Just wondering if anyone has any similar experience: I have configured my personal mailbox on my Vox using IMAP4. In the Account Settings under Advanced Settings for the Sending options I selected "When deleting messages: keep them on the server".
Strangely that is exactly what does NOT happen - messages ARE deleted from the server
Any ideas anyone? Is there a registry setting that I should be looking at?
many thanks!
1. Messaging's IMAP handling is pretty much messed up, even in WM6. Use an alternative, IMAP-capable app not having this problem. For example, give a try to FlexMail.
(I'll also re-check this problem and accordingly update my IMAP Bible to reflect WM6 and Smartphone-related issues.)
2. Moving the thread to General because Messaging bugs are common to all Smartphones.
Thank you
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Hello Everyone,
I have a T-Mobile USA SDA and had a problem with emails on the device.
Not sure if it is working as designed or if there was a blug, so I thought I would float it by you guys.
Setup:
Mail client on T-Mobile USA SDA
Configured manually to check pop and send smtp with my gmail account. It is set such that the message headers are downloaded first.
I connect WIFI and send/recieve
I receive a header I had sent myself for testing
I click on it and select to download the message body.
I go back to the inbox.
I do send and receive.
I receive the message body.
I read it.
I go back to the inbox.
I do send and recieve.
Result:
The message is removed without a trace. it is not put into deleted items folder, nor does it remain in the inbox folder.
Is this expected behavior? I am not allowed to store mail on my device? Is there a registry setting to change this behavior? There is no options within the application. Is there a registry setting to change wheremails are stored in general? thanks for seeing the barrage of questions!
Yes I got the same result with you. Mine is a Dopod 577w (Tornado in Taiwan). This behaviour also happens to other mail servers.
ni hao,
I had searched a bit about it and found some places explain it. The explanation sounds weak, but it looks like something we will have to live with until either gmail or ms changes their server or client software.
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Sat, Mar 4 2006 7:24 am
The problem is with the default behaviour of Gmail - it will "hide" all the
already-downloaded mail. Unfortunately, it seems not even now that the beta
phase is long over can you effectively override this behaviour - the POP3
radio buttons just don't stick in the Settings window.
Therefore, the best solution IMHO is switching to an alternative e-mail
client that doesn't remove the messages that are not available online any
more from the local view. The alternative mailer clients FlexMail and Qmail
are like so - see the row "Does it only display mail that is still on the
server? " in the comparison chart of my mailer client roundup at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1 . Of the two,
FlexMail offers scheduling capabilities.
PocketPC MAG:
Does it only display mail that is still on the server? : one of the most-criticized problems with Messaging is that it does not show older messages (messages that have been deleted in the meantime) in the Inbox unless you explicitly (mass-)move them to a separate folder. As can be seen, it's, in addition to Messaging, only nPOPw that deletes the messages from the local view that don't exist on the server any more. The other mailer applications don't.
I might just write a pop/smtp client software myself. Much easier to tweak it to do what I need it to do, and in my previous job I worked for an email client so I know those protocols well. I probably won't add advanced functionality or IMAP/Exchange, because I have no individual use for those.
Very Useful info.
My current solution to this issue is Outlook & ActiveSync. Just download your mail to PC and sync. Mail in mobile Outlook account will not disappear unless you delete them.
By the way, I think Gmail mobile website is also okay for mail browsing & composing.
(it is not a good experience posting reply here using Pocket IE)
I'd like to write a mail client using .NET CF just for fun if I have time. I'm not a C++ guy.
I love my Hermes but it falls seriously short in one area: I am unable to take full advantage of my Tuffmail hosted IMAP mail functionality (eg multiple folders, each with its own email address). From what I read about Chattermail on the Treo/Palm OS platform it seems to be a much better IMAP mail client than the built in WM5 Messaging application because it supports IMAP IDLE and (very important) allows you to send from multiple email addresses intuitively. I have been trying FlexMail 2007 as an alternative but find it so unreliable and such a memory hog that it is a chore just keeping it running.
Query: Has anyone figured out a way to hack the WM5 Messaging application so that it is possible to change the Sent From email address easily without having to reconfigure the account each time? What I am currently doing with FlexMail is using only one email account linked to my IMAP server but changing the From address as required by using DinarSoft TapText to type in the right Display Name and email address with a single keystroke. My preference would be to go back to WM5 Messaging if I can figure out an easy way to change the From account when I compose a message.
Thoughts?
Edit: Another acceptable workaround would be to create send-only accounts within the WM Messaging application. Unfortunately there is no Send All command (only Send and Receive), and garbage incoming mail servers results in an error message before any message is sent. Other suggestions would be welcome.
I would also like to know this. I host my own webserver, and use it with multiple emails, all of which go to the same account:
[email protected]
[email protected] etc all go to my main mailbox, which i sync through directpush to the phone.
What I want is to be able to hit "from" and change it to "[email protected]" or "[email protected]" or whatever, depending on who I am emailing.
I am also running a Hermes with WM5, and using the core outlook email client software.
Any ideas?
I currently have a Palm Treo 800w (running Windows Mobile 6.1 and running on Sprint's network) that I am using with Exchange ActiveSync from SherWeb (which is running Exchange Server 2007). I have it set up to synchronize my email, tasks, calendar, and contacts. However, I've begun to notice a major issue - things are not synchronizing correctly. When I initially set up the Exchange ActiveSync, it seemed to sync everything correctly, but since then I've noticed that data (mostly contents of the notes field in both appointments and contacts) are missing. It seems this occurs when I update a contact or appointment with new data (but it also seems to potentially occur in other situations as well). The data seems to stay correct and current on the Exchange Server (when I access it via OWA or Outlook), but the notes field for that particular contact or appointment becomes blank on the Treo 800w. Further, I've noticed that, in at least one case, it failed to update the appointment subject/title when I made the change in Outlook.
Another thing I've noticed is that the Exchange Activesync doesn't always seem to occur when it should. I created a test appointment in Outlook with a subject, location, and notes, and then when it sync'ed over to my Treo via Exchange activesync, there were no notes at all. I then tried adding notes to the blank notes field in the test appointment on the Treo, and it didn't sync at all. I did a manual sync, but it still said nothing had changed. I then changed the subject/title of the appointment, and no automatic sync occurred once more. I did a manual sync, and this time it changed the subject/title of the appointment in Outlook, and overwrote the appointment notes in Outlook with the appointment notes from the Treo 800w. Finally, I deleted the appointment fromt he Treo, and it still didn't automatically sync this deletion to the Exchange server (and Outlook). I had to manually sync it.
I've made a couple of registry hacks to the device, as well as installing a good deal of 3rd party programs, but I can't necessarily see how any of those would cause this weird issue to occur. The only registry hack I made that might indirectly affect this issue is:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync]
"BodyTruncation"=dword:00005000
(this was a change to allow more data to be saved in the appropriate notes/body fields before being truncated - I was noticing that a lot of my tasks, contacts, and appointments in which I had a lot of data in the notes/body field were being truncated and I was not able to access all of that data - this was intended to allow more data to come over in the sync so I could access it).
Could this be something that's wrong with the Exchange server? or the hosted Exchange provider (SherWeb)? Or is it an issue with my device? Or perhaps a bug?
Obviously, this is a real problem for me, since if the Exchange Activesync doesn't work correctly, the device becomes much less useful. However, I want to try avoiding a hard reset since I've spent a lot of time configuring and setting up the Treo to suit my needs.
Any help, assistance, or advice is greatly appreciated?
P.S. I'm wondering if this could at all be related to the other issue I'm having with my Treo 800w:
the other issue is that when I have an IMAP account (which is pulling its IMAP data from an Exchange 2003 server since I can't set up a second Exchange activesync session on my Treo) set up in the messaging application on my Treo and I specify it should synchronize the sent items folder, and then I send something from my Treo using this account, it briefly appears in the sent items folder after being sent, then disappears, and is no longer anywhere (including on the actual Exchange server itself - I go and check the sent items folder via Outlook and OWA and its gone from there as well) - if I don't synchronize the sent items folder, then the item correctly appears in the Sent Items folder on the Exchange server itself, but I obviously can't access it from my Treo which is what I wanted to be able to do in the first place
More Information Available At: http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=173482
Same Issue
Hello,
i have the same issue with rapahel (NRG ROM).
did u get answers ?
that in advance.
Hey guys,
Intersting problem this, to which i will have to give more thought, but my initial thoughts below.
I do not think it is an exchange issue, it will be more than likely the reg edits you have changed or a 3rd party app, it is bizzare how some non related apps hinder oem software.
I use outlook exchange daily and also have gmail pushed to my phone (imap) so i know that this is probably not the problem. As for your sent items, have you set ur device to save a copy of sent items?
Do you have a good backup software such as sprite backup? In past porblems like this i have done a full backup inc settings & reg etc. Then done a hard reset, set up the email accounts and exchange to ensure that the vital companents work properly.
After that, install an app at a time, syncing regularly and repeat, you know the score.
Did you back up ur reg before making changes? If so, backup your current reg, and then revert back to the original one. This should tell you if its the reg or a 3rd party app.
Let me know how you get on and i will give this some more thought.
Cheers.
My Fuze auto configures for yahoo and goes to a imap.mail.yahoo.com server, it works like an IMAP champ.
I then configure my Outlook for the same settings and I keep getting the UserName/Password entry box. I know I have the settings the same as the phone and the correct username/password.
Any tips? Imap for my Yahoo would be awesome on Outlook.
I am kind of answering my own question here. Looks like Imap Yahoo has a way to verify an id of the device type before it allows connection. So apparently wm6.1 mail app sends what it needs to Yahoo Imap Mobile but Outlook does not.
Damn, I was looking at doing that as well. I hope they open it up!
Hi,
Surely there must be a way to fake this via Outlook, anyone?
Not that I have ever found. I made a full conversion over to Gmail as a result and low and behold it was a huge pain in the ass and I now have to monitor two email addresses.
Hey,
Thanks for the reply. From what I understand, Yahoo servers require a specific, but non-standard IMAP command to be sent before login is done. The command is: “ID ("GUID" "1")”. Rumor is that its easy to modify the client to send it. Mutt and Mozilla Thunderbird already have a modded version. Furthermore, YPOPSs! and FreePOPs also use this command.
Can anyone provide some insight as to how we would go about modifying the connection string Outlook uses?
I guess this would be similar to configuring your browser to present itself as a different client - something that is very easily done.
Thanks!
I would also strongly appreciate a solution for this...
Somehow it should be possible to make "desktop Outlook" behave like its mobile counterpart. At least as an option...
I have found this on the web describing the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail#Free_IMAP_and_SMTPs_access
Does someone know how to incorporate the sending of the described ID string into Outlook as well as it seems to be present in the mobile version??
jean-luc said:
I would also strongly appreciate a solution for this...
Somehow it should be possible to make "desktop Outlook" behave like its mobile counterpart. At least as an option...
I have found this on the web describing the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail#Free_IMAP_and_SMTPs_access
Does someone know how to incorporate the sending of the described ID string into Outlook as well as it seems to be present in the mobile version??
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Actually Yahoo IMAP does not recognize ur phone/pc..
If u want it to use on pc pl make sure that u selected download only headers option then only it wroks
jean-luc said:
I would also strongly appreciate a solution for this...
Somehow it should be possible to make "desktop Outlook" behave like its mobile counterpart. At least as an option...
I have found this on the web describing the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail#Free_IMAP_and_SMTPs_access
Does someone know how to incorporate the sending of the described ID string into Outlook as well as it seems to be present in the mobile version??
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ok .
psolunke said:
Actually Yahoo IMAP does not recognize ur phone/pc..
If u want it to use on pc pl make sure that u selected download only headers option then only it wroks
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This is NOT true. I have tried downloading only headers and still the same problem: On the PC Outlook fails to connect correctly to the IMAP server due to the problem described on the page I have linked to above.
With mobile Outlook on the phone downloading headers as well as content via IMAP works perfectly.
I agree with Jean Luc. When using a mobile device to access the Yahoo IMAP server, any and all options work as they should. However, when using Outlook via non-mobile computer, it doesn't work.
Clearly Yahoo has implemented a filter on the connection string Outlook is sending to prevent users from using IMAP. I believe the fix should be relatively easy. Can anyone provide some insight on this?
jean-luc said:
This is NOT true. I have tried downloading only headers and still the same problem: On the PC Outlook fails to connect correctly to the IMAP server due to the problem described on the page I have linked to above.
With mobile Outlook on the phone downloading headers as well as content via IMAP works perfectly.
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bump from the ages for a damn solution!
MS Technical info found...need help applying
Just happened to be searching more generally for this myself today for my desktop Outlook having got used to IMAP on my WM6.5.3 Energy ROM and wanting better that 'leave mail for x days' POP3 options (Specifically I want my desktop sent items to sync up to Yahoo mail like then do when sending from my phone so in and out boxes are all in 1 place)
Found this MS Technical info page that seems to give all the info needed on how to get Outlook to send custom properties, it's just I don't have enough knowledge of RegEditing to get this right ;(
Changes to custom properties in Outlook - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907985
Scroll down to just over half way on the page and start reading from 'Not recommended: Use the AllowNamedProps registry key'
That suggests you can edit your CurrentUser registry values to permanently send pre values as part of each recieve something along:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\AllowedNamedProps\{00020329-0000-0000-C000-000000000046} "Kind"=dword:00000000 "ID"=dword:00000001
???
Although I presume that the {000...00046} GUID is Machine or User specific and that's the bit I'm not sure what to set for my install, think I worked out the other bits.
Anyone with better Windows Registry knowledge able to help out?
Found working Yahoo IMAP 'incoming' proxy
In my continued searches I came across the following IMAP proxy which acts between Outlook and Yahoo to insert the necessary GUID 1 string as part of it's call to Yahoo's server, and would do that same for any other IMAP capable client at http://www.ameir.net/blog/archives/43-Yahoo!-Mail-IMAP-Proxy.html
Using the Windows download of this tool on Windows 7 with Outlook 2003 (Odd combination I know!) I was able to get Yahoo IMAP email and all folders to appear within Outlook where I thought I was onto a real winner!
Unfortunately it looks like either the proxy or my setup didn't fully support 2 way IMAP as I wasn't able to drag any local email up into the IMAP account as I should have been able to do.
It did however allow me to pull down server copies of Sent items from both Yahoo Webmail 'Sent' and WM Device 'Sent Items' folders and just drag and drop them into my normal Outlook default Sent Items so those were all together again.
Setup was pretty simple for what I got working:
1) Download and unzip the file in the Windows archive from that page above
2) Run the .exe included with those extracted files to open a DOS window running the proxy
3) In Outlook configure a new IMAP email account but set incoming IMAP to 'localhost' then in advanced settings make sure incoming port is 3490. Setup all other fields as you'd normally expect and with Yahoo normal SMTP server address.
4) Outlook will add a new tree for that account in left hand 'Mail Folders' view, just click around and explore. If no sub folders appear right click on root and choose 'Update Folders'
Hope that helps someone, and as code for this proxy is open source maybe someone could work out how to embed this customisation direct within Outlook so IMAP should then work fully 2 way?
Will keep my fingers crossed someone with suitable skills sees this thread as would really like to move into an IMAP world now I know how much better than POP3 it is!!!
A special thanks to Howshall for the research!
I have tried adding those registry entries in an effort to get Outlook to send the custom command, but it doesn't seem to be sending it when looking at the outgoing packets. Can anyone offer some insight? Thanks.
Main issue is regarding current inbox mail being deleted upon next send/receive.
This is a well documented problem but is there any real solutions rather than workarounds.
My old WM2003SE had the download size option box with the header option which was a great way of overcoming this problem.
Now the wise Micro$osft engineers have removed the ability to set download size when opting for header setting in WM6.1 !
Can this be hacked ?
I like the UI of Pocket Outlook & do not want to use other mail client software.
I also do not want to forward mail to other addresses, nor use the gmail "recent" mode.
Option I'm trying at the moment is Pocket Outlook Mail Organizer, this allows me to set rules for gmail accounts on Pocket Outlook & move the gmail inbox mail to another folder after downloading.
This is a workaround but quite a tidy one.
Anyone developing other software to help in this issue or have good advise ?
Thanks,
Purely personally i use the IMAP setup for gmail. If this is what you are referring to as "recent" mode then it has obviously been discounted. If not then have a look it may be what you are after.
Most Gmail users are going for IMAP setup due to the conflict between Pocket Outlook & Gmails smart server software when using POP3.
I prefer the old POP3 setup, for my circumstances it's the best option but does not function correctly due to conflicting smart software.
The Pocket Outlook Mail organizer solves my problem at the moment but what i'm really looking for is a hack to implement size settings to "download header only" option in WM6.1 Pocket Outlook. I hate it when micro$oft go backwards rather than forwards with development !
Oh how I wish I studied software engineering rather than mechanical engineering !