeeery cheap really
It get a little bent and they will straight it for you.
Happened twice with me, I eneded up changing the main board which was much better.
Then after 2 months of normal use and no problems, a guy wanted to buy it and he did.
Got myself a new one.
Don't worry if you are in warranty.
Do not forget to flash back the original ROM then Radio then SPL.
Oh, and Relock security if you unlocked it
Good luck
I would also venture that the Radio is not FULLY working, just partly, that's why sometimes the Calls work but no camera, and vice versa.
I'd say flash back to stock SPLs and Roms and Do a Warranty Exchange if you can.
Remember, You never flashed any ROMs.
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@Jimmy - did you hear that? "JimmyMcgee is our expert" nice to see someone showing you the proper respect
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I know, Finally.
JimmyMcGee said:
Remember, You never flash any ROMs.
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What ROMs
I really wish that Raphael forum would get this good support and attention
fireblade63 said:
What ROMs
I really wish that Raphael forum would get this good support and attention
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LOL I'd be happy to help, I just need some Donations to buy a Raphael.
fireblade63 said:
Serviced mine once due to this exact same thing.
One last thing you can try, go under band and put the first drop down menu to GSM.
If this doesn't help, you will have to service it.
It's some part that is made of lead that is veeeeeery cheap really
It get a little bent and they will straight it for you.
Happened twice with me, I eneded up changing the main board which was much better.
Then after 2 months of normal use and no problems, a guy wanted to buy it and he did.
Got myself a new one.
Don't worry if you are in warranty.
Do not forget to flash back the original ROM then Radio then SPL.
Oh, and Relock security if you unlocked it
Good luck
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Don't worry I am sure the will be a influx movement to the Raphael Forum once it's released in the US.
AllTheWay said:
Don't worry I am sure the will be a influx movement to the Raphael Forum once it's released in the US.
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Of course then everyone will be wishing for the good ole days when the forum wasn't so cluttered with noobs who aren't sure what they are doing.
AllTheWay said:
Don't worry I am sure the will be a influx movement to the Raphael Forum once it's released in the US.
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Awesome man
Hopefully all the supportive current/old kaiser members will in time join
fireblade63 said:
Awesome man
Hopefully all the supportive current/old kaiser members will in time join
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Well....that's if the Omnia doesn't come out first.
AllTheWay said:
Well....that's if the Omnia doesn't come out first.
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Well, I'm sure it is going to be a great device.
I loved my i750.
But, no hardware keyboard is a deal breaker for me:/
TP seems to be te one
Get both
fireblade63 said:
Well, I'm sure it is going to be a great device.
I loved my i750.
But, no hardware keyboard is a deal breaker for me:/
TP seems to be te one
Get both
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I like the way you think...maybe i can swap my tilt to someone for their upgrade...now that it's not broken lol

AT&T Fuze vs Unlocked Touch Pro

If there was already a discussion about this I'm sorry. Apparently I suck at using the search feature...
I've wanted this phone for what feels like forever and will be given this as an early Christmas present in the next week, due to the issues of my failing Tilt. I can't decide if I should get the AT&T Fuze (I have AT&T now) or an unlocked version of the Touch Pro. I know it's the "same" phone but I also know the software/features differ. I tried to compare the two in the HTC Wiki but I know I can get much more useful information here.
1. Which unit would you recommend and what would I be giving up/gaining from either? I know the unlocked wouldn't have the AT&T specific software, not sure if that's good or bad.
2. Does the Fuze have a "flash" for the camera? Also, which unit has the better camera? It seems that the TP has more features, but slightly less MP.
3. Do they both support A2DP?
4. Frequencies confuse me! Quad-band, tri-band... bottom line which unit is faster & do they both support 3G (American version)?
5. Am I able to get Hotmail directly on either the Fuze or TP? Or is there software that enables me to? I'm running one of Dutty's fabulous ROMs on my Tilt now and love that I'm able to get Hotmail!
Sorry if any of these questions seem stupid- I'm fairly new at this & every time I turn around the new technology is way over my head! Any input/opinions/answers are greatly appreciated in helping me make a decision. Thanks!
Everythink is almost identical between the two except that the Fuze doesn't have the front camera and ATT customized it the way they wanted. They both support A2DP and Windows Live will get you Hotmail.
ok wow.. theyre exactly the same; except for one important aspect; the touch pro wont work on at&t 3G. there are other small cosmetic differences, and a different keyboard layout. yes the software is different, but thats not an issue, as u can flash any rom u want. in conclusion, get the fuze if u want to US 3G. do a google search next time please, these questions have been answered multiple times
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Everythink is almost identical between the two except that the Fuze doesn't have the front camera and ATT customized it the way they wanted. They both support A2DP and Windows Live will get you Hotmail.
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Thanks for the info. I don't want to get my email via the web, which is why I asked. I want to be able to set it up the same way you can with yahoo or gmail.
Do you know if the Fuze has a "flash" for the camera. It isn't listed anywhere and I can't tell from any of the pictures.
kschultz44 said:
Thanks for the info. I don't want to get my email via the web, which is why I asked. I want to be able to set it up the same way you can with yahoo or gmail.
Do you know if the Fuze has a "flash" for the camera. It isn't listed anywhere and I can't tell from any of the pictures.
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Yes, it does have a flash.
omaralt said:
ok wow.. theyre exactly the same; except for one important aspect; the touch pro wont work on at&t 3G. there are other small cosmetic differences, and a different keyboard layout. yes the software is different, but thats not an issue, as u can flash any rom u want. in conclusion, get the fuze if u want to US 3G. do a google search next time please, these questions have been answered multiple times
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I was hoping to not have to flash a rom to my phone this time. I guess no one will ever make a phone I'll be completely happy with right out of the box!
The answer to the 3G question pretty much made my decision then...

Htc touch pro DEAD?

Hey guys I need your help. 5 minuts ago I tried to install a HaRD-spl and something went wrong. My Touch pro doesn't start anymore. Nothing works. Please help me!
I used this hard-spl http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=489108&postcount=1
What can I do to fix it?
yasinusta said:
Hey guys I need your help. 5 minuts ago I tried to install a HaRD-spl and something went wrong. My Touch pro doesn't start anymore. Nothing works. Please help me!
I used this hard-spl http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=489108&postcount=1
What can I do to fix it?
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You are on Verizon CDMA?
Bruce Inman said:
You are on Verizon CDMA?
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I don't know? I am a real noob. But I installed verizon CDMA and then it went wrong.
yasinusta said:
I don't know? I am a real noob. But I installed verizon CDMA and then it went wrong.
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Tell me you don't have a GSM device
Which version of the Touch Pro do you have (ATT, Verizon, etc.)?
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Tell me you don't have a GSM device
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Why? I think I have a GSM device. Because now it doesn't work .
But what is the problem? Can we fix it or not. I have still half year waranty.
And is I dont know which version. Its a dutch T272.
yasinusta said:
Why? I think I have a GSM device. Because now it doesn't work .
But what is the problem? Can we fix it or not. I have still half year waranty.
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I hate to hit you while you are down... but your own link has it near the top, as to why you don't want to use that rom for a GSM device.
"Important:
first, if you have GSM Touch Pro/Raphael (NOT CDMA, NOT SPRINT/VERIZON/ALLTEL/TELUS/BELL), this will brick your device.
to download a compatible hardspl package for gsm touch pro you can go to forum.xda-developers.com.
but if you have CDMA Touch Pro/Raphael, then you have to use this hardspl, not the one at xda-developers!!!"
It's probably not fixable, but if you have a warranty, use it. I wouldn't explain exactly what you were doing if they ask what happened, because in truth, you obviously don't really know.
katherine45 said:
I hate to hit you while you are down... but your own link has it near the top, as to why you don't want to use that rom for a GSM device.
"Important:
first, if you have GSM Touch Pro/Raphael (NOT CDMA, NOT SPRINT/VERIZON/ALLTEL/TELUS/BELL), this will brick your device.
to download a compatible hardspl package for gsm touch pro you can go to forum.xda-developers.com.
but if you have CDMA Touch Pro/Raphael, then you have to use this hardspl, not the one at xda-developers!!!"
It's probably not fixable, but if you have a warranty, use it. I wouldn't explain exactly what you were doing if they ask what happened, because in truth, you obviously don't really know.
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Oh oke I will use my warranty . But How can I know what my phone is? GSM or CDMA? Where can I find it out?
GSM is in use in Europe, USA, & majority of the world; CDMA in USA & few other countries. If you have a SIM card, it's always GSM.
pilgrim011 said:
GSM is in use in Europe, USA, & majority of the world; CDMA in USA & few other countries. If you have a SIM card, it's always GSM.
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Thank you all! I hope KPN can fix it. I can use my nokia 6300 again
Ya know, you're the second person this week who flashed that hard spl to a gsm phone (instant death, btw). I'm curious, did someone tell you to use that specific hard spl? It seems kind of weird that two people would do it so close together. I'm just wondering if someone out there posted some mis-information that's leading to this (the other poster was on a Dutch carrier, I think).
Edit: here is the other thread. It's weird, you're both on Dutch phones. I'm just wondering if there's a dutch board with a bad link.
Farmer Ted said:
Ya know, you're the second person this week who flashed that hard spl to a gsm phone (instant death, btw). I'm curious, did someone tell you to use that specific hard spl? It seems kind of weird that two people would do it so close together. I'm just wondering if someone out there posted some mis-information that's leading to this (the other poster was on a Dutch carrier, I think).
Edit: here is the other thread. It's weird, you're both on Dutch phones. I'm just wondering if there's a dutch board with a bad link.
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I think these guys are just too eager and are not taking the time to learn anything. I have had a few Noobs this week trying to jump right in and hosing up ther phones. A little reading would have saved them the grief.
Bruce Inman said:
I think these guys are just too eager and are not taking the time to learn anything. I have had a few Noobs this week trying to jump right in and hosing up ther phones. A little reading would have saved them the grief.
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I agree completely! I have seen quite a bit of this going on lately. You guys spend a ton of money on your devices at least take a little bit of time to perform some research before trying anything. I remember when I got my first ATT 8525 (hermes 100) and wanted to flash a ROM and I also remember that before I did I spent roughly 6-7 hours reading up on the device and everything that the XDA wiki had to offer before I even installed my first app.
climber1872000 said:
...I spent roughly 6-7 hours reading up on the device and everything that the XDA wiki had to offer before I even installed my first app.
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I've done more than that and haven't even made the decision to buy it yet. Being informed is always a good thing.

What Rapheal Phone do I have

Hi,
I am on a mission today, to upgrade my phone. Currently I have Windows Mobile 5.2.21812 and its very unstable.
I know nothing about flashing these, as I bought the phone from EBAY not knowing it had Windows Mobile 6.5 on it.
I notice reading in the forums, I need to know if its CDMA, or GSM etc ? How would I tell that please? Phone is HTC Touch Pro.
Many thanks.
Stevey G
steveyg said:
Hi,
I am on a mission today, to upgrade my phone. Currently I have Windows Mobile 5.2.21812 and its very unstable.
I know nothing about flashing these, as I bought the phone from EBAY not knowing it had Windows Mobile 6.5 on it.
I notice reading in the forums, I need to know if its CDMA, or GSM etc ? How would I tell that please? Phone is HTC Touch Pro.
Many thanks.
Stevey G
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If your phone has a SIM Card Slot then its a GSM Model. If it has no SIM Card then its CDMA.
Ohhhh I see Thank you ever so much.
Would this be the right ROM to use - just making sure, before I start to read all the instructions ..............
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
You didnt say what phone you have - so we cant tell!
If you have a GSM phone (sim card) then you want to start reading here If however you have a CDMA phone (no sim card) then here would be a good place to look
Beeble said:
You didnt say what phone you have - so we cant tell!
If you have a GSM phone (sim card) then you want to start reading here If however you have a CDMA phone (no sim card) then here would be a good place to look
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I did, if you read my first comment above, look at the end you will see HTC TOuch Pro
Anyway.........
I notice several things I don't understand - RADIO, UC Capable & SPL Version as found here....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_Cooked_WM6.5_ROMs
Could someone explain please?
Anyone able to assist ?
steveyg said:
Anyone able to assist ?
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Steveyg, Touch Pro's are CDMA too. No one wants to help you if you're going to brick your device. Are you GSM or CDMA? We will assist as much as possible, but help us by answering that simple question.
Ohhh I understand now
Mine is a phone with a SIM, thus GSM is that correct?
steveyg said:
Ohhh I understand now
Mine is a phone with a SIM, thus GSM is that correct?
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Yep, you should be good to go. Now,
steveyg said:
I notice several things I don't understand - RADIO, UC Capable & SPL Version as found here....
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...ked_WM6.5_ROMs
Could someone explain please?
Radio is comparable to something like your WiFi card in your laptop. Depending on your location, etc, some radios are better than others. They control your signal, GPS, WiFi, etc. The most used one that I've seen is 1.14.25.35
UC Capable is something you need when you start cooking. If you're new to the Raph, you probably don't need this info yet.
SPL is the most important. Since you bought your device pre-flashed with 6.5, is should be hardSPL. This helps prevent your device from becoming an expensive paperweight. Now, it helps, but doesn't guarantee. If you put your device into bootloader (hold vol-, hold power, and reset with stylus) your device at the top of your screen should say something like SPL-1.90.Olinex. This means it's hardSPL and you are able to flash custom ROMS, like the NRGZ28 ROM you linked to. As long as they are GSM you should be able to flash any ROM for the GSM Touch Pro.
These are the basics so just keep reading the wiki. I will answer any questions I can, so just shoot me a PM if needed
Hey, if you want to flash your Raphael, I'd recommend you read this
I did my first, regardint this thread, and actually worked, really simple if you ask me!
Some suggestions: Leave the radio, for first, just do a simple ROM flash, and after that if you find it nessescery you can do it later.
The only ROM I tried for my Raphael is TAEL's ROM, it's amazing compared to the stock ROMs!!! If you're intrested click on it in my signature!
I have the following ROM;-
r:- 1.11.25.01
g:-52.58.25.30u
d 5. phoenix
Do I have to revert to a OEM ROM? If so, where do I find those please?
Good news, I've been sucessfull Phoned imaged to TAEL Roms - very good.
Could of questions;-
1. Don't have the sat nav the other image had. Can't remember the name of it. but I used to use that quite alot. Does anyone know where I can download it from?
2. Used to have an application called FLASHLIGHT - great little app. Its a TOURCH application that used the FLASH Light. Really handy. Where can I download it please.
Many thanks.
Stevey G
1) are you talking about the garmin or tomtom gps software? or the one where you use the GPS to lock down a location (kinda like "dude where's my car?" app for the iphone)
search on the forums under software development subforum. it's called Torch.. that or NueLight.
Thanks I managed to find the torch light thing, but still can't find the sat nav. Not sure what the name was. It was really good though. Wasn't the tom tom navigator. Wish I made a note of it, as it was fully working version :-(
are you talking about the GPS navigation software? if so then it's either garmin (mobile XT) or tomtom
Hi,
Looking on my storage card Managed to find the name - AUTO MAPA. Tried to load it from the storage card, and it works. So I have copied the exe to the start menu, multimedia folder and it works great
Whats this GARMIN Mobile XT like then?
Since updating to TAEL Rom, my signal is very low and keeps disconnecting from the network.
Do I need to upgrade my RADIO then?
My version is;-
1.11.25.01
I found this one, would this work ?
http://www.4shared.com/file/133094257/1e1ce983/BlackStone_Radio_1172509.html
try testing other radio. I changed my radio to the new ATT official rom (not so new anymore but it was the latest updated ATT rom). Test it out for a few days each and map out what you think works best and keep to that.
One thing I noticed is that some radios will crash your phone after a call.. they may give you better signals, but it will crash your phone, so be aware of that.
Hi,
Thanks for the message. Does it matter that I am on TMOBILE and not ATT ?

Switch Fuze to CDMA?

Ok, this may be a dumb question but I found evidence of this as a possibility elsewhere and wanted someone to clear this up for me. I have an AT&T Fuze. We are looking at switching to the Sprint network. Will I need to get a new phone, or is there a radio flash that can be used to make the change?
Forgive my newbie question. I'm still learning!
Thanks!
nope sorry you can not use a gsm phone on a cdma network.
cant: this is in hardware, not software
Well that was easy enough.
Next, if I purchase a used, unlocked Verizon phone, will I be able to use it with Sprint?
Thanks!
my fze shows a cdma option why is that?
pratthinds said:
Well that was easy enough.
Next, if I purchase a used, unlocked Verizon phone, will I be able to use it with Sprint?
Thanks!
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No, you will not.. Sprint will not activate any phone they did not sell originally (not model of phone, but physical phone itself)... If it was not originally a Sprint phone that they do not have a record of, it can not be activated EVER on the sprint network.. They are the biggest "jerks" about that...
But on the good news, is just look for a Sprint HTC Touch Pro... it has TWICE the ram that the Verizion TP version has... And there are TONS of them all the time on craigslist... many in excellent condition... My only advice would be is, if you are buying any cellphone on craigslist, agree to only buy it if then will go WITH YOU (or meet you) at a Sprint Retail store, and have the Customer Service guy verify that the phone is not reported lost or stolen... If it is reported lost or stolen by whoever had it registered most recently, you will never be able to activate it on Sprint either...This way protects you in not only do you knwo for sure it is a legit phone, it will stop some seedy people from trying to rob you or anything...
If you go this route, I highly reccoment the NSFAN roms... They are great, well put together roms... They sort of remind me of the Energy roms on the Fuze....
Anyways, hope I was some help!
Thanks, Teej!
I've been watching items on Ebay. That's where I got my Fuze.
Does the Tael ROM work for the Sprint Touch Pro? I have had good luck with it and like the config. What do you like about the NSFAN ROM?
pratthinds said:
Thanks, Teej!
I've been watching items on Ebay. That's where I got my Fuze.
Does the Tael ROM work for the Sprint Touch Pro? I have had good luck with it and like the config. What do you like about the NSFAN ROM?
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I have never used the Tael Rom, so I can't comment on that one.. buut the NSFAN one is great... I installed the exact same rom on both a US Cellular as well as a Sprint version of the Touch Pro and both "just worked" right out of the box... it is very finger friendly... has on all the little features and tweaks to a settings liek I would have them set.. The programs that come with it are very useful.. It looks good... and runs pretty quickly it seems as well... I have installed tomTom on it, and it also just "worked" out of the box without any special GPS configuration... and it locks on in like 30 seconds! We also have a fuze, and that one seems to takes 3 or 4 min, both from a cold start, started at the same time in the same car... (we compaired them many times)... Batterys seems to last about 2 days on typical use... It also seems to be very stable....
Hope I have helped....

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