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Club i-Mate acknowledges JAM Upgrade 1.06 issues

Part of a long chat with Brian:
Wiz> Ah, well, anyway, since the version they have at XDA-Developers still has bluetooth problems, I was wondering whether that was a fake update
Brian> NO it wosent..
Wiz> it's an official one???
Willem> In that case, I should warn you, there are problems in that 1.06 ROM
Wiz> it says: bluetooth hardware not found
Wiz> on a regular basis
Wiz> do you know of problems in 1.06?
Brian> We will be releasing the new version and the new version will fix all the issue.
Wiz> when will it be released?
Brian> Day after tomorrow.
Wiz> which version number will it have?
Brian> As of now, we dont have the proper information regarding the version.
Brian> i would advice you to keep a regular check on our website for the latest news and updates.
Wiz> ok, thanks
Wiz> I will post this on XDA-Devs and on our own site
Brian> Your Welcome.
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it is very interested.
please can you ask to brian or other stuff of club i-mate , when is avaiable the new version rom of spanish??? I am waiting the 1.06 or the last.
thanks wiz.

Thanks for the info, Wiz.

THX WIZ.. PLS KEEP US POSTING...

Wiz> when will it be released?
Brian> Day after tomorrow.
I don`t understand what Brian said?...it means sometimes in the future?... :roll:
Regards,
Primoz
p.s. Thx for this Wiz!

The post was march 7th, so the day after tormorrow is the day after March 8th, so march 9th we should see the update arriving.

Koksie said:
The post was march 7th, so the day after tormorrow is the day after March 8th, so march 9th we should see the update arriving.
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OK thx for the expanation...I tought that it was a phrase with different meaning... :roll:
Let hope it will be done for tomorrow!
Regards,
Primoz

i think they're just lying and don't know what they're talking about... if they were to release a new rom other than the current one why would they post this rom to start with!!?!! or maybe they just stole qtek's rom and post it as their own.!!! this is getting really annoying.
this will be my last ppc based phone...

You're a bit suspicious but you're right, it's strange...

How could they ever stole Qtek's ROM? The cab files in imate's rom are tottaly different versions! Just think that behind the basic ROM is HTC and not Qtek or Imate! And as for the pocketpc based phones could you give me a better option that can provide me with all that software that exists for the Microsoft platform and works without any problems and most of all is tottaly compatible with outlook and M$ office? I would be glad to buy such a device! :twisted:
At least lets just wait and give them a chance to prove theirselfs wrong first and then shoot them on the head! :lol: They said they will release it tommorow, personally I will give them a couple of days more and then see what happens! On the past imate used to support their devices with the best and fastest ROMs, so just give them a chance! Even with their 1.06 ROM I am happy with my MDA Compact! It works almost like a dream and the only problem is the BT no device problem and that is far more stable than Qtek's ROM :wink:

I just learned from a Qtek representative that Qtek is actually HTC's own brand. So buying a Qtek device would be like buying a device with a Sony Ericsson or Nokia brand instead of an operator brand like O2 or Vodafone.

katsj,
you are right, but the problem is, i have tried almost all brands and i have never had a problem with the quality of the call... with this jam when someone calls i can hardly understand what they are saying!! i mean this is the first phone that made me lose friends because i can't hear them good... i have tried the 1.5 radio it fixed some problems but now the sound of the earpiece is very low resulting in losing the rest of my friends -lol- and there are other problems with the phone such as the cam but if they fix the sound that is the most important.....
btw sonyericsson makes the best phones I’m waiting for their next Pxxx series

The day after tomorrow is here...and no ROM update out from I-mate... :roll:
Regards,
Primoz

hee hee. The day after tomorrow is still two days away guys!

hshortt said:
hee hee. The day after tomorrow is still two days away guys!
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Heh U R wright man! :wink:
Regards,
Primoz

PapaDocta said:
katsj,
you are right, but the problem is, i have tried almost all brands and i have never had a problem with the quality of the call... with this jam when someone calls i can hardly understand what they are saying!! i mean this is the first phone that made me lose friends because i can't hear them good... i have tried the 1.5 radio it fixed some problems but now the sound of the earpiece is very low resulting in losing the rest of my friends -lol- and there are other problems with the phone such as the cam but if they fix the sound that is the most important.....
btw sonyericsson makes the best phones I’m waiting for their next Pxxx series
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On the sound issue I am with you! And hear what happened to me! I used to have my MDA Compact (German) flashed with imate's 1.03 ROM the sound on the internal speaker was good when I was talking to someone on the phone! Then I flashed Radio 1.05 and 1.06 from Qtek that made my internal speaker not working while its sound was low and was coming and go all the time, simply it was unusable! The good thing for me is that 99,9% of my calls I answer them by my BT handsfree so it was no problem for me! The funny thing is that when I flashed my MDA Compact with imate's ROM the sound come back again on the speaker and its great since then! I really don't know what really happened but HTC should do something soon for this issue since IT IS the most annoying problem on JAM. As for Sony Ericsson they definately have the best sound quality on their phones! But they dont have a Microsoft operating system! I was a fanatic PXXX user but when I first used a Toshiba e800 and then a Qtek2020 I really can't go back to SE! I only wish SE will make a Microsoft based smartphone and I am sure the competition will go home that same day!

There was removed the WWE version of ROM 1.06 from the I-mate club site...they says it will be available tomorrow...it could be possible they are making some patches...or am I just wondering... :roll:
Regards,
Primoz

katsj,
i read an article a while ago, that microsoft are to talk to nokia about a future collaboration bwtween them and sonyericsson with nokia ... so the dream might come true
here is a quote
"Nokia has announced partnership with Microsoft in a field of mobile music: a possibility of synchronization with Windows Media Player 10, support for digital rights control and online download of compositions.
Sony Ericsson has announced a similar partnership with Nokia. Collaborating with Sony Group the company will release musical mobile phones under a well-known Walkman brand. Let's remind Motorola concluded a treaty with Apple as long as in summer. "

Papadocta,
I will never buy a Nokia in my life! Their service here in Greece is the most awful service worldwide! And after Nokia 6310 they never managed to make a reliable phone after that model! More than that my brother in law has the local Sonyericsson service point and from what I hear from him neither Nokia nor Sonyericsson are planning to release a Microsoft operating system based phone! Especially Nokia who is the basic share holder of symbian would be like suiciding by releasing a M$ phone! They only plan to make some software parts compatible with Microsoft as the music playing you mentioned above. Maybe MAYBE Sonyericsson would do something but that seems to be far far away at the moment! I hope MDA IV will be a good device and that HTC will show its maturity after being in the market for a long time now by that model! So my expectations for MDA IV are very high! Lets see if HTC will meet those expectations this time! If they only manage to get the 2005 version of Windows mobile in MDA IV!!!!!!! :roll:

UPDATE (chat with Brian again):
Welcome Wiz, please wait while we get you in contact with one of our club advisors...
You're now talking to Brian
Brian> Welcome to club i-mate support. My name is Brian, how can I help you today?
Wiz> Hey Brian ..
Brian> Hi Wiz..
Wiz> I had a chat with you I blieve on Monday
Wiz> about possible issues with the new 1.06 rom
Wiz> you mentioned a new rom would be posted "day after tomorrow"
Wiz> which was yesterday
Wiz> So I was curious if you would have new information for me
Brian> Yes we had released the new ROM version yesterday...
Wiz> ok, does it fix bluetooth?
Brian> But iam sorry to say we removed the ROM version again from our website as it was having some issue..
Wiz> again?
Wiz> only WWE version?
Brian> We will be releasing it on saturday again on our website.
Wiz> or does the UK version have the same problem?
Wiz> you realise that the faulty rom still is available on your FTP server?
Wiz> It still is available in the Support directory
Wiz> ma_cdlsku1_10600_110_10500_ship.exe
Brian> I would advice you to wait till saturday and then you upgrade the ROM.
Wiz> Of course I will wait
Wiz> but I just want to know what to tell the forum users of our Dutch PocketPC CLub website
Wiz> But thanks, I will publish this information for our JAM users
Wiz> I will look out for the new version
Brian> ok
Wiz> Thanks
Wiz> Bye
Brian> Your Welcome.
Brian> Bye!

WM5 for Magician - new hope?

i want to say that there is a man in syria who is Specialist in PDA
he said he is able to install WIN 5.0 to any jam and he ill give you a Guarantee for it but he request 50$ for that what do you think
it is a new hope

hope
Maybe he's a real good "master"in wm, and can istall wm5, but remember, his rom couldn't be be good for your Magician... Other solution, you can buy cd with eten m500 upgrade for 50 Euro. This CD contains ActivSync 4.1, upgrade from wm2003se to wm2005, and other things that you need to syncronize your MDA.

Re: hope
lcm86 said:
Maybe he's a real good "master"in wm, and can istall wm5, but remember, his rom couldn't be be good for your Magician... Other solution, you can buy cd with eten m500 upgrade for 50 Euro. This CD contains ActivSync 4.1, upgrade from wm2003se to wm2005, and other things that you need to syncronize your MDA.
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so from where can i buy this CD , and for sure there is WIN5.0 for jam
or what why all of the people are saying there is no WIN5.0 for JAM
i talked with I-MATe's support staff and they told me to wait for the time being

And HOW, pray tell, would you be able to modify the E-ten ROM image to be able to run on an HTC Magician?

m500
and how long they said you need to wait?
search here for stores
http://www.etencorp.com/presscenter/press.php?pid=88&tid=0

And HOW, pray tell, would you be able to modify the E-ten ROM image to be able to run on an HTC Magician?

I would bet he is a crook. If there is of any way that he is able to run WM5 on Magician, you would have heard it in the best forum of all.. HERE! Of all the experts here agree there isn't an chance of getting WM5 running on Magician, I won't bet $50 on it.
Anyway, as for the Eten version, it won't work on Magician too. I mean, there are tons of WM2K to WM5 upgrades for other units, and if the modifications were to be so simple, I bet these people would have modify it for Magician.

fehmixp said:
i want to say that there is a man in syria who is Specialist in PDA
he said he is able to install WIN 5.0 to any jam and he ill give you a Guarantee for it but he request 50$ for that what do you think
it is a new hope
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What this is ... is the quickest way to upgrade your Magician to a paper-weight. :!:
Here's why there's no WM5 for the Magician (and also why there are some unofficial WM5 releases for devices such as the Blue Angel) http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/10/06/477999.aspx

There is a posibility
Hi guys
i called with a german firm to ask how does a upgrade from 64 to 128 Mb costs also the question if it is possible run wm2005 after this upgrade they said to me that there is a posibilty, but it runs very very very slow
so in the i didn't made this upgrade but also wm2005 is not fully developed so let's see what comes

Prophet may get a official WM6 upgrade?

Please check the info from pocketpcthoughts.com ( http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=431833&sid=8677d091b08c0302e3ced2b69c56c152),
".................I asked Jason Gordon, Senior Manager of Communications for HTC America, for an official response to this, and he sent me this:
"HTC and its carrier partners will have Windows Mobile 6 upgrades available for a variety of recently released devices. We will continue to work with these partners to provide additional upgrades based on market need."
No further details, but it seems obvious that HTC will have some upgrades to Windows Mobile 6 coming out. Good news for all of us! "
Will our loved prophet be included in their upgrade list? Any more infomation?
What do you guys think?

dont think imate will release one, they kind of stop supporting htc product.
maybe only dopod and HTC brand will have a little chance to uprade to wm6. let's pray.

uccoffee said:
dont think imate will release one, they kind of stop supporting htc product.
maybe only dopod and HTC brand will have a little chance to uprade to wm6. let's pray.
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Since HTC has let us know that it will not roll out WM6.0 ROM's for currently devices running 5.0. I think HTC doens't agree with "Let's pray" but wants to hear you say: "Let's pay..".
I have heard that the Treo 750 is going to get an upgrade to WM6.0. But this is a Palm device, and not a device comming from HTC.

ok
So let's keep on make the wm6 roms dat we have more stable and secure...

He said it all!
"HTC and its carrier partners will have Windows Mobile 6 upgrades available for a variety of recently released devices"
The Prophet has been discontinued already!!!
By new I guess he meant devices that came out on the last couple of months or so...

yes, even if it doesnt come out specifically for the s200, there are other ti omap 200mhz devices out there like the s200 that have just come out. correct me if im not mistaken, but it would then be easier to dump a custom rom for the prophet then?

IMate Store selling WM6 jasjar?

I was looking for a good leather case for my jasjar and ran across this at the imate store http://www.imatephonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=IMATE_JASJAR&ref=adwords its the jasjar for sale with windows mobile 6 does that mean we are close to a final

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!
If it is not a mistake my next PDA WILL BE I-MATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO MORE QTEK/HTC!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTH! I guess the coder/designer of that site has committed an error.
But, I would loved to be proven wrong
edit: interestingly, he didn't commit similar error to other imate products(kjam, jasjam etc). Hmmm
edit2: more interestingly, the string(lol,doing lot of programming these days) "windows mobile 6" is written in red

kdskamal said:
edit2: more interestingly, the string(lol,doing lot of programming these days) "windows mobile 6" is written in red
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Yeah.. AND LOOK AT THE PRICE....... It's a little bit high, isn't it???

DJ Palmis said:
Yeah.. AND LOOK AT THE PRICE....... It's a little bit high, isn't it???
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Yes, you are right. Infact, it is priced higher that the comparitively newer JasJam($999). JasJar is priced at $1049 :\ Indeed odd.
*fingers crossed*

wow, this is cool information. I-mate prepared a official WM6 ROM for Universal.

kdskamal said:
*fingers crossed*
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*all-my-body crossed* LOL

jerrry said:
wow, this is cool information. I-mate prepared a official WM6 ROM for Universal.
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Well, IMHO, all vendors should give WM6 upgrade to their WM5 devices since MS is not charging anything from them to do the upgradation.
Just saw somewhere on the web that the HP has announced to give their hx2xxx owners free WM6 upgrade. Now, thats too cool

I was thinking about the selling of my Qtek 9000, because Im looking for someting new (my favourite is Imate Ultimate 7150), but the official WM6 upgrade is good reason why still stay with Universal

This is a MIRACLE!!!
http://www.imatephonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=IMATE_JASJAR&ref=adwords#review
i-mate JasJar Review
NOW WITH Windows Mobile 6.0!
The i-mate Jas Jar is your mini-PC-style PDA Phone with 3G and Wi-Fi ® connectivity packed into a stylish design. Cutting edge 3G technology combined with Microsoft ® Windows Mobile ® 6.0 software will keep you connected and up to date wherever you are with a fast 3G experience. Never miss an important appointment or document again.
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JasJar , Qtek, Dpod.. the same things. If there is JasJar WM6 ROM, we can upload it on Qtek as well

not happening
most likely they are flashing it with roms taken from here....
why would imate want to do this???
imate is supposed to have the worst after-sales service
and with the ultimate line (7150) being announced they have even less motivation

fallenczar said:
not happening
most likely they are flashing it with roms taken from here....
why would imate want to do this???
imate is supposed to have the worst after-sales service
and with the ultimate line (7150) being announced they have even less motivation
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or ... maybe they are trying to convince the people that they changed !

afaik, HTC dont support the Universal with WM6, meaning that carriers can't either.
Most likely some n00b was updating the website and suck the wm6 stuff on jasJAR Rather than jasJAM (Which IS getting WM6, and yet it isnt mentioned here: http://www.imatephonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=IMATE_JASJAM)
coincidence?

decebal said:
or ... maybe they are trying to convince the people that they changed !
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Well, may be imate wants to sell the ones still left in the stock. Also, since MS didnt take any money for the upgrade to WM6, may be one of the imate rom makers made a ROM for JasJar to attract the people to buy it

Midget_1990 said:
afaik, HTC dont support the Universal with WM6, meaning that carriers can't either.
Most likely some n00b was updating the website and suck the wm6 stuff on jasJAR Rather than jasJAM (Which IS getting WM6, and yet it isnt mentioned here: http://www.imatephonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=IMATE_JASJAM)
coincidence?
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But, imate has not yet announced to offer WM6 upgrade, unlike htc/dopod :\
edit: also, since imate has divorced htc from quite a long time, jasjam won't be getting any upgrade. afaik, jasjam is the only device which could have got the upgraded to wm6 because it was manf by htc. After jasjam, they came with the non-htc products

BREAKING NEWS - CONFIRMED WM6 x JASJAR
In one minute the Imate support gave me THIS answer:
B"H
It is!
WM6.0 Crossbow!
-Dovid
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:44 PM
To: INFO REQUEST
Subject: INFO REQUEST: i-mate JasJar
can you tell me if the WM6 version is real ?
thanks
NAME: decebal

decebal said:
In one minute the Imate support gave me THIS answer:
B"H
It is!
WM6.0 Crossbow!
-Dovid
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Wow! great news. Did you ask them when are they going to release it?
*cannot wait*

kdskamal said:
Wow! great news. Did you ask them when are they going to release it?
*cannot wait*
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i think he means imatephone store not imate
which means nothing...
there were tons of jasjars on ebay with wm6 rom

O...my god, I can't wait...

Buying PPC - Suggestions needed

Hi
Im currently using HTC Magician but im lookin to buy a better second-hand ppc (i-e which can support later versions of WM).
Wizard and Prophet are the 2 PPCs im considering at the moment
I need your suggestions as to which PPC I should go for (keeping in view the financial constraint) and some points in favour of your suggestion.
Im looking forward to your suggestions
Regards
Bilal

sulehri said:
Hi
Im currently using HTC Magician but im lookin to buy a better second-hand ppc (i-e which can support later versions of WM).
Wizard and Prophet are the 2 PPCs im considering at the moment
I need your suggestions as to which PPC I should go for (keeping in view the financial constraint) and some points in favour of your suggestion.
Im looking forward to your suggestions
Regards
Bilal
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Wow, you really are going for some older hardware there! In fact, it may be difficult to find new Wizards and Prophets!
If you want to save money, you are probably going to be better off at this point going with a Hermes or a Kaiser. I can personally recommend the Hermes as I have had one, but I know lots of Kaiser owners out there who love their machines too. Both are well-rounded machines with loads of functionality. I haven't looked lately, but I bet you could get a new Hermes for around US$300 if you shopped around a little. Kaisers will probably be a bit more.
If you are looking for something smaller and don't need the keyboard, you can probably find a good deal on an Elf.
All three of these models were very popular, but have pretty much run their course. No doubt some merchants who have over-bought these models are trying to get rid of them before they become completely obsolete.

Well that depends on what are your needs form a PPC
Look here and compare: http://pdadb.net/

been a wizard users for the past 3 months, have to say its a nice phone, havent tried the Prophet (yet )
as said above, try to compare both of the phones
edit : saw that ur from pakistan , nice to see ya, im from karachi though..but currently in Bahrain

I just upgraded from a Prodigy/Wizard to a Kaiser/TyTN II. It's a huge step up. I'd recommend a Hermes/TyTN or a Kaiser/TyTN II over a Prodigy/Wizard.
I tried several WM 6.1 ROMs on my Wizard, but development on each halted.

ather90 said:
been a wizard users for the past 3 months, have to say its a nice phone, havent tried the Prophet (yet )
as said above, try to compare both of the phones
edit : saw that ur from pakistan , nice to see ya, im from karachi though..but currently in Bahrain
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Aoa Ather bro
Atlast Ive found another Pakisatni here
Guzashta Eid Mubarak

wsalam to you too , and eid mubarak to you too

larsuck said:
Wow, you really are going for some older hardware there! In fact, it may be difficult to find new Wizards and Prophets!
If you want to save money, you are probably going to be better off at this point going with a Hermes or a Kaiser. I can personally recommend the Hermes as I have had one, but I know lots of Kaiser owners out there who love their machines too. Both are well-rounded machines with loads of functionality. I haven't looked lately, but I bet you could get a new Hermes for around US$300 if you shopped around a little. Kaisers will probably be a bit more.
If you are looking for something smaller and don't need the keyboard, you can probably find a good deal on an Elf.
All three of these models were very popular, but have pretty much run their course. No doubt some merchants who have over-bought these models are trying to get rid of them before they become completely obsolete.
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Thankyou for the reply
I live in Pakistan, there are alot of Wizards available and I can get a second-hand wizard in good condition for $90-100. Ive checked on Hermes, It is available for almost $270-290 (second-hand)
Im giving prices as I want to get maximum out of my savings (same old problem with students!)
I tried e-bay but no one out there seem to ship it to my country

ather90 said:
wsalam to you too , and eid mubarak to you too
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Bhai What about K-Jam
Us pay windows ka kaunsa version chala rahay hain aap?

feanor512 said:
I just upgraded from a Prodigy/Wizard to a Kaiser/TyTN II. It's a huge step up. I'd recommend a Hermes/TyTN or a Kaiser/TyTN II over a Prodigy/Wizard.
I tried several WM 6.1 ROMs on my Wizard, but development on each halted.
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SO which ppc supports WM 6.1 without any problem?
i-e which can be upgraded to WM 6.1?

i got my kaiser for £190

sulehri said:
Bhai What about K-Jam
Us pay windows ka kaunsa version chala rahay hain aap?
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im using WM6.1 on it

ather90 said:
im using WM6.1 on it
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Kaisi chal rahee hai bhai?
yahin se download ki hai?

yep, idhar se hi..lekin mein ek ROM Cooker bhi hun, is liye meine apni khud bani hai..abhi tak upload nahi ki hai magar inshallah baad mein krunga
ye WM6.1 ka section ha, wizard ke liye : http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=356
English Translation :
yep downloaded from here, as im a rom cooker, im using my own cooked rom, i havent uploaded it yet but i will later..here is a link to WM6.1 section for wizard :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=356
Cheers

k thanks (ill request you to give ur ROM when I finally get my new (second-hand ) ppc)
i better reply in english
accepted ur friend request. very kind of you for sendin that
now tell me your final view ather bro
here are my options
- K.Jam
- Jamin
- Jama
Kjam costs around Rs. 6500-7500, Jama goes around Rs. 8000-9000 and Jamin can cost around Rs. 9000-10000
Which one should I get?

sulehri said:
SO which ppc supports WM 6.1 without any problem?
i-e which can be upgraded to WM 6.1?
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The Kaiser/TyTN II is the only one with an official WM 6.1 upgrade. Both the Prodigy/Wizard and the Hermes/TyTN have unofficial WM 6.1 ROMs (made by the cookers here at XDA). Most of the unofficial WM 6.1 ROMs for the Wizard have been abandoned by their cookers.

the kjam is the Wizard, the Jamin is the Prophet
Most of the unofficial WM 6.1 ROMs for the Wizard have been abandoned by their cookers.
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i would angree with that, have you taken a look in the wizards section?, a new ROM releases every day, esp the TouchHD CRS Series

thats why im taking ur expert opinion that which ppc should I buy
just weigh all the pros and cons and gimme a suggestion - ill go for it!

i have a hermes with t-mobile 6.1 ROM. Its a very good allrounder. Decent performance.
I just upgraded to a Kaiser and ams o far very impressed. Big step up in general performance over the hermes. A lot more responsive.
But a good deal more expensive too.
if you can stretcht to a Kaiser i'd get that. otherwise the Hermes is a very capable device.

ELFin
This week a pal bought a Mint ELFin for US$350.00 shipping included via Ebay. I've owned many smartphone and some touch phones...as I keep saying...the EFLin to today is my favorite. Why? Small, with a pcm keyboard, Manila, and a few other goodies, it will give a run to any phone out there on the market.
Paul