Just curious, if it's possible to turn the client, into a host, or an access point. Not neccesarily to serve as a gateway to the outter world, but perhaps simple to go no further than the phone itself.
Here's the possible scenario; two smart phones, one phone is in access point mode, possible even hosting a simple web page, while the other is in client mode, connected through WiFi to the other.
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Objective: To be able to get atleast a shell anytime you want.
Summary: I want to be able to control my phone from anywhere. Mainly, for the case that the phone is stolen, I want to be able to track it through GPS, operate the camera, download my files, wipe the phone, and make it explode (just kidding )
The Problems: The main issue here is to get a connection to the phone. In both WiFi and 3G. In both cases, the phone can be behind a NAT which will not accept any incoming connections so having a server on the phone will not help.
Secondly, you may also be behind a NAT (and also you do not know where you will be), so a reverse ssh or vnc will not work.
You can attempt a punchthrough, but you need a server, and you need your phone's IP address at the server.
I have tried PAW webserver and WebKey but when running on mobile networks, I am again behind some NAT or some ports are blocked, so I cannot get it to work.
I just want some discussion/research/opinions on how to deal with this and how I can have a constant connection with my phone.
So far, I can see the only way is to have a server somewhere, which can either do a punchthrough, or provide the phone with an IP to which a reverse ssh is opened. But the phone will then need to periodically check the webserver.
What do you guys think?
Hey everyone! Back home, I use Touchpad from Nullar (works fantastically) to control my PC and media players when I'm in bed or on my couch. However, I am now at school, and I cannot use WiFi in my room; I can't use Touchpad anymore. Has anyone attempted PC HID control via bluetooth or USB? I tried searching with several different keywords, but I was unsuccessful.
I don't think anybody has managed direct control over the USB connection yet, although we can manipulate it into a few known and pre-installed states (HID not being one of them, sorry). Bluetooth may be possible; we do have at least some access to the BT stack, although since it doesn't support HID natively either it would be quite a hack to get that working.
Are you disallowed WiFi for some reason, or do you just not have a WiFi network set up (and wow, are there really schools that still don't have WiFi in the dorms??)? A WiFi router is pretty cheap these days. Alternatively, it's possible to configure a PC's WiFi adapter to act like a WiFi access point, allowing the phoen to connect to it. I don't know for sure if Touchpad would work over that, but probably.
In theory, Touchpad should be possible over the Internet, though you'd need to open the firewall ports (whcih, depending on your school's network, might not be possible). Ot would lag, too.
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I don't think anybody has managed direct control over the USB connection yet, although we can manipulate it into a few known and pre-installed states (HID not being one of them, sorry). Bluetooth may be possible; we do have at least some access to the BT stack, although since it doesn't support HID natively either it would be quite a hack to get that working.
Are you disallowed WiFi for some reason, or do you just not have a WiFi network set up (and wow, are there really schools that still don't have WiFi in the dorms??)? A WiFi router is pretty cheap these days. Alternatively, it's possible to configure a PC's WiFi adapter to act like a WiFi access point, allowing the phoen to connect to it. I don't know for sure if Touchpad would work over that, but probably.
In theory, Touchpad should be possible over the Internet, though you'd need to open the firewall ports (whcih, depending on your school's network, might not be possible). Ot would lag, too.
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Touchpad over WiFi/internet already works. We do have WiFi in the dorms, but the routers are in the lounges (no signal in my room). The rooms have ethernet ports, which is what I use, however we aren't allowed to use a router/hotspot in our rooms because of throttling issues.
Making your PC use the built-in WiFi interface as an access point is probably your best bet. Obviously, lock the network down so it's not going to have other people connecting and getting you in trouble. Do a little searching and you should find the software that does this (there are a few different ones). It was actually supposed to be a Win7 feature, but at the end it shipped half-finished. A few other developers finished it up for Microsoft.
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Making your PC use the built-in WiFi interface as an access point is probably your best bet. Obviously, lock the network down so it's not going to have other people connecting and getting you in trouble. Do a little searching and you should find the software that does this (there are a few different ones). It was actually supposed to be a Win7 feature, but at the end it shipped half-finished. A few other developers finished it up for Microsoft.
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I tried doing this with my friend's laptop (I'll buy a dongle if this works), however my phone (SparkW) doesn't see the network, and when I type in the name manually it doesn't connect. The network was visible to another laptop though.
Did you make it appear as an access point ("Infrastructure" network), or merely cause the PC to create its own peer-to-peer ("ad-hoc") network? WP7 doesn't support that latter kind, but will happily connect to the former. Also, what software did you use? If it was anything that came with Windows, or with any Windows PC, it was almost certainly ad-hoc.
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Did you make it appear as an access point ("Infrastructure" network), or merely cause the PC to create its own peer-to-peer ("ad-hoc") network? WP7 doesn't support that latter kind, but will happily connect to the former. Also, what software did you use? If it was anything that came with Windows, or with any Windows PC, it was almost certainly ad-hoc.
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It was ad-hoc with the built in services. I'll try out connectify this weekend and post my results here.
Hello everyone,
I am starting to get into web development and learning to code. I'd really like to learn how to use my devices for these purposes. I know there are ways to turn my tablet/phone into a web server (KSWEB), however, I am a bit unclear on a few things and not sure where to look or go.
The intent is to use my cell phone as a hot spot and then use my tablet as a web host to serve my laptop (all connected via the cell phone hot spot). I've seen how to access a web site you are hosting from a device on the device itself, but I am not clear on how to access the hosted site from another device WITHOUT a router and port forwarding. For example, let's say I'm at a cafe, I have my cell phone, tablet, and laptop. How can I access the website hosted on my tablet with my laptop through the cell phone? Would I need port forwarding through the cell phone to do this?
The reason why I want to go through my cell phone as a hot spot is so that I can still have internet access (via mobile network) on the laptop and tablet while still able to access the site hosted on the tablet.
Cell phone: Sprint Galaxy Note II (rooted)
Tablet: Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition (un-rooted, will root when computer arrives)
Laptop: Dell XPS 15 Touch (ordered)
I apologize if none of this makes sense or if I'm over complicating things. Just trying to get a handle on things before the computer arrives so I can jump right in and begin learning and coding. Also, the reason why I want to host on the tablet (instead of the laptop itself) is so that I can dive into development now while I wait on my computer (won't arrive until mid-march). Figure, I'd just keep the tablet as the hosting source.
When you create a hotspot with your phone, the phone becomes the "router".
So if you laptops IP address is eg. 192.168.0.100, the the phone IP will be "192.168.0.1" (the last octet is always "1" for the router).
Your tablet will be just like the laptop and have its own IP address, eg. 192.168.0.102.
You can connect to it simply by entering its IP address into you laptop. Since they are on the same network it'll just work.
Thanks! I was clearly over thinking it, but this is all new to me.
I'll try this out as soon as I am able. Thank you dev47!
Hi All,
At this point, I'm just brainstorming, and would like some input. (I hope this thread is in the right place)
I'm trying to find a setup to connect to free wifi hotspots that are far away, and share that connection to a group of devices locally. For example, this solution may be useful in a boat or an RV, when you're not particularly close to a free access point.
There are commercial solutions like the Rogue Wave however, this doesn't do anything to authenticate through the Terms of Service (TOS) pages that are frequently used at free access points.
This is what brings me to using Android. There are Android apps which automate the process of accepting the terms of service. My favorite right now is WebWifiLogin (I'm familiar with the security risks involved in using public wifi; and may also have the Android device to also establish a VPN connection when doing this.) (I can't find an equivalent macro-authentication solution that will run on a PC, which would make this much easier.)
So here's my proposed solution:
1. Start with a powerful omnidirectional wifi antenna (Possibly add an in-line amp if needed. Also perhaps a directional antenna may be better for non-mobile use.)
2. Connect the antenna to any Android device that supports an external Wifi antenna. I found several Android TV devices which should work. Like This, or possibly this.
3. Set up some kind of local access point/bridge. One option may be to use fqrouter2 which supposedly uses the same Wifi radio for the local WLAN, while it also connects to the remote one. Another option may be to USB or Ethernet tether to a DD-WRT Router.
Result:
The Android device has a range to connect to a free hotspot up to a mile or two away, then automatically accepts the TOS using the WebWifiLogin app, and shares that connection locally to a handful of devices.
So am I crazy? Is this too complex to work correctly? Is there a simpler solution that I'm missing?
Can anyone confirm whether I've posted this in the correct sub-forum?
Thanks.
I use a slightly different method which yields the same results.
I have a Linksys WRT54GL router (with high gain antennas) which runs DD-WRT and a script called AutoAP. The script scans for unencrypted WIFI access points, makes sure they're live, and automatically connects to the strongest one in range.
I set up a second WPA2 encrypted WIFI SSID in the router which I connect to with my Android tablet. Once WebWifiLogin on the tablet handles the TOS login, the remote access point allows web access for any device that connects to the WRT54GL router (either by WIFI to the secondary SSID or through one of the ports)! This happens because the remote access point usually checks/remembers TOS acceptance by the MAC address of the connected device. Since it only sees the MAC address of my router, anything behind the router now gets access.
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Once WebWifiLogin on the tablet handles the TOS login, the remote access point allows web access for any device that connects to the WRT54GL router
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This is great information; thanks!
I would not have thought WebWifiLogin would work when connecting through another router. When WebWifiLogin is running, its status says "Listening for WiFi events" (Or something similar) so I was under the impression that WebWifiLogin would only work if the connection to the AP is made directly by the Android WiFi interface, and not through a intermediary router.
This makes things much easier.
Not sure if this is the right place to put this, forgive me I'm relatively new to these forums.
But what I have difficulty doing (without setting up a whole static ip / dynamic port or w.e) is trying to turn my home PC on remotely, off the network (technically), then I thought my tablet is always at home, connected to the internet, surely I can use it as a gate way to remotely turn my home computer on using a wake on lan app like unified remote, however I now need to find a way to remotely control my tablet (off network) to do this, I thought team viewer would have been the answer but it requires verification on my tablets end rather than password input to control it, does anyone have any recommendations?
I believe splashtop allows remote control but requires you to be on the same network unless you pay, mobizen will technically allow me but i'd need to 2 step authorise it on every PC i go to, which isn't practical for remote connection.
So wondering if theres anything easier which i've missed!