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[Q] internet explorer problem, please help

Hi guys, I have a small problem and I am hoping someone can help me a little. Basicly what happened is after updating to mango I was unable to open my work webpages. I work as a flight attendant and I have 2 webpages from work that I must check everyday (company mail and flight schedual). Before updating to mango they worked without problems. I know my company website has some problem with the certificate but never the less it used to work but now after the update they dont work anymore... I enter username and password and I can only see blank page and the loading bar (coloured line) stay at about 90% for a while and after a while it reaches 100% but nothing happens. My phone is a LG optimus 7. one of the pages is: HTTPS :// oword dot airitaly dot it/
Any help would be much appreciated. Best regards.

I suggest you rollback to NoDo for now.
It could be a bug or it be that the website is incompatible with Internet Explorer 9.

The problem is similar to one I have found with the Scandinavian Airlines mobile internet site and appears to be caused by the User-Agent String of IE9 reporting:
Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows Phone OS 7.5; Trident/5.0; IEMobile/9.0; <manufacturer>; <model> [;<operator])
The previous versions reported:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows Phone OS 7.5; Trident/3.1; IEMobile/7.0; <manufacturer>; <model> [;<operator])
I think this is the issue. There are several pages that work in IE9 on a PC but fail when the mobile browser UA is used.
Could any suggest a tool or trick that could shift the UA in Windows Phone 7 in a similar way to that which is possible in the desktop version using the F12 tools?
An app that switched between Mozilla/4.0 and Mozilla/5.0 would be very useful...
Do none of the optional browsers use flags that would cause a page to display properly?
John

WP7 Mobile sites not showing up?

So I try to access some sites and it sends me directly to a wap site or desktop version. Perfect example was m.facebook.com Old and ugly, someone on xda had mentioned touch.facebook.com What a world of a difference. Does anyone else have any other sites like this?
Another question. Engadget, kotaku, ext.... I use their mobile sites and it wont show the comment sections. I have to direct my self to the desktop version just to see it... Anyone know a work around to this? Thanks in advance.

Not sure if this is what you're asking, but I just leave my phone in desktop mode pretty constantly - the few sites that I wish were in mobile mode can be switched easily enough, and the number of sites which are broken in mobile mode seems to be greater than the number that are broken in desktop mode.
A good example of a site that just does *not* work right on WP7, due to the server over-sealously sniffing the user-agent (recognizing the phone browser even when IE is set to "Desktop" mode), is Gmail. The mobile site is buggy, and there's no way that I've found to force it to actually use the desktop site... so I end up using the plain HTML view if I have to use Gmail for anything beyond accessing my psersonal mail account (which is synced). There are a few other similarly poory-behaved sites.
One would hope that sites with a touch-optimized UI (as opposed to mobile-optimized, which typically just means minimal bandwidth and extremely dumbed-down code), such as touch.facebook.com, would auto-detect WP7 and send it to that site instead (especially if the user-agent is not set to Desktop mode).

queefinout said:
So I try to access some sites and it sends me directly to a wap site or desktop version. Perfect example was m.facebook.com Old and ugly, someone on xda had mentioned touch.facebook.com What a world of a difference. Does anyone else have any other sites like this?
Another question. Engadget, kotaku, ext.... I use their mobile sites and it wont show the comment sections. I have to direct my self to the desktop version just to see it... Anyone know a work around to this? Thanks in advance.
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well for engadget there is an app supports comments

Gmail Mobile HTML5 compatible with Windows Phone

So I have noticed that Google recently updated the mobile youtube version of their site and it is fully html5 capable like an app inside the browser...
the question is why does the html5 mobile version of gmail does not load up in the IE9 on Windows Phone Mango...when its fully capable of handling HTML5 ???
going to the mobile version simply loads up the generic mobile UI version of the site....any help ???

backlashsid said:
the question is why does the html5 mobile version of gmail does not load up in the IE9 on Windows Phone Mango...when its fully capable of handling HTML5 ???
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It's no where near "fully capable"..
Go here on your WP7 browser for proof: http://html5test.com
See how IE9 stacks up compared to other phone browsers (the results are poor): http://html5test.com/results-mobile.html.
It is possible that HTML5 Gmail site is using a feature that is not supported. It's also possible that like touch.facebook, they simply haven't enabled support for IE9 yet as they haven't tested it properly yet.

HTML5Test is not a good "benchmark". It verify only if the browser has been marked to support, not the way it has been supported

Aphasaic2002 said:
It's no where near "fully capable"..
Go here on your WP7 browser for proof: http://html5test.com
See how IE9 stacks up compared to other phone browsers (the results are poor): http://html5test.com/results-mobile.html.
It is possible that HTML5 Gmail site is using a feature that is not supported. It's also possible that like touch.facebook, they simply haven't enabled support for IE9 yet as they haven't tested it properly yet.
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well touch.facebook.com works perfectly fine and so does m.youtube.com which features a new HTML5 UI and support...its only Gmail and Google+ I am talking about.

dada051 said:
HTML5Test is not a good "benchmark". It verify only if the browser has been marked to support, not the way it has been supported
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agreed !!!!!!

Some websites that target WebKit, do not take advantage of the HTML5 / CSS that non webkit browsers do support, just because it is not WebKit, even if the browser supports another implementation of the style.
Normally, the issues are with experimental features.
In May of 2010, Microsoft was actually considering spoofing this, so sites targeting WebKit will render properly, despite the fact website developers did not do a good job at being cross browser compliant.
Here's a good link that explains it: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft...prefix-for-ie-mobile-for-windows-phone-7/6173
The problem is that webkit uses experimental css, but much is actually supported by IE. But, there is no corresponding -ie css specified.
This article gives some basic info: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/thebeebs/ar...-for-all-browsers-or-just-your-favourite.aspx
Here is an example of the css that targets specific browsers, but then also uses the general. It comes from here: http://felipe.wordpress.com/2012/02/02/a-proposal-to-drop-browser-vendor-prefixes/
Code:
#elem {
-moz-box-shadow: 0 0 10px gray;
-webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 10px gray;
-o-box-shadow: 0 0 10px gray;
-ms-box-shadow: 0 0 10px gray;
box-shadow: 0 0 10px gray;
}
Personally, I don't see a reason for IE to not handle -webkit prefixes.
If -webkit-box-shadow is specifed, but no -ms-box-shadow is specified, then treat the -webkit-box-shadow as -ms-box-shadow.
It is also possible that the server is not even supplying it, if the css supplied by the server is specific to the browser. Although most css, is just a file on theserver, it can be dynamically generated by the server or have fiel dynamically selected by the server. And the browser information that is sent to the server can be used to determine this.
There are toolkits out there for site development that basically makes your site only render properly on webkit browsers. Serious web developers should avoid these, since it creates more work to acually make a site that will render on all major browsers.
Again, the problems occur because of usage of experimental css and css that is not sent to non webkit browsers.

Excellent explanation @JVH3.
Mind you, it would also be nice if Microsoft had provided any way to change the user-agent string of the browser, beyond the "Desktop"/"Mobile" setting. It is a sad thing, but on the modern web having a user-agent switcher is being increasingly important.
Also, and possibly more relevant to the question, Google is absolutely atrocious about using non-standards-compliant HTML/CSS. Seriously, try sticking any of their sites into the W3C validator, and most will come up as totally broken. Instead of making a single cross-browser-compatible site, they code to specific quirks of Chrome first, Safari and other WebKit browsers second, Firefox third, and IE9 or Opera last or never. The official reason they do this is to minimize the amount of network bandwidth they use by taking advantage of various shorthand techniques that most browsers have, and not including browser-checks in the code they send (which increase the file size and therefore bandwidth). Unofficially, it feels an awful lot like a push to get people to use Chrome...

nice responses....makes sense...the only worry is when Google or other sites fix it as in making it cross platform and the same with every browser...be in html5 or webkit

surface and user agent to view webiste as "normal" and not mobile.

Hi
i've got a question for you :
on any android device, when you want to view a website in "desktop mode", all you have to do, is to change the "user agent" and, et voila, it works. All website are now in "desktop mode".
I would like to do the same on my surface, but, permanently ! I don't want to, everytime, go to "f12" menu and change the user agent to chrome or firefox.
On other forums, peoples told me : "oh you cant, it is a server side problems, all website are not "well coded". and blablabla...."
but i know it's wrong, because i do it, time to time, with the "f12" option. and i know it is possible on android device. (so the problem comes from the surface, which identificate itself as a mobile or "arm" device...)
so my question is : how do I do to change the user agent on the surface, and permanently. i know i have to deal with the "gpedit.msc" and change it here....but for some websites, it is still recognise as a tablet device and then, a mobile website. Which user agent I must use ? (when i do it from time to time with the "f12" option, I use the "chrome or firefox" string, and it works well).
ps : sorry for my english, not my mother tongue.

I've used Surface RT for months without ever being redirected to a mobile website... not sure what's up with your experience. A few sites have recognized the RT/ARM portion, but the page was not notably different; certainly it looked nothing like what I get on my phone's Mobile mode.
You can use Compatibility mode to send the IE7 user-agent string to a given site. Hardly a perfect fix, especially if the site would like to use HTML5, but I don't know a better option.

GoodDayToDie said:
I've used Surface RT for months without ever being redirected to a mobile website... not sure what's up with your experience. A few sites have recognized the RT/ARM portion, but the page was not notably different; certainly it looked nothing like what I get on my phone's Mobile mode.
You can use Compatibility mode to send the IE7 user-agent string to a given site. Hardly a perfect fix, especially if the site would like to use HTML5, but I don't know a better option.
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hi
thks for your answer
What i don't understand, is that we can manually change the user agent (and then view the website in a "normal mode") by pressing f12, and choose another browser, and it works perfectly. All websites are in 'desktop mode". So why can't we do that automatically? i don't want to do that each time i visit a website. I want it done once for all !
The surface identificate itself to a RT/arm device and that's why websites redirect automatically to a mobile version.
Is there anyway to remove this identification, and make sure the surface is always recognize as a "desktop" computer ?

There used to be a registry hack that would override the default user-agent string, though I don't know if it still works with IE10. Browser plugins can do it, but those aren't going to be available on RT.
As for what string to change it to, I'd suggest just the default UA string for Win8/IE10 on x86 or x64. You can find this using sites like useragentstring.com. For the record, mine is
Code:
Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; Trident/6.0)
and if you drop the "WOW64; " part, it's identical to the x86 one.

Same here...
It would be great a solution for IE reconize always as "Desktop mode" without need F12 changing procedure.
I use www.bet365.com and it´s always reconigzed as mobile

[Q] How To See Full Desktop Sites on Nexus5?

Some websites force mobile device users to the mobile version of their sites - whether they want it or not. In particular, engadget.com and npr.org. NPR.org blocks some features of their desktop site from phone and tablet users. They do not offer the desktop site to mobile users as an option. I have tried...
Different browsers: Chrome, Firefox, DolphinHD, Maxthon.
Changing the User Agent (Desktop UA or custom UAs).
Turning off JavaScript.
Turning off fit display to screen.
These work on most sites but not the two I mentioned (I'm sure others, as well).
Despite what I've tried, how does the site still know I'm using a (Nexus 5) smartphone?
And what can I do to spoof these sites so they let me have the full desktop version?
Thanks.

FredLeonard said:
Some websites force mobile device users to the mobile version of their sites - whether they want it or not. In particular, engadget.com and npr.org. NPR.org blocks some features of their desktop site from phone and tablet users. They do not offer the desktop site to mobile users as an option. I have tried...
Different browsers: Chrome, Firefox, DolphinHD, Maxthon.
Changing the User Agent (Desktop UA or custom UAs).
Turning off JavaScript.
Turning off fit display to screen.
These work on most sites but not the two I mentioned (I'm sure others, as well).
Despite what I've tried, how does the site still know I'm using a (Nexus 5) smartphone?
And what can I do to spoof these sites so they let me have the full desktop version?
Thanks.
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The closest experience to desktop is given by Puffin browser. Try it and see

aosp browser, enable the request desktop site.

Hi,
Desktop mod for these sites?

Thanks for your replies.
I tried Puffin and AOSP (set to request desktop site) on NPR and Engadget and they still gave me the mobile site. Both do have full desktop sites but apparently won't give them if they detect a phone or tablet (regardless of the User Agent string).
Besides the browser's user agent string, what other info is Android or Nexus 5 sending to websites to identify itself and how can I spoof the site into thinking I'm using a desktop.
In these attempts, I am using WiFi (my home network) and not the mobile phone data network.

FredLeonard said:
Thanks for your replies.
I tried Puffin and AOSP (set to request desktop site) on NPR and Engadget and they still gave me the mobile site. Both do have full desktop sites but apparently won't give them if they detect a phone or tablet (regardless of the User Agent string).
Besides the browser's user agent string, what other info is Android or Nexus 5 sending to websites to identify itself and how can I spoof the site into thinking I'm using a desktop.
In these attempts, I am using WiFi (my home network) and not the mobile phone data network.
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According to a web browser (Lightning Browser) Developer, (A.C.R. Development)
Some websites check the screen size of the device viewing the site and decide to show a mobile site or desktop site based on that, instead of solely relying on the user-agent string. – A.C.R.
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@A.C.R.Development would there be a way to fake a normal desktop screen size do you think?
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@xxxxx I don't think there is a way
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GUGUITOMTG4 said:
According to a web browser (Lightning Browser) Developer, (A.C.R. Development)
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Unfortunately, I think you're right. It appears sites are using CSS Media Queries to find out the screen size and using that information to decide which version of their sites to offer up. So far, I've found nothing that allows you to spoof or block media queries. I plan to try using TOR but for now that's my last shot.
For the record, I appreciate mobile sites and I can appreciate content may sometimes need to be truncated on mobile sites. Seems sort of arrogant for these sites to go out of their way to keep users from getting the full desktop site on mobile devices (both phones and tablets).
Thanks, again.