This is just a theory and should work, i havnt tested it myself cuz i dont live near a starbucks but as u guys remember att was offering free wifi access to iphone users, well it just so happen that we as WM owners have the power to change our Broswer String just like u would on a PC.
Here are the steps: -
Open Opera
type Opera:config *note* remove "http://"
scroll down till you see "User Agent" and click it
change Spoof UserAgent ID to 3
lower down should be "User Prefs" click that
and scroll down till you see "Custom User-Agent"
*NOTE* make sure and back up ur orginal string so u can change i back later or else all website you visit will be in iphone format and formated for the iphone screen
now change your "Custom User-Agent" to this -
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Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/1A543a Safari/419.3
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save your settings and connect to the att wifi within your location
for the iphone section on getting into the wifi you will need to follow the instructions on HERE its at the bottom
like i said before i havnt tested this myself but the logic of the idea should work as the WiFi DNS server should see your device as a iphone and not a HTC Touch Pro.
If anyone has tested this post back here if it works or doesnt
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work great! Thanks
Free WiFi while i eat
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work great! Thanks
Free WiFi while i eat
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np great news that it does
Does it continue to recognize your device if you return to the same location without the IPhone layout?
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scroll down till you see "User Agent" and click it
change Spoof UserAgent ID to 3
lower down should be "User Prefs" click that
and scroll down till you see "Custom User-Agent"
now change your "Custom User-Agent" to this -
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Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/1A543a Safari/419.3
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i found this change to also be helpful for viewing web pages that are rendered better for the iPhone - for example Google Calendar looks much better on the iPhone than other handsets. spoofing the user-agent let's me see just what an iPhone does. very nice.
ya there are a few sites that streams also great for the iphone but i cant get it to work on windows mobile
Would it be possible to build a cab to make this change when needed and then switch back when done? Kind of like the Hidden Proxy cabs on the ATT phones...
not sure since am not a dev but would be a cool idea
I have a data plan but if you just use the Iris browser this may do the same trick...everything in Iris thinks I have an iPhone and looks all iPhony...sort of nice sort of annoying but the ID has to be something along the same lines as the iPhone (probably since they are both based on WebKit).
hmm i tested this out and it didnt work everysite i went to was the iphone version(the ones that had iphone versions i mean) but when i connected to att wifi it asked me to log in with an account it didnt say anything about putting in my number or the iphone.
HTC-P4600/1.2 Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
Just like to put that there so incase you forgot what it was or the default didn't work to put back the default Custom User-Agent value.
ya, it would be a good idea for some of you guys that use this little trick to copy that user string and save it in note pad, so that you may copy and paste it back later when you need to
Very cool, haven't tested yet, this is a great excuse to take a trip down to Starbucks ;-) hmhmhm
Thx!
Kewlj1313
I thought that you were supposed to get ATT wifi for the price you pay for the data plan unlimited...No?
I have not had a reason to use it, but I thought it was included.
I will probably go back since I can't get the google search page to load properly using this custom user agent. :-(
Worked for me yesterday, I tested it in a Chipotle next to a Starbucks!
Changing my Useragent back today though, too many pages think I am an iPhone and don't load properly or just obnoxiously slow.
Hi Guys ... maybe someone can help me
I tried the Hero Rom and it installed just fine and worked like a charm. My problem is now that my mobile provider renderes its "mobile portal" based on parts of the user agent string and for a not compatible one (actually one that is not in their portfolio) it shows an error ... so I would need a switch of the hero user agent which is:
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.5; de-de; HTC Hero ... and so on to:
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.5; de-de; HTC Magic Build/CUPCAKE) AppleWebKit/528.5+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Mobile Safari/525.20.1
which is the original Magic one.
Does anyone know how to manage this? -> maybe it could be just a small .apk file which when installed changes the user agent or just an entry in some config file?
Thanks Chris
If your operator supports the iPhone the following might help you :
Type: "about:debug" in the browser's adress bar.
It seems that nothing happened but when you go to the browser settings and scroll all the way down, you will see that the last option is "UAString".
There you can set the user-agent to iPhone.
or... install the Steel browser (can be found in Market) and has settings to change to iPhone or 'normal' web browser user agent.
... unfortunately not
thanks guys ... but my provider neither supports the iPhone nor a standard web browser string will do.
i need to set a completely different one
Hi guys, I have a small problem and I am hoping someone can help me a little. Basicly what happened is after updating to mango I was unable to open my work webpages. I work as a flight attendant and I have 2 webpages from work that I must check everyday (company mail and flight schedual). Before updating to mango they worked without problems. I know my company website has some problem with the certificate but never the less it used to work but now after the update they dont work anymore... I enter username and password and I can only see blank page and the loading bar (coloured line) stay at about 90% for a while and after a while it reaches 100% but nothing happens. My phone is a LG optimus 7. one of the pages is: HTTPS :// oword dot airitaly dot it/
Any help would be much appreciated. Best regards.
I suggest you rollback to NoDo for now.
It could be a bug or it be that the website is incompatible with Internet Explorer 9.
The problem is similar to one I have found with the Scandinavian Airlines mobile internet site and appears to be caused by the User-Agent String of IE9 reporting:
Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows Phone OS 7.5; Trident/5.0; IEMobile/9.0; <manufacturer>; <model> [;<operator])
The previous versions reported:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows Phone OS 7.5; Trident/3.1; IEMobile/7.0; <manufacturer>; <model> [;<operator])
I think this is the issue. There are several pages that work in IE9 on a PC but fail when the mobile browser UA is used.
Could any suggest a tool or trick that could shift the UA in Windows Phone 7 in a similar way to that which is possible in the desktop version using the F12 tools?
An app that switched between Mozilla/4.0 and Mozilla/5.0 would be very useful...
Do none of the optional browsers use flags that would cause a page to display properly?
John
Hi
i've got a question for you :
on any android device, when you want to view a website in "desktop mode", all you have to do, is to change the "user agent" and, et voila, it works. All website are now in "desktop mode".
I would like to do the same on my surface, but, permanently ! I don't want to, everytime, go to "f12" menu and change the user agent to chrome or firefox.
On other forums, peoples told me : "oh you cant, it is a server side problems, all website are not "well coded". and blablabla...."
but i know it's wrong, because i do it, time to time, with the "f12" option. and i know it is possible on android device. (so the problem comes from the surface, which identificate itself as a mobile or "arm" device...)
so my question is : how do I do to change the user agent on the surface, and permanently. i know i have to deal with the "gpedit.msc" and change it here....but for some websites, it is still recognise as a tablet device and then, a mobile website. Which user agent I must use ? (when i do it from time to time with the "f12" option, I use the "chrome or firefox" string, and it works well).
ps : sorry for my english, not my mother tongue.
I've used Surface RT for months without ever being redirected to a mobile website... not sure what's up with your experience. A few sites have recognized the RT/ARM portion, but the page was not notably different; certainly it looked nothing like what I get on my phone's Mobile mode.
You can use Compatibility mode to send the IE7 user-agent string to a given site. Hardly a perfect fix, especially if the site would like to use HTML5, but I don't know a better option.
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I've used Surface RT for months without ever being redirected to a mobile website... not sure what's up with your experience. A few sites have recognized the RT/ARM portion, but the page was not notably different; certainly it looked nothing like what I get on my phone's Mobile mode.
You can use Compatibility mode to send the IE7 user-agent string to a given site. Hardly a perfect fix, especially if the site would like to use HTML5, but I don't know a better option.
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hi
thks for your answer
What i don't understand, is that we can manually change the user agent (and then view the website in a "normal mode") by pressing f12, and choose another browser, and it works perfectly. All websites are in 'desktop mode". So why can't we do that automatically? i don't want to do that each time i visit a website. I want it done once for all !
The surface identificate itself to a RT/arm device and that's why websites redirect automatically to a mobile version.
Is there anyway to remove this identification, and make sure the surface is always recognize as a "desktop" computer ?
There used to be a registry hack that would override the default user-agent string, though I don't know if it still works with IE10. Browser plugins can do it, but those aren't going to be available on RT.
As for what string to change it to, I'd suggest just the default UA string for Win8/IE10 on x86 or x64. You can find this using sites like useragentstring.com. For the record, mine is
Code:
Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; Trident/6.0)
and if you drop the "WOW64; " part, it's identical to the x86 one.
Same here...
It would be great a solution for IE reconize always as "Desktop mode" without need F12 changing procedure.
I use www.bet365.com and it´s always reconigzed as mobile
I recognize that this issue is really with Chrome and not specific to my Nexus 5, so if this should have been posted elsewhere instead, my apologies in advance.
The problem -
I am finding that increasingly Chrome's "request desktop version" option is unable to get me out of mobile site versions. When the site doesn't have its own mechanism for changing between the two, this glitch can become annoying.
I know that site designers probably have a role in breaking this functionality, but at the same time, it seems to me that all browsers must be able to appear as a desktop if they really want to, because browsers determine what header information / system specs to communicate to the site. So why are there an increasing number of sites where I can't escape the mobile version using this menu item in Chrome?
In the past, I've solved this by using Dolphin, set permanently to desktop mode. However, a couple problems with this work-around exist:
- I've now run into sites that even Dolphin can't force to go desktop version.
- I don't particularly like Dolphin, and it's a pain to switch to it for one-off uses.
Any thoughts?
It seems like a great idea to make a browser whose sole selling point is that it returns the exact system / browser info that a vanilla desktop browser would, and provides no indication to the website that it's a mobile device. There are just so many sites with horrible mobile versions
rhd-android said:
I recognize that this issue is really with Chrome and not specific to my Nexus 5, so if this should have been posted elsewhere instead, my apologies in advance.
The problem -
I am finding that increasingly Chrome's "request desktop version" option is unable to get me out of mobile site versions. When the site doesn't have its own mechanism for changing between the two, this glitch can become annoying.
I know that site designers probably have a role in breaking this functionality, but at the same time, it seems to me that all browsers must be able to appear as a desktop if they really want to, because browsers determine what header information / system specs to communicate to the site. So why are there an increasing number of sites where I can't escape the mobile version using this menu item in Chrome?
In the past, I've solved this by using Dolphin, set permanently to desktop mode. However, a couple problems with this work-around exist:
- I've now run into sites that even Dolphin can't force to go desktop version.
- I don't particularly like Dolphin, and it's a pain to switch to it for one-off uses.
Any thoughts?
It seems like a great idea to make a browser whose sole selling point is that it returns the exact system / browser info that a vanilla desktop browser would, and provides no indication to the website that it's a mobile device. There are just so many sites with horrible mobile versions
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From my experience, this is because sites are basing which site to display on the resolution of the device rather than the user agent. In the case of the N5, whether you have Desktop mode or Phone mode enabled, you're still reporting a 1080x1920 resolution (note the order). No desktop computer will have a screen width of 1080px (desktop monitor in portrait notwithstanding) thus it concludes you're on a 1080p mobile, therefore mobile website for you!
it is utterly infuriating and I share your pain...
Is there a site we can test that on? Flip to landscape...
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Is there a site we can test that on? Flip to landscape...
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Engadget is an example, and flipping to landscape doesn't solve it.
So it must be detecting something other than screen resolution and user agent.
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Engadget is an example, and flipping to landscape doesn't solve it.
So it must be detecting something other than screen resolution and user agent.
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probably detecting the OS and forcing it that way.
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Engadget is an example, and flipping to landscape doesn't solve it.
So it must be detecting something other than screen resolution and user agent.
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Yeah I found engadget and npr.org in another thread and landscape didn't fix it. Maybe as @Zepius says
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Yeah I found engadget and npr.org in another thread and landscape didn't fix it. Maybe as @Zepius says
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looking at engadget's source, they use the service optimizely. which looks to be a website optimizer for mobile. i bet it checks the OS to determine how to display the webpage.
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looking at engadget's source, they use the service optimizely. which looks to be a website optimizer for mobile. i bet it checks the OS to determine how to display the webpage.
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Maybe this is a silly question, but why can't the browser lie about that too?
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Maybe this is a silly question, but why can't the browser lie about that too?
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because its querying the system every time there is a request for the OS.
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because its querying the system every time there is a request for the OS.
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Sorry, I should have phrased that differently, my response wasn't very clear -
If Chrome actually wanted to "request desktop version" feature to works, wouldn't they want to tell websites that the OS was Windows? In other words, if "request desktop version" spoofs in a user agent from a desktop browser, why wouldn't that feature also spoof the OS when asked by the website?
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Sorry, I should have phrased that differently, my response wasn't very clear -
If Chrome actually wanted to "request desktop version" feature to works, wouldn't they want to tell websites that the OS was Windows? In other words, if "request desktop version" spoofs in a user agent from a desktop browser, why wouldn't that feature also spoof the OS when asked by the website?
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because thats not the way the app is coded. the websites are hard coded to ignore user agents (i believe) and to go based on the OS to tell if its mobile or desktop. you would need a browser or a mod to fake the OS name/version.
Well. In reality, websites can't really determine that you're using Android as chrome removes this information when you're using the "desktop version" checkbox. Here's an exemple of the useragent sent by chrome with/out the checkbox :
Without the "show desktop version" : Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 4.4.2; Nexus 5 Build/KOT49H) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/35.0.1916.117 Mobile Safari/537.36
With the "show desktop version" : Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/35.0.1916.117 Safari/537.36
On a real chrome desktop (windows) : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/35.0.1916.114 Safari/537.36
So, there's not really any information (just the Windows NT 6.1) that could say to the website is they need to show a mobile version of their website.
Maybe the website is coded to adjust itselft automaticaly to the screen resolution (responsive design) or, maybe they just put a cookie when you go on the website without the "show desktop version" and, when you enable it, cookie is still present, and they continue to display the mobile version ? (So, try to clean cookies, etc, before checking the box )
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Well. In reality, websites can't really determine that you're using Android as chrome removes this information when you're using the "desktop version" checkbox. Here's an exemple of the useragent sent by chrome with/out the checkbox :
Without the "show desktop version" : Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 4.4.2; Nexus 5 Build/KOT49H) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/35.0.1916.117 Mobile Safari/537.36
With the "show desktop version" : Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/35.0.1916.117 Safari/537.36
On a real chrome desktop (windows) : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/35.0.1916.114 Safari/537.36
So, there's not really any information (just the Windows NT 6.1) that could say to the website is they need to show a mobile version of their website.
Maybe the website is coded to adjust itselft automaticaly to the screen resolution (responsive design) or, maybe they just put a cookie when you go on the website without the "show desktop version" and, when you enable it, cookie is still present, and they continue to display the mobile version ? (So, try to clean cookies, etc, before checking the box )
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I cleared cookies - that didn't help.
In fact, I also just tried an app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appo2.ua
It launches an instance of Chrome with the user-agent already changed (no clicking "request desktop version" required). I launched an instance as IE 10. I went to a user agent site to confirm that the UA was changed (in fact, I already felt pretty confident because the google search results were full desktop size/scale). UA was confirmed. Cleared all cookies, cache. Set my phone to landscape. Visited engadged by typing the ULR fresh (not a bookmark or anything). Boom, still goes to the mobile version
Doing some googling, I ran into some techniques for detecting mobile browsers. I'm betting that Engadget (and others where this occurs are using a CSS based technique similar to #5 or #6 here:
http://designm.ag/resources/8-techniques-for-mobile-retina-devices-detection/
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I cleared cookies - that didn't help.
In fact, I also just tried an app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appo2.ua
It launches an instance of Chrome with the user-agent already changed (no clicking "request desktop version" required). I launched an instance as IE 10. I went to a user agent site to confirm that the UA was changed (in fact, I already felt pretty confident because the google search results were full desktop size/scale). UA was confirmed. Cleared all cookies, cache. Set my phone to landscape. Visited engadged by typing the ULR fresh (not a bookmark or anything). Boom, still goes to the mobile version
Doing some googling, I ran into some techniques for detecting mobile browsers. I'm betting that Engadget (and others where this occurs are using a CSS based technique similar to #5 or #6 here:
http://designm.ag/resources/8-techniques-for-mobile-retina-devices-detection/
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Hm.. What's the exact URL of the mobile version of the site you're redirected to ?
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Hm.. What's the exact URL of the mobile version of the site you're redirected to ?
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The URL just stays at the engaget root URL (www.engadget.com).
I've observed something interesting though. When I visit this site in Chrome on Android:
http://www.whatismybrowser.com/
... it actually lists a very low screen resolution (376 x 557)
On that basis, I can see why sites (engadget, etc) show the mobile version. The question is why Chrome would report a lower screen resolution.
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The URL just stays at the engaget root URL (www.engadget.com).
I've observed something interesting though. When I visit this site in Chrome on Android:
http://www.whatismybrowser.com/
... it actually lists a very low screen resolution (376 x 557)
On that basis, I can see why sites (engadget, etc) show the mobile version. The question is why Chrome would report a lower screen resolution.
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Well, chrome doesn't seems to send the information itself. Maybe a JS script detect it. 'Gonna check that
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Yep, whatismybrowser.com detects screen size with a bit of JS
Not sure that we can change it even on a real desktop browser..
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So, of course, engadget.com too.
It detects screen resolution changes and adapt his style to the resolution. You can check it easily pen the page on a real desktop browser and resize the windows of the browser : same style as mobile version.
And there's nothing we can do about that :/
can't even do a *about:debug* in the addy bar anymore..
when pressing go, chrome hits the web, with the addy bar reading chrome://debug/ -
check this out -
Brandon Arnold 4 months ago
With mobile first design you don’t need a site switcher, because it’s the same site. There’s nothing on the desktop layout that you don’t see on your mobile, but its better formatted for its screen. The Chrome option you're mentioning is a legacy thing, thats taking actual mobile sites (non-responsive) and requesting to remove the M-dot from the domain. This is necessary because most mobile sites offered a limited amount of content that differed from the desktop. Even the Google Chrome Responsive website, when viewed in the chrome mobile browser has that option to switch grayed out.
With that said, you can try some javascript solutions that change the viewport, like this one*
http://https://github.com/chrismorata/Responsive-View-Full-Site
*Note: This has not been tested with F5
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I know it's been asked before in the forum but he thread is closed so I can't add anything. I'm aware of Foundation's mobile first principle but it's not mobile ONLY.
Is there an elegant way to give people an option to view a desktop version?
Both Android's default browser and Google Chrome mobile has options in the menu so I don't think it's a minor feature.
...it stalemates there, with an added;
Thanks for your replies. I'll checkout the javascript solution posted above.
It's just that some users really prefer seeing what they're used to on a desktop. I know it's the same content but the truth is some visitors just want to see what they're used to.
.. looks like for now, android chrome has gotten a gnome d.e. thingy effect..