How can I tell if my Kaiser is CID locked? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

austinsnyc said:
You can use the ROMs in the first post as long as your device is not CID locked. if it is CID locked you have to wait untill a CID-unlocker is released which will be soon.!
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How can I tell if my Kaiser is CID locked? Heck, I am not even certain what CID locked means....
Thanks.

Right now all Kaisers except MFG phones are CID locked that means you cant flash a rom from AT-T on a Kaiser straight from HTC. We can put any SIM card in we like but cant flash other ROM's or radios at this time.

austinsnyc said:
Right now all Kaisers except MFG phones are CID locked that means you cant flash a rom from AT-T on a Kaiser straight from HTC. We can put any SIM card in we like but cant flash other ROM's or radios at this time.
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Maybe a stupid question, but what are MFG phones?
tia,
Cheers,
Cacti

Phones that have HTC's inhouse or test phones that most of us will never have a chance to touch. they are pretty much not locked in anyway. the way are phones should have come from HTC

austinsnyc said:
Phones that have HTC's inhouse or test phones that most of us will never have a chance to touch. they are pretty much not locked in anyway. the way are phones should have come from HTC
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Thanks very much for the explanations. But, what exactly is CID?

i'd say country id
eric b

isn't it Carrier ID (as T-Mobile US and AT&T US have different CID)
e-dub said:
i'd say country id
eric b
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correct every provider has a different CID

austinsnyc said:
Right now all Kaisers except MFG phones are CID locked that means you cant flash a rom from AT-T on a Kaiser straight from HTC. We can put any SIM card in we like but cant flash other ROM's or radios at this time.
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so ... what are these guys smoking then ??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1552247&postcount=49
They both said they were able to get AT&T ROM on their Kaisers ... and then switched back to HTC original ..etc
could it be that the ones we got are both SIM & CID unlocked already ?? ( SIM unlocked for sure )
I have the latest current ROM ... so there is no need to mess around testing to see if mine is CID unlocked ..etc
seems there are mixed reports everywhere regarding this matter ...
heck ... there was even mixed report from a legit online reviewer ... CNET ... regarding the GPS chipset & which category the Kaiser belongs to ... etc ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1541217&postcount=3
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@UnicornKaz: All preproduction devices are SuperCID, can flash any signed rom without problems. Also some CID-Locked devices with early ROM versions had MFG bootloaders on them, so they could switch ROMs only _until_ they flashed a ROM with a non-MFG bootloader on it.

zachto said:
How can I tell if my Kaiser is CID locked?
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Commands "info 2" and "getdevinfo" in bootloader (through mtty) tell you CID and ModelID of your device.

pof said:
@UnicornKaz: All preproduction devices are SuperCID, can flash any signed rom without problems. Also some CID-Locked devices with early ROM versions had MFG bootloaders on them, so they could switch ROMs only _until_ they flashed a ROM with a non-MFG bootloader on it.
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Thanks "POF"
I was getting confused reading all the postings there ... lol

pof said:
Commands "info 2" and "getdevinfo" in bootloader (through mtty) tell you CID and ModelID of your device.
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So. I managed to read enough of the wiki to download the mtty program and to get in to the bootloader.
This is what I see. It is unfortunately (except for the bit about the SD card) meaningless to me.
Cmd>info 2
Card inserted
Cmd5 CMD_TIMEOUT
SD 2.0 LC card
SD Init OK
Card inserted
Cmd5 CMD_TIMEOUT
SD 2.0 LC card
SD Init OK
Card inserted
Cmd5 CMD_TIMEOUT
SD 2.0 LC card
SD Init OK
HTCSHTC__001‰øð'HTCE
Cmd>getdevinfo
GetDevInfo: Get CID OK
HTCSKAIS1300HC_0HTCE

Your CID: HTC__001 (WWE htc branded device).
Your Model ID: KAIS1300 (Model with front and back camera).

pof said:
Your CID: HTC__001 (WWE htc branded device).
Your Model ID: KAIS1300 (Model with front and back camera).
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Many thanks pof.
karlo

i guess i'm still a little confused. if we install the CID unlocker at the top of the forum page will this allow us Tilt (ATT) owners to use any SimCard?
is CID unlock the same as SIM unlock?
sorry for the noob question, i didn't find it in the wiki

@frydryce: no. See here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeFAQ#Q19

pof said:
@frydryce: no. See here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeFAQ#Q19
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Thanks pof! i didn't think to look in other phone's wiki's. i'll read the hermes wiki as i have time.

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G4 Prophet CID unlock through www.imei-check.co.uk ?

Hi, guys, has anyone tried to do the SIM unlock AND CID unlock with your prophet through http://www.imei-check.co.uk/?
Some guys from wizard forum did unlock from that website. And I just got confirmed by an email from http://www.imei-check.co.uk/, read as following,
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Hello,
our service will remove SIM and CID lock from ANY device with ANY firmware and ANY chipset (G3 and G4). After unlocking you can use ANY SIM card and you can flash ANY compatible HTC standard firmware (2.xxxx in your case).
To unlock XDA Neo just follow the XDA Neo unlock link:
http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m600unlock.php
Regards,
IMEI-CHECK Team
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Since my device is a G4, and it is impossible to unlock it by any other free solutions. So, I am wondering if I should give it a try with this website?
Actually, I have no problem upgrading to other ROM (like the recent QTEK WWE) with no-vendor ID RUU. But every time when I wanted to try a new ROM, I was kind of nervous and was afriad to brick my phone. CID unlock will certainly ease my mind and give me advantages and brave to try more ROMs.
I am sure a free solution for this is on its way and won't take long.
I can use my prophet with different operators. This means that my pda' s sim is unlocked! How can i know that my pda's CID is unlocked?
If you have a G4 (ipl ending with .0001) then it's not unlocked. (sim lock is not cid lock as you probably already figured hehe )
If you have a G3 however it's probably not unlocked too, but you have check the wiki how to unlock it. Maybe there is some infor there too how to check if it's unlocked yes or no? Since I have a G4 I don't know that
Back on topic, I dunno if it's worth the money to CID unlock a phone there. It could be handy if you do a lot of upgrading and want to downgrade or anything.
But as said, people are already busy with a free solution to CID unlock a G4, cause if they can do it we should be able to get around it too
It writes IPL 2.09
SPL 2.09.0000
GSM 02.07.20
OS 2.9.4.30
ıs it G4 or G3?
sonsayko said:
It writes IPL 2.09
SPL 2.09.0000
GSM 02.07.20
OS 2.9.4.30
ıs it G4 or G3?
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G3, I guess. Good luck.
RaptorRVL said:
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Back on topic, I dunno if it's worth the money to CID unlock a phone there. It could be handy if you do a lot of upgrading and want to downgrade or anything.
But as said, people are already busy with a free solution to CID unlock a G4, cause if they can do it we should be able to get around it too
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I guess you are right. But do you know if people are still working on G4 unlocking? It's been a long time. I thought they have given up already.
Well, I have absolutely no idea to be honest But I just assume they do since it's pretty important with all the rom upgrading going around.
It would be perfect if you upgrade with a not so good rom etc and I guess developers of homecooked roms would like it too.
Actually, I have no problem upgrading to other ROM (like the recent QTEK WWE) with no-vendor ID RUU.
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Could you give some more info on how to do that or post a link? I have a G4 Prohphet and couldn't upgrade to QTEK WWE ROM. Thanks!
Alfa145qv said:
Could you give some more info on how to do that or post a link? I have a G4 Prohphet and couldn't upgrade to QTEK WWE ROM. Thanks!
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The protocol was proposed by Looking Glass, so, all the credits should go to him. I modified a little bit based on his procedure as following,
- Decompress and run the exe file (RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe). Don't close your grey installing window.
- Locate the just created temporary directory, something like:
C:\Documents and settings\username\local settings\temp\rarXX , or pftxx or the like (look by time/date, it's, something created one minute before your current time)
- Copy the full directory and contents to somewhere else in your PC.
- Close the still opened grey window
- get ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe from the forum, and copy to the directory you just moved to your pc (You can get it from the ftp). Copy the ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe to your "new" directory, replace the original ROMUpdateUtility.exe.
- from this "new" directory you copied in your PC, execute ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe
That's it. Simple and easy.

How to find out if my Prophet is CID Locked??

I have a Orange SPV M600 IPL 2.10.0001 and SPL 2.10.0001 (that's G4 i think).I want to flash a greek Qtek ROM but i don't know if my phone is CID locked or not.Is there any way to find out if it is CID locked or NOT.And if it is what are my options about upgrading?
P.S Sorry for my English
pswnio said:
Is there any way to find out if it is CID locked or NOT.
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Yes! You could have used Search within this forum and would stepped over plenty of answers to this question. Also mentioned in the WIKI. Even 3 days ago someone asked the same question and opened a new thread for that, we gave him the same reply.
I have a Orange SPV M600 IPL 2.10.0001 and SPL 2.10.0001 (that's G4 i think)
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G4, and if you haven't touched it then it's definately CID locked and stays CID locked until someone releases a free possibility to have these devices unlocked.
I believe my G4 M600 is both Sim unlocked and CID unlocked, am I incorrect in thinking this as I can install other roms on this list?
JD
johnnyduk said:
I believe my G4 M600 is both Sim unlocked and CID unlocked, am I incorrect in thinking this as I can install other roms on this list?
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No there is no free public available software to CID unlock a G4 yet. so be careful what you tell other people, they could take such assumptions for real and brick their phones.
Your G4 will most probably be not unlocked. Unless you used a paid service online to unlock it, and if you have done that you are sure to know!
Sim unlock != (is not) CID unlocked

Cid Unlocking

HELLO,
I have read many forums on how to unlock the CID, but I am confused. I have read that it has not been done with the Universal, then I read a sticky that has the RUU and says it "bypasses" the CID. Well the biggets problem is that there are no instruccions on it.
Could someone please help me?
Is this why I enter where people offer roms, and have one for each variant? no CID unbloking required?
Please help! I want to start flashing, but I want to be sure of what I am doing.
One more thing, what is the RUU?
Thanks!
Read the WIKI
Eelco
the sim-unlocker by Buzz_Lightyear also unlocks you're CID
Olipro made an RUU that doesnt check CID
For these two reasons you dont need to make rom's for each brand of universal, however i know of at least one cook who does.
Download the CID unlocking tools from the FTP site http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
Midget_1990 said:
the sim-unlocker by Buzz_Lightyear also unlocks you're CID
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Hello! Please, may you tell me where I can download it?
Thanks!
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Is it this ftp://xda:[email protected]/Universal/Tools_and_Programs/HTC_Uni_SIM_Unlock_v1.rar ?
Thanks!
Well I did read wiki, but there is nothing clear on it. I will keep studying them.
My SIM is unlocked anyways, does that automaticaly give me the go?
Nope, SIM and CID unlocking are completely different. A SIM Lock makes sure you cant use different vendor's SIMs on your cell phone. The CID Lock makes sure that you cant use different OS on your PDA. Like, if you've got a T-Mobile OS installed that is CID Locked, trying to install O2's WM6 will mess up your PDA!

ERROR [294] : INVALID VENDER ID while trying to upgrade to WM6.1!!!

What's wrong? I've tried different update files but they don't work
Please help,
I think I already wrote this on a wrong place!
Just to be sure, do you have a Kaiser?
Do you have HardSPL installed?
Follow these steps for ROM upgrading: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Just to be sure, do you have a Kaiser?
Do you have HardSPL installed?
Follow these steps for ROM upgrading: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Ta
Dave
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Thanks Dave,
In three color screen it says KSIS130 and then SPL_1.93.000, CPLD-8
In fact It's not a locked phone that belongs to any provider! How come I should Install another SPL?
mehrdadr said:
Thanks Dave,
In three color screen it says KSIS130 and then SPL_1.93.000, CPLD-8
In fact It's not a locked phone that belongs to any provider! How come I should Install another SPL?
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Had to ask about the Kaiser, had someone with a Treo trying to use Kaiser Hard SPL the other day
You need to Flash one of the hard SPLs before you can flash ROM's from another carrier. The Hard Spls have the CID (carrier ID) check removed which allows this.
Thanks
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Had to ask about the Kaiser, had someone with a Treo trying to use Kaiser Hard SPL the other day
You need to Flash one of the hard SPLs before you can flash ROM's from another carrier. The Hard Spls have the CID (carrier ID) check removed which allows this.
Thanks
Dave
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What I don't understand is that why my phone is locked? I first tried the HTC website update file, the some others from the links of XDA.
Sorry for stupid questions, I'm not really familiar with all these locking and bought my phone supposed to be without any lock! Could this be the agent of HTC desire?
mehrdadr said:
What I don't understand is that why my phone is locked? I first tried the HTC website update file, the some others from the links of XDA.
Sorry for stupid questions, I'm not really familiar with all these locking and bought my phone supposed to be without any lock! Could this be the agent of HTC desire?
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All phones come CID locked, even the HTC ones, it means you can only flash ROM's made by the same manufacturer as the phone.
Your phone will probably be SIM unlocked meaning you can use any SIM card you like, but to flash a ROM with a different CID isn't possible without Hard SPL.
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
All phones come CID locked, even the HTC ones, it means you can only flash ROM's made by the same manufacturer as the phone.
Your phone will probably be SIM unlocked meaning you can use any SIM card you like, but to flash a ROM with a different CID isn't possible without Hard SPL.
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Dave
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So the one I downloaded from their website must work right?
Yes it's SIM unlocked and works with everything.
I'm still looking for a proper time so that I can start operation on my phone! the big surgery
mehrdadr said:
So the one I downloaded from their website must work right?
Yes it's SIM unlocked and works with everything.
I'm still looking for a proper time so that I can start operation on my phone! the big surgery
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Should do ...
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Dave
Now confision,
It's just due to the low IQ I know
In fact I read different explanation for SPL and found that after I start with SSPL-KAIS.exe then I'll need to have the hard SPL.
What If I want one of the original ROMs from http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Do I need to extract the SPL from one of the original files on the mentioned link? If not Which hard SPL?
And then can I just run one of the WWE shipped .exe files or again the new ROM file must be extracted and being installed?
thanks
mehrdadr said:
It's just due to the low IQ I know
In fact I read different explanation for SPL and found that after I start with SSPL-KAIS.exe then I'll need to have the hard SPL.
What If I want one of the original ROMs from http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Do I need to extract the SPL from one of the original files on the mentioned link? If not Which hard SPL?
And then can I just run one of the WWE shipped .exe files or again the new ROM file must be extracted and being installed?
thanks
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Actually, you dont need to do HardSPL or CID unlock for ROM upgrading,.
Those thing are used to make a smoother ROM (remove white screen, freeze, etc),.
When i have my TyTN at the second day, i flash to WM.6, and all works well,.
Make sure that you have download Kaiser ROM,.
make sure you dont have any corrupted download,.
ps: until now, my TyTN never been CID Unlocked,.
Garmin said:
Actually, you dont need to do HardSPL or CID unlock for ROM upgrading,.
Those thing are used to make a smoother ROM (remove white screen, freeze, etc),.
When i have my TyTN at the second day, i flash to WM.6, and all works well,.
Make sure that you have download Kaiser ROM,.
make sure you dont have any corrupted download,.
ps: until now, my TyTN never been CID Unlocked,.
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No I'm even more and worse confused!!! I think Dave says that I need to Unlock the CID. However in some of the articles I think I read that to.
By the way none of the files I downloaded worked on my phone. Really I tried several, either from the HTC website or from XDA but same Invalid Vender ID comes to the PC displaye
mehrdadr said:
No I'm even more and worse confused!!! I think Dave says that I need to Unlock the CID. However in some of the articles I think I read that to.
By the way none of the files I downloaded worked on my phone. Really I tried several, either from the HTC website or from XDA but same Invalid Vender ID comes to the PC displaye
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Just flash one of the hard SPL 3.* by Jockyw2001 and all should be OK.
Ta
Dave.

Debranding the Sensation

Correct me if I'm wrong but if I was to get a Vodafone UK Sensation could I debrand it via the gold card method using the Europe RUU or is the locked bootloader gonna pose an issue?
+1 for an answer. I saw that little box thingy for generating gold cards and wondered if that would work.
I've been waiting for some info to come up on debranding too. But I didnt know if it would be possible until the unbranded handsets come out.
EddyOS said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but if I was to get a Vodafone UK Sensation could I debrand it via the gold card method using the Europe RUU or is the locked bootloader gonna pose an issue?
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no you wont, since you'll be changing the bootloader. so no chance of jumping ship from voda branding
Thought as much, waiting for the unbranded handsets to be released then I'll get one of them - assuming it's actually any good
Or get your phone from Vodafone unbranded like me!
Barff1984 said:
no you wont, since you'll be changing the bootloader. so no chance of jumping ship from voda branding
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You won't be changing the bootloader by unbranding it.
If you get a goldcard to work, you just flash over the shipped HTC stock ROM.
However, I have been having problems with the goldcard method. I can create the card, but the CID check still fails when running the ROM off the card.
have u tried running the RUU
west2cool said:
have u tried running the RUU
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No, but I guess it will fail anyway, since the CID check failed for the ROM on the SD card via bootloader, I imagine it will fail via the RUU also.
Does the phone need to be connected via HTC Sync to run an RUU? Or just connected via Charge only?
You can run it in FASTBOOT, going by other HTC handsets
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You can run it in FASTBOOT, going by other HTC handsets
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Hmm. Might be worth a try. But I am sure the CID check will fail.
Update: I tried the RUU using the fastboot method, and again, it failed on the CID. Everything was going well until then.
We need someone else to try with a goldcard on their device. Mine doesn't work at all
Has there been any progress with this? I'd really like to debrand if poss.
madindehead said:
We need someone else to try with a goldcard on their device. Mine doesn't work at all
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Which SD card are you using?
I tried to de-brand a friend's Hero once using the Goldcard method. Using his 4GB Kingstone didn't work, then I tried my 2GB SanDisk and it went right through.
Hi.
just some questions to get things straight.
My English isn't "DA bomb"
If i could use the GoldCard method i could install every ROM i like right?
But if there's an other ROM i would like to install can you flash it just like that? Or do i need the GoldCard method again?
Sorry for the misunderstanding but my English isn't perfect
Thanks in advance
IannEefje said:
Hi.
just some questions to get things straight.
My English isn't "DA bomb"
If i could use the GoldCard method i could install every ROM i like right?
But if there's an other ROM i would like to install can you flash it just like that? Or do i need the GoldCard method again?
Sorry for the misunderstanding but my English isn't perfect
Thanks in advance
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Using Goldcard, you can ONLY install signed ROMs, i.e. official ROMs.
But we don't think it works correctly sadly.
madindehead said:
Using Goldcard, you can ONLY install signed ROMs, i.e. official ROMs.
But we don't think it works correctly sadly.
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I could give it a try... It would be nice to have an official ROM without the Vodafone branding. Thx for clearing it up for me !!
I'm new to HTC, if I wanted to try debranding, where do you get the roms from?
Does the Goldcard-method or other methods work on the sensation ?
Because i bought the sensation yesterday with vodafone branding and i hate it
When the sensation is debranded i can install only official roms in the moment, right ?
I tried again, to flash the HTC 1.27 ROM, and I get a signature error. I get a CID error with the HTC 1.24 ROM. That's using a 2GB Kingston SD card for my goldcard. I'm starting to think it doesn't work
Where did you get the roms from?
I dont even know where to start looking, is there a site like samfirmwares for htc?
EDIT:
nmv just found the thread in the dev section on here.

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