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The WIKI Ideas/Suggestion Thread

Hi,
Next to making ROMs I want to try and work on the wiki some more to make it THE prophet information source on basic questions.
I made this thread for users to suggest stuff that they think should be covered.
This is NOT a thread for asking questions about your prophet.
Thanks

Hi Jester
Wiki forums has pros and cons. Reading 20 pages of mixed text is not by far the best way to learn anything, the main problem for me is to distingish good info from bad one.
The 'Expert Selection': For each thread I would like to see only what an expert/senior member has selected. This filter can be multiple and tematic; the same 'expert' can select only some posts an 'rename' the sub-thread; and of course the same thread could be filtered by two or more members.
This way i can have the same point of view of them, and this is important for me..

Hi Jester,
Thanks for the big support on the Prophet and releasing ROM versions!
In the Forums there are many questions about how to upgrade your (for example) Dutch ROM to a WWE, what to do, maybe this is also something to add to the Wiki.
The Wiki side sould be rich of information about how to upgrade the ROM, what are usefull programms, free or payed, where does ipl and SPL stand for, What are the latest versions.
Groet,
TheTeek

Hi Jesterz,
Thanks a ton for your ROMs and your efforts!
One of the most eagerly sought after info is ROM editing specifically for G4 roms (specially again for Prophet).
Can you help in consolidating the tools (along with usage tips) to modify ROMs to achieve the following:
1. Steps to upgrade only the OS to whichever ROM OS you want.
2. Steps to increase the pagepool to X [I understand the device runs faster on an increased pagepool], but I am not sure of the ideal size to be kept. I got some details from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283280&highlight=pagepool
4. Steps to remove MS Office, voice dial and other applications from the rom and add a few apps. Will also need help in adding few apps like resco explorer and some registry hacks into the ROM.
5. Steps to move some programs from programs to system (for e.g smsdeliveryfix)
Am sure others can also add to this request.
Thanks.

Hi Jesterz,
thanks for this thread, I beleve there are a lot of stupid questions because a lot of information in the wiki are too much generic and the people have fear to make some errors (IS NOT YOUR FAULT because the newbie are sometime very newbie).
My dream wiki is:
- more specific
- with new information
For example, if you check the main procedure to update the rom, there are some step not very clear:
1) ***
If it states: "Could not update itsutils.dll to the current version, maybe it is in use ?" Do the following :
Copy the cab's from the Utils folder in the Lokiwiz03a.zip file to your Prophet and execute them.
(There are two files : "Cert_SPCS.cab" and "EnableRapi.cab")
This is not clear. A lot of user wrote me in private asking if you need to do a soft reset (or no, or an hard reset) after that.
2) ***
Sometime after that the itsutils.dll error is still alive. What the people have to do?
3)***
In some rom, you don't have to unlock the cid... right? But this is not on the wiki.
4) ***
There are some question where there are not answer, like this one in the ROM DUMPT.
"if you want backup your own rom, you have to do the unlock cid procedure and update the rom with another one. But if you do that you lost your own rom!!! So, why there is a Dump rom procedure, if you can not do that with your original one?"
5) ***
I would lik see in the wiky a tread with the list of the BEST ROM and the update.
6) ***
There are some etc...

I think what would be a *very* good piece of info for newbies is what are all the tools you guys use (cert.cab, etc etc....) and what each does to some degree....
as a newb myself, I find it *very* daunting and very scary to see lots of stuff posted on the forums that say "How To: Copy fileA and fileB to device, run fileC.exe on computer, then execute fileD on device, then wait, and poof! you're done". I'd be nice to at least know that the heck each of the components are and the purpose (even if it's very technical) of each one.
Also, if it's possible, list off any interdependencies these tools have. There are too many "half-instructions" floating around and it's really difficult to determine whether the user needs to do anything before hand before following the instructions.
*lastely*, Can we get a guide that lists off all the pros and cons for each of the custom ROMs that are getting posted. It's a little tough for newbies to know what are all the pros and cons for each ROM. Yes, we know there are pros and cons and nothings perfect, but *what* are the bugs? and what are the features? At least that way we can decide for ourselves whether or not the ROM will work for us...
I'm only into day 2 of all of this so I apologize if what I'm suggesting sounds stupid.
Thanks

Hello all,
Jesterz, thanks you for your investisment in the forum.
Some suggestions about the wiki.
One of the main issues for upgrading a rom is to have a clear view of what is going on.
There are many threads discussing different roms.
It should be grateful to have one main page giving an overview of every live rom and a page for each rom where the author can put a link and also give the current status of his rom and known issues. So I join to Mr Yellow for this.
It should be something very basic, not as far as an Issue tracking page (ie http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MPA)
By now, whenever I want to update a rom, I have to read the entire post...
One solution can be, for each cooking rom version, adding a text file that describe everything to know.
Of course, a howto for cooking rom and useful mistakes can be also interesting.
cheers
Andre

Hi Guys - and yes, thanks for all the time & investment made here.
I'm a fairly new member, and one thing I think would benefit the WIKI is an idiots guide or introduction.
I found the the wiki a bit tricky in so much that it starts at a fairly high level and misses the basics
Whats an AKU and why might I prefer a new one ?
What extra features can I get with a new rom ?
Why might I need newer radio drivers ?
Stuff like that.
Also, a glossary would go down reall well.
JJ

doublej said:
Hi Guys - and yes, thanks for all the time & investment made here.
I'm a fairly new member, and one thing I think would benefit the WIKI is an idiots guide or introduction.
I found the the wiki a bit tricky in so much that it starts at a fairly high level and misses the basics
Whats an AKU and why might I prefer a new one ?
What extra features can I get with a new rom ?
Why might I need newer radio drivers ?
Stuff like that.
Also, a glossary would go down reall well.
JJ
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I agree with the above......more of a beginner area with more explaination
Not an idiot guide but something more for the leaner who want to be experts like most here

Get to it
I think these are all great suggestions. The Prophet wiki is looking pretty sparse at the moment. So why doesn't everyone start editing it, rather than just talking about it?
Cheers,
uayeb

Hello
read it !
agree!

Shall i make a tutorial for changing the case? I know there is one already in another forum(modaco). But i want one on xda-developers?

the more the merrier!

I think possibly the most useful thing would be 'How to recover Prophet stuck in Bootloader'. I seem to telling people how to do it most days and sometimes more than once a day...
I'll happily write a 'How To' if required.

l3v5y said:
I think possibly the most useful thing would be 'How to recover Prophet stuck in Bootloader'. I seem to telling people how to do it most days and sometimes more than once a day...
I'll happily write a 'How To' if required.
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You know, that's what's awesome about the wiki... you *CAN* go ahead and write whatever you want. It only takes like 5-10 minutes to understand the syntax of wiki-code... create a new page, write your stuff down, and start formatting. Bam, you've created a wiki page that everyone can use. Announce to the fourm that you've done so and you're done!
Then you can start insulting newbies that complain about getting stuck in boot loader that they should search and read the wiki! It feels really good!

mr_yellow said:
You know, that's what's awesome about the wiki... you *CAN* go ahead and write whatever you want. It only takes like 5-10 minutes to understand the syntax of wiki-code... create a new page, write your stuff down, and start formatting. Bam, you've created a wiki page that everyone can use. Announce to the fourm that you've done so and you're done!
Then you can start insulting newbies that complain about getting stuck in boot loader that they should search and read the wiki! It feels really good!
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But how can I get it uploaded?

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But how can I get it uploaded?
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You don't upload anything. You can edit each page like it was a forum post. there's special syntax for lists, bullet points, headlines, links etc... but if you want to create a page, all you need is a title and that's it. Everything is done on the serverside.
The easiest way to start is to pick a page, click the edit button at the bottom, then add a new link to a page using the syntax [new page title]. when you save it, "new page title" becomes a link to a new page where you can create a new page and add more content there.
Give it a shot. Don't be afraid to break stuff.. you can always look back on old versions of the page and reverse any changes.

Pallas said:
Shall i make a tutorial for changing the case? I know there is one already in another forum(modaco). But i want one on xda-developers?
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I second this!!! I've been looking at the modaco 1, & feel we need to have 1 from xda dev & Pallas is the man... heheh

mr_yellow said:
You don't upload anything. You can edit each page like it was a forum post. there's special syntax for lists, bullet points, headlines, links etc... but if you want to create a page, all you need is a title and that's it. Everything is done on the serverside.
The easiest way to start is to pick a page, click the edit button at the bottom, then add a new link to a page using the syntax [new page title]. when you save it, "new page title" becomes a link to a new page where you can create a new page and add more content there.
Give it a shot. Don't be afraid to break stuff.. you can always look back on old versions of the page and reverse any changes.
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Breaking stuff can be fun I'll give it a try now...

l3v5y said:
Breaking stuff can be fun I'll give it a try now...
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Good Luck!

Wiki redesign

hey guys,
I'm a regular on the HTC tytn part of this board and have been quite active in updating the wiki and making it functional.
I thought i'd wonder over to this board and took a look at the wiki and have to admit, was sort of shocked. it's one enormous page that's not very intuitive!
I'm going to shift around some stuff to make the wiki for your device easier to browse and navigate, would love for you guys to help out with this venture!
I've started with this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=wizard_WM_6
WM6 definitely deserves a page of its own, complete with download links, links to threads etc. it does not deserve to be in the middle of some enormous page where most people can't even see it! it's linked back to the main wiki page under the contents page, which is easier to follow.
suggestions welcome, and please help in overhauling the poor state of the wizard's wiki!!
cheers

I don't know about others here in this forum, but I think you're doing us all a huge favor. Good start on the Wizard WM6 material so far.

Hi!
Ofcourse great job. I've learn from this site
I need to suggest to put some information about Not Big Deal 5.1.
I think, this rom is realy good. Realy. Not many ppl use it, but almost all of my friends that tried this rom, confirmed, that it's very ok.

You should probably rename the page to reflect the device it is for. The current name implicates it is a general WM6 page - which is not in fact.

Chatty said:
You should probably rename the page to reflect the device it is for. The current name implicates it is a general WM6 page - which is not in fact.
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awesome suggestion, silly of me. i've renamed the page to wizard_wm_6

I've updated the Wiki (Thanks for setting this up) with information and download links to my Crossbow Released rom.
Also I would like to make an observation... I disagree with the description of The Core, in that it says this is the best rom for Newbies (or thats how I read it)... Since this is a Clean / "core" rom, I don't know that I would call this a good general starting rom for someone new. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying The Core 2.0 isn't good, I'm just saying the claim that its the best rom for newbies is maybe misleading as many newbies want more than just a base rom. XPlore 1.1 (IMO) is actually a better rom for someone just starting out as it comes with some apps in it. Then Wizard Mobile 6 Business Edition is very nice with the set of apps in it too... Its just all of the roms have strengths and weaknesses, so to me calling a single rom the best for Newbies may be misleading. Let them choose what fits for them (or setup some type of Matrix to compare the roms).
BTW: This isn't criticism of this new WiKi page at all? I just wanting to provide feedback so this can become a valuable resource for the Wizard community (and I really appreciate you starting this project for us. Now I need to get back to working on the WM6 Cooking wiki pages I was setting up)

mfrazzz - good point. there should be no "favouring" of roms, it should be up to the end user to decide.
I've removed the whole best rom bit. let the person choose themselves

!!!! Final ULTIMATE - No Bugs HTC Universal WM6 ROM!!!!

The FINAL ABSOLUTE NO BUGS HTC Universal WM6 ROM
Sorry - had to split it into 3 parts - webserver has a bit of a bug...
Here are the parts:
http://vidmes.com/Uni/final/part1
http://vidmes.com/Uni/final/part2
http://vidmes.com/Uni/final/part3
ENJOY!

Now that you have opened the links in the above post you will have the 3 most important pages\tools in the Xda Dev Forums..
In case you don't know what they are, the links go to:
Midget_1990's announcement (on the top of this section of the forum) <<< Read the announcement carefully
The Wiki (Click on the picture of the Universal to go to the Universal section)
Searching Xda Dev via Google (a bit better than the forum's search tool)
(and if you didn't click on the links - do so!)
How to's
Installing a ROM
Grab the ROM. Usual places are:
Xda Dev FTP's Uploads (Username:xda Password:xda)
TehPenguin's Mirror
RapidShare
WM-Gurus (You need to be a member - DO NOT sign up unless you ARE a guru...)
Read the ROM's ReadMe file (if it has one)
Install the latest version of ActiveSync on your computer
Disconnect your Universal
Get your Universal into Bootloader mode (I'll let you search the wiki for that...)
Connect your Universal (and allow new drivers to install (XP will complain, but just hit 'Continue'))
Follow the instructions that came with the ROM (you don't need to Soft Reset or get into bootloader - we've already done that)
Submitting a Bug Report
Ensure that you have tested every possible fix (Remember: This is a DEVELOPMENT community...)
Search for other fixes or tweaks that you could try (on the wiki, in other sections of the forum)
Find the correct thread (for the ROM version you are using, or the type of bug)
Give as much details as possible. Such as:
Type of Universal (JasJar, Exec, Dopod, etc)
The nature of the bug - being descriptive (ask yourself: "Will people understand what I am saying?")
Any software on your Universal that may be cause the error (or you believe is involved)
If the bug involves your PC (eg syncing issues) - The OS (XP, Vista, Linux(??)) that the PC is running and any software that may be involved (eg ActiveSync Version xx, Office 2003, etc)
Exceptions: If it is a common bug, over different ROMs, then you are permitted to create a new thread (eg for the Bluetooth headsets malfunctioning...)
Dealing with n00bs
BE POLITE (they may, one day, grow into contributing members... or even developers!)
Find the correct answer to their question (keep reading... it gets better)
DO NOT GIVE THEM DIRECT LINKS
Give them the link to the search page with the results. Why?
They will learn how to spot a relevant result
They will learn correct search terms
It prevents them from becoming lazy
If the result is hard to spot, give them a clue (eg it contains the words "Attachements: bubblefixV2.cab")
Encourage them to learn and share their knowledge (such that they will learn the pain of n00b questions)
Insert a link to this thread, shouting the praises of the "Ultimate, Bug Free" Rom you found...
Extra information / FAQ
Will this ROM work on my iPaq x2932/Asus 454323/Nokia 5110/etc...
NO! This is the forum for the HTC Universal - rebranded as the O2 Xda Exec, I-Mate JasJar, Dopod 900, QTek 9000, etc - The ROMs are specific for these devices and will not work (without serious hacking) on any other device!
I tried flashing - now my Universal doesn't work!!
Reset it in bootloader (hold power + backlight button, now press the reset button), try to resinstall the ROM with my instructions above. If this fails, try a different ROM, if that fails - search the forums
I are tri instl bt hedset 4 mms... no work... fail!... plz help? not work? k thnx
WHAT???? Firstly, SPEAK ENGLISH! Exceptions are made for those who don't speak english as a first language - but this is a forum, not MSN or IRC, so t-a-k-e y-o-u-r t-i-m-e and construct logical sentences. This gives a good impression on those who may help you and makes it easier for non-english speakers (and sometimes those that do speak english) to understand what is going on
My installation of Obscure-Pocket-App-Noone-Has-Heard-Of-Before(TM) doesn't work!
Welcome to the world of upgrading. Try to see if the company has produced a new version, or if there is an alternative. Otherwise downgrade back to WM5...
Finally - if you read nothing else, at least read this:
This a forum of Developers - all things on here are Betas and are (no offence to the find people that make them) full of bugs
If you require a stable device stick to the latest WM5 official release from your provider
Also, upgrading the firmware to a non-official version voids the warranty - SO BEWARE THE RISKS AND USE ROMS CAREFULLY
- And one last thing: Welcome to the Xda-Developers forum!!
(ps. I make no apologise - those that are experienced enough not to need to read this should be happy to see it exists, those that are inexperienced need to read this anyhow)
(pps. Just some stats: at the time of posting Midget's announcement had just over 800 views, whereas the ROM threads had (much) more than 20 000 each - this is just one justification for this post)

thanks. good info.

The final ultimate, finally has videocall?

teixeirabmb said:
The final ultimate, finally has videocall?
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omfg. a sad day for human intelligence.

[edit:
wrote something, but nevermind ]

This all seems a little cruel...
"http://vidmes.com/Uni/final/"
Can you explain:
"There is no cabal
"This is not a file
"Hail Eris!"
?

why the links can not work
why the links can not work

FAKE????
is this a fake??? even final roms still have bugs!!!
what build number does it have??? did you get it from HTC directly?

markymanxxx said:
This all seems a little cruel...
"http://vidmes.com/Uni/final/"
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"Cruel" is some of the n00b questions that we have to put up with (just have a look at THIS thread - the number of people that believe that the ROM is real!)
markymanxxx said:
Can you explain:
"There is no cabal
"This is not a file
"Hail Eris!"
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No, I will not explain - but you're welcome to PM me with your guesses
(ps. If you do know the answer(s), don't spoil it for everyone else!)

very funny
I'm spending much of time in this forum...such jokes should be done somewhere else!!!!!!! thanks for your understanding!

chico83 said:
I'm spending much of time in this forum...such jokes should be done somewhere else!!!!!!! thanks for your understanding!
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This is not a joke - it is SERIOUS
Do realise that, in the last hour, Midget's announcement has gained 10% of its total views. This is quite impressive as that last hour constitutes a mere 0.2% of the time it has existed.
Personally I believe that this thread is quite a success...

Midget_1990 said:
omfg. a sad day for human intelligence.
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YES! Because of this topic! I thought xda is a place where such 'jokes' are removed!

Are you boring TehPenguin?
Pero este tio es gilipollas o que?

Final
@TehPenguin
@Midget_1990
Even if you have a official release it doesn't say it's bugs free
For sample: Why does Windows needs to be updated otherwise?
Cheers,
Leo

i dont see any link to the "ultimate rom" . this is indeed a joke on all those poor fellas coming in looking to get the so called wm6 final bug free rom.

Please help me!!!
After flashing my Universal with this ROM, my coffeemaker stopped working and my refrigerator keeps rebooting!

TehPenguin said:
The FINAL ABSOLUTE NO BUGS HTC Universal WM6 ROM
Sorry - had to split it into 3 parts - webserver has a bit of a bug...
Here are the parts:
http://vidmes.com/Uni/final/part1
http://vidmes.com/Uni/final/part2
http://vidmes.com/Uni/final/part3
ENJOY!
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@ TehPenguin
Are you in advertising ?
As I understand, most if not all rom makers enjoy the attention and maybe even adoration they receive.
This, to me is proven by "handing" out their work and asking for replies, in an open forum community.
Therefore they could / should also expect some very silly noob questions.
(I think even the rommakers were ones Noobs themselves)
Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate the marvelous work they do, and they deserve every praise they get for that.
But please don't wine.
Greetings,
Wout

WRaymond said:
After flashing my Universal with this ROM, my coffeemaker stopped working and my refrigerator keeps rebooting!
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re set
your house on fire
problem solved

kchris said:
YES! Because of this topic! I thought xda is a place where such 'jokes' are removed!
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And now the topic is sticky !

In need of help.

I have just got a 8925 but i want to add some roms to it: ultimate launch, pocket cm, ifonz, & iphone interface. I am not sure of the best way to do this. Should they be added all at the same time, or do i have to add them one by one? Also i am not sure how to unlock the phone so that I can add these apps to the device. I have searched the forums and I haven't found a tutorial for this.
Any ideas?

Take a better look...
This is the first post on the ROM area.
Everything you need is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383904

Rom's
These are not rom's ....these are programs.....Rom's ....is changing the software inside your phone...what you are asking , you can find them reading the WIKI. the programs you listed are cab. files.......read the wiki
Peace
mike

I'd go back a stage further - read lots, starting with our forum rules. Don't post the same simple question in 2 or 3 forums - it DOES get you noticed, but pisses off other members who have to read your un-researched drivel twice.

Rom OP Format...DEVS READ PLEASE

Below is a format that should be used as an example of how a rom thread should look. It doesnt have to be exact. I suggest that you stay creative and use all the features in the advanced panel when creating a thread.
1. Name of rom, team, etc
2. Introduction
3. Changelog in code or php tags
4. What's included in the rom in the (apps, tweaks, scripts, addons, mods) in code of php tags
5. What works/what doesn't work in code or php tags
6. Credits (Users name-with link to (profile/github/or thread u got tweak from embedded), and what they did to help you)
7. Screenshots (2-10 different screenshots of different aspects of rom)
8. Kernel with either link to thread you got it from or github (if stock sense or cm please state that and that is enough)
9. Instructions on how to install the rom (also if special instruction for a2sd or beats audio...etc)
10. Do's and Don'ts of the rom
11. Questions & Answers section (I find this helpful to write out asked questions with solutions at the bottom of the op. I find that it cuts down on the question being asked a million times)
12. Finally the dl link
13. Additional add-ons (this can go into first post or reserved posts after)
I find the embedded link looks and feels better throughout the op if possible.
All sections should have a header with enlarged text and spaced out so people can read it easily.
I am hoping that this helps to make this section a little cleaner and easier. enjoy
The way I look at this is that it takes US weeks/days/hours to make these roms....we can take the time out to make sure that the op looks professional and clean
Also Make sure the op is fully ready before posting. I know we all get excited to release a rom but stating that half the stuff will be updated as time permits just shows that you are lazy and in a hurry which doesnt look good cause if thats the case then how does your rom run....
No posting a a rom thread without a DL link either

Thanks Papa Smurf151 i think everyone who is getting ready to post a rom should be redirected here!
sorry if im not allowed to post here, so please delete my comment if needed

i left this open for feedback

How about how stable it is like in the old days?
I remember last year everyone would label them as beta, RC, final etc.

bennyboy78 said:
How about how stable it is like in the old days?
I remember last year everyone would label them as beta, RC, final etc.
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I think what Papa Smurf outlined in the OP is more then enough and it covers the basics while keeping the majority of the threads uniformed or at least try to
I also don't think we should start being over critical here and require individuals that start threads in the development section to add labels like Alpha, Beta, MC, RC or whatever.
I understand that having labels would make things a whole lot easier for the user BUT it also doesn't encourage the user to read about what he or she flashes onto their phone.
I don't know how many times I've seen a user complain and harass developers over something that was clearly their (the user) fault because they didn't read the OP. They saw fancy screenshots and saw the download link and either ended up bricking their phone or causing their phone to turn into a hot pocket...lol
Not trying to tell people how to do their job BUT I think we should encourage users to read/search more not shortcut things for users.

Mazda said:
I think what Papa Smurf outlined in the OP is more then enough and it covers the basics while keeping the majority of the threads uniformed or at least try to
I also don't think we should start being over critical here and require individuals that start threads in the development section to add labels like Alpha, Beta, MC, RC or whatever.
I understand that having labels would make things a whole lot easier for the user BUT it also doesn't encourage the user to read about what he or she flashes onto their phone.
I don't know how many times I've seen a user complain and harass developers over something that was clearly their (the user) fault because they didn't read the OP. They saw fancy screenshots and saw the download link and either ended up bricking their phone or causing their phone to turn into a hot pocket...lol
Not trying to tell people how to do their job BUT I think we should encourage users to read/search more not shortcut things for users.
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Well said, couldn't agree any more.

MBQsniper said:
Well said, couldn't agree any more.
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See I assumed this was common sense and ROMs that are missing a lot of these details, I don't give the time of day too so those ROMs don't matter to me. Because in my mind all the good ROM's out there already follow this in some way shape or form.
I appreciate what you did but I don't see why we need it is all.

As long as these are only guidelines and not enforceable rules, I agree with them. But I wouldn't agree with deleting/locking threads that fail to follow these guidelines; that would send the wrong message to developers.

v5HMeca said:
As long as these are only guidelines and not enforceable rules, I agree with them. But I wouldn't agree with deleting/locking threads that fail to follow these guidelines; that would send the wrong message to developers.
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Rom threads will never be locked or deleted for not following these guidelines. I would hope devs would embrace them and if a fellow dev isn't then I would hope someone would point them here and try to help them. Most rom devs want to have a nice looking op. But some of them are new and don't know better or are very young and don't know better. This just helps to give structure that they can refer to and say oh yeah maybe I should have that or this.
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Cherokee4Life said:
See I assumed this was common sense and ROMs that are missing a lot of these details, I don't give the time of day too so those ROMs don't matter to me. Because in my mind all the good ROM's out there already follow this in some way shape or form.
I appreciate what you did but I don't see why we need it is all.
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What?