I recently purchased a Samsung Blackjack, my first smartphone. Personally for someone who has never owned a Palm/PocketPC/Blackberry this is a really good beginner phone and I am satisfied so far. The only questions I do have are, I have done a lot of research and the official WM6 Update has not been released for the Blackjack, but when I search on these forums I see all sorts of ROMs? Are these just beta ROMs re-programmed by users here? Because from what I know WM6 is not official for the Blackjack yet.
And also one more thing, I know the blackjack has a microSD slot. Spectec is in the process of creating a Micro SDIO 802.11b/g WiFi card, it's not been released yet but I tried to contact the company no response. Does anyone here know if any other companies make this card or if you have heard any news on the release date. Apperently this card and WM6 were supposed to come out this summer, ah....I hate indecisive companies.
Take Care ~ Motts
they would most likely be
1, beta roms
2. leaked roms
3. custom/fake roms where people use the core of wm5 and add
wm6 ontop of it that will make it look like wm6 and for the most parts
be a wm6 device
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suspectly WM 6 will laungh on Microsoft Australia’s TechEd
source : http://www.istartedsomething.com/
i hope it will
http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/8800/treo-750-windows-mobile-6-update-next-week/
I've seen info about it on 5 portals. Could be sooo great! I simply can't wait!
I won't upgrade with AT&T for now - I wait for voda/row!
why Voda Unbranded better no Junk at all no ATT or Voda Junk just pure
Palm WM6 + plus it give it unlocked look with absence of Brand logos
I hope it's officially released for download next week also! But, what I really hope for is that the ROM has been further refined since they cooked up the 'prerelease' version, however long ago that was.
I agree. I hope that they made changes to the ROM since the release that's been leaked to us on here.
Guys , who sale this one ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Palm-Treo-750...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Does it has AT&T WM6 ,or....?
Seller doesnt mentioned it of course
khak said:
Guys , who sale this one ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Palm-Treo-750...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Does it has AT&T WM6 ,or....?
Seller doesnt mentioned it of course
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Obviously someone hoping that they can make a quick buck off of someone who doesn't know any better because this phone has got the WM6 installed on it. It's a leaked copy of it.
Considering that only the ATT copy of it has been leaked on xda-developers.com, I would think that this person got it from here. So, it's the same ROM that you've seen floating around here.
I read somwhere that listings on eBay for Treo 750 with WM6 loaded were being taken down by eBay due to Plam complaints (the same way the ROM was taken from here).
With AT&T ROM 1.62 out now, I seem to be left a bit confused. We have all seen the WM 6.1 ROMs floating around on the site, but that leaves me wondering why AT&T did not upgrade to WM 6.1 considering that there are working WM6.1 ROMs available for the Kaiser.
So, what then is the story on these ROMs? Are the WM 6.1 ROMs lacking in the bug fixes that are contained within the 1.62 ROM, or are the WM 6.1 ROMs some kind of HTC internal beta ROM (and therefore not without bugs)? It just seems a bit bizarre that AT&T didn't use the opportunity to upgrade to WM 6.1.
Nothing odd about it. 1.62 was an AT&T release that was finalized & slated for release at about the same time the device was release to public by AT&T. Frequently companies such as HTC are pressured to release a device ASAP & will do so even with some issues, as long as it passes the network testing. ALthough the devices are accepted by AT&T & are released the task of fixing the known issues continue.
Just like when you bought your XP computer. There were tons of security issues. You still wanted XP & companies still wanted to sell it to you. Now years later, you have a heavily patched XP OS due to all the updates.
This is basically what the 1.62 update is. Patches for small issue that they knew about, but that weren't significant enough to postpone the release date.
WM6.1 has been around for a while. It's not ready for primetime though. When you see a post touting the WM6.1 as "Official" that is intended to let you know that it is from an official or trusted anonymous source with inside knowledge or access.
If you've been following the WM6.1 threads, you know that WM6.1 will not work very well without tweaking & fixes being cooked in. It was only recently given to the operators for testing & will take some time to pass OEM & then Operator testing.
Currently, WM has also finished WM6.5 prototypes, WM6.6 is intended to be the final stepping stone before Photon or WM7.
I would say that it will be 4 - 6 months before an operator released 6.1 is available. After that you will see maybe some minor fixes & patches & then in about 12 - 18 months wm6.5. (WM6.5 if compatible with the Kaiser will be here before the of course) So maybe you'll see some cooked 6.5 ROM's within the next 12 months.
Everything in technology comes in steps. A lot of what you find here has already been in development for AT LEAST 6 months to a year. These update (AKU) are MS fixes, that then have to go to OEM's for testing & application of the OAL (OEM Adaptaion Layer) for new devices, &/or then to the operators such as AT&T for further testing & deployment. (which as of late has been defered to HTC)
WM6.1 is close, & some of the cooked versions are excelent, Sleuth comes to mind, but the ROM chef's here do not have the testing & protocol restrictions that the OEM development teams are faced with. (That said, I believe that those teams also lack the skill & creativity of XDA's finest as well)
Hope this is the right place to ask this.
Will both these devices be running on WM 6.5 out of the box or just the Firestone?
I ask because I have seen conflicting reports on this.
I am told that even if the Touch Pro doesn't come with 6.5 it will be offered as an upgrade by HTC as soon as 6.5 is available?
I never got a Touch HD in the end or X1 because I saw 6.5 was on the way & thought I would wait for that & if I am going to get a HTC device I want to know 6.5 will be in the equation.
Your information is correct. If 6.5 comes out before the new phone, the phone will contain 6.5. If the new phone comes out first then it will contain 6.1 and an upgrade will be available.
While I have yet to see a definitive list, the general concensus is the phones that were released in the last year or so Raphael, Diamond , Blackstone, et.al, will have an upgrade to 6.5 available from HTC, the older Touchs, Kaiser, Titan Mogul, will not have 6.5 updates avaiable.
But around here does it really matter what HTC or the carriers choose to make available ?
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Your information is correct. If 6.5 comes out before the new phone, the phone will contain 6.5. If the new phone comes out first then it will contain 6.1 and an upgrade will be available.
While I have yet to see a definitive list, the general concensus is the phones that were released in the last year or so Raphael, Diamond , Blackstone, et.al, will have an upgrade to 6.5 available from HTC, the older Touchs, Kaiser, Titan Mogul, will not have 6.5 updates avaiable.
But around here does it really matter what HTC or the carriers choose to make available ?
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That's interesting to hear as I thought they weren't going to offer 6.5 for devices such as the Touch HD. Be interesting to see if 6.1 and 6.5 devices released in 2008/2009 will be able to be upgraded to WM 7.
While HTC's profits lie in selling new phones and there is no profit in supporting older phones, there is a certain PR standard that has to be maintained. I should think that to not offer an upgrade for a phone that was released less that a year ago ( Blackstone ) wouldn't sit well with many customers and potential buyers.
But as I said, around here it is a rather moot point as I was running a 6.1 rom well before 6.1 came out, and have been running 6.5 for over a month, well that is until M$ issued their cease and desist order, at which point I complied and immediately downgraded to 6.1.
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While HTC's profits lie in selling new phones and there is no profit in supporting older phones, there is a certain PR standard that has to be maintained. I should think that to not offer an upgrade for a phone that was released less that a year ago ( Blackstone ) wouldn't sit well with many customers and potential buyers.
But as I said, around here it is a rather moot point as I was running a 6.1 rom well before 6.1 came out, and have been running 6.5 for over a month, well that is until M$ issued their cease and desist order, at which point I complied and immediately downgraded to 6.1.
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We have all probable seen the pictures of how WM 6.5 differs as far as the UI is concerned by how different is it 'under-the-hood' so too speak?
WIth the Tilt 2 and WM 6.5 coming will the Fuze see an upgrade or will it be only for the Tilt 2?
Good question, but highly unlikely.
AT&T has already released a new rom for the Fuze with several fixes over 6 months ago. I'd be really amazed if they do offer a 6.5 rom for the Fuze. Though in all reality, i still fail to see why people stick with an oem 6.1 rom when 6.5 has so many improvements.
rumor has it that they're not going to give the upgrade for fuze owners. You'll have to deal with the cooked roms, (which i think really rocks, especially NRG's rom). People don't like trying new things and it's also about the big change from 6.1 to 6.5 which require a slight learning curve. but if you're here, then you're willing to learn.. i hope.
Agreed, huge NRGrom fan here, the latest release (genesis) is really nice!
you'd be quite happy with it - there is not much to fear about cooking. So long as you can have activesync connected to your phone for 10 minutes without interruption for the hardspl and rom install, you're golden (translation, don't try with activesync 3.0 or something really old that may not be reliable)
I personally REALLY like the new start menu for windows 6.5 - especially on newer builds where you can click and hold to move around programs
You will definitely not regret installing a cooked rom (again, my personal vote for newbs goes for EnergyROM)
rumours that AT&T is upgrading samsung jet & epix to wm6.5.
There are changes that fuze will be upgraded too.
whyhon said:
rumours that AT&T is upgrading samsung jet & epix to wm6.5.
There are changes that fuze will be upgraded too.
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Does anybody know of a date yet?
Seeing as how 6.5 is not officially to be released until october 6'th when the windows marketplace goes live, we'll see how long after that so AT&T can 'customize' the experience / Butcher the hell out of the rom.
I have a good feeling as soon as 6.5 comes out we are going to see a LOT more people hate their oem rom's.
i really really doubt there will be a 6.5 upgrade. to get an official rom approved, it requires the check off of the manufacturer (htc) and carrier (att) and maybe microsoft, im not really sure about them and winmo licensing to devices. but it would be easier to only focus on the newest devices. if you really want 6.5 they would prefer you buy a new device with it. ive been running 6.5 on my fuze for forever. it rtm'd in may so thats the real "release date" of 6.5. you dont buy windows mobile so dont focus on dates. new builds come out everday since forever. itll be interesting to see what htc does with 6.5 cause the new builds are ugly. for some reason microsoft decided to "improve" the interface without consulting on htc's design brilliance but whatever. we will see.
Does anyone know if you can install a cooked rom using Vista or Windows 7? I don't have access to a WinXP box right now.
Thanks
of course you can. theres no real difference. i have both vista and 7 for cooking. just right click and click run as administrator.
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...Though in all reality, i still fail to see why people stick with an oem 6.1 rom when 6.5 has so many improvements.
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Really? Seriously? Granted, there are "under the hood" improvements but the UI is a bad joke.
How did it happen that MS can't even line up a grid of icons on a rectangular screen?
I'll tell you how. The artistiicly inclined design folks missed a meeting, and a geek with a slide rule explained how there would be more area for your fat thumb if icons were arranged in a "honycombed" grid.
This absurdity never got caught in time. Too late. Can't change it now. Wait for WM7.
Remember this whenever you look at your device.
Just my opinion. Doesn't matter. Some will be happy with whatever slop MS ships.
Sorry. I couldn't resist.
hi,
recently one of my friend give me at&t fuze of following Specification
ROM=1.95.502.5 WWE
Radio=1.02.25.32
now need help to upgrade the rom and radio,
i tried latest TAEL rom but it is giving me error.
can u suggest me any idea...
thanks in advance..
suraj
Good Evening all!! My TP2 for sprint is on the way (hopefully tomorrow but possibly monday)! I have been out of the upgrading game for a few years now. I am coming from a mogul and even in the last year I haven't done anything to that because I felt like I have explored everything in the previous few years. Will anyone point me in the direction of some good links? I feel like I am starting all over with this whole process. anyway... where do I begin? I've been looking for stickies for sprint unlocking but it seems even the basic terms are beyond me....PLEASE HELP!!!
P. S. I formerly used and loved DCDs' ROMs.....what out now is similar to those?
Hi, welcome back to XDA. Seems like you enjoy custom ROMs and personalizing your phone. Everything you need will be in this forum because we use CDMA phones. Seeing as how you are probably going to use a custom ROM, you will first want to check out the Hard SPL thread here.
Once again it is very important to make sure you download CDMA versions as the GSM version can possibly brick your device. The same goes for downloading custom ROMs, which i suggest you download from PPC Geek's CDMA TP2 upgrades.
Below is the configuration that I use. To review different benchmarks on some different custom roms check out the PPC geeks ROM Showdown.
Best of luck with your device and always remember, if you don't know, READ IT AGAIN. If you still don't know, Search the forums. If you still don't know ask one of the experts here
thanks you very much for your response. i'm going to begin "studying" tonight. My TP2 is scheduled to be here before 3 on Monday (so excited). is it all everybody thought it would be and more? I've been out of the upgrading scene for years
hey, i recently did the same thing (upgrade from mogul to TP2)
as burtonsnow linked, HSPL is stickied in this forum
personally i use NRG's rom (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=86489)
i used to use DCD because it was lightweight, but the TP2 doesnt have the same RAM issues as the mogul, so i found i can indulge in a rom with some more eye candy
anyway, hope you like the TP2, im loving mine all my iphone fanboy/girl friends who thought my mogul was "nice, but not as good as an iphone" nearly **** themselves when they say my TP2 (they all want one now lol)
radios and such
is there a list of what radios work best with certain roms (and works well with gps)? when i had the mogul i used to use garmin mobile xt...is that the best program to use for the TP2?
i dont think there is as big a selection of radio roms for the TP2, ive really only seen the sprint stock radio around
i use TomTom on both mogul and TP2, so i cant comment on garmin