SD HC Cards Requirements? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development

A 8Gb SD HC Card from Kingston Works with the Universal?
I have a Dopod 900 version of the Universal.
Any requirements...?
Sorry need to be post in accesories...

No, the Universal will only support NON SDHC type cards and only up to 4 Gb
HighCapacity SD cards are sd2.0 and the Universal is not compatible

Viper® said:
No, the Universal will only support NON SDHC type cards and only up to 4 Gb
HighCapacity SD cards are sd2.0 and the Universal is not compatible
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Just a note, in case someone asks for a developer to fix it:
SDHC requires a HARDWARE upgrade
Therefore we will never get it on our Uni's (although the Omni will support it )

TehPenguin said:
Just a note, in case someone asks for a developer to fix it:
SDHC requires a HARDWARE upgrade
Therefore we will never get it on our Uni's (although the Omni will support it )
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SDHC does NOT require hardware upgrade to any of the existing devices. It is just a minor software change in sd host driver, and an updated SDMemory.dll that is provided by MS since WM6 aku 0.2 (of cause OEM should include it in image instead of the old version)
As none of the developers have SDHC card to test - noone of us can make this patch.
P.S. Omni is a trash. Running OS on the same chip as a radio would definitely cause performance issues. Only an accelerated video card would help a bit, but only in graphics.

We wait the patch or the hardware upgrade. Meanwhile ...
Is possible to use a USB enclosure with 2.5 hard disk using the miniUSB connector in the back, I understand?
Experience with this storage solution?
Maximum Storage?
Speed better than SD Cards?

mamaich said:
SDHC does NOT require hardware upgrade to any of the existing devices. It is just a minor software change in sd host driver, and an updated SDMemory.dll that is provided by MS since WM6 aku 0.2 (of cause OEM should include it in image instead of the old version)
As none of the developers have SDHC card to test - noone of us can make this patch.
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My mistake.
I had read that the difference between SD and HCSD was different addressing (block vs byte) - and understood that the chips that read the card dealt with addressing - hence the only way to upgrade was to change chips.
ReySys said:
Is possible to use a USB enclosure with 2.5 hard disk using the miniUSB connector in the back, I understand?
Experience with this storage solution?
Maximum Storage?
Speed better than SD Cards?
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A Windows Mobile device cannot be a USB host:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/En-US/library/aa932230.aspx
However, if the other device supports USB OTG (On-The-Go) then it may be able to connect to a WM6 device:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/En-US/library/bb202176.aspx
This may require some serious hacking, as our Uni's do not have the drivers for this
Additionally, the mini-usb is not powered, so your external hard drive needs to be plugged into a power supply (ie mains power) - severely reducing its usefulness.

i have tested 1 gig sdhc (class4) memory card and it worked on universal.

Could you be more specific please?
Which ROM were you using when you tested this SDHC card?
Also can you write down the S/N of this card?

A Windows Mobile device cannot be a USB host:
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Take a look at Fujitsu Siemens Loox series, you'll change your mind.

vlodeck said:
Take a look at Fujitsu Siemens Loox series, you'll change your mind.
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Seeing as most sites mentioned that "only certain USB devices worked" - I'd vote that its actually USB On-The-Go rather than a real USB Host

4Go
I've test a 4Go sdhc sandisk on universal and do not work.
I've Wm6 2.10.11 PV

onlineemails said:
i have tested 1 gig sdhc (class4) memory card and it worked on universal.
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I dought it's an sdhc because sdhc starts from 2gb.

dan-elect 4gb sdhc doesn't work

TehPenguin said:
Seeing as most sites mentioned that "only certain USB devices worked" - I'd vote that its actually USB On-The-Go rather than a real USB Host
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The G900 has USB host functionality although the device needs to draw less than 100mA else it needs to have it's own psu.

Try it 's working for me to read hcsd card!
Hi!
It's working with 8gb hcsd class 6 but only 3.5gb avalaible

Its working for me as well but as you said it only shows 4.3GB capacity,i am using 8gm class 4 HCSD card

As for today only one ROM help to use SDHC card: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1462785&postcount=1

Laurentius26 just release a new rom with perfect SDHC support.

didt works in orgiginal spanish rom

sedardna said:
didt works in orgiginal spanish rom
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No, only in WM6 AKU>02
Necesitas WM6 AKU 02 o superior y el "parche" SDHC. La última ROM de Laurentius cumple los dos requisistos, pero tiene aun muchos fallos. Supongo que se irán corrigiendo en versiones posteriores.

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8gb sd card

Has anyone tried using an 8gb sd card under WM6?
I have WM6 on my XDA Exec, but don't want to buy an 8GB card if it's not going to work.
If it's HDSD it won't work (from my understanding), if its SD it might work... but i've never heard of any regular SD card that is bigger then 4GB.
you can use it as a storage. it is be able to install programs on!
Balur said:
If it's HDSD it won't work (from my understanding), if its SD it might work... but i've never heard of any regular SD card that is bigger then 4GB.
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Hi!
I think the bigger memory will be apear very soon. So that is very good for memory limit of PPC. But can it work???? Not sure.
>4gb wont work with universal, and indeed some 2gb and 4gb ones too.
the universal has only a SD card reader, not SDHC. SDHC capabilities would need new hardware or at the very least new firmware so its not gonna happen, sorry
ocz sd card 4gb
Midget_1990 said:
>4gb wont work with universal, and indeed some 2gb and 4gb ones too.
the universal has only a SD card reader, not SDHC. SDHC capabilities would need new hardware or at the very least new firmware so its not gonna happen, sorry
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I bought a OCZ high speed 150x 4GB SD CARD in San Jose, usa last november which has worked perfectly in my universal with both wm5 and 6
fyi
Midget_1990 said:
>4gb wont work with universal, and indeed some 2gb and 4gb ones too.
the universal has only a SD card reader, not SDHC. SDHC capabilities would need new hardware or at the very least new firmware so its not gonna happen, sorry
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A new firmware to make the Universal's SD Card Slot SDHC compliant is not possible. Only a new hardware component will work.
The OFFICIAL maximum storage capacity supported on the Universal SD Card Slot is 6GB. Obviously such an SD card does not exist and hence the practical maximum limitation is 4GB.

4gb sd card? can it be used

Hello,
First of all i want thank all of member of this wonderful site for providing all the knowledge and guidance and softwares to make our wizard and wonder wizard.
I want to know if i can use a 4 gb mini sd card with my wizard or not. If yes, then which one and if there is a certain way, then please tell me.
thanks in advance.
SDHC is supported if you flash to WM6
starkwong said:
SDHC is supported if you flash to WM6
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Are you sure ? Last time I read discussions about 4GB miniSD in Wizard, bottomline was that card has to be NON - SDHC in order to be recognized.
I heard that from some China guys...
However OMAP850_SDHC.dll is loaded in Wizard WM6 ROM...
Yes BUT, does the HW support SDHC? Has anyone actually gotten their hands on a 4Gb miniSDHC and tried it on a Wizard w/WM6?
I had 4Gig SDHC by scan disk and WM6. Doesnt work
so conclusion is that it will not work. then.
I've a 4GB MINI SD CARD (SDHC) from CHINA and WM6 on my Device but it's doesn't work on it!
This is because you need hardware and firmware support for SDHC. Some of the early 4GB cards (pre-SDHC) would work some didn't as reported by many posters.
THere is a thread in the Wizard Accessories forum tracking what 4GB SD cards work on what Wizards. You may want to look at that thread. I can say I bought a 4GB min-SD off of eBay, and it works for awhile and then stops working. I've given up trying to do anything with it as I've lost data due to it twice (and causes slowdowns on my phone). Some claim to have resolved some issues with them (I thought I had fixed mine by reformatting it on a PC, but after about a week of it working well, it suddenly started having problems again).
I have a TOPRAM card (4gb), and it works great! (not sdhc)
No problem with speed at all!
I had an unbreanded card that didnt wokr.
Be careful. I have a TOPRAM 4Gb also and it was not stable on my Wizard with WM6. 6 different versions of WM6!

Micro SD Card Reader for Vista?

So I need a good (cheap) card reader that can read 8GB Micro SD cards in Windows Vista Home Premium?
Is there some sort of Windows Update or something that I need to install for Windows to recognize the card?
I can recognize my 1 gig cards just fine, but Windows can't see the 4 gig cards (probably due to the card reader or something) and I am planning on getting an 8 gig card soon...
I have the adapters to convert them to regular SD (but the adapters came with my 1 gig cards- could that be a problem?)
My notebook reads all my card, and I'm using Vista Home Premium. You could always use your device as the reader !
TheChampJT said:
You could always use your device as the reader !
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As he said.
Also, you can buy a cheap reader off eBay and if you need a MicroSD to SD adapter. There's also the MicroSD readers that fit your keychain and read it all.
I got mine for 3 bucks shipped. Just make sure it's SDHC compatible.
And yes, Vista will read them no matter how big they are.
I installed Card Export on my Tilt and Vista can't see it as a flash drive either (even with the 1 gig card). How are you guys using the device as the card reader? I have an AT&T Tilt (HTC Kaiser) running the Hyperdragon III Aug 4 Full WM6.1 ROM...
I'll have to look for a card reader that is SDHC compatible. That has to be the problem. I just did some online searches and found some posts on various message boards with others using the same card reader that I have (Sandisk SDDR-103) and it was confirmed that it is not SDHC compatible.
the problem is none of these things say they are or aren't SDHC compatible on the package. You pretty much have to buy it online (or do your research in advance) to get one that is SDHC. So I will probably have to buy online and wait for shipping...
I haven't really tried it yet, but WM5torage is a popular app.
TheChampJT said:
I haven't really tried it yet, but WM5torage is a popular app.
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It doesn't work with WM6.1 though, does it? I used to use it on my old PPC 6700 running WM5, but I was under the impression that it didn't work with WM6.1...
Yeah it will work, I have cooked it in my 6.1 ROM.

4GB Micro SDHC card

Good day all! I have a HTC Wizard and I cannot get it to read a Lexar 4GB Micro SDHC card. Please help! anything would be appreciated...
From What I have read (did some searching for you)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420767
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422438
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313849
SDHC appears to not be possible with your device - Hardware limitations - I suggest you read through the entire threads to make sure. A good place to start anyway
If i'm not mistaken you can get a MiniSD card with 4GB which isnt HC...
Unfortunately the Wizard only supports miniSD which maxes out at 2 GB.
feanor512 said:
Unfortunately the Wizard only supports miniSD which maxes out at 2 GB.
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No there are four gig miniSD Cards available. Just not that common or easily found. I found one and use it for my portable gps
SDHC cards are only functional in a handful of devices (mostly new technology after the Kaiser was released). People have been looking into it for a while with no luck. I have not seen a non SDHC micro SD card yet. Take a look in eBay, you might be able to find some in there. Good Luck!
1.i have a microSD card which isn't SDHC.
2.he doesn't need microSD ... he needs MiniSD...
and the four gig mini sd cards are not sdhc. Just not that easy to find
nir36 said:
2.he doesn't need microSD ... he needs MiniSD...
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I stand corrected

MiniSD adapter with microSDHC?

Hi,
I'm using miniSD adapter with microSD card, but when I tried to put microSDHC card it didn't working. Is there any software to make it use? Or it is hardware problem?
In order to have possibillity to use sdhc cards u should install this first. Then plug your sdhc card, it's likely to work. But i havent tested it by myself. Note: this driver dramatically drops sd-card read/write speed.
tornado does not support SDHC standard
mato-peto
Already does!
Read my previous post more attentively...
Some people confirm this driver to work on Tornado and on StarTrek as well.
They could use 4gb sdhc card!
Oh My !!!
It works!
There have been so many tries getting this to work and now it works.
I used a 8GB micro-sdhc card (with converter tot mini) and it works!
thanx a million!
myzhLAN said:
In order to have possibillity to use sdhc cards u should install this first. Then plug your sdhc card, it's likely to work. But i havent tested it by myself. Note: this driver dramatically drops sd-card read/write speed.
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Thakns for this!! It works!! Really read/write speed is much lower, but I think that OMAP CLOCK can help in this case.
doesn't work for me..i use the orange spv c600 version of the htc tornado,installed both c550_and_650_sdteam drivers as well as Cotulla sdhc but none worked..i'm using a mini sd card 2gb and a mini sd-micro sdhc card adaptor for the 4gb class 4 kingston card....with first drivers after install i still can see the normal card,not the sdhc,but after installing cotulla drivers(removing the others first) doesn't work al all either of the cards !! wtf? i use wm 6.1 standard
Interesting. I use the following rom:
WM6.5 Standard ENG OCOS 5.2.21234(Build21234.5.0.1)ver.1.0(Full and Lite) by Gregorys
i installed the full version of this rom with the Cotulla sdhc driver found in the link. (Be aware that you should install 2 cab-files, but this is stated clearly in the readme.txt)
Maybe there is something in the rom as well that we need. why don't you install this rom and try...
10nx for the tip...the phone i have bought 2 days ago ,caught a bargain with full package at 40 dollars,already with a wm6.1 installed...but i'm not satisfied about it,has a few bugs...not sure who's version is it now,but i will install the gregorys version......hope it works after the new rom,it's good to be known that not all wm6 roms work with sdhc
jOnly works with micro SDHC plugged into the micro SD to mini SD converter and then used with tornado
the standard mini SDHC doesnt work. and this way there is no significance of SDHC's advantage of speed. isntead speed is dead slow
Follow up the analysis of the driver packages and the final solutions in the thread "SDHC Finally Works !!!!!!" (seems not all who wrote here are also there).
Keep the Tornados alive!

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