Hi newbie here,
Can anyone tell me the difference as per above. Thanks.
well apart from one having double the ram as the other there is not difference
that will make a difference only when microsoft will rlease rom greater than 32 mo what is suppose to be for the windows mobile 2003 SE....
he's not talking about rom size but about ram size i think
the first xda1's came in versions with only 32MB
How can i know about the page pool size of my MDA VARIO. mean which version of ROM to download.
I also like to know if I upgrade to wm6 will my MDA vario will get slow or what as I think wm6 looks like VISTA. I have OMAP850-195MHz processor and 44.04 MB Memory
thanks!
Hi guys just wondering, we have 128MB RAM on our Kaisers. But even on the most lightest ROMs we can only free up about 70MB. Which means 128MB - 70MB = 58MB is used by OS and other stuff. But I remember that on my old Hermes which had 64MB RAM there used to be about 30MB free. Thats 64MB - 30MB = 34MB used by ths OS and other stuff. But how come the Kaiser uses 58MB(Kaiser used by OS RAM) - 34MB (Hermes used by OS RAM) = 24MB more ?
Is anyone kind enought to explain ? Maybe some ROM Cook could explain this ?
Thanks in advance !
Edit : 64 views and nobody has the answer ?
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This is kinda the byte and the bit thing. Htc says that the flash is 128 mb, but in real MB its 101.63 ( u can see it in settings - about). It's like when u buy a harddisk of 500gb, but when formated it has real 460 or so. Thus, if u do the maths, the os uses quite the same memory as wm5, or even less. Hope this clears it up for u!
but thats for harddrives not RAM. Oh well thats another fine mess.
it's used as ram but as a hardware it is flash memory. flash drives are like harddrives for what i know. so when they say 128 thwy really just want to squeeze every penny they can from buyers. its called advertising, the average form of manipulation. oh and by the way, also what tgey say is true, as in 128mb not MB, but thats only a tiny detail. ps the 64mb ram phones were the same...hardly did u see one above 48 real MB. Cheers
You're confusing RAM with ROM now. The Kaiser has 256Mb of ROM, which is technically implemented as flash memory, the harddrive if you like. This is where windows, your programs and your files are installed.
Then there's the RAM, 128Mb. this is volatile working memory for the CPU to run it's programs in. It has to be way faster than flash for your phone to be usable at al, and is probably implemented as SDRAM.
Hi guys
I'm new to all this, just got a Touch Pro the other day dirt cheap which was so slow it was almost unusable. I've flashed hard spl and a rom with Mobile 6.5 rather than the stock 6.1 but sinse doing this the total memory available has changed from 288 to 200 and the % usage has risen to 26%ish before to 42% now on bootup.
Could someone please explain this, do I need to make changes to the pagefile or something?
Also I'm looking for a mobile "msconfig" to change startup programs that are loaded to free up more memory could anyone help me with this?
Thanks
Unless you're actually getting memory errors or the phone is locking up, I would say you don't have a problem. Just ignore the different values (are you sure you had 288 M of ram; I don't think so). 200 M of ram is plenty, and you should be glad you're using more. If you don't use it, it's kind of pointless. More ram usage usually means things run faster. Trust your chef.
SK Tools allows you to tweak your startup (among many other things). But unless you actually have a real (and not perceived) problem, I wouldn't worry about it. People get way too caught up in the % ram. I don't even use the quick menu any more, and it's kind of a relief to not see it all the time.
You can decrease the page pool with a page pool changer or hex editor. It sounds like you have a 14 M page-pool, which seems pretty reasonable. If you drop the pagepool to 6 M, you have another 8 M of available ram, but your ram% will go up. I'd just forget about it if I were you. Trust your chef.
matt09 said:
Hi guys
I'm new to all this, just got a Touch Pro the other day dirt cheap which was so slow it was almost unusable. I've flashed hard spl and a rom with Mobile 6.5 rather than the stock 6.1 but sinse doing this the total memory available has changed from 288 to 200 and the % usage has risen to 26%ish before to 42% now on bootup.
Could someone please explain this, do I need to make changes to the pagefile or something?
Also I'm looking for a mobile "msconfig" to change startup programs that are loaded to free up more memory could anyone help me with this?
Thanks
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Like Ted said, the numbers you are reporting are not an issue at all. Be careful tweaking your page pool too much. I use Memaid to tweak my settings and find that the devices default settings, which are the ones cooked in from the kitchen, provide the best performance.
Thanks for the replies but the reason I asked is because the Touch Pro has 288mb of ram total which was displayed in Win 6.1 while 200 is reported as the total in Windows 6.5, and the fact the % went up so much reflects the error in the amount of memory detected for use. I know the % don't mean much but it looks like i have 88mb less available to use?
Thanks I'll look into SK Tools.
Cheers
I think you're getting the 288 MB ram from the specs (it's the size of the chip, I guess, but not the amount of free program memory); that's not the available ram, though, in use. I have no idea how much free ram I had on the stock fuze rom, but it wasn't anywhere near 288. I currently have 197 M free ram with a 16 M page pool on a 6.5 rom. Your ram is perfectly normal, it's what everyone has. Flash back to the stock rom and see how much ram you have then-it won't be 288. (Now that I think of it, I think I had ~200 M free on the stock rom.)
There's no error in the % ram at startup, either. That is entirely by design. If you want to see a lower number, use advanced config to either lower or disable the caches. Then enjoy the low program memory usage and the sucky experience. More ram usage = better performance. You still have 110 M of free ram at startup. That's more than most devices have in total. Use it. Enjoy it. Don't waste it by not using it. That is my advice to you.
If you don't believe me, just take look at NATF's 6.1 rom vs. his 6.5 rom. He's got 193 M free ram in the 6.5 rom (with a 20 M page pool), and 200 M free ram in the 6.1 rom. Not sure what the PP is in the latter, but I suspect it's 16 M. You can also look up stock or stock-like roms in the rom forum. They're all going to be in the same ball park, depending on the paging.
Ok thanks, I was raising the issue as well because I have a Sony Experia running a similar rom with less memory on the board but it still reports 200mb and it feels quite alot smoother than the htc, and not just with touch 3D, is this the general concencus that experias for whatever reason are faster?
Thanks
Not too many people have xperias, so I couldn't tell you. Does it have a faster processor? I couldn't tell you why it feels faster. Try some different roms until you get one you like.
The processor is the same and I am using one of the most popular cooked speed roms on here.
hi i have a i-mate jasjam running a cooked 6.5 rom and only 4mb pagepool and the thing im unsure about is the specs said it has 64mb ram and with the pagepool set to 4mb wouldnt that leave me with 60mb total ram instead of 50mb?? any help would be great thanks