Hi.
I am solving the issues of CommMgrPro with Raphael. The most important were.
1) CMP didnt change the band correctly (2G <-> Auto <-> 3G)
2) CMP didnt set correctly the speaker volume.
Any help to see if those issues are gone in this version will be wellcome with free licenses
Version V2.2(2008-09-12)
1) There are towers on each country with same cell id. So now the primary key for Cell Mode will be CellID + LAC. CMP will convert your database so make a backup before and will fill the lac information each time it finds a cell with lac equals 0
2) Compatibility with HTC Touch Diamond and HTC Touch Pro (Fixed Band manager, speaker manager, GPS manager and some GUI changes).
3) New option to repair the database.
4) New page for connections option (In connections/menu/options)
5) Option to disable/enable connections on roaming
6) Option to CMP startup delayed on page Options 3.
7) Option to Show/Hide the main window after start CMP.
8) Clicking on the higher part of the battery bar opens the battery page
9) Clicking on the lower part of the battery bar opens the battery page
10) Hide button is raplaced by calendar button.
11) New Today tab. This dialog lets you see the next events that will happen in the place, including calendar events, "Always on" schedules and other events (time limits, etc)
I´m on it!
I´m curious to see how much battery economy this will bring when switching off 3G? I´ll post my findings. What do you mean by speaker volume (in call?).
thanks
Belive me, it really save your battery if you swith off 3G mode. My battery lifetime increase from 8 to 26h.
Regards
B.
danielherrero said:
Hi.
I am solving the issues of CommMgrPro with Raphael. The most important were.
1) CMP didnt change the band correctly (2G <-> Auto <-> 3G)
2) CMP didnt set correctly the speaker volume.
Any help to see if those issues are gone in this version will be wellcome with free licenses
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Hi Daniel,
I'm expecting my Touch Pro on Friday, I'll report as soon as I can.
Manni
So far so good on the band...
I´ve tried all day switching between 2G and 3G and it seem to work seamlessly, which comes as a huge plus for me to save on battery when 3G is not needed.
One thing I don´t get.. the HIDE button. CMP is hidden but how to unhide it without having to press the icon to launch it again.
Update: Yes it asks for the PIN but naturally it has to since it´s reestablishing a connection to the Celular provider.
Regarding band switching - it works sometimes because sometimes CM just reset himself (generate errors)
Another thing is that if I'm switching from 3g to 2g is asking me for PIN
When I'm doing it mannualy (GSM to WCMDA switching) system never ask for it.
B.
Hi
In the options page you can set the pin code. In this way CMP will enter automatically the pin when switches the band....
fllysurfer said:
I´ve tried all day switching between 2G and 3G and it seem to work seamlessly, which comes as a huge plus for me to save on battery when 3G is not needed.
One thing I don´t get.. the HIDE button. CMP is hidden but how to unhide it without having to press the icon to launch it again.
Update: Yes it asks for the PIN but naturally it has to since it´s reestablishing a connection to the Celular provider.
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Well, I usually assign a hw button to CommMgrPro. Raphael has few buttons so I assigned long press phone button to CMP. CMP installs a Today plugin and a tray icon to manupulate CMP directly from today screen or bring it to front but you cannot see them with touchflo 3d. Sorry for not saying it before, you can set pic code in options dialog so cmp will enter pin code automatically....
Dani
fllysurfer said:
I´m curious to see how much battery economy this will bring when switching off 3G? I´ll post my findings. What do you mean by speaker volume (in call?).
thanks
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No, system volume. You can control ring tone and ring volume as a action associated to enter/exit in a profile/place (using cell ID)
It was short and 5min test - I'll check everything once again tomorrow and let you know.
Regards
B.
For those who want to check the 3g effect on the battery live. There is a tab on CMP that shows graphically the battery evolution in different scales of time and if you touch two points it tells you the speed, for example, 6 units per hour. Ok, let your device during some hours in 3g and check the drain speed. Do the same test using 2g. As you will see battery live lasts double (or more) using 2g...
Great Commmanager Replacement
Testing for about 15 mins now and so far no problems.
Although the ON/OFF switching for phone with the "no time limit" function is not very responsive. I had to click another icon before i could switch it on again.
Great work on the battery graphs very useful
I will report tomorrow after some intesive usage.
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Testing for about 15 mins now and so far no problems.
Although the ON/OFF switching for phone with the "no time limit" function is not very responsive. I had to click another icon before i could switch it on again.
Great work on the battery graphs very useful
I will report tomorrow after some intesive usage.
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hehe I see to tested it deeply. Turn on phone with time limit was disabled one month ago because the people requested in this way. Anyway I will remove the time limit dialog to avoid confussion....
CommManager replacement is only a little feature. The main one is let CMP (CommMgrPro) to set the state of the device (phone, band, BT, WIFI, speaker, connections, beam, messaging, brightness, ring tone, today theme, call forward, open and close programs, etc) depending on your current location by cell id (home, work, cinema, etc) and weekday/hour. In this way the state of the device will be different on your work&monday&10:00 than on home&sunday&13:00, isnt it?
Dani
Hi
I ve uploaded a new beta (b6). It warns if you want to change the band but you didnt set the pin code on options and a few more things. If you look at the screenshots on first post you will see there is a screen dedicated to the current (different than the battery page)with two lines, one for instant current drain and other for average. In this way is easy to check the current (in mA) needed for your device under different circunstances (wifi, band, gps, etc) and the temperature of the battery (important for the people like me having problems with device not charging if running gps/tomtom in a warm day).
ps: Talking about gps and temperature, finally I bought and A/C mount system so the battery's temperature is always low and no problem charging....
Hi Daniel,
So I received my Touch Pro today, and the first program I installed was CMP
Couple of issues:
- I installed without deactivating Touch Flo 3D, so I got an error message when the program first launched (I guess it couldn't launch the today plugin).
- If I deactivate the Touch Flo 3D, the icons in the plugin are stil QVGA. Same thing if you change the icons of the location (which makes it difficult to select the right one, as they are not for the software where the seem to be on the screen, if you see what I mean)
- Same thing for the fonts on mostpages / menus. Most of them are very small (hard coded for QVGA I guess) which makes them much harder to reads than on a QVGA device. The location line, or the function icons at the bottom of the main screen, are normal size. Everything else is small (for example, "there is a newer version").
- When Touch Flo 3D is activated, there is no directaccess to CMP (lower right globe icon), but I guess that's normal.
Otherwise, everything seems to work fine. I guess most of this is VGA related rather than Touch Pro related, but here you go, I'm coming from CMP on a Tytn II...
Edit: forgot to specify that the speaker setting and the band switching seems to work fine.
Hi
Thank you very much for your comments and help. Fortunately most of those issues are related with the sizzo vga skin so can be changed modifying the file skin.xml. Modify and enhance the vga skizzo skin is one of the pending things to do. Please follow reporting anything you see
Hi Daniel,
Done a bit more testing today, and I found out that there are two connections in CMP (T-mobile PicMessage and T-Mobile Internet), while I have only one connection setup by default (T-mobile).
They are both enabled, none of them is always on, and only the PicMessage is connected.
Is this normal? I'm quite sure I had only one on my Vario III. Which one do I need to get my push email? If I want to get my exchange email as it arrives, do I need to switch one of these to always on? (by the way, my exchange server is setup properly, and it works thanks to MrVanx...).
Hi Manni
CMP shows all the connectios,even hidden connection. Probably in the connections wizard your operator set up the second connection for other pourposes like mms,wap,etc.
If you re using direct push(like me) you dont need to mark any connection as "always on" because activesync will keep the connection alive....
Dani
danielherrero said:
Hi Manni
CMP shows all the connectios,even hidden connection. Probably in the connections wizard your operator set up the second connection for other pourposes like mms,wap,etc.
If you re using direct push(like me) you dont need to mark any connection as "always on" because activesync will keep the connection alive....
Dani
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Thanks a lot for the clarification!
I've tested both b5 and b6 versions on orygial HTC rom.
Discovered that :
1. Cannot clear history of battery usage in CURRENT tab - on BATTERY tab this feature works fine
2. Cannot verify database integristy - error message appear
3. Switching between G2 and G3 works smooth - tested VERY intensivly for last 3-4 days.
Small hints
1. there are two graphs on main screen - on the left is graph for battery and on the right for available field. Is nice of you if you can just create the link between battery graph on main screen and CURRENT/BATTERY tab on settings. This is common problem that Touch Pro battery has very short lifetime and I'm very interested in checking which action is draining my battery more than normal - graph is perfect place for this.
5. Last suggestion for booting TP and application starting process. Everytime when I'm performing soft reset or just starting device, I'm waiting to put my PIN as fast as possible to get my TP online, but THEN CommManPro LOGO is showing and grrrrrrrrrrrrrr I'm must wait next 5sek to tap my PIN.
You know, this is not a problem if you are using your phone for private, and there is no more than 3-4 calls from you sister/girlfriend/mother/lover by day, but I'm using my TP for buisness (and testing everything in the same time) manner so time when I'm available is critical - one missed call (because of 5sek delay) and couple of bucks less in my pocket
If it possible for you to just pospone CommManPro to starting just after TF3D it's nice!
Regards
B.
Hi,
i would like to know if it's normal that my battery goes to 100 % at the beginning of the day to 68% at the end. (i'm not using it mutch !!)
besides when i switch on my htc my processor is using 38% et then after using a prog it goes to 41% and stay at 41% after ending all progs i used.
if there is a prog who can optimize using processor it will be great (i know i'm asking a lote).
(by the way thank's a lot for the forum !!)
A power drain like that is unusual. I get to about 80% by 6pm just from making a couple of short calls and checking the forums on my lunch using 3g which I think is acceptable.
Generally your battery will run down faster if you have programs running in the back ground or you have other radios on (bluetooth, wifi, gps) etc.
Wifi will run your battery right down if left on.
Also turn down your brightness on the screen as that is a battery drain when its on and also adjust your power settings to turn off the scree faster when you are not using it. Most of these can be found in your start > Settings.
A friend of mine gave me a tip that when you flash your phone to a new radio you should do it with 100% battery as it helps improve the battery life. Not sure whether thats true or not but it seemed to work for me, of course it could have just been a better radio!
Hope that helps.
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besides when i switch on my htc my processor is using 38% et then after using a prog it goes to 41% and stay at 41% after ending all progs i used.
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Is it processor usage or used memory? Processor is the thing that does different calculations and needs more energy when being used more intensively (at least that's what I think). Memory is just a container of information ("0's and 1's") and energy is needed for maintenance of all 100% of memory, so imho it shouldn't change much if 38% are used or 41% (and again - that's just what I think about memory usage; I have no scientific proof for that ).
Btw, question from me - does strength and/or type of signal/network (with "type" I mean all those GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA networks) affect power usage in any way?
i hanged where i worked a few weeks ago and now I find I get 5 days from my battery, I only got 3 1/2 before. I have noticed that with my old job I never had better then 2 bars of service. this must prove that signal strength has something to do with battery life
Ofcourse. when you have better reception ur phone has to use less powerto send his signal and thus uses less energie
is it possible if u use a memory card, that the phone use the RAM not a memory (for files) but as a real RAM (like on pc) ?
Is there any lighter theme than the original one which can make the processor running slower ?
if you want the best battery life turn off htc home so you just have a blank home screen!!!
hold on I have a great idea, I will sit down this weekend and make a text only interface for my cruise. that would give some awesome battey life. I suppose I might as well buy an old nokia 2010 and save my time LOL.
Battery life depends on some many things its hard to get the phone to last the same lenght of time each day for me let alone everybody.
ook ....., thx for your help.
Do you have Slide 2 Unlock version 1.21 installed? That drains battery very fast. It has a bad "iLock2.exe". It's better to download the latest version of S2U2.
Btw, what about different "minimized" applications? With "minimized" I mean those that are left opened in background for using them later (e.g., paused music player, opened pdf, opened contacts/tasks/scheduler etc). On PC, such applications should not consume any resources (expect RAM, of course ;D) as there's no persistant interaction between application and user/data, so it would consume more power to open/close application and read/write data. What about such apps on windows mobile devices? Is it better to close/open applications so that they run only when they are being used? Or is it better to leave them in background while they aren't used? This question is about apps that are used on regular basis, i.e., like 20+ times a day...
Music players tend to keep the device powered up while the player is loaded and playing. You may have noticed the device keeps playing the music while the device seems off in many of the players. In fact, only the screen is off in this case.
There is a chance your music player keeps the device on when paused as well, wasting a lot of energy for nothing.
Hi,
I had the same problem, the culprit was btio.
btio was working fine on my qtek 9100, but on my cruise, this software empty the battery in about 24h
Regards
Pat
I have a strange thing happening.
I didn't notice when this change happened, else I would revert any changes and now it is too late and I need to patch things up.
When I first got my Touch Pro, I think the factory setting was to show the battery in the top bar. This of course happened always, TF3D or no TF3D (for example in Programs). Normal? Normal.
After some tweaking I installed a different battery graphic (more colorful) and I tricked the system (I am not sure how any more), to show battery when I was in TF3D (where clock is not needed because of TF3D's huge own clock), but to show clock on the other non-TF3D pages (again for example Programs folder). OK? Nothing really special.
What is my current situation that I need to fix: I can have clock or battery on my topbar when I am in TF3D (or in Today - so don't think it is related to TF3D and forward me to another section), depending on the registry setting I touch, but I HAVE LOST FOREVER clock (or even battery) reading on topbar, away of Today!!!
How can I fix this???
Using Diamond Tweak or Tweaks2K2, I can switch to have battery or clock on topbar, but NEVER shows away of today!
I know the related registry keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell:
- ShowTitleBarClock 0 or 1 (0 shows battery, 1 shows clock)
- TBOpt which seems to be related to what kind of clock (if it also has date I think)... but I am not sure if this is the key that has the problem...
Plus in:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TaskBar
there is a key that had
LimitedClock with a... control character in (!)
...which I eliminated, but made no difference...
I can give you screen grabs if needed but I think I am clear enough.
Help???
I want clock to show in all my topbar screens and if possible battery in Today (and TF3D) - and I know it is possible because this is how I had it for months... but priority is to get clock back in all screens.
OK found what it is myself.
(nobody could help as it seems...)
It is pretty stupid in fact: You go to "clock & alarms" and tick that you want to see clock in all programs (duuuuh!)... sometimes the simpler things...
If you prefer registry:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TaskBar\LimitedClock = 0
(at least I was on its footsteps in my post above)
NLS said:
OK found what it is myself.
(nobody could help as it seems...)
It is pretty stupid in fact: You go to "clock & alarms" and tick that you want to see clock in all programs (duuuuh!)... sometimes the simpler things...
If you prefer registry:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TaskBar\LimitedClock = 0
(at least I was on its footsteps in my post above)
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Maybe you should change the title then..
I lost my clock on topbar! (not so easy don't rush in)
I started this week finally fed up with the fact that I had to charge my battery every 24 hours. It was not working for me and I seriously was getting finally pissed off with this phone that I love so much and defend so much.
I did some research around here and using my best friend Google and found bits and pieces.
I decided to start a post where we can contribute ways to conserve the battery life. The one I have used has so far gone over 6 hours and only used 17% of battery life after calls of about 5 minutes in total. Normally by now my phone would be on 2 bars.
The ultimate thing to be aware of is that the battery is just like our bodies. The more activities, the faster the depletion. By activities I mean applications running. Now often you 'end' an application and yet it is still running chewing your battery behind your back.
Here are some tips:
[*]Light Displays
This is the common tip. Go to 'start/ settings/ power management' and look for 'Backlight time out on battery' and 'Display time out on battery'. The lower you set the time for these, the less battery you use therfore the more you conserve batteries.
I set my backlight time out to 5 seconds and display time out to 1 minutes. After making a call I rarely need the lights on. I adjust this stuff when I use other applications like Mobile Comic Reader (yes, I'm a comic book geek).
[*]Automatic email downloads
Now this is one that I overlooked and was like 'You idiot!'
Just remember, the more active your phone is the more battery it chews up. Email updates has your phone communicate with your mail box to find new emails and download them automatically.
To change this (in case you don't know) click 'start/ messages/ <select email account>/ menu/ settings/ next/ next/ next/ next/ next/' You should be on the screen that has 'automatic send/ receive emails'. The lower the frequency you set, the more battery you save.
I set mine to 'Once a day' and opt it to only download 'Todays messages'.
[*]Ending tasks using task manager
I only find out there is a task manager yesterday and I've had this phone for like a year and a half. How crazy is that?
Click 'start' and go right to the bottom and you will find it. Just like normal desk/ laptop task manager, you can use this to stop programs from running. Often times you end a program and think that it has stopped running but it is actually still running. The biggest culprit on this is 'Windows Media Player'.
Every so often, especially after using an application, make it a habit to close it off in task manager.
Switching off GPRS and/ or EDGE
You will notice a 'E' or 'G' at the top of your phone. This merely tells you that there are GPRS or EDGE networks operational. This is completely different from the 'E' or 'G' in the top right hand corner where your signal strength metre is.
If there is a 'E' or 'G' there, it means that your EDGE or GPRS is still connected and running. A running program means battery is being chewed.
At the top of your screen you'll see the first highlighted section containing 'Wi-fi; the time; your network service provider'. Clicking on this takes you to your Comm Manager with 8 rectangles. On the right hand column third row is an icon that looks like a PDA or touch screen with two arrows in different directions. Click this application to turn it off (give it a cross).
When you go back to your home screen, the 'E' or 'G' in the top right hand corner (not to be confused with the ones on the top middle) will be replaced with an icon I can only describe as a key that opens a tin of sardines. This means your EDGE or GPRS is turned off and not active.
Please remember to switch this back on when you want to send mms and go onto the internet using GPRS and stuff. Alternatively there is an option to automatically turn off GPRS if it is idle for a specified amount of time. for that you need any registry editor,
Goto HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Settings\Planner
Now change CacheTime to say 120 to turn of GPRS after its idle for 2 mins.
And Change SuspendResume from ~GPRS to GPRS_bye_if_device_off
That's the tips that I have found have made me a happy s710 user. I don't know if there are battery conservation programs for the s710 - I searched in vein - but in the end it just came down to efficient use of energy.
If there are any further suggestions, I invite all to drop their personal ideas that work.
God speed.
Please remember to switch this back on when you want to send mms and go onto the internet using GPRS and stuff.
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There is an option to automatically turn off GPRS if it is idle for a specified amount of time. for that you need any registry editor,
Goto HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Settings\Planner
Now change CacheTime to say 120 to turn of GPRS after its idle for 2 mins.
And Change SuspendResume from ~GPRS to GPRS_bye_if_device_off
Hey. Nice.
I'll look for that. I was wondering if there was such a function.
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Hey. Nice.
I'll look for that. I was wondering if there was such a function.
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just add it to your post. that way pple will get everything from the first post. BTW tc shows strange values, try resco or sktools.
Thanks. That was a good idea. I just added it.
Radio Off
I do some searching in internet and found this freeware RADIO OFF
It will automatically off your radio. just need to set the time..
Enabling Cell Info Display drains the battery.