frozen boot please help - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development

can someone please help me figure out what the deal is with my phone, it's been working great minus the fact it wont work with activesycn anymore, but today i was at my friends using wifi and surfing the net and using Remote Desktop and it locked up, i rebooted it with the reset button and it sits at the Windows Mobile splash screen, for 45+mins, i havent waiting longer than that, i noticed if i pull the battery, sim, SD out and let it sit, put it all back together, press all the buttons, turn it back on and press buttons while is coming on, itll come on, dont know why i have to press stuff lol but its working, and its done this twice, if my activesync worked i'd re-flash it but this rom hasnt been too bad for me, it's one of the earlier Faria releases of wm6. anyone know what would cause it to freeze up during boot and work Sometimes? or a way to make it boot up for sure w/o doing a hard reset.
i noticed it will boot up if i press some buttons during the first/second splash screen, the HTC one and the one with the version numbers, if the keyboard lights up i know its gunna boot successfully. this is crazy. and annoying.

You might try flashing with Shelltool. I'e never done that but it seems to work.

Have you tried to do a hard reset on it? No flash is required. Also for ActiveSync, go to Start > Settings > Connections > USB to PC and uncheck (or check) the box there and see if ActiveSync starts working for you.
And you can always flash directly to the bootloader (no activesync required) if thats what you want to do. Just turn off the phone, then hold the camera button and turn the phone back on. As long as you see USB above the left softkey you are good to go for flashing a different rom onto your phone. I would strongly suggest if you do this to flash back to an official ROM first (T-Mobile 2.26 is a good one to use) and then flash a custom rom of your choice.
No idea why this would have started, but my guess is something you have recently added has a conflict on your phone. You might want to go to remove programs and remove the last couple of things. Then grab a trial copy of MemMaid and run that to clean up bad registry entries and such. See if the problem goes away.
Good luck!

Ah.. See, I want to flash really bad and try something with the new HTC Touch on it, there are so many roms lol, i don't even know where i saved the file for the one im using now.. but the only problem is, i cannot get the damn thing to sync with activesync, i've tried reinstalling it and unchecking the other box on the phone, no go. i'm sure there is no other way to back everything up is there? :-( i'll try memmaid too just incase that can fix the registry. any specific rom you recommend with HTC Touch ? i text A LOT with my phone so i'm mainly only worried about texting and taking pictures, but i've got the UK rom to install, i heard that is better than my current one.

sintax said:
Ah.. See, I want to flash really bad and try something with the new HTC Touch on it, there are so many roms lol, i don't even know where i saved the file for the one im using now.. but the only problem is, i cannot get the damn thing to sync with activesync, i've tried reinstalling it and unchecking the other box on the phone, no go. i'm sure there is no other way to back everything up is there? :-( i'll try memmaid too just incase that can fix the registry. any specific rom you recommend with HTC Touch ? i text A LOT with my phone so i'm mainly only worried about texting and taking pictures, but i've got the UK rom to install, i heard that is better than my current one.
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I don't care for the Touch stuff (I assume you are talking the Cube), so I really can't comment on that. You'll have to try that yourself.
Use PIM Backup to backup your SMS, MMS, Calendar, contacts and more to your SD card. You could install it by downloading it directly to your phone (its just a zip file with the exe that you run).
As I said, you can upgrade without activesync. Just go to the bootloader as I described.

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phone froze -> hard reset

damn I'm pissed. I was messing around with my phone as usual, setting up pRSSreader and updating all the feeds/channels. I had the phone plugged into my PC because it gives me a faster connection. My connection went out however, and pRSSreader gave me an error. No big deal... so I tell it to update all channels again, and it freezes. I soft-reset the phone twice and it doesn't get past the 3rd boot screen (for me, the blue WM6 screen from mfrazzz's XM6r3 ROM which I'm currently using). Damn. hard reset was the only thing I could think to do.
What would you guys suggest I do incase it happens again?
I sure am getting better at having a list of programs to execute on a fresh install
First you need to figure out if its something that you installed to cause this to happen. There are programs that don't play well with WM6 (but those seem few and far between). Make a list of everything you install on top of the custom rom. If it happens again, you may want to give this a try (but I wouldn't use it until you have the issue again, so you know its something you have added and not this program itself ):
http://www.airscanner.com/blog/blog.php
Its an alpha product (and I've never used it) but supposed to give you a SafeMode (like XP) so you can get back into your phone if software / regchanges go bad on you. SPB has similar, but I haven't used that (and not sure it works on WM6).
Unfortunately, if you are stuck in the 3rd splash screen there isn't much else you can do. You can try pulling your SD card and rebooting to see if that might fix the issue. Also don't be plugged into the USB cable when you reboot (I've seen programs like BatteryStatus hang on restart in the past if you are hooked to USB). Speaking of BatteryStatus, if you are overclocking (or using CPUscalar) try turning that off to see if the problem goes away.
Good luck, and let us know what you find...

Serious help needed

hi all.
I am in serious trouble and i need help. i realized i did not have outlook, thus my contacts are all gone.
I had tried to update my software earlier by installing some .cab file. It was a file for my HTC home. The installation was 'successful', however after i did a reset ( they prompt me to ) i could not boot up my phone. It get hanged once it got to my wallpaper, and i cant tap or press anything. The htc home screen also does not come out.
=(
any kind souls?
So something is hanging right after windows boots... did you try to install HTC Home to a storage card? Try booting with the storage card out.
thanks for the prompt reply. i tried, however it never seems to work. I am using a HTC TYTN ii. running on windows 6.1
I did install it on a storage card. i tried means like switching on without memory card, sim card and did a million resets, but it doesnt seem to work.. =(
Actually i install the HTC Home was because the message counter on the HTC Home got screwed up. it showed 1 unread no although i had all messages read. but anyway, for now, tht's not my main concern.. =(
thanks all in advance ..
I guess I do not understand all of your issues besides the freezing at boot.
A hard reset should be an option, if you're ok with that... and then for the future, use sprite and pim backup to make sure you don't lose too much data.
Try searching the forum for threads like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320689
What caused you to lose your contacts?
my contacts are all saved in the phone, and it wasnt back up cause i am not using microsoft outlook.. and lets say i want to do a hard reset, how to do it?
and how do i do a soft reset with my phone.
Is there anyway that i can actually do a SAFE mode boot up? but my phone keeps getting hanged at start up. i dunno if its because it cant bring up a pin enter mode where I need to key in my pin each time i boot up.
0) What version of ROM were you using?
HTC TYTN ii
1) Applications installed when it happened
HTC HOME (old version ) i d/led and used HTC Diamond home, then it got screwed up cause the unread messages kept showing 1, although all messages were read. i thus wanted to reinstall the HTC home.
2) Radio ROM version (2.19.21, 2.47.21, etc...)
NONE
3) Device model (dopod 818, imate etc...)
HTC TYTN II
4) Device version (G3 or G4)
Windows 6.1?
5) How long it was since last hard reset (1 day,6 hours, etc..)
I never did a hard reset. how do i do it
6) Approx how many soft resets you already made (1-5, 5-10 10-15, etc...)
Soft refers to poking the reset button, would be more than 20 times after this issue
7) Approx how many shutdowns you already made (holding power button for 4+ seconds)
more than 10 times.
8) any other significant info you think will help:
My contacts are not saved syn with my com as i do not have windows outlook.
9) Do you have the HTC Homeplug today plugin enabled?
10) have you populated your PIM apps via pimbackup or via activesync?
11) Do you have the "HTC_default" today theme enabled?
yes.
for now, i cant boot up. the screen will hang at my wallpaper. i cant seem to press or click anything after that. My pin start up prompt does not apear too. please help =(
depressed ivy.
Sorry, but I'm pretty sure you need an app to use safe mode. You might need to loose your contacts, but don't give up... research and you might find an answer.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The%20Safe%20Mode%20Bible
And if you've already tried booting without a sim and storage card, you might need to hard reset, which is easy enough after reading the wiki.
e.g. press both softkeys while resetting, or you could even flash a new rom via sd card by naming the .nbh file KAISIMG.nbh and putting it on your storage card root directory.
Read the wiki before you make any decisions and good luck, good news is your phone sounds like it's fine, just install a safe mode program next time.
Hi. I did research like wht you adviced, i managed to log into bootloader mode, i downloaded MTTY program and got my phone to the USB mode. I like to ask the following:
1) can i retrieve and save my contacts as i saved them all in my phone and none in my sim card?
2) Wht can i do next as I'm badly stuck at the HTC home page with only my wallpaper, i cant click on any buttons.
Thanks in advance to all.
I really hope that some GURUs here are able to help solve my terrible situation and i would really appreciate it. My contacts are all save in the phone and i need some help in retrieving it.
Thanks all.
asdfgh123 said:
I really hope that some GURUs here are able to help solve my terrible situation and i would really appreciate it. My contacts are all save in the phone and i need some help in retrieving it.
Thanks all.
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At what exactly point does it freeze?
What is your radio version, it should appear after you turn on the device in red letters on the bottom right.
What is your SPL Version, you should be able to see it from the bootloader?
Dave
Hello friend. When I suggested research, I meant things like this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2732337
I found this thread by clicking search in the top right to use google, and typed "save contacts" which if you've gone into MTTY research (be careful by the way) then you might be able to backup your data.
MY SPL : 3.29.0000
MY radio: 1.65.16.25
When i boot up, i suppose to have some password protect, to enter my pin before there is reception and stuff. For now, I can only see my wallpaper, the start button, contacts and calander buttons.However i cant touch on anything, it just simply hangs there.
SIM card and memory card are off. I tried SYNC, but it says cannot detect device.
=((
asdfgh123 said:
MY SPL : 3.29.0000
MY radio: 1.65.16.25
When i boot up, i suppose to have some password protect, to enter my pin before there is reception and stuff. For now, I can only see my wallpaper, the start button, contacts and calander buttons.However i cant touch on anything, it just simply hangs there.
SIM card and memory card are off. I tried SYNC, but it says cannot detect device.
=((
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By "SYNC" you mean active sync? Try an Actice sync re-install, maybe?
Sounds like this protect stuff is beggared.
Ta
Dave
i meant active sync, it says it cant detect my device. Is there anyway from MTTY, i cant retrieve my contacts?
All this actually happen after i installed .cab file the other day, and the installation was fine and i was prompt to restart. It hanged after that till date. sigh =( I'm desperate.
GURUs,
I cant get my device to go any further than hanging right at the wallpaper of HTC Home, the usb doenst recognize my device, so i cant enter or do any thing.
I just wish to retrieve my contacts now, and do a hard reset on my phone.
Thanks.
If you never saved your contacts from and to your sim card without any kind of backup from outlook or pim, etc. you might be ****e out of luck. Gone from a ****ty samsung to a equally ****ty razr, hermes, and now kaiser with the same sim...Always copy your contacts to the sim; or at least a Backup folder on your desktop or lap. flashing erases the main memory, which of course includes contacts. That's why we have a program called sim manager, to backup contacts everytime we erase our systems. Hope you find a workaround though, as a former Iphone owner, reinputting your contacts is a giant *****
sigh.. does tht means i'm so dead now? I did ever did a PPCPimBackup, but its stored in the phone memory too? any sort of help you can assist?
asdfgh123 said:
sigh.. does tht means i'm so dead now? I did ever did a PPCPimBackup, but its stored in the phone memory too? any sort of help you can assist?
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Possibly, I've tried to get hold of someone who might know, but it's looking grim.
Storage Card backups and Active Sync are the best way to backup.
*DaveShaw closes barn door after the horse has bolted *
Ta
DAve

backing up my touch pro before I f it up

What can I use to absolutely back up my
touch pro before I try to flash a rom or put
in some app the screws up my registry?
from what i hear neither sprite nor spb will
do that
Doing a full system restore on a new rom is a lousy idea. You'll be importing your old, crappy registry settings onto a new rom, and in all likelihood erasing much of the goodness cooked in by your chef. It's really stupid, so don't do it. Your phone also may not boot up after you do it.
Go to winmo-experts.com, learn about SASHIMI, and use it to back up important reg settings and files, and to install cabs.
Use pimbackup or sk tools to backup your pim/messaging data only.
I think you miss understood my question....
I tried to load tom condons wifi mobile hotspot thing sunday. It didn't work so I removed it. After I removed it Active stync would not work. The carrier is going to swap me for a new phone.
Now while I wont try the mobile wifi program again, I am sure I am going to load some program, that will make something not work on my phone.
My last two phones a wizard and a mogul and my hp 4705 all got to the point where they wouldn't active sync at all.
I want something that will allow me to get my phone back to factory fresh condition with every thing working.... Hard resetting wont do it... the fine folks at the phone store tried for like an hour to get it to work right

Unable to make phone calls

Hi,
My girlfriend recently bought an XDA Orbit 2 which has WM 6.5 install on it.
Everything else on the phone works perfectly and without issue but she is unable to make phone calls correctly;
The phone will be able to dial out and establish a connection but no sound can be heard by either party even though both phones say the connection is there.
This can be resolved by a hard reset, however this only last for about 10-20 minutes before we lose all sound once again.
Can anyone shed some light onto this for me?
One thing that always screws up phone calls is the radio on the phone it should be a 1.59.xx.xx to check it go to start => setting => system => Phone Information => Software Information. Will find it there also while you are there what 6.5 rom is she running on it as if its not a stable one it may be worth updating it...
Should the .xx.xx be anything in particular or just stay as .xx.xx?
anything in particular i use the stock one (with the default rom) which is .42.15 any should do the job though...
Ok the radio on it is 1.58.25.14 which im asuming is wrong. How do I change it?
This a custom flash thingy ma bob wont hard reset the phone when you flash it => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376119
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426203
Is the radio i am using and imo the best for signal/ battery life.
How to do it.
1.Download both
2. Put the nbh file in the same directory as the custom ruu
3. Put the phone into bootloader (Start + OK + Reset whole on bottom, hold the buttons until it show a red green white blue screen)
4. plug it in to computer (let the drivers fully install)
5. Start up the Polaris_Custom_ruu.exe
6. Follow the instructions, shouldnt take too long to go through and flash
7. it will reset and you will have a nice shiny new radio and hopefully no more call problems.
All i will say now is what an idiot for selling the phone in that state... (may actually be the reason it was sold lol)
Im going to sound ike a total idiot now but I have no idea what ruu is or nbh or where to put it or what a bootloader is.
Could you possibly put it in moron speech Chris?
LOL well honestly i thought that i had already done that....
Have a look at the files that you download and then it will be explained.
The RUU is the thing that will do the flashing to the device
The nbh files contains the information of you download the stuff and follow the instructions you will have the result that you want honestly i cant think of a simpler way of doing it
Ive also put 2 screenshots to try to help you (one has a different radio but you get the idea...)
Also give this a read but i feel it may confuse you more..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381600
Its a noobs guide to flashing and has all of the info that you need to have.
It does give one point that it has to have SPL-2.20.Olinex on the screen but i would guess this is there as you already have 6.5 on the phone.
Awesome, thanks chris I will get it done tonight after work and let you know how it goes, if it fails I have no doubt I will be back complaining about my lack of phone savvy.
Hey Chris, just to let you know that it worked perfectly, thank you for your help it was much appricated.
No worries glad that it worked as if it didnt then i would be out of ideas...

HELP!!! serious problem.... help please!!

Hello there,
I have a serious problem. A while ago i flashed the energy rom to my device and it worked great. Now i can't use my phone anymore because it was a beta version? I've searched the forum, and i saw more of you got the same problem.
And i've read that it's possible to reinstall windows on my device but..
I typed serious import texts with notefolio and windows note creator program thing, i need it for my job,, Is there any way to retrieve those text files? It's not on my SD card, so it must be in the internal memory.. ****
My laptop makes a sound when i connect the USB cable, nut i can't see my touch pro in ''my computer'', it seems it won't connect...
Please please help me i'm desperate
thanks allready
Greatings,
Bouke
Mine just did the same thing and im about to leave the country. Have any suggested new builds?
Energy Rom Craps Out
My phone has also taken the time trial sleep, any help before I reflash. XDA should make it known that acts such as this do not happen again. I have donated to the development of this site, now wondering why & if I will do it again. Please help with a fix other than reflashing.
Moved as not ROM Development.
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My phone has also taken the time trial sleep, any help before I reflash. XDA should make it known that acts such as this do not happen again. I have donated to the development of this site, now wondering why & if I will do it again. Please help with a fix other than reflashing.
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I dont think theres any way to undo this thing. just happend to me this morning. I was able to get a start menu, but all the apps I start, start under the message.
BUT, since I got enough reminders that this version I flashed was going down, I see not more than to just accept this failure .
So I held down the vol- button en pressed the reset button with my stylus, now I its flashing a new ROM.
Good luck
yea i tried that aswell, but everyting is beneeth the message.
And indeed it's a huge FAIL from the energy rom developer
I'm still hoping for some reactions that may help recovering my valuable text files..
If i flash a new rom it will erase all the data on the phone memory including text files notefolie etc. right?
Greatings
unfortunately yes. as far as i know there is no chance of getting them out of there. but you installed a custom and private made rom - that is to some extend alsways a risk and you should back up all the things you have on your phone when you do this.
good luck
i too want to get a few things out of the phone.
the stuff that still works is htc sense, and anything started directly out of sense, but not any shortcuts to programs.
you can access it by locking the phone, then unlocking it.
it will give me access to sense ui.
so i'm now pretty much looking for anything that's left to help me start a backup program.
any ideas on how to add a program as a service?
maybe with sd autostart.
does that still work?
all we need is to get the phone to run one lousy backup app.
maybe even automated.
we need ideas! ;-)
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i too want to get a few things out of the phone.
the stuff that still works is htc sense, and anything started directly out of sense, but not any shortcuts to programs.
you can access it by locking the phone, then unlocking it.
it will give me access to sense ui.
so i'm now pretty much looking for anything that's left to help me start a backup program.
any ideas on how to add a program as a service?
maybe with sd autostart.
does that still work?
all we need is to get the phone to run one lousy backup app.
maybe even automated.
we need ideas! ;-)
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Hmm what doe you mean with locking / unlocking the phone?
And as backup program i have PIMBackup @ SD Card..
mxbouke said:
Hmm what doe you mean with locking / unlocking the phone?
And as backup program i have PIMBackup @ SD Card..
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My phone locks on long end key.
If I press that and unlock again, the expiry message disappears for a while.
Sense and some Programs started directly from within work. Not the home screen links
However, I cannot start programs from links or access the internal memory.
Is there any way to read this while in "boot screen" mode?
If you can get some things to work, then pull your sim card out, and sync to a pc. If the syncing works, set the pc's date back a few days, and see if the rom starts working normally, then back up what you need and re-flash.
If you can't sync, just try to fix the date on your phone. A soft reset may be required.
Doesn't work as Sense crashes when I try to set the date.
Maybe it works for other people.
Sync does not work as that is blocked.
I tried changing the timezone immediately after it locked but that didn't work either.
So I suspect changing the date back wouldn't do you any good.
In other words: I don't see any way to recover any data from internal memory.
I'm going to do a hard reset now as I don't have time for this.
I conclude that whoever decided or implemented this timebomb as is, is a complete asshole and I hope he gets eaten by wolves in his sleep.
Disabling a product after a beta phase and/or forcing customers to update is perfectly fine, destroying their data in the process is unacceptable.
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I conclude that whoever decided or implemented this timebomb as is, is a complete asshole and I hope he gets eaten by wolves in his sleep.
Disabling a product after a beta phase and/or forcing customers to update is perfectly fine, destroying their data in the process is unacceptable.
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Gee, Office 2010 is a beta release, and came with a time-bomb. Maybe you should call microsoft and tell them to suck it since your custom rom didn't live up to your expectations.
shadow# said:
Doesn't work as Sense crashes when I try to set the date.
Maybe it works for other people.
Sync does not work as that is blocked.
I tried changing the timezone immediately after it locked but that didn't work either.
So I suspect changing the date back wouldn't do you any good.
In other words: I don't see any way to recover any data from internal memory.
I'm going to do a hard reset now as I don't have time for this.
I conclude that whoever decided or implemented this timebomb as is, is a complete asshole and I hope he gets eaten by wolves in his sleep.
Disabling a product after a beta phase and/or forcing customers to update is perfectly fine, destroying their data in the process is unacceptable.
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I totally agree with that. I don't have time for it either, and i've already told my supervisor the good news..
Does anyone know a good working smooth ROM without the crappy time bomb thing?

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