i think we did all sort of upgrading and hacking for the kjam, and one of the most annoying problem no one did find its solution till now.
the dead sleep screen.
for who dont know what i'm talking about, i mean by "dead sleep screen" when the device after some minutes of ur choice turn the backlight off, u expect to turn backlight on again by pressing either any button, or touching the screen or the power on, but nothing will light the screen again, and when the device go in standby mode and turn off the screen, same issue no key and no screen touch will wake it up again.
i faced this problem in almost most of the roms, and to be clear:
NO OVERCLOCKING SOFTWARES ARE USED
NO ADDITIONAL SOFTWARES ARE USED
RADIO 2.19 WICH IS PERFECT
last time i flashed my device to the new new tnt5 rom, expecting a solution for this problem but this time the problem is getting more annoying and present each time.
please if anyone have a solution, a patch file, a registrytweaking, let us know as this problem is the most killer for the device, u cant imagine that 10 calls are missed and u cant hear the ring of ur phone just because of its hibernation.
P.S.: i saw some time ago a patch file for the jasjam or jamin called "auto suspend patch" anyone tried if it's effective, and if it work on kjam, or maybe the experts have a more solid solution.
thanks for all ur support and help
Starting from ROMs using OS 5.2.1413 and changing the PagePool to 12MB, I never has the Sleep of Death problem now.
I used Underground 3.0 and now NBD 8.2 WM6 ROM, with IPL and SPL 3.08, Radio 2.69.11.
Warning.
Please try not to double post threads anymore.
I've never experienced (nor heard of) this "sleep of death" problem. When the backlight dims (but the wizard is still on) i can light it up again by pressing any key (or tapping anywhere). When the phone goes in standby, instead, i can only use the power button to start it again.
Things have been this way since the first time i bought the phone, with every rom, in any language.
@ anichillus:
sorry for that, didnt know that i have a double post, it happened accidently when i had a down connection then i refresh and resend the page, weird i think it shouldnt post it as second thread.
@risidoro:
i think u r more than lucky man, i know a lot of pplz facing this sleep from time to time, the way they missed some calls, and pplz think that they are away them.
@starkwong:
please can u tell me the easiet way to up the page pool from 6 to 12, maybe a packtool?
P.S.: i tried the followings in order to fix the sleep death screen
1- REMOVING THE SD CARD, SOFT RESET (DIDNT WORK)
2- REMOVING THE NON OVECLOACK BATTERY, CLEAN REGISTRY, SOFT RESET (DIDNT WORK)
3- CHARGED BATTRY, RESETTING THE BACKLIGHT SETTINGS (DIDNT WORK)
4- INSTALLING THE (AUTO SUSPEND PATCH) THIS FILE WORKS, AND TILL NOW I DIDNT FACE IT AGAIN, WILL CONTINUE CHECKING AND TESTING, TO SEE HOW MUCH THIS PATCH FILE IS EFFECTIVE FOR THE DEATH SLEEP.
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@ anichillus:
sorry for that, didnt know that i have a double post, it happened accidently when i had a down connection then i refresh and resend the page, weird i think it shouldnt post it as second thread.
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No problem, i was suspecting that
To change page pool size, I recommend using the Wizard Service Tool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170
Sorry I'm a bit late;
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...standby&page=2 where the resolution was to get a new SIM.
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
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I flash the my hima with the TofClock 2.01a32WWE ROM, and it works fine, and I'm very glad with it.
But now, some time I turn off my hima by pressing the power button, the screen went black, after a while, I want to light it to operate, the hima keeping black, and the hima cannot operate any more, and I tried to call my phone(hima), the hima didn't ringing. Also, SMS, MMS, all function dead. But the same time, the 2 leds, Blue and Green/Red, flash like normal.
At this time, the only way to operate hima normally was soft-reset it by press the hole with my pen.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Is there someone experience this situation, and is there some way to solve the problem.
:idea: :idea:
ps: in the Settings --> System --> Power --> Advanced page, the 2 options can set "Turn off device if not used for" some minutes, when "turn off" time out, the same problem occurs like above, I called it Auto Turn Off
My device is Dopod 696 (Maybe Chinese mainland version of O2 XDA II).
:wink: :wink:
I also experienced similar problems, but with the 64 version.
After a while, when I tried to turn it back on, it began to act strange. First the automatic turn off backlight option was every time reset to 10 sec and then after a day or 2 I noticed that the screen was sometimes still showing some black lines. Changing the volume still gave the corresponding sounds, but nothing else seemed to work (or wasn't visible). Normal operating mode was only reinstated after a soft-reset.
I gave it a hard reset and restored a backup (using SPB). It's operating again, but it already contains the 10 sec change.
So probably have to start clean again and install everything from the beginning, but before I do I would like to make sure it will not happen again.
Appears like the Power Off option is screwed, no matter in which way I use it (button or a program).
Anyone have any thoughts on it?
zplei
yes, i have same problem on my O2 XDA ATOM
with last rom and other
I have the same problem too, the only ay to have it back is softreset
i was using spb to toggle display mode.
someone said can be solve by reegedit. but how to.
anyone found a solution..?
Greetings,
I just upgraded to the 2.02.00 ROM last night but still have the occassional lockups. I need to do a soft reboot to get the phone to respond. I believe when it locks up, the radio is still running since I see the blinking Green LED for the GSM. I have to switch off the POWER MANAGEMENT option of "Turn off in x min in not used" for battery power to be able to use the device for calls. The only level of battery saving I am stuck with now is the Backlight auto-off and the beam settings.
Is this something others are having as well or are any applications the culprit?
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Regards
BHAMEED
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Windiws Mobile 6 (CROSSBOW)Jwright
OS 5.2.318 (Build 15341.0.0.0) AKU 0.0
CE ROM Version : (2.02.00 WWE)
RADIO Version : 1.13.00
ExtROM Version : (2.03.05 WWE) UNLOCKED
Bootloader Version : ver 2.01
Try the power button
All buttons..including the power button...no response.
try holding down the power button
or setting the backlight to atleast one notch.
Urm... uh... ah.... eeee... aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.
I can confirm this behavior on my MDA Pro (G3).
All ROM versions the same like Bhameed's on my MDA, ...except bootloader of course.
Anyone else noticed this on 2.02.00?
Hold on, can you guys be more specific with this? Are you absolutely sure it doesn't come back on when you PRESS AND HOLD the power button??? Really sorry if I sound like I'm being pedantic, but just from what you've written it sounds like you don't know how to turn on the phone???
hahahaHAHAHA!!! awesome reply spyder
ok, yeah i was thinking this is an issue of not being able to turn on your phone.
yeah what's going on that was different from before?
There have been only few moments where you think "Surely not"... I hate those moments, I'm just hoping this isn't one of them! If it is a genuine problem it's pretty serious and needs to be addressed, but if not.... well, I don't think I should say much more
Please please please say this is all a big joke. I'm tired, please excuse me.
I confirm this behaviour!
And more!
My Qtek freezes... freezes... and then PUFFF. Dead.
I wait some minutes (30 minutes) and I can turn it on again.
I'll send it to qtek.
Mine has a thing sometimes where there will be a pause between pressing the power button and it coming to life... sometimes if I get impatient and press the power button again it will turn it back off before it's come on.
I don't really get it though. Does it freeze while it's still on, or while it's turned off? If it freezes when on, there's plenty of info about how to prevent freezes (mostly 3rd party apps + reg tweaks).
If it really does freeze when off, then please let us know anything more on the issue that you can.
SpyderTracks said:
Mine has a thing sometimes where there will be a pause between pressing the power button and it coming to life... sometimes if I get impatient and press the power button again it will turn it back off before it's come on.
I don't really get it though. Does it freeze while it's still on, or while it's turned off? If it freezes when on, there's plenty of info about how to prevent freezes (mostly 3rd party apps + reg tweaks).
If it really does freeze when off, then please let us know anything more on the issue that you can.
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Mine freezes everywhere. Bootscreen, Pin code menu (when u type your pin). It depends.
then pda doesn't turn on.
Many problems.
Just go to the assistance. :\
1.Sometimes it freezes while its on. For Instance I had program opened and then whenI tried pressing X to close nothing happened. I had to use the red hardware button to close. Wonder why.
2.I too agree while the phone boots and is searching for network, it takes very long, Meanwhile when the pin enter screen come up, unless the network is fully searched one cannot enter the sim pin code, it has few freezes. or at time the phone signal icon disappears on top bar and again you need to reset the phone.
aniel1 said:
1.Sometimes it freezes while its on. For Instance I had program opened and then whenI tried pressing X to close nothing happened. I had to use the red hardware button to close. Wonder why.
2.I too agree while the phone boots and is searching for network, it takes very long, Meanwhile when the pin enter screen come up, unless the network is fully searched one cannot enter the sim pin code, it has few freezes. or at time the phone signal icon disappears on top bar and again you need to reset the phone.
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Again, I don't have this problem for some reason... I get very few freezes at all.
I think we're getting away from the original point of the post though... and normal freezing is well documented in most OS threads with means to prevent it.
Same here...Confirmed. Tried all button combinations to get the display back (short presses and long ones), but then end up having to do a soft-reboot to finally get the phone to work properly....
Bhameed said:
Same here...Confirmed. Tried all button combinations to get the display back (short presses and long ones), but then end up having to do a soft-reboot to finally get the phone to work properly....
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And then you don't have other problems? Like freezes?
EDIT: I flash the original rom but the problem still here
I wonder if this could be a memory leak like someone suggested.... I'm sorry guys, I haven't experienced this problem, and I haven't seen any posts about it until this thread, is there any chance you guys with this issue can keep an eye over your memory status over say a couple of days to see if there's a leek and keep us posted? Once we find out what the problem is it should make a solution easier.
I experienced this problem as well using a cooked WM5 ROM on my HERM200 the only fix I found was migrating to another ROM. I'm currently using CUSTEL_Cing_v1.3, the battery life sucks but I love WM6, it is so much faster, I'm still tweaking and trying to resolve some other issues but other than that I am quite happy with it.
If you are experiencing the lockup I would suggest moving to another ROM as an option, that worked for me. Although a clean install usually fixes a lot of problems.
Hi,
My VOX sometimes gets shutdown automatically. It happens at least once in two days. And whenever it shutsdown, I can feel that the handset has become slightly hot. I need to remove the battery and put it back to turn on the phone again.
But one strange thing I noticed is that, if the bluetooth was on when the phone went down, I can see the bluelight blinking even when the phone seems to be shutdown.
Do you guys know what could be causing this?
My Radio Version is 4..13.41_02.88.90 and OS is 5.2.1236 (Build 17741.0.2.1)
Thanks pals!
Sounds like it's over-heating possibly? If the BT LED is blinking blue, then the device is still on, I think you have some software that is either causing it to run at full load or causing a soft reset.
hum, maybe this has something to do with the problem already reported in some posts of some VOX's
the screen goes black, but the phone remains on
normaly if you wait a couple of seconds, and try to mess with the phone again, it will be alright,
sometimes i even have to remove the battery
some say the problem could be overheating as u say, but until now, i havent found any solution for this, i also am facing the same problem
Same problem for me when turning on the Wifi, but the phone turns off completly and the battery showing empty after turning the phone on, I have to remove the battery each time!
But when it's connected, my phone runs perfectly.
Maybe I have to change my battery, no?
I don't think in my case the phone is on (except for BT light blinking). Otherwise it should be in a big hung state where it is not able to respond to keyboards, power key or any interface at all.
Next time I encounter this problem, I will try calling my own number to see whether the radio is on.
I have been using this vox since last 8 months, but in the last couple of months I have encountered quite a lot of problems like radio repeatedly getting turned off, first call after restart hanging (not consistent but happens most of the time I restart the phone and try to make calls with in the first 20 seconds after bootup) etc.
Do you think an upgrade 6.1 would do any good?
Thanks again!!
I was having that problem too. I tried upgrading to WM6.1 and upgrading the radio, nothing worked. I sent it in and they replaced the mainboard, but now it seems to be worse. I just got it back though, so I haven't called them about it yet. I'm just looking around to see if it could be a battery issue.
My phone restart issue was mainly a hardware or loose contact issue. Once the phone fell down and after that whenever there was a long press on 0, * or # keys, the phone would restart.
After two days my phone fell down once again from my hand and this issue got resolved forever. Lucky me!
My S710 HTC original, shut down every day at 00.16. In the past was at 02.46, and I discover it since during my trip in asia I found the phone off.
More over the alarm is not reliable and cannot be used for this reason.
The following application are installed:
- Customisation from HTC for my operator TIM
- microsoft Office mobile upt
- pmCleanSP
- spWZTools
- Skype
- Tom Tom
HTC service told me to flash it with Rom update.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Hi,
once and a while my TP does not awake after pressing the on/off switch. The device does not react anymore and a soft reset is necessary to get the device to run again. Any solutions for this irritating behaviour??
thnx, Kuzibri
Same thing happened to me after I charged it this morning.
I had it happen twice in the first two days... haven't figured out why though.
Just switched off T3F to see whether this coorects the problem!
switching of TF3D corrected the problem. Trying other "shell-based" programs (SPB Mobile Shell - Winterface) did not produce this "awakening" problem, but neither program comes near the TF3D, although both programs go deeper into WM 6.1. So, either I have to stick to a relatively unreliable TF3D or disable it and wait for another upgrade from HTC or another, yet to be developed, new shell replacing program
i had this problem too...i think it has something to do with the power button. if you turn off key lock under settins>system>key lock (do not lock buttons)
you can wake it using any button. this has stopped my pro from not waking at least for 1 day so far
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2where the resolution was to get a new SIM.
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
Hi
Unless I'm actively using it my TP keeps turns itself off after 30 seconds no matter what power settings I use (and despite a factory reset and SPB restore). This isn't too much of an issue, except when I'm trying to use GPS/Satnav (TT7) whilst driving, where turning itself off is a real pain.
Could anyone please suggest how this issue can be resolved?
Many thanks in advance...
Is it physically turning off, requiring you to press the on key, let it reboot, or,
is it going to sleep, and you press the on key to wake it up?
If it is the latter, go to start>settings>system>power, click on the
advanced tab and change the backlight & power off settings there.
If it actually turning off, sounds like it might be a defective phone.
Thanks for your reply!
I've repeatedly altered the power settings but it makes no difference at all, if I set it to turn off at any given time (or not at all) it'll still turn off after 30 seconds. And to claify, it doesn't reboot, it just turns the screen off. It *feels* like a software issue, because it'll stay working forver as long as I tap the screen occasionally, something somewhere just counts down 30 seconds if i don't and turns off the screen...
The max time you can put on it is 5 min. The default setting out of the box is 30 seconds --which sound like what you currently have.
Set the "On Battery Power: Turn off backlight if device is not used for xxx MIN). Make sure first that that's checked, and select the drop down.
Eventually --to conserve battery power--, it will 'sleep'.
Your NAVIGATION software should have a setting to over-ride this to NEVER TURN OFF DISPLAY WHILE NAVIGATION.
Aside from that, there is no other way to keep the backlight on --unless it's plugged into a power outlet.
Many thanks again for your reply; As I mentioned previously I've already changed the power settings settings (frequently) and I'm definitely not on the 30-second default, no setting appears to make any difference, be it 5 minutes or 'never turn off'. It also happens when the 'phone is plugged into a power source too.
(And I have got the 'don't turn off whilst navigating' box ticked for the satnav but the issue applies generally, not just to the satnav, that's just where it's most irritating).
Is there any possibility something has changed in the registry to over-ride the control panel settings in this way?
How about doing a hard reset and not doing a spb restore? You realize that all you did when you restored the phone was restore the bug, right?
Edit: I doubt it will work, but you can try the backlight cab. It will restore all the stock backlight reg settings if yours are messed up.
timpollard said:
Hi
Unless I'm actively using it my TP keeps turns itself off after 30 seconds no matter what power settings I use (and despite a factory reset and SPB restore). This isn't too much of an issue, except when I'm trying to use GPS/Satnav (TT7) whilst driving, where turning itself off is a real pain.
Could anyone please suggest how this issue can be resolved?
Many thanks in advance...
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Hi,
I have same problem as you. TP keeps turns itself off after 30 sec!!
And I am using TT7. So this problem is so annoying.
I tried hard resetting and install programs one by one. and check if TP is keeping backlight on or not. And I installed TT7 and worked perfect.( display is always on)
That was yesterday.
Today I was using TP, it happened again.
The registry setting is still 3min on battery, uncheck on AC power.
30 sec problem happens both status.
This thing did not happen before Raphael_Cingular_US_5.11.502.2_Radio_Sign.
TP worked fine for a while on this radio.
Now even I check " NEVER TURN OFF DISPLAY WHILE NAVIGATION" box in some apps. TP turn off backlight.
I tried backlight.cab, that did not work and still turning off.
(thanks anyway )
ATT Fuze
Raphael_Cingular_US_5.11.502.2_Radio_Sign
Added Japanese IME
Resco Explorer, regedit
Resco Today Plugin
Spb time, Today plugin
TT7
TomTom 7 - v7.910.9185
I will try hard reset again.
Somebody please help us out.
Did you try the cab? If that doesn't work, just flash another rom.
I am also having this problem. I did get it to stop once by going in to the registry and actually editing it. But it started to do it again after a wile. I am trying it again today and see if it work. I am using a trial version of BestRegEdit and was wonder if it could have changed it back because it was a trial. So if some one elce wants to give it a shot it us under HKey_Current_user\ControlPanel\Power\Display and you will change that 30 to what ever amount of time you want. I pick 0 because i never want it to turn off. Hope this helps Oyeah, does anyone know of a free resitry editor? This is my last day on the BestRegEdit Thanks
Uh, total commander, regedit, dotfred's task manager and probably a few more.
Farmer Ted said:
Did you try the cab? If that doesn't work, just flash another rom.
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Thanx,
I tried cab, and did not work. So I installed test rom and works fine now. NO 30 seconds backlight off now.
[March 1st] New ATT test rom Radio 1.12.25.19 OS AKU 1.4.6 Build 20771
I will use this until new "Signed" and Works Ok radio comes.
* Recently I use resco explorer and regedit addon. Free app: regedit.Mrln works fine, I think. I have been using these for keyboard layout section.
Glad you solved it, I had an interesting problem, similar to the screen issue, wonder it it might be related. I flashed to a new rom over the weekend, and no matter what I did, the backlight would turn off after 10 seconds. You could reset it to 30 in the power profile, but after a reboot, it would revert back to 10 seconds. Reflahsed it, and after the flash, when it starts loading the customizations, it would freeze. Flashed again, and it hung at customization again! Downloaded the rom again, deleted the old one, and flashed and it worked and the backlight would stay put!
Maybe the one you downloaded was corrupt?
Anyway, glad you got it working.
P.S. The rom isn't an "official" that I downloaded, it was one of the 6.5 that the cooks on the rom page whipped up. I think it was just a corrupted download.
This issue has happened to me a few times. even while i'm still using the phone and typing the screen goes off.
very annoying.
I found it only happened to me using EnergyROM. when I flashed to a different rom the problem was solved.
recently I flashed back to the newest version of EnergyROM again (after the previous ROM decided to hard reset all by itself) and this issue happened again in the first hour!
I really wish I could find a usable ROM for once and for all
My Case: WMWifiRouter was it!
This happend even when TP under Test rom env. I just gave up and installed latest version cause this ver is less stressfull.
Luckly 30 sec issue did not happend for a while until I installed WMWifiRouter.
Just after I install V1.50 30 sec thing and happend.
KB0907027: [BUG] v1.50 backlight timeout issue
http://support.wmwifirouter.com/knowledge/KB0907027/
I Installed V1.52 and now works fine and no backlight problem.
If you installed WMWifirouter check the link.
I use EnergyROM as well and i noticed that right after a fresh flash, if you tried to modify certain settings using the gui (i.e. alarm times, connection settings etc) they wouldnt stick - perhaps a direct registry edit using one of the tools previously mentioned might force the device to remember the changes? this worked for me when i had trouble with my alarm times not being saved.
ive also heard that sometimes a soft-reset isnt enough to commit changes to the registry - i.e. once making a reg edit, cold boot the device - that is press and hold the power button and turn it entirely off.
hope this helps