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A2DP Bluetooth Profile for existing MS BT stack?

Hello there!
I was seriously thinking about buying myself one of those Bluetooth stereo headsets. Unfortunately they need the A2DP Profile which isn't included in our present MS BT stack.
I have read a lot in this forum about transferring the Broadcomm/Widcomm stack - a guy even offered 200$ on success. Yet so far no success.
Now I was wondering if it would not be easier to add that profile to the existing stack somehow? By "somehow" I mean that I am not a programmer and havbe no clue how to do so on my own.
Any suggestions or help?
Cheers, <))><

Hey Guys!
At least a simple "No" or some reply would be nice. I can't imagine that I am the only one who looks for something like that

Well I just tried to find a thread for you over at Howard Forums but was not successful. Go over there there is a poster named "whtrbt7" he seems to know a bit on this subject.
Basically I believe the short answer is no.
I think we are a year or so away from getting true full stereo audio via A2DP Profile.
I'm no expert on this subject, but I believe there needs to be more consistance and control within the BT industry as a whole.

i just posted this link in another thread but maybe its useful to you:
http://www.send2press.com/newswire/2005-03-0311-002.shtml
iWALTZ enables multimedia mobile phones using MS Smartphone(R) and MS Pocket-PC Phone(R)-Edition to stream music over Bluetooth, seamlessly switch between music and voice calls, and display rich media related information on wireless accessories.
"Mobile phones are transforming to be the next generation multimedia devices," said K.Srikrishna, CEO of Impulsesoft. "iWALTZ enables this transformation by delivering an integrated Bluetooth audio experience and significantly reducing time to market for mobile phone OEMs. Impulsesoft is working with multiple mobile phone OEMs to deploy iWALTZ in their products that are launching in the first half of 2005."
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Maybe soon we we are able to get a2dp working on the magicians
Cheers,
Rainer

Cheers for the answer! I hope so too. Just installed the newest Widcomm Soft on my PC in order to give it "More Power" (Tim Allen from Home Improvement). Now I can't wait to make A2DP work somehow on our Magicians. It would be like Star Trek :wink:

Change the Microsoft Bluetooth stack to the Widcomm one!

You may have heard (particularly if you’ve been following my past articles) about the differences between the Microsoft Bluetooth stack coming with HTC Phone Edition devices and know its major shortcomings when compared to the major alternative, the Widcomm / Broadcom BT stack:
It lacks BT PAN (albeit the latest AKU3 has some basic support for BT PAN server functionality) support, which would be of high importance in, say, chatting / talking apps (for example, 4Talk or Microsoft Portrait or multiplayer games)
It, as far as versions prior to AKU3 are concerned, lacks support for BT FTP (see THIS ARTICLE for more info)
It has wildly inferior A2DP (stereo Bluetooth headphones) sound quality
No wonder a lot of people have been actively trying to “hack” the Widcomm BT stack on Pocket PC models initially coming with the Microsoft BT stack. Of them, the WM5-upgraded Dell Axim x50(v) and the x51(v) may already be known to you (I’ve also posted a lot on the project; see for example THIS).
Some weeks ago, well-known XDA-Developers hackers started to work on the port to HTC Phone Edition phones; for the most part, with success.
For the most part, you may ask? Yes, unfortunately, there still are problems; they are as follows:
Currently, it’s not possible to use traditional Bluetooth headsets for calling. Upon trying to connect to the headset, the PDA will just display an error message as can be seen in HERE. In the Hermes Widcomm developer thread, people are working on fixing this issue; so far, with little success. This will be a showstopper for many.
You won’t be able to use the PDA as a modem via Bluetooth (see my tutorial here) using either pre-AKU3 DUN or AKU3 Internet Sharing BT PAN. Also see this thread for my posts on this problem.
That is, if the lacking functionality is a showstopper for you, do NOT consider switching BT stacks as yet.
Model-specific tutorials / threads
Check them out for a discussion and / or a tutorial for installing the BT stack on your particular phone model:
HTC Wizard
HTC TyTN (Hermes) (my earlier report)
HTC Trinity: it seems it still doesn’t work at all (I’ve tried hacking very hard).
HTC Universal; well-known Pocket PC hacker and coder Helmi has just announced he’ll really soon release a working version even with headset support. I'll keep you posted.

it may sound silly, but does this stack appear in the uninstall list? so, am i able to remove it?
i'm asking because last time i changed my bt stack i ended up with my wizard being mute all the time. luckily i was able to restore my old bt version by uninstalling new one. so how is it with this one?

BTW, here's the Headset-enabled (!!!!) Universal BT stack hack: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1115973

banannq said:
it may sound silly, but does this stack appear in the uninstall list? so, am i able to remove it?
i'm asking because last time i changed my bt stack i ended up with my wizard being mute all the time. luckily i was able to restore my old bt version by uninstalling new one. so how is it with this one?
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Yes, it can be uninstalled - I haven't had any problems doing so on my Wizard and on the Trinity. Note that the Universal uninstallation is a bit more tricky.

banannq said:
it may sound silly, but does this stack appear in the uninstall list? so, am i able to remove it?
i'm asking because last time i changed my bt stack i ended up with my wizard being mute all the time. luckily i was able to restore my old bt version by uninstalling new one. so how is it with this one?
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Yes, it can be uninstalled - I haven't had any problems doing so on my Wizard and on the Trinity. Note that the Universal uninstallation is a bit more tricky.

VoIP Client for VOX?

Hello,
is there a way to use the VoIP WM6 embedded client with this smartphone? It seems that WM6 Standard (smartphone edition) does not come with VoIP support default. Does anyone know of a way to install VoIP client that comes with the PDA-version of WM6 (WM6 Professional)?
Thanks a lot, an answer would save me a lot of troubles,
Ionut

me to ...
Anyjoy anybody ??

have you tried to copy the relevant files?
which are mentioned int thread: {SOLVED} How to configure VoIP/SIP client in WM6.
in the \Windows directory:
*
* ipdialplan.xml
* dnsapi.dll
* voipphonecanvas.dll
* rtcdll.dll
or checked the registry, for any voip relevant entries,
maybe you only will have to set a registry and than it might work (e.g. like the gps component)
but i dont have a vox yet, im only guessing.
I think that vox doesnt support voip doesnt mean wm 6 standard doesnt support voip, it may mean that htc did not include the voip component.
other wm 6 standard smartphones might have it in the future.

its a posting related to the ppc version (since wm6 its called professional), i read that it should work properly even with a 200mhz wizard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950
it shouldn't have been removed from the standard (smartphone version)
regards
IRM

Some info on this:
I have used the WM6VoIP.cab posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303558 - post nr. 2, and although at the beginning it looked like nothing happened, after changing the Home default view (start/settings/home screen) to something else (not sure what i did and dont have the VOX anymore), Internet Calling appeared as a plugin.
Hope this helps anybody...

ionutz6 said:
Some info on this:
I have used the WM6VoIP.cab posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303558 - post nr. 2, and although at the beginning it looked like nothing happened, after changing the Home default view (start/settings/home screen) to something else (not sure what i did and dont have the VOX anymore), Internet Calling appeared as a plugin.
Hope this helps anybody...
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forgot to mention that I setup the VoIP settings and used it and it works flawlessly. The only problem is that the sound goes in the back and not the earpiece, but this is smth that we should still investigate.

I've added some instructions to the VOX wiki. Maybe some find it usefull and could expand it regarding the IPDialplan.xml (A non VOX but WM6 specific topic on that would sure be helpful).
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Vox

great stuff ... up and working ... Htcs710 ... all we need to do now is sort out the issue with the sound coming out of the back .. and clues or pointers ??
tim

Has anybody any ideas how to get the sound to come out of the front instead of the speakerphone ?

timo75 said:
Has anybody any ideas how to get the sound to come out of the front instead of the speakerphone ?
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Not sure yet and I am in desperate need of a solution. I will try to find out some more reading other threads about the VoIP settings here at xdadev. In case any of you finds a way to make the sound go in the front earpiece for this type of smartphone, pls email me at ionutz (at) pdamobile.ro.
Thanks a bunch!

Hi there.
Although the phone somehow registers to the VOIP service, I always get a "Network Error" when I try to place a call.
Could be provider dependant, maybe with some others it works...
Anyhow, just to let me understant, would you mind posting the name of your provider (or PM it to me if against the rules) so that I check with them?
Other thing, your today plugin stays as well on "Searching", right?
Thanks,
Ka.

Hi,
Regarding the the sound coming out of the back of the phone instead of the front, it is also happening to me with Skype so that may indicate it is something to do with the way the handset is setup by default and not the SIP add-in, maybe a registry setting.

Hi
Anyone found a solution to the VoIP sound coming out the speaker rather than the earpiece?
Regards
Phil

does it work over cdma without wifi
ionutz6 said:
forgot to mention that I setup the VoIP settings and used it and it works flawlessly. The only problem is that the sound goes in the back and not the earpiece, but this is smth that we should still investigate.
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does it work on cdma without wifi

best SIP application?

i used the search function but too many useless results
i have Jwrite WM6 5.2.1933 (pretty recent). What are the good SIP applications or clients out there that work well on Jasjar and this rom?

If I may point you to this post for AGEphone Mobile 2 you can find one of the best WM 5 / 6 softphones there. I am working for the company that produces the phone and if you have issues with it you can always let me know and we will try to fix them. It's not freeware, but especially when it comes to VoIP software you get what you pay for.

i wont get around to trying out AGEphone until tomorrow, in the meantime, how well does it support clients behind a NAT/router??? does it have STUN?

Yes it does support STUN - AGEphone was built with different network environments in mind and should work in most situations. If you run into trouble with your setup just let us know and we'll take a look into it.

And now we have support for the internal speaker on some select models (more to follow!) with AGEphone Mobile 2.5 Speakerphone Edition!

SMS Vulnerability impacting WM devices?

I read from this article:http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/31/apple-to-release-fix-for-iphone-sms-vulnerability-on-saturday/
It says the vulnerability impacts our WM phone as well. Anyone has checked that and if fix is available? Tried using Google to search our beloved forum but didn't pop up anything yet ..

I read about this too and if it can be patched that quickly on Android then I'd hope it should also be a quick patch on WinMo, especially as the SMS functionality is implemented in pretty much the same way apparently.
Plus XDA has people who are working with Android so maybe they can share what changes Google have made?

I am fairly surprised this hasn't been picked up by the technical bods here as it is quite a major vulnerability and Apple and Google have patched their OS's so WinMo is trailing behind... unless someone knows of a patch thats already been done?

I'm going to PM some mods I know ..

Any response from them yet?

Our good Dave is going to check with some resident expert.. and hopefully some lights to be shed.
From the info I gathered, it actually result in DOS for iPhone and Android, but no news/confirmation on WM yet. So we don't know. However, given the method explored by the author, it's likely at minimum resulting the same (DOS, phone hung, etc.). I think, for phone user, this is critical, as you can't spend your day checking the phone always just to make sure it's still connecting to network/operators.

From what I read the vulnerability could allow for remote code execution including reading your phone's storage and activating cameras and gps. So someone could write an app that send this information back via the data connection and that person could be watched and tracked without knowing that there were compromised.
This is obviously worst case scenario but I for one would sit on the paranoia side of the fence and get it plugged. If we can.

From what I got and discussion, it's mostly DOS.
However, IMO, it still scary. You can't be contacted nor SMS-ed without you realizing until you need to initiate call/ connection.
For someone most of the time on receiving side (doctors, etc) it's really a danger. I do hope our resident expert can find out something, as I don't think MS will be doing it.

You may want to read this article where they interview one of the guys that found the vuln...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hacking-iphone-security,2384.html
(Linked from Slashdot -
Specifically this bit on page 4...
Charlie: Collin's framework also works on Android and WinMobile. We found some denial of service bugs in Android (which we reported and are fixed) and a pretty bad bug in the way HTC WinMobile phones handle SMS messages containing the format specifier %n. That's a fun one because you don't need any special tools to send the malicious message, just use your phone to text your buddy with %n and their TouchFlo (application manager) will crash and won't come back up.

Starfury said:
Specifically this bit on page 4...
Charlie: Collin's framework also works on Android and WinMobile. We found some denial of service bugs in Android (which we reported and are fixed) and a pretty bad bug in the way HTC WinMobile phones handle SMS messages containing the format specifier %n. That's a fun one because you don't need any special tools to send the malicious message, just use your phone to text your buddy with %n and their TouchFlo (application manager) will crash and won't come back up.
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Well, tested the %n story, didn't crash anything on my Topaz WM 6.5 manila 2.5
So regarding manila 2.5 it's: fud
EqX

the-equinoxe said:
Well, tested the %n story, didn't crash anything on my Topaz WM 6.5 manila 2.5
So regarding manila 2.5 it's: fud
EqX
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I believe the current HTC handsets come with WM6.1 now as standard, either HTC or Operator flavoured. As this is a forum for all HTC devices on WM5.0/6.0/6.1/6.5 can we have some testing done on stock ROM's on stock devices please?

I'm going to send a %n text to my buddy's phone and see.
At least now the thread is getting some attention. My concern is for people (like me) that rely more on receiving call/SMS than making call/sending SMS. A crashed network connection will result in no phone at all.

How'd the testing go and any movement on patching?

Just sent myself a %n message but nothing happened. On TPC v10.9 on M2D (Mega's M2D)
My friend is now using custom ROM .. so no try there. I don't have OEM that has M2D ..

What about just trying it on a bog standard WM6.1 OEM ROM from an operator.

Can do .. later perhaps when I'm changing ROM again. I thought it only crashes M2D? No OEM for Kaiser has M2D ..

Reviving this thread because iPhone is vulnerable. Not sure if IE also on our Kaiser? Opera?
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=14663