Hey,
i have the following prob, hopefully someone has a clue cause its starting to drive me nuts since im not able to find a solution.
i can connect bluetooth, i can sync and i can have that connection for hours, but as soon as i want to use internet or for example msn messenger that the connection just quits.
i have the following setup: magacian with toshiba stack on my mda and the normal windows xp2 drivers on my desktop. i already tried the normal bt drivers on my mda, but they also quit after using internet.
strange thing is, or maybe not, that i can use internet and other programs when i am on usb, then the connections doesnt quit.
anyone one has a clue?
thanks in advance!
gringo
Hi!
I know this is a question is on the edge of what this forum and web-site is about, but let me explain my problem and see if anyone have any tips
I work with PDAs of all types, and the problem is not related to brand, if it is Windows Mobile 5 or 6 (Modem Link vs Internet Sharing, even tested Modem Link on a WM6 device since I get pre-samples) or tele-operator.
At home I haven't got Internet via ADSL/Broadband - I have to use a PDA as modem to surf on the internet. I have one hotmail-account and one Yahoo-account. When I try to login, it seems to login - shows contacts briefly - loads the icons in the MSN application (MSN Windows Live Messenger 8.1) - and the disconnects - starts to reconnect, and the same happens again.
I use Activesync 4.5, but have used 4.2 which I "trust" (if that is possible) more. Have disabled "Allow USB Connections". I just thought of using USB Killer to force serial communication - I will get back to the result of this..
I have installed AVG Anti-virus (free personal edition), Spyware Doctor and SpyBot. Tried to disable these and make changes to internal Windows Firewall. Without success..
At work my PC is connected to internet via ADSL and everything works, well okay. Sometimes MSN freezes, but no login problems. I have a theory about it has something to do with the IP the PDA gets from the tele-network, but tried the APN for public IP-address..no success.
Have anyone experienced problems like me when using PDA as modem ? As I use MSN for my job I would be very happy to get tips!
a bit confusing "At work my PC is connected to internet via ADSL and everything works, well okay. "
is this pda related? are you saying that your normal pc with a normal network is ok with msn?
or are you connecting your pda to that pc as well
are you using activesync to try to get your pda to connect to your pc at homes network or other other way around?
your phone isp can block all ports they want which could result in msn issues of cause then it would be both on the pda and the pc
Knocksock said:
Hi!
I know this is a question is on the edge of what this forum and web-site is about, but let me explain my problem and see if anyone have any tips
I work with PDAs of all types, and the problem is not related to brand, if it is Windows Mobile 5 or 6 (Modem Link vs Internet Sharing, even tested Modem Link on a WM6 device since I get pre-samples) or tele-operator.
At home I haven't got Internet via ADSL/Broadband - I have to use a PDA as modem to surf on the internet. I have one hotmail-account and one Yahoo-account. When I try to login, it seems to login - shows contacts briefly - loads the icons in the MSN application (MSN Windows Live Messenger 8.1) - and the disconnects - starts to reconnect, and the same happens again.
I use Activesync 4.5, but have used 4.2 which I "trust" (if that is possible) more. Have disabled "Allow USB Connections". I just thought of using USB Killer to force serial communication - I will get back to the result of this..
I have installed AVG Anti-virus (free personal edition), Spyware Doctor and SpyBot. Tried to disable these and make changes to internal Windows Firewall. Without success..
At work my PC is connected to internet via ADSL and everything works, well okay. Sometimes MSN freezes, but no login problems. I have a theory about it has something to do with the IP the PDA gets from the tele-network, but tried the APN for public IP-address..no success.
Have anyone experienced problems like me when using PDA as modem ? As I use MSN for my job I would be very happy to get tips!
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when you try to use internet sharing on your ppc at home, are you able to browse web sites/read mail on the home pc ?
I am using a laptop at work, which I bring with me back home.
At work I connect to internet via ADSL, not using PDA there. MSN have no (not login problems) problems at work.
At home I usually disable "Allow USB Connections" in Activesync, connect PDA to laptop via USB cable, wait a bit - then use Internet Sharing to connect via the GPRS connection I have configured on the PDA.
It works just fine to surf, send e-mails, etc. But, when I start MSN on laptop - it starts the handshake-process, it seems to login - loads the sidebar icons in MSN and "the connection is lost" (msn) - I can still surf on the internet. MSN keeps reconnecting.. login..closes the connection. etc. at the end..after minutes or many hours it will log me in.
I will try some brand new devices tonight as modem. By the way, switching from RNDIS communication to Serial - between laptop and PDA didn't help.
Any help appreciated!
Small update..
Yesterday I tried a brand new unknown unofficial WM6 device as modem. Configured GPRS, used Internet Sharing and it logged on to msn without any trouble. I will test it more before I come to any conclution if this just was one-time-luck or..
Hi Guys,
complete newby, know-nothing-boy here.
Got my xda orbit and just trying to get it all set up the way I want it to work. this is not easy given that I am a complete technophobe so everything's a massive learning curve.....
.....so, I got my orbit 2 connected to my works pc through Active sync and it talks to the calendar and everything appears to be fine and I've set up a bluetooth connection and can beam a file from my laptop to the phone. However, I cannot get my calendar/emails to up-date through bluetooth and neither me nor our IT guy can figure out why not!!!!
Can any guru on here help please.
Thanks,
David
Have you downloaded the new Mobile Device Center? Is your Laptop running XP or Vista? When I last sync'd with an XP machine via bluetooth, I could not sync contacts etc either, only worked with Vista for me.
namaste74 said:
Have you downloaded the new Mobile Device Center? Is your Laptop running XP or Vista? When I last sync'd with an XP machine via bluetooth, I could not sync contacts etc either, only worked with Vista for me.
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I'm on XP and I have not downloaded the new mobile device centre. where should I ge tit from??
Thanks,
David
Is this possible or is it a severe problem???
Does windows mobile centre only work with vista????
Cheers,
David
Hi David,
1. You have to pair your Touch with XP
2. Create a incoming port.
3. select the incoming port in active sync for connection
4. start activesync on touch
if you need further info please use the search function.
Best Regards
Yoshi
david_miller70 said:
Is this possible or is it a severe problem???
Does windows mobile centre only work with vista????
Cheers,
David
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Windows mobile device center works only with Vista
David,
I feel for you sir.
I've been a PDA / Pocket PC user for a LONG time. I've used a Kyocera 6035 (Palm-based Cell/PDA), Sprint 6601, Sprint 6700, AT&T 8525, and even a BlackJack II. So I've used Windows XP with a Pocket PC LOTS of times, but *I* had trouble while in Chicago this week.
A co-worker lent me his Sony VGX-UX280 for that trip. It's a Ultra Portable "laptop" with Bluetooth, Wireless, and Windows XP loaded. Having setup my phone to "tether" (aka provided an Internet Connection) to my Dell Inspiron 9400, a MacBook Pro, a MacBook, and other laptops... I didn't have any concerns about using my phone for Internet on the road. Boy, was that a mistake.
So I'm on the road, and I try to use Internet Sharing on my cell to provide a connection the laptop. It seems to connect, and the laptop tries to pull an IP connection over bluetooth, but it NEVER got a private IP address... so it assigns itself a 169 address that as many know isn't a "connected" IP for most network situations. It's a fallback, when a network device can't find a DHCP server to provide an IP address. Instead, it assigns one to itself, but it's offline.
I confirm that the "sharing" is part of the problem by running Internet Explorer. When "sharing" is connected", I couldn't get to a web page on the phone. If I disconnect, everything works as it should. So I'm like WTF?
I came out to this site and others from my phone browser, and one post said I needed ActiveSync connected between the phone and laptop to tether. So I tried setting up ActiveSync over bluetooth, but try as I might if would NEVER connect.
I then downloaded WMWifi something or other. It basically turns your WM phone into a Wireless AP so laptops and other devices can connect to the Internet. But similar to the Bluetooth problem, I couldn't pull an IP. This was VERY odd, because the Wifi program let you configure which IP numbers you wanted to use. Several options were available, such as 192.168.0.x, 192.168.1.x, up to 192.168.3.x. And there was another range as well, but none of these worked. Not even when I set a static IP address in the proper range on the laptop, or turned off the IP setting in the Wifi program, as suggested in their documentation.
So while trying to "fix" things, I tried deleting my existing Activesync profile. BAD idea, as that deleted all my contacts and such from the phone. So then I'm in Chicago, 2000 miles from home, and the only phone numbers I have with NO names is what is in my call history.
At this point, I figure I have one of two problems.
1) The config to the AT&T network on my cell is wrong, which is why the connection isn't working as it had in the past. I do know that while the AT&T settings auto-configured by the Touch Cruise weren't perfect after the wizard ran. I went out to AT&T's web site, and customized my settings to match the Tilt recommended configure. I also configured a "standard" GPRS setting that DOES NOT use the AT&T Proxy Server. That's been the ONLY way I can use Skype .6, as it can't connect to their website through Media Net.
2) One of the many programs I've installed on my phone has fouled the registry/config of my phone. I made a list of all the apps I've installed on my phone, and I suppose any one of these could have screwed up my ability to tether...
Skyfire .6
Flash Player Active X
CoreCodec Coreplayer
HTC HTC Home - Schen 2.10
MS Remote Desktop
Bluefire
Total Commander
PM Registry Editor
iNav iGuidance
Franson GpsGate 2.0
Google Maps
With the above, I can navigate anywhere in the US, connect to my work network with VPN, control my computer there like I was in my chair, and much more. But obviously not being able to get to the Internet on the road is unacceptable.
Probably will hard reset the phone this morning, and take it from there.
Sorry if it seems like I took over your thread. But like you, I had NO luck connecting ActiveSync through Bluetooth.
(Quick note: Even when I borrowed a USB Cable on the road, and tried to tether my laptop to my phone for Internet... I STILL couldn't get IE to connect to websites via my phone. I COULD use Activesync, but by then I'd already lost my contacts, etc. So I'll get that back on the phone now that I'm home.)
first off - i tried searching but could not find any solid info, from start to finish, how to make tethering work
i've never had to tether till now.. tried enabling Internet Sharing and connecting it both via USB and Bluetooth - no success.. i'm using Media Net $15 a month data plan, if that makes a difference (wap Vs gprs in user name but i did try both)...
is anyone using their phone as a modem? what settings do you have? please point the noob in the direction of a step-by-step guide if one is available (i did try to search but nothing than enabling Network connection via registry edit - not relevant)..
thanks a bunch to anyone who could help!
I'm online using the "internet sharing" connection now (in Florida cleaning up after a flood) (Yes, I need to get back to work . . . .).
I also have a Fuze and am using EnergyROM 2.0. Haven't changed any settings since installing the new ROM. Works like a charm for me.
Make sure the proxy box under the MediaNet settings is NOT checked.
vovan75 said:
first off - i tried searching but could not find any solid info, from start to finish, how to make tethering work
i've never had to tether till now.. tried enabling Internet Sharing and connecting it both via USB and Bluetooth - no success.. i'm using Media Net $15 a month data plan, if that makes a difference (wap Vs gprs in user name but i did try both)...
is anyone using their phone as a modem? what settings do you have? please point the noob in the direction of a step-by-step guide if one is available (i did try to search but nothing than enabling Network connection via registry edit - not relevant)..
thanks a bunch to anyone who could help!
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Open up taskmanager and make sure that activesync is not running on the phone. this will not allow internet sharing to work. what does the phone say when you open internet sharing and click connect?
download a registry editor (i use total commander, and it works just fine).
open it up, go to \plugins\registry\HKLM\Comm\InternetSharing\Settings\ForceCellConnection and simply delete the contents of the value so that it's empty. Go ahead and do a soft reset and open up the internet sharing app. From there, select the Media Net connection and hit connect. Voila, good to go!
Enjoy!
ps I've gotten 2+ Mbps speeds via tethering
Dane Austin said:
Open up taskmanager and make sure that activesync is not running on the phone. this will not allow internet sharing to work. what does the phone say when you open internet sharing and click connect?
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I keep activesync enabled so that i'm able to receive corporate email when on the road.
I was able to tether via USB (was doing nothing different from last night when i was unable to internet share via USB, however I noticed when shutting down that BT stack crashed); internet sharing app came up automatically once I selected internet sharing right after hooking up the cable to my laptop, and MediaNet was there by default (I guess it's all cooked into the ROM; did not have to delete any registry keys; kudos to NRGZ)... was able to get close to 1Mb/s download speed (upload is really slow however, less than 50Kb/s) - not too bad overall
Still have problem connecting via Bluetooth
maybe i'm having problem pairing laptop and Fuze? is there a pre-defined code/pass key that i'm supposed to use for the Fuze?
i was just using my security/lock code.. when laptop starts dialing (is dial up number *99# correct?), i get the following error box:
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Error Connecting to BluetoothConnection
Dialing *99#...
Error 678: The remote computer did not respond. For further assistance, click More Info or search Help and Support Center for this error number.
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Anybody had this issue? or can share their connection settings for Bluetooth?
thanks everyone who responded!
vovan75 said:
I keep activesync enabled so that i'm able to receive corporate email when on the road.
I was able to tether via USB (was doing nothing different from last night when i was unable to internet share via USB, however I noticed when shutting down that BT stack crashed); internet sharing app came up automatically once I selected internet sharing right after hooking up the cable to my laptop, and MediaNet was there by default (I guess it's all cooked into the ROM; did not have to delete any registry keys; kudos to NRGZ)... was able to get close to 1Mb/s download speed (upload is really slow however, less than 50Kb/s) - not too bad overall
Still have problem connecting via Bluetooth
maybe i'm having problem pairing laptop and Fuze? is there a pre-defined code/pass key that i'm supposed to use for the Fuze?
i was just using my security/lock code.. when laptop starts dialing (is dial up number *99# correct?), i get the following error box:
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Error Connecting to BluetoothConnection
Dialing *99#...
Error 678: The remote computer did not respond. For further assistance, click More Info or search Help and Support Center for this error number.
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Anybody had this issue? or can share their connection settings for Bluetooth?
thanks everyone who responded!
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now, i just tried leaving User Name and Password fields blank on the Bluetooth connection wizard, and using dial-up number *99***1#, like they suggest here: Answer Center - Create a Windows XP Dial-Up Networking Connection for a Bluetooth Device , and got a new error:
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Error Connecting to BluetoothConnection
Dialing *99***1#...
Error 777: The connection attempt failed because the modem (or other connecting device) on the remote computer is out of order.
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this is just getting funnier but kind of frustrating...
nhshah7 said:
download a registry editor (i use total commander, and it works just fine).
open it up, go to \plugins\registry\HKLM\Comm\InternetSharing\Settings\ForceCellConnection and simply delete the contents of the value so that it's empty. Go ahead and do a soft reset and open up the internet sharing app. From there, select the Media Net connection and hit connect. Voila, good to go!
Enjoy!
ps I've gotten 2+ Mbps speeds via tethering
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tis fixed my tethering issue... thank you!
Damn AT&T trying to force people to pay more for tethering... shame!
smittyofdhs said:
tis fixed my tethering issue... thank you!
Damn AT&T trying to force people to pay more for tethering... shame!
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smitty, do you tether via bluetooth or usb? i have no problem with usb now but still get the same "error 678: the remote computer did not respond..." i wonder if my BT driver is corrupt or i'm blacklisted by at&t
if anyone is able to connect using bluetooth and Internet Sharing app on Energy or any other similar ROM, can you share your dial-up settings with me?
after i start Internet Sharing app, with PC Connection = Bluetooth PAN and Network Connection = MEdia Net, and then right click my Bluetooth Modem in Dial-up Network Places on my laptop, the icon shows "connecting" for about 5 seconds (and the data icon H on the phone starts rotating) and then the error comes up on computer screen.. i can't believe no one else has had the same issue, i must be something with my laptop
vovan75 said:
smitty, do you tether via bluetooth or usb? i have no problem with usb now but still get the same "error 678: the remote computer did not respond..." i wonder if my BT driver is corrupt or i'm blacklisted by at&t
if anyone is able to connect using bluetooth and Internet Sharing app on Energy or any other similar ROM, can you share your dial-up settings with me?
after i start Internet Sharing app, with PC Connection = Bluetooth PAN and Network Connection = MEdia Net, and then right click my Bluetooth Modem in Dial-up Network Places on my laptop, the icon shows "connecting" for about 5 seconds (and the data icon H on the phone starts rotating) and then the error comes up on computer screen.. i can't believe no one else has had the same issue, i must be something with my laptop
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I haven't been able to get my HP laptop to pair via bluetooth with my Fuze yet so I was doing USB. With regards to your issue, do you ahve one or two pull down menus in INternet Sharing app? If you have 1, then your registry needs to be hacked. AT&T used a registry key to force Internet Sharing app to only use the isp.cingluar access point (instead of wap.cingluar). If you pay the extra bucks for the full unlimited with tehtering then your account is setup to use isp.cingluar as well as wap.cingluar. If you just have the normal unlimited w/o tehtering option (which is not unlimited it caps at 5GB/month) then you only can use wap.cingluar. THis is how AT&T is going more easily find people using the cheaper plan with thethering and of course charge them up the butt for violation of the TOS (that they keep changing). Removing the registry key, fixes the issue.
smittyofdhs said:
I haven't been able to get my HP laptop to pair via bluetooth with my Fuze yet so I was doing USB. With regards to your issue, do you ahve one or two pull down menus in INternet Sharing app? If you have 1, then your registry needs to be hacked. AT&T used a registry key to force Internet Sharing app to only use the isp.cingluar access point (instead of wap.cingluar). If you pay the extra bucks for the full unlimited with tehtering then your account is setup to use isp.cingluar as well as wap.cingluar. If you just have the normal unlimited w/o tehtering option (which is not unlimited it caps at 5GB/month) then you only can use wap.cingluar. THis is how AT&T is going more easily find people using the cheaper plan with thethering and of course charge them up the butt for violation of the TOS (that they keep changing). Removing the registry key, fixes the issue.
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sounds like we are in the same boat here - i can tether my HP laptop with Fuze via USB no problem now using Internet Sharing app, but no luck with Bluetooth whatsoever... i don't think there is an issue with the registry ever since i switched to Energy 2.0 ROM which must have the settings customized (so yes, I do have 2 pull down menus, and I have Media Net selected in the second one). So, I tried to use both wap.cingular and isp.cingular APN's (both [email protected] and [email protected] for User Name, CINGULAR1 for password; then I tried leaving User Name and Password fields blank...) with no success... nothing works, damn it!!!
looks like it gets paired up briefly, then starts dialing and gets the error in a couple of seconds.. the problem must be with the bluetooth dial-up settings for AT&T, because: 1) i have no problem tethering via USB; 2) Fuze is being paired up with my laptop and trying to use HSPDA data connection (as indicated by rotating H on the phone for a few seconds while my laptop tries to dial up).
by the way, have you tried dialing *99# or *99***1# (i tried both numbers as well as *99***3# for Samsung phones) from your Fuze, did you get any modem dial tone??
thanks!
I was able to connect to internet through bluetooth by using the following settings.
After pairing the bluetooth on both Fuze and laptop:
On my Fuze: open 'Internet Sharing' then select Bluetooth PAN and choose the appropriate network connection (in my case TZones) then tap 'Connect'
On the laptop: open bluetooth neighborhood then 'discover service' or 'explore' on the Fuze device. You should see 'Network Access Point on [Fuze]' and then double click on it.
Done.
ICS on AT&T HTC Fuze Cut Off (NRG Rom Series 2.0)
AUTiger83 said:
I'm online using the "internet sharing" connection now (in Florida cleaning up after a flood) (Yes, I need to get back to work . . . .).
I also have a Fuze and am using EnergyROM 2.0. Haven't changed any settings since installing the new ROM. Works like a charm for me.
Make sure the proxy box under the MediaNet settings is NOT checked.
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I've been using ICS with no problems with a ThinkPad T43 for a few weeks at work to circumvent the proxies and reach out to my home machine via RDP. The RDP app for the Fuze just doesn't cut it with its whopping 640x480 screen. Turns out that AT&T in NY/NJ is somehow monitoring the connections. I was watching a bunch of videos to pass some downtime, and I guess I triggered some kind of alert on their end. ICS will connect to MediaNET with no problems (settings read wap.cingular), ICS status shows connected (I am connecting over USB) and my ThinkPad network connection shows a private IP address handed to it by the phone (192.168.0.x range). However when I am trying to connect to something, I'll get timeout errors. Running a simple ping comes back with no DNS capabilities as I can't even ping google.com... Has this happened to anyone on the forum? Can anyone offer some advice? I am thinking of just calling AT&T and playing dumb, saying that I was watching videos, as well as moving lots of music from my home computer via FTP ... Any advice appreciated. I pay for the $40/month PDA plan... I don't see the point of paying for tethering when you're already paying for data. Yes, before people start flaming me, I was stupid by using the connection to watch a bunch of videos, but you're able to watch youtube on your phone anyway....
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So I downloaded ICS Control v0.21, which by the way is an awesome program. I went through the config, was able to connect my laptop to my HTC Fuze via WiFi. That was easy. As palringo (win xp version) was connecting in the background, I was able to do a test google search and get back results. Ran a continuous ping on google (ping google.com -t). Turns out that after about 25 ping replies or so, just about the time it took me to do a few web searches, the requests start timing out. Directing the ping at another website shows that the ping request couldn't find the host... basically the same problem I had tethering over USB. It's as if the AT&T network is determining that the request is coming from a PC and not the PDA and not passing the DNS requests... Either way, I tried to ping google via 74.125.45.100 and got back a request timed out. I am now wondering whether or not this may have to do with the packet MTU and whether or not the PDA packets differ from regular PC/WinXP packets. I just don't know enough about networking to be able to know. I am able to ping the Fuze gateway (for all-intensive purposes set to 192.168.2.1) and get back replies within 2-4ms. I really would love to hear from someone to whom this has happened before. I haven't called AT&T yet as the data connection on the phone itself works just fine, and I am able to load pages on the phone just fine. It's just any form of ICS that's beat...
Come on XDA-Dev, I know the collective intelligence can come up with something here.
I didn't think ATT could detect the difference between tethered requests and ones that originate on the phone, that would be bad though, if that were the case. Since the previous poster was watching videos, it seems to me the bandwidth would be the comparable to watching videos with the YouTube app on the Fuze, which I'm sure is within the terms of service contract.
My experience is closer to vovan75's. ICS works fine via USB, but does not work via Bluetooth. The strange thing is with the BT connection, I can ping the gateway, and even do nslookup with the default DNS, and sometimes if I get lucky, the connection works for a few seconds, allowing a page to load, totally random.
I thought everything worked using the original ATT rom, so I have a feeling culprit is something in the NRG rom, or maybe a radio incompatibility. I might re-flash to the old official rom just to try this, before the next time I update to the latest NRG build.
My setup:
Fuze with EnergyROM (July 22 build)
Radio: 1.14.25.35 (from official HTC 6.1 update)
Notebook with Windows 7 RTM
Windows calls this "Bluetooth Network Connection" (I don't see a reference to DUN, at least not in Win7)
ICS using BT (not working):
IPv4: 169.254.46.56
Gateway: 169.254.247.172
ICS using USB (working):
IPv4: 192.168.0.102
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
Windows 7 calls this "Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing Device"
DSLReport speed test (Flash) - down: 696Kbs, up: 336Kbs (varies quite a bit, much better at night of course)
Okay, figured it out. The DHCP setting for the bluetooth PAN should be off (I know, counter-intuitive). I found this by diff'ing the entire HKLM-Comm registry branch of the last EnergyROM build (Sept 6) vs the official ATT 6.1 rom (5.11.502.2WWE), which did work after all.
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BTPAN1\Parms\TcpIp]
"EnableDHCP"=dword:00000000
BTW, you don't need to setup Dial-Up Networking when using the Internet Sharing application (IntShrUI.exe). DUN needs to be configured on the PC when using the phone's modem bluetooth service, and AFAIK, needs to be provisioned by AT&T before it will work. The Internet Sharing app acts like an uplink for paired devices in the bluetooth personal area network (PAN).
rasterX, you rock! That little illogical registry fix is all I needed... I'd been banging my head against this Bluetooth DUN thing for days.
Thanks!