WM6 Wish List.....Please Post your non-Rom-Specific WM6 Issues here - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development

Hi all,
Please could you post any issues you are having, tweaks/ OEMs you would like included into the next WM6 Build.
Leo and I will try to tackle all the known issues people are having with the WM6 builds and release a completed Rom.
Of course we need to know what issues you are having first, so post away.
Please keep this thread clean and only post current Rom problems.
This is not a QA post, it is for us to collect a complete list of known issues.
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Current Issues posted.
Conference call.(It let's me swap two calls but not letting me putting in conference (no button, no menu voice))
VOIP working properly through the phone earpiece and use the built in GSM CODEC, but mainly the earpiece.
True VGA
An update with the new HTC apps (audio manager, today, …)
Video Call, and if you could fix Messenger Live, so that it doesn't download my MSN contacts to the Address Book
3G data to work properly and STAY connected when push/a constant connection is enabled
Vanilla version + kitchen (I prefer not to have msn and live)
wifi wpa
fully-functional phone (quick responding keys) -- when i tried leo's v7, the response was slow and Talk button doesn't always work.
Ringtones on SD Card.
after turning on wifi - the bubble still stays as "turn ON wifi", and not "turn OFF wifi"
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Cheers,
Beast

The bugs
Hi Beast0898,
I don't think many people now me under the name Leo
Cheers,
Laurentius26
beast0898 said:
Hi all,
Please could you post any issues you are having, tweaks/ OEMs you would like included into the next WM6 Build.
Leo and I will try to tackle all the known issues people are having with the WM6 builds and release a completed Rom.
Of course we need to know what issues you are having first, so post away.
Please keep this thread clean and only post current Rom problems.
This is not a QA post, it is for us to collect a complete list of known issues.
Mods.........Please make sticky.
Cheers,
Beast
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dont we have a bugtracker?!?

Bugtracker
Haha..
yes, that's also a friend.
BEAST and I joint forces building WM6VC
TehPenguin is taking the bugs hehe...
http://xdabugs.vidmes.com/?
I hope we solve many problems together soon
Cheers,
Laurentius26

OK, to start off with one that seems to have been only commented on a couple of times - the "Turn on WI-Fi" works to turn on Wi-Fi but still says "Turn on WI-Fi" even after this, and cannot be used to Turn off Wi-Fi as it could in WM5 (which meant we didn't need to use the Comm Manager).

omg.. we have 2 stickies catering to bug reports/tracking. I personally prefer TehPenguin's bugtracker.. it looks much more organized (but I hate the color combination and font sizes of his site.. no offense ThePenguin ) I already posted I few bugs there that I remember I had when using the ROMs.

More memory Please
Hi Leo
I am using your current rom. Works great but would like to see more program memory up to 10 mb even at the expense of storage memory. Out of the 48.9 mb program memory available I am using more than 70% at 34.57 mb which only leaves me < 14mb free. (Pocket Breeze is a TSR using 3mb alone unless minimized)
In conjunction with this request can you also look at memory leakage? At reboot I get around 60% usage before opening anything, then the memory appears to leak or increase even without loading any applications up to 80% usage after around 2 days.
Cheers,
Simon

simonsalo, it's not the ROM. It's your today screen plugins that leaks. Or the apps/programs that you use.
The base ROM used in Laurentius26's ROM is Midget_1990's ROM.. which is by far the most memory efficient WM6 ROM out there.

DaVince said:
omg.. we have 2 stickies catering to bug reports/tracking. I personally prefer TehPenguin's bugtracker.. it looks much more organized (but I hate the color combination and font sizes of his site.. no offense ThePenguin ) I already posted I few bugs there that I remember I had when using the ROMs.
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No offence taken - I stole the style off another site
Just a reminder - If you need Admin\Developer privileges to my site, just PM or email me

I've just gone to the bug tracker to add those I've found - I think it's a more structured way of reporting bugs than a free-for-all in the forum. I think we should try and encourage people to use that to report bugs.
Cheers,
Steve.

Midget_1990 said:
dont we have a bugtracker?!?
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Hi Midget,
Yes we have a bug tracker (congrats and thx to TehPenguin for that), but what I am after here, is not necessarily bugs.
What I want to collect is what people want working on WM6 in general, I don't want bugs listed from each different Rom.
I need to know what features are important to everyone so that we can prioritse fixes better and make a WM6 Rom that suits all (now I know that's near impossible) but if we can collate a list of features/apps and functionalities, iron out the bugs we can get a stable functional Rom for WM6 that the majority will be happy with.
Cheers,
Beast

We(speaking for probably everyone here... ) could use the video call, and if you could fix Messenger Live, so that it doesn't download my MSN contacts to the Address Book, it would be great.
Or at least make sure that even if it downloads the contacts, they don't disappear from the MSN contact list when deleted from the address book(I recently had that problem: half my contact list vanished without a trace when I merged the downloaded instant messaging addresses into the existing contacts(to have everything in one place), and when I tried to re-add them, messenger gave me a curt response: "There was a problem. Please try again")
Also, if you could fix a small bug that makes the backlight button open Backlight Settings in addition to turning on the light, it would be great.
Also, system sounds seem a bit on the quiet side, it would be welcome if you could amp them a notch or two...
Thank you very much for your efforts in advance!

I would like 3G data to work properly and STAY connected when push/a constant connection is enabled. I believe this bug/deficit is present in ALL WM6 roms at present.

jasonkruys said:
I would like 3G data to work properly and STAY connected when push/a constant connection is enabled. I believe this bug/deficit is present in ALL WM6 roms at present.
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errrm...the JWrightmcps ROM I'm using(incidentally, the same as yours...) STAYS connected all the time for me...
but this is probably not the place to discuss this, just thought I'd share...

Every day I check to see if a new rom has been released ...... I am very happy to hear that someone is onto it and that forces are been joined ..... its all I bit messy at the mement with the different rome buit off each other.
My wish is that it at least a near vanilla rom or that a vanilla is released also. I prefer not to have msn and live ...etc.
Thanks heaps!!!
guinevere

things i wish to have in a rom:
1. wifi wpa
2. fully-functional phone (quick responding keys) -- when i tried leo's v7, the response was slow and Talk button doesn't always work.
3. currently, i don't use videocall -- but this will be handy.
4. with vanilla version + kitchen?
great work, guys!
thanks!

I would like to have a simple but useful function:
Ringtones on SD Card.

3G
Hi,
I don't think it excist in my current WM6ProBussiness.
Internet works flawless and stays connected!
Did you try already?
Regards,
Laurentius26
jasonkruys said:
I would like 3G data to work properly and STAY connected when push/a constant connection is enabled. I believe this bug/deficit is present in ALL WM6 roms at present.
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I've not used a ROM as posted since Helmi's kitchen, I want my ROMs my way
I miss Helmi's use of the new comm manager and its speed (will try Leo's at some point).

the "turn ON wifi" bubble still needs fixing.
after turning on wifi - the bubble still stays as "turn ON wifi", and not "turn OFF wifi"

Related

Calling all WM5 or WM6 chefs

Ok, Im working with the mUn edition of WM6. Anyone know how he disabled all but the password setup screen?
Ok i found only one instance pointing to welcome.exe which is supposed to launch this. help me out. what does this registry key mean?
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSWELCOME]
"3"=dword:0
"2"=dword:0
"1"="welcome.exe"
"0"="Welcome"
Yeah', i'd like to help out, as i started to think about cooking My own rom'',
mUn's may be one of better choices since it's quite clean and so on..
But what else was there about "calling chefs?'"
1. clean,
2. well documented(as i pointed out in mobiz edition thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298692 )
3. STABLE(working Most BASIC Functionalities like Wifi, MMS, Sim card phonebook usability)
I found that 98% of battery drain problems i've heard thus far were all caused by some today component, or other app that worked in background, and only when certain setting had been changed did ALL started to be baad.
"all of a sudden"
Keep up a GOOD WORK, set some clear objective what goal/ target do You want to achieve with this rom(speed, stability, minimality, cleaningness, usability>) so people will know what to expect and not to be dissappointed..
I am a little tired of: "my rom is faster than yours" approach..
i'd rather hear: this rom "feels" quicker in response, and is stable(optionally rock solid )
Hope that this "clean fixed" rom will have soon "a definitive guide" with recommended installs(freeware for ex.) to have as a start clean, stable rom, and greatest funcionality(additionall free soft installable by user),
Just so our Wizards will Stop being "toys" and will become TOOLS with a "LOT" extra(not just little extra).. as i read the other day of "one of us" giving it to his 14 year old daughter(nothing against young people, or girls), just..
i want to use a solid TOOL, even if I will goof off with it, and use it like 14 year old.
Cheers to ALL out ther Working, so WE CAN Enjoy our micro computers.
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Wiza200
MiniSD 2GB/1GB
Primary use: Mp3 Player (22hours hours playback TCPMP on WM5 Molskis')
Radio Version: 02.61.11
Version;Protocol Version:ExtROM Version:
WM6 by: mUn, faria V5.0, PDAMobiz V.5, MB, MTA
Possibly soon switching back to WM5(molski's)
..Be quiet, and the world will start singing
lolek5 said:
Yeah', i'd like to help out, as i started to think about cooking My own rom'',
mUn's may be one of better choices since it's quite clean and so on..
But what else was there about "calling chefs?'"
1. clean,
2. well documented(as i pointed out in mobiz edition thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298692 )
3. STABLE(working Most BASIC Functionalities like Wifi, MMS, Sim card phonebook usability)
I found that 98% of battery drain problems i've heard thus far were all caused by some today component, or other app that worked in background, and only when certain setting had been changed did ALL started to be baad.
"all of a sudden"
Keep up a GOOD WORK, set some clear objective what goal/ target do You want to achieve with this rom(speed, stability, minimality, cleaningness, usability>) so people will know what to expect and not to be dissappointed..
I am a little tired of: "my rom is faster than yours" approach..
i'd rather hear: this rom "feels" quicker in response, and is stable(optionally rock solid )
Hope that this "clean fixed" rom will have soon "a definitive guide" with recommended installs(freeware for ex.) to have as a start clean, stable rom, and greatest funcionality(additionall free soft installable by user),
Just so our Wizards will Stop being "toys" and will become TOOLS with a "LOT" extra(not just little extra).. as i read the other day of "one of us" giving it to his 14 year old daughter(nothing against young people, or girls), just..
i want to use a solid TOOL, even if I will goof off with it, and use it like 14 year old.
Cheers to ALL out ther Working, so WE CAN Enjoy our micro computers.
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Orange
Wiza200
MiniSD 2GB/1GB
Primary use: Mp3 Player (22hours hours playback TCPMP on WM5 Molskis')
Radio Version: 02.61.11
Version;Protocol Version:ExtROM Version:
WM6 by: mUn, faria V5.0, PDAMobiz V.5, MB, MTA
Possibly soon switching back to WM5(molski's)
..Be quiet, and the world will start singing
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Here is what I am trying to accomplish, I want to make the mUn's edition as stripped as possible keeping it together but giving a solid building ground for other chefs and also a good clean playground for users who just want a ROM without the mess. Once I accomplish 2 or 3 more things the Ultimate Fixed mUns version will be released. First I have got to get this welcome thing fixed. Until then, Im not even working on anything else for the ROM
Wow.. : )
That's a VERY GOOD approach there..
A step by step.
That's how some things CAN Get done : )
Thanks Man : )
I Think We all can use that : )
I'd like to start some kind of central repository/ interactive table with a Comparison of diffrent roms :futures, prog version, posssible issues: strong points, weak points.
There had already been so many threads like: best freeware soft for wizard, and since there are unorganized comments all over thread finding usefull, NOT Doubled application names, links, descriptions, becomes very hard if not impossible.
Some kind of ranking of apps ?
that may be more to xda-dev guys/ site owner/administrator if it could be incorporated into structures of BB
Possibly it could look like auto rom cooker, that i've seen for some older pda..
maybe it could be crossreferenced for different platforms, like alpine, wizard, himalaya, but centrally connected to one database so more data will be gathered and make it more universal: sometimes guys from another forum know of some software, that other users of WM5/6 could find usefull, but do not have time to go to every of 5 000 threads looking for a(good, or any in that case) free MMS Backup utility !?
.. found a couple of utils. for sms backup, saying they will back up email, sms, and mms.. well, they do only sms,
and considering that i have flashed my wizadr about 15 times during last week.., trying to use wizard as primary phone and keep track of contacts, is impossible without efficient backup system ..
Yet so many soft is being installed without EVEr knowing what for, and or how to use it and are already on the rom cooked.
Some are being used everyday during normal operations and which use and "fixed problems credit"are being given to a "new WM system"
I think it should be a cross(bow)referenced, or interweaved: forum and WIKI so forum will become more organized and more usefull to the community. And WIKI part will give ability to add more descriptions, and make building a database of app references, usage, and rating without making it all unclear and timewaste for scrolling through .. well an "off topic" comments , opinions still could be added under interactive portion of wiki..for all who like to get and give opinions(like youtube's sectioned view: 1.video,2.related videos, 3 comments, 4 unrelated latest videos.
: 1.File, app, or rom reference portion, 2.related threads/topics, comparisons, 3. forum comments thread 4. unrelated threads, comments, apps, comparisons/ news.
with system like this we all could save some serious time and not get overloaded by unnecessary info.
/time to get some rest
Cheers!
lolek5 said:
Wow.. : )
That's a VERY GOOD approach there..
A step by step.
That's how some things CAN Get done : )
Thanks Man : )
I Think We all can use that : )
I'd like to start some kind of central repository/ interactive table with a Comparison of diffrent roms :futures, prog version, posssible issues: strong points, weak points.
There had already been so many threads like: best freeware soft for wizard, and since there are unorganized comments all over thread finding usefull, NOT Doubled application names, links, descriptions, becomes very hard if not impossible.
Some kind of ranking of apps ?
that may be more to xda-dev guys/ site owner/administrator if it could be incorporated into structures of BB
Possibly it could look like auto rom cooker, that i've seen for some older pda..
maybe it could be crossreferenced for different platforms, like alpine, wizard, himalaya, but centrally connected to one database so more data will be gathered and make it more universal: sometimes guys from another forum know of some software, that other users of WM5/6 could find usefull, but do not have time to go to every of 5 000 threads looking for a(good, or any in that case) free MMS Backup utility !?
.. found a couple of utils. for sms backup, saying they will back up email, sms, and mms.. well, they do only sms,
and considering that i have flashed my wizadr about 15 times during last week.., trying to use wizard as primary phone and keep track of contacts, is impossible without efficient backup system ..
Yet so many soft is being installed without EVEr knowing what for, and or how to use it and are already on the rom cooked.
Some are being used everyday during normal operations and which use and "fixed problems credit"are being given to a "new WM system"
I think it should be a cross(bow)referenced, or interweaved: forum and WIKI so forum will become more organized and more usefull to the community. And WIKI part will give ability to add more descriptions, and make building a database of app references, usage, and rating without making it all unclear and timewaste for scrolling through .. well an "off topic" comments , opinions still could be added under interactive portion of wiki..for all who like to get and give opinions(like youtube's sectioned view: 1.video,2.related videos, 3 comments, 4 unrelated latest videos.
: 1.File, app, or rom reference portion, 2.related threads/topics, comparisons, 3. forum comments thread 4. unrelated threads, comments, apps, comparisons/ news.
with system like this we all could save some serious time and not get overloaded by unnecessary info.
/time to get some rest
Cheers!
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How about we call it xdawiz? I already own the domain and have a forum up. Ill let you put it together and make you a super moderator if you want. I am working with my own cooked mess for rom building and i have it down to 2 batch files, baring the fact you dont screw up. then there are a couple more if you do. Been trying to write an app but got too caught up in the muns release.
As it sits, i cant really get involved in another project until i get my welcome issue fixed.
nottoosmart said:
Ok, Im working with the mUn edition of WM6. Anyone know how he disabled all but the password setup screen?
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I think it's a good idea to at least keep the screen alignment wizard in after a hardreset because I heard the the screen would be useless otherwise.
NTS, are you trying to re-enable it?
In terms of clean, it would be nice to have the original keyboard back as well as no other themes. THAT is a clean ROM. If all of the registry fixes are in there, then we all have something to work with.
JMHO.
jwzg said:
NTS, are you trying to re-enable it?
In terms of clean, it would be nice to have the original keyboard back as well as no other themes. THAT is a clean ROM. If all of the registry fixes are in there, then we all have something to work with.
JMHO.
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Keyboard is nice even if it's not original. It's still clean though.
@NotTooSmart: check your PM, I found something I might be useful to solve this.
I strongly believe that the ROM should be as close as possible to that which should have been released by M$. I do think the keyboard ought to be an option (a separate cab file), but in order to have a TRULY vanilla ROM, that and other extras cannot be included. If you include the keyboard, then it's just a matter of time before everything else ends up finding it's way in along with it.
JMHO
nottoosmart said:
How about we call it xdawiz? I already own the domain and have a forum up. Ill let you put it together and make you a super moderator if you want. I am working with my own cooked mess for rom building and i have it down to 2 batch files, baring the fact you dont screw up. then there are a couple more if you do. Been trying to write an app but got too caught up in the muns release.
As it sits, i cant really get involved in another project until i get my welcome issue fixed.
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I hear ya..
Well, doing that would be something really good, but i would like to do this project in a most usefull way: of greatest benefit for all, and i am not sure if setting up a separate web page is a good idea, or maybe integration into xda-developers could do it../
would it be possible to set it up in a way, so that other site could use databases /to display INSIDE of forum structure..
If so, than we could have some serious interest comming from other good sites that will be interested in an UNIFIED approach to reviewing and inputting evaluated data.
As far as Keyboard..the skin.. yes it is cool, but for some reason problem arose with being unable to use phone pad: as it is not switching to it: staying at "cool skin"..
maybe some file is missing for that functionalty to be enabled..?
lolek5 said:
I hear ya..
Well, doing that would be something really good, but i would like to do this project in a most usefull way: of greatest benefit for all, and i am not sure if setting up a separate web page is a good idea, or maybe integration into xda-developers could do it../
would it be possible to set it up in a way, so that other site could use databases /to display INSIDE of forum structure..
If so, than we could have some serious interest comming from other good sites that will be interested in an UNIFIED approach to reviewing and inputting evaluated data.
As far as Keyboard..the skin.. yes it is cool, but for some reason problem arose with being unable to use phone pad: as it is not switching to it: staying at "cool skin"..
maybe some file is missing for that functionalty to be enabled..?
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I have fixed the phone pad issue. That was easy. I have tested and it is working on my phone right now. The only issue I have with making this a truly vanilla rom is, I didnt do any of the work to the base os. I can remove the Aero and any other tag marks set in by mun, but this will still be his rom, but instead of calling it repacked, we gonna call it stripped. LOL. As for the keypad, that is easy to change, but again, then i am taking things out that make this muns rom. Unless I get his ok, I cant do that.
nottoosmart said:
How about we call it xdawiz? I already own the domain and have a forum up. Ill let you put it together and make you a super moderator if you want. I am working with my own cooked mess for rom building and i have it down to 2 batch files, baring the fact you dont screw up. then there are a couple more if you do. Been trying to write an app but got too caught up in the muns release.
As it sits, i cant really get involved in another project until i get my welcome issue fixed.
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nice plug for the other forum just registered hope it takes off
easymob said:
nice plug for the other forum just registered hope it takes off
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Not really a plug, but if its already being paid for might as well use it. I was, up till the mun rom, working ona a gui applications that I was going to call XDAWiz for build roms. LOL. These things are in my head before they hit paper. As for now, i need to fix the damn welcome screen. Someone took my thread in a diffrent direction. LOL.
are you trying to make so it skips some of the screens when you first flash it
if so is that much of chore to to tap a few more extra taps when flashing a rom
easymob said:
are you trying to make so it skips some of the screens when you first flash it
if so is that much of chore to to tap a few more extra taps when flashing a rom
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No, lol. I want to make it so you have to go through the whole setup rather than only doing the alignment and password. I want the ability to setup the email, timezone, date, all of it.
i know you prob done this ages ago but the orwell version has this have you looked at that version yet
is it a modifed welcome.exe? I've never looked into it much, but if i run welcome.exe on Faria's rom all i get is screen alignment not the initial setup.
notyourdaddy said:
is it a modifed welcome.exe? I've never looked into it much, but if i run welcome.exe on Faria's rom all i get is screen alignment not the initial setup.
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that is what im trying to fix
which welcome.exe does the mun rom have? I can pull it off of another rom if you like. Anything else you need help with for your rom?

The Official WM6 Thread

Ok guys, so WM6 on Tornado exists (currently running on my device as we speak). But there are quite a few things we need to sort out before it can be released 'En Masse' Before this time I will ignore ALL PMs asking for the ROM.
There is a WM6 comments/suggestion/speculation thread HERE. Feel free to put in requests for embedded apps etc, but please realise we won't be able to put in EVERYTHING. So when the ROM is at a more completed stage we will draw up a shortlist for the apps etc to be embedded and let you vote it out
Current Issues:
Still has identifying build numbers etc to my source
Doesn't sync at all with a PC but will sync over exchange
It says WM5 with MSFP when its really WM6 (OS 5.2.xxx)
No Camera
No MMS
Issues fixed:
Wifi not accessable - new comm manager
No Office (fixed with a cab)
No t9 - updated to xT9 with 14 languages (fixed with a cab)
WLM is still beta and so needs removing and then updating (fixed with WLM RTM cab)
Things we need from a Tornado WM5 ROM
Camera.exe with all the mui extensions
Lets keep this thread clean, ok? I don't want sh!t loads of n00bs saying "where can I download ROM?". So, before you ask, here's my answer. YOU CAN'T DOWNLOAD IT UNTIL ITS FINISHED!!!!
If a mod could remove such posts i'd be forever grateful
Please only post if you have information regarding how to fix the issues I've outlined above.
Phil
So... i am Alex from ronswens forum. i promise to fix that if you give me the rom and you can contact me via ICQ .. we need at least 3 tests - first, we upgrade xip, then new os build and then fix the camera...
T9 now fixed, office added, WLM fixed
Phil
@sp3dev, unfortunatley i dont have ICQ, do you have an MSN email address?
Phil
isnt there someone already working on this?
guy called duke_stiks
anyway good luck with the developing and fixing of this.
sandman_06 said:
isnt there someone already working on this?
guy called duke_stiks
anyway good luck with the developing and fixing of this.
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I think this is the sort of n00b-ish comment jm012a9749's trying to avoid in this thread.
I mean, honestly, do you think he believes he's the only one to have attained a tornado version? Come on...
Look, this guy is aware of Duke's efforts, heck we all are, but the more people who get involved, the more efficiently we can get a polished product. There's no guarantee that Duke nor jm012a9749 will be able to do anything, so why should any of us sit back and not get involved? Besides, Duke himself has mentioned that he needs help since he's not an experienced Rom cooker.
Sorry for the rant here, but this sort of attitude really bothers me. Saying "oh, someone's already doing that, sit back and don't waste your time" is why certain projects never see the light of day...
Please only post helpful information or questions!
you can fix activesync by replacing the usbfn.dll file.
sp3dev said:
So... i am Alex from ronswens forum. i promise to fix that if you give me the rom and you can contact me via ICQ - 336030424.. we need at least 3 tests - first, we upgrade xip, then new os build and then fix the camera...
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Alex would you please tell me the new address of ronswens forum?
as usual, ronswens.jconserv.net. as for active sync, i remember those early builds missed actsync.dll.. but better give me the rom, i will use build 17xxx from excalibur and drivers, camera, t9 etc from wm5
Dishe said:
I think this is the sort of n00b-ish comment jm012a9749's trying to avoid in this thread.
I mean, honestly, do you think he believes he's the only one to have attained a tornado version? Come on...
Look, this guy is aware of Duke's efforts, heck we all are, but the more people who get involved, the more efficiently we can get a polished product. There's no guarantee that Duke nor jm012a9749 will be able to do anything, so why should any of us sit back and not get involved? Besides, Duke himself has mentioned that he needs help since he's not an experienced Rom cooker.
Sorry for the rant here, but this sort of attitude really bothers me. Saying "oh, someone's already doing that, sit back and don't waste your time" is why certain projects never see the light of day...
Please only post helpful information or questions!
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Exactly, since day 1 I've been working with duke_stix to help get a working version of crossbow. However now that I've made some progress and actually HAVE a device myself to test on, I felt it was nessary to start a new thread dedicated to it rather than the old dump rom thread
@faria, will try this later, thanks for the advice
Phil
More info on the missing USB sync... under connections, 'USB isnt listed.
Idea's?
Phil
Camera Software
Hi, I found this camera software. Its the one they using in WM6 i think. (Its kinda like the one on my Vox) Im using it on my tronado, and it works with some cert fixes.
Hope this helps
will you be tweaking the rom for speed/performace on the tornado?
sandman_06 said:
will you be tweaking the rom for speed/performace on the tornado?
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seriously sandman,you are not helping!!! am sorry for ranting but like what the thread starter said NO NOOB posting!!! sheesh man!!! they are not "tweaking for performance" for crying out loud!!! they are cooking a wm6 rom!!!
How about we get the ROM fully functional BEFORE we start tweaking it
Phil
samyboy said:
Hi, I found this camera software. Its the one they using in WM6 i think. (Its kinda like the one on my Vox) Im using it on my tronado, and it works with some cert fixes.
Hope this helps
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Thanks alot for that samyboy
Looks like were getting there with regards to functionality
Also does anybody have the Arcsoft MMS client? I've been searching for a while now but no dice. Also could do with the default windows task manager as well.
Phil
Stuff
Maybe you can find some useful stuff here:
http://218.93.115.138/d900/
You can have the WIFI option appear on its current Comm Manager thru Registry.. i have tried it and it worked.. but anyway, glad the new Comm Manager worked also..
The new comm manager also has flight mode, beam and IP Phone buttons on it
Phil
I don't know if we have the same build or version jm012a9749 but the following bugs are present on mine..
"BETA" text on the homescreen
FIX:
HKLM - Software - Miscrosoft - Shell
DELETE - "DeviceBETA" key
You can't open the Sound in Settings (Settings - Sounds)
Culprit could be the file soundsgsm.cpl.xml on /windows/ directory
I just got my new Tornado again awhile ago, and hoping that i could help this team in any way..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=310380

New HTC 1.56 Based Rom from FABIII TEAM

NEW ROM BY FABIII TEAM & THEQUARTZGUY BASED OFF HTC ROM v1.56 AND CREATED USING KITCHEN & TOOLS FROM XDA DEVELOPERS
WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT I SPENT MUCH TIME CREATING, RESEARCHING, AND TESTING THIS AND MANY OTHER ROMS TO GET ONE THAT I FEEL MAY BE TO OTHERS LIKING, BUT I ALSO HAVE TO CREDIT THE EXTREMELY TALENTED FOLKS AT XDA (INCLUDING ALEX, POF, DUTTY, JESCPI2000, AND MANY MANY OTHERS OF WHOM I CANNOT REMEMBER!!!). THERE ARE ALSO SEVERAL APPS INCLUDED IN THIS ROM THAT WERE CREATED BY OTHER PEOPLE AND/OR COMPANIES THAT I DID NOT CREATE, BUT ONLY INCLUDED INTO THE ROM FOR OTHERS ENJOYMENT.
*ANY APPS INCLUDED THAT WERE CREATED BY COMPANIES AND ARE NOT FREEWARE APPS SHOULD BE TRIAL VERSIONS ONLY. ALSO, IF ANY APPS THAT ARE INCLUDED THAT WERE CREATED BY ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO WISHES IT NOT BE INCLUDED IN MY ROM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I WILL CORRECT THAT.
AS FAR AS I KNOW, ALL THE APPS INCLUDED ARE NOT CAUSING AN "INFRINGEMENT" ISSUE.
This is a newly created rom made by FABIII TEAM and THEQUARTZGUY (me) and is a nice rom focused towards folks who want a rom that will have basically all the apps you need or want already installed after flashing/hard reset. It has a little over 90 mb free after hard reset, which is not bad if you consider everything on the rom. This rom was only tested by a small group of people, but results have been good so far. It is basically a loaded up rom full of media/office/utility apps that are useful to most people.
It also has an autoinstall on customizations, so you can choose wether or not to install several apps, so you can set it to your liking to some extent.
This rom is pretty clean altogether, and most of the app shortcuts are placed in folders to clean up the start menu a little. The today screen looks a little cluttered, of course, due to the today plugins included, but they can be easily disabled in today settings, as you already know
ROM DETAILS:
BASED ON HTC ROM v1.56.00.00
ORIGINAL ROM DATE: 08/27/07
RADIO (INCLUDED): 1.27.12.32
PROTOCOL VERSION: 22.45.88.07H
THIS ROMIS RUNNING A 64 MB PAGEPOOL, WHICH IM NOT SURE IF IT HELPS A WHOLE LOT, BUT I DID TRY OUT THE ROM STARTING WITH A 6 MB DEFAULT PAGE POOL, AND STEADILY INCREASING UP TO 64 MB, AND IT "SEEMED" TO ME LIKE IT HELPED A LITTLE UNDER SOME CONDITIONS. AGAIN, THIS MAY NOT BE A BIG HELP EITHER WAY, BUT AGAIN, IT SEEMED TO HELP AND IT DEFINITELY DID NOT APPEAR TO CRAMP ANYTHING, SO I WENT WITH THIS.
SCREENSHOTS INCLUDED BELOW:
LINK TO ROM IS BELOW:
COMPLETE ROM WITH CUSTOMRUU AND ROM NBH ONLY HERE:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8A5S41GW
ROM NBH FILE ONLY HERE:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ILL8PTM2
****ROM IS NBH FILE ONLY, JUST ADD A CUSTOMRUU.EXE FROM XDA OR ANOTHER ROM TO FLASH FROM YOUR PC USING ACTIVESYNC. YOU CAN ALSO JUST PLACE THE .NBH ON STAORAGE CARD (ON ROOT DIR) AND RENAME TO "KAISIMG" AND PLACE PHONE IN BOOTLOADER BY PRESSING & HOLDING CAMERA AND THEN PUSHING RESET WITH STYLUS. IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY DETECT THE FILE AND ASK YOU TO PRESS POWER BUTTON TO FLASH, THEN RESET PHONE WHEN COMPLETE!****
APPLICATIONS INCLUDED ON THIS VERSION:
- ATT PROXY SETTINGS
- 1-CALC LITE W/ NICE BLUE SKIN
- ADOBE FLASH PLAYER LITE 2.0
- BCR WORLD CARD READER (KAISER OEM APP)
- ADOBE READER LE 2.0[/COLOR
- BLUETOOTH A2DP UPDATES + HOTFIX
- CONNECTION SETUP v1.0.30488.1
- QUICK GPS v1.00.919717.01
- REMOTE DESKTOP SHARING
- WIFIFOFUM (NICE LITTLE WIFI SCANNING APP)
- 10 BUTTON HTC GREEN COMM MANAGER (SIMILAR TO ATHENA'S)
- TIER AUTOINSTALL (FRONT-END CUSTOMIZATIONS ON HARD RESET)
- GAMES: MINES/BUBBLEBREAKER/SOLITAIRE/CHESS/DOPEWARS/FREECELL/
HEARTS/KEVTRIS/POCKET SAND/SODOKU/RUBIK/TRIPZEE/CROSSWORD
- TODAY PLUGINS: HTC HOME 2 W/ ALIEN FONT & 9 ICON PLUGINS/
SAMSUNG TIME/OZ IM/SPB
- INTERNET SHARING
- OZ INSTANT MESSENGER + TODAY PLUGIN
- DEFAULT TO WM6 DIALER W/ SMARTDIALING (PICTURED) (CAN EASILY
REVERT TO HTC DIALER IF DESIRED)
- SIP'S: STANDARD FULLSIZE ON-SCREEN KEYBOARD W/ GRAPHITE SKIN/
HTC TOUCH KEYBOARD/TRANSCRIBER 2.0
- WORKING TCPMP v0.72RC1 W/ FLASH VIDEO BUNDLE & CODECS
- HTC AUDIO MANAGER
- HTC VOICE RECORDER
- ARCSOFT MMS v5.0.31.7
- WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER + SKINS
- REAL PLAYER v1.00.810712.00
- HTC STREAMING MEDIA
- MS OFFICE MOBILE 6.1 + ONE NOTE MOBILE 6.1
- REGISTRY: BEAM DISBALED/AUTO TIMEZONE SYNC/LARGER FILE SYSTEM
& GLYPH CACHE SIZES/PIE 5-WAY NAVIGATION
- WM6 SOUND SCHEME + SLIDING SOUNDS + SPECIAL SLIDING SOUNDS
- HTC STARTUP ANIMATION
- WINDOWS VISTA AERO THEME BY DEFAULT AFTER HARD RESET
- TILT KEYBOARD FIX INCLUDED FOR ATT TILT USERS
- SPB MOBILE SHELL (REQUIRES KEY)
- SCHAPS ADVANCED CONFIGURATION TOOL
- KAISER TWEAK (UPDATED VERSION AS OF 01/10/08)
- DOTFRED PIM BACKUP
- CLEAR TEMP
- FTOUCH FLO + CONFIGURATION
- HTC ZIP
- POCKET SCREEN 1.0
- QUICK MENU
- WKTASK
- RC MOD (CHANGE COLORS OF TODAY LINES/BARS/ETC...)
- SPRITE BACKUP 5.1.0 WWE
THOUGH I HAVE BUILT DOZENS AND DOZENS OF ROMS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW THIS ROM WORKS FOR YOU, AS THIS IS THE FIRST ROM I HAVE ACTUALLY POSTED FOR PUBLIC USE.
I THINK YOU WILL BE PLEASED!!!
Think it would help everyone,
if you listed what apps were included in the ROM.
this ROM looks very unorganized, not many new features or apps (from what I see because you didn't list any) and the whole overall look of it is ugly. Sorry to be such a harsh critic but there are some better ROMs on this site then this, nice try though.
Alos, if you were going for stability over features etc.. I don't know why anybody really focuses on that anymore. Every ROM i've flashed with my Kaiser has been stable because It is a fast device. With my Hermes, Stability was very important esp. with Mobile 6, but i think the kaisers hardware can handle a lot.
shanetheclassic said:
this ROM looks very unorganized, not many new features or apps (from what I see because you didn't list any) and the whole overall look of it is ugly. Sorry to be such a harsh critic but there are some better ROMs on this site then this, nice try though.
Alos, if you were going for stability over features etc.. I don't know why anybody really focuses on that anymore. Every ROM i've flashed with my Kaiser has been stable because It is a fast device. With my Hermes, Stability was very important esp. with Mobile 6, but i think the kaisers hardware can handle a lot.
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"TO GET ONE THAT I FEEL MAY BE TO OTHERS LIKING" and "The today screen looks a little cluttered"
quartzguy states he wanted a ROM which others may like - not just what shanetheclassic wants. And yes he as well recognizes the today screen is not the best. If you don't like what the cook is brewing don't eat it. Why do you have to discourage people? Where is your cooked ROM so I have go flame it? Judging from your previous posts you have a pretty cruddy outlook all together.
Shannoncole05 i agree with you !!
Bye
Looks like a nice ROM FABIII Team! I just may give it a whirl.
shannoncole05 said:
....If you don't like what the cook is brewing don't eat it. Why do you have to discourage people?....
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Well said...
downloaded
Responding To Feedback...
Hey All Thanks Alot For Supporting The Rom, I Know Many People Like Different Things, But I Really Felt That Many People May Enjoy This One Due To Its "application Rich" Content And Still Having Enough Availible Memory To Do What They Need.
As I Said Before, The Today Screen Is Somewhat Cluttered, But That Is Easily Fixed With A Couple Screen Taps To The Settings Page... I Wanted To Include Enough Today Plugins To Hopefully Suit "everyone", Or At Least Give Them More Options.
well, Thanks To Anyone Willing To Try It And Provide Feedback, If Anyone Likes This Rom, i Am Working On A 6.1 Based Rom At This Time, And Dont Know When It Will Be Finished, But I Would Be Glad To Post It If Anyone Out There Is The Slightest Bit Interested!
Thanks In Advance From The Fabiii Team/thequartzguy For Providing Us The Feedback To Better Our Roms!!!
shannoncole05 said:
"TO GET ONE THAT I FEEL MAY BE TO OTHERS LIKING" and "The today screen looks a little cluttered"
quartzguy states he wanted a ROM which others may like - not just what shanetheclassic wants. And yes he as well recognizes the today screen is not the best. If you don't like what the cook is brewing don't eat it. Why do you have to discourage people? Where is your cooked ROM so I have go flame it? Judging from your previous posts you have a pretty cruddy outlook all together.
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Just based on the fact that he's from Philly it's in his DNA to be rude.
Looks nice. good job and keep it up!
good job guys
Brick with this ROM
I am a ROM addict and this ROM just brick my fone. Actually had to return it to ATT and buy a new $600 Kaiser. The install was going fine up until 78% and it simply stopped and would not restart and went to Bootloader. I tried the MTYY and other device to try to restart but to no avail. Nevertheless, I concede that it could also have been my computer that malfunctioned but I doubt it.
Respond To "bricked" Phone...
taurusco, I Am Sorry To Hear About Your Troubles, And Hope You Have Straightened Everything Out. However, I Have Now Flashed This Rom Successfully On 6 Different Att Tilts And 2 Htc Kaisers And All Have Completed And Operated Perfectly. Again, Sorry About Your Troubles, But I Honestly Don't Believe This Rom Has Caused Your Ill Issues.
If Anyone Has Any Other Feedback On This Rom, Or Any Other Issues, Please Post, I Would Like To Know!
We're not allowed to cook VC 1.6 in. While there were "bundled" versions for other phones, it can only be purchased from m$ for Kaiser. VC 1.6 is warez and must be removed unless you have cooked in a trial version or one that requires a key. Sorry
Otherwise, looks like a nice effort! Have you considered adding in UC capability? UC can be found here
Cooking Ms Vc 1.6....
Ok Sleuth, I See What You Mean On This App... No Problem, I Am Taking It Out As We Speak And Re-uploading The Rom... Thanks Alot For The Info, Please Let Me Know If There Are Any Other "notable" Issues.
-thx
HATERS.....
All negative feedback on this subject is retarded...someone out of the kindness of the heart takes time out of their busy schedule to make and post a rom...and some moron wants to put it down...all he wants is feedback on glitches/non working apps. Way to go quartzguy and keep up the good work!
I have flashed this rom multiple times and have had no "BRICK" issues...maybe need to reconsider that your computer had something to do with it....moreso, i have flashed every version of every rom quartzguy has cooked(at least 12) and have never bricked or had any major problems whatso ever...feel safe when flashing a FABIII rom...and thank you to all the people that have helpful feedback.
taurusco said:
I am a ROM addict and this ROM just brick my fone. Actually had to return it to ATT and buy a new $600 Kaiser. The install was going fine up until 78% and it simply stopped and would not restart and went to Bootloader. I tried the MTYY and other device to try to restart but to no avail. Nevertheless, I concede that it could also have been my computer that malfunctioned but I doubt it.
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Just had it do it to me, I am currently flashing another rom in a hope to save the phone. I am at 66% currently.
To Those With Rom Flashing Issues....
HEY GUYS, TO YOU THAT ARE HAVING FLASHING PROBLEMS, ARE YOU CHANGING THE NAME OF THE FILE PROPERLY AS TO WHICH WAY YOU ARE FLASHING? IE. FLASHING WITH CUSTOM RUU, FILE SHOULD BE "RUU_signed.NBH" and FLASHING WITH MICRO SD, FILE NAME SHOULD BE "KAISIMG.NBH"
OTHERWISE, NOT SURE WHY YOU WOULD BE HAVING AN ISSUE. I HAVE PERSONALLY FLASHED THIS TO MORE THAN 6 TILTS AND 2 KAISERS, AND I HAVE GOTEN FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS THAT HAVE ALSO FLASHED FINE, NO COMPLICATIONS...
PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS AND/OR ANY OTHER ISSUES OR SUCCESS STORIES, SO THAT I CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAVE HAD AN ISSUE. THANKS.
ALSO, I HAVE ADDED A LINK TO THIS ROM (THE COMPLETE ROM WITH NBH FILE ONLY AS WELL) WHICH INCLUDES A FOLDER THAT IS ALREADY SETUP FOR MICRO SD FLASHING AND A FOLDER SETUP FOR ACTIVESYNC FLASHING, SO IT IS EASY TO CHOOSE WHAT YOU NEED. ALSO, I HAVE ADDED INSTRUCTIONS AS TEXT FILES IN EACH FOLDER IN THAT LINK TO HELP ANYONE WHO NEEDS A GUIDE WITH FLASHING!
HOPE THIS HELPS!!!

Original vs Cooked ROMs

A few days ago I posted something on L26 V5 Diamond thread. It was either a very broad subject or a very naive one that nobody cared to write something in reply. Maybe I shouldn't have posted there.
Now I bring the subject here in a separate thread hoping that we would all share our views and experiences with regard to Original/Official WM6.1 ROMs vs the cooked ones. I already apologize if the subject doesn't deserve a thread and leave it to mods to decide whether the thread should remain or be closed.
Here's what I'd posted there:
So far as bugs are concerned, who's the culprit : build 19588.1.1.4 ? or L26_K_D_V5 ??
It seems an error is repeating so often & so regularly that it's becoming a systematic error. What am I talking about?
Well, we usually get so much focused on L26_XXX ROM or Dutty's_XXX ROM ...etc. that we totoally forget about the "Original/Official" ROMs these cooked ones are based on.
Somewhere in the devine XDA text , God once said :
Flash an "original/official" ROM / HR / flash the XXX cooked ROM / HR
The above is now a universally accepted verdict among us frequent ROM flashers. But how many of us do stay upon the "Original/Official" ROM - whether HTC or AT&T ...etc - for 10 minutes (or 10 seconds for that matter !!) ??
We flash the "Original/Official" ROM (whatever version it is - though , we generally tend to flash the Latest Original/Official one) only for the sake of the above said verdict and certainly not to see how that original ROM works on our devices. Understandably, this happens because we're in a hurry to flash the beautiful cooked ones.
What is my point?
How many of the rulings we pass (and the bugs we report) on L26_K_D_V5 have been tested (over a period of a week or so) upon the "Original/Offical" ROM the V5 is based upon (i.e. CE 5.2.19212 Build 19588.1.1.4) ?
Perhaps it's time that someone with an authoritative knowledge of ROMs takes the list of reported bugs/issues of V5, flashes the Build 19588.1.1.4 , rests upon it for a while , and sees if these are native issues of the "Original/Official" ROM or Leo's V5.
Does it sound too idiotic and naive? Maybe. But at least I can claim that I have not seen such thorough comparison between these two specific ROMs anywhere in the forum. Of course, the wise redbandana (God bless him) usually brings us news of (and introduces to us) new Original/Official Kaiser ROMs in separate threads. But what I mean is thorough comparison between these two specific Original/Official and Cooked ROMs.
Cheers
i see your knoweldge and believe that you are on to something, i don't remember what ROM i was on cause i have flashed almost all of them, but when i went to the official of the same build a lot of the same errors were being seen. most times as long as the chef knows of these problems in the official rom they try to cook the fixes into their version but it is not easy to see every bug in a rom by yourself.
tubaking182 said:
i see your knoweldge and believe that you are on to something, i don't remember what ROM i was on cause i have flashed almost all of them, but when i went to the official of the same build a lot of the same errors were being seen. most times as long as the chef knows of these problems in the official rom they try to cook the fixes into their version but it is not easy to see every bug in a rom by yourself.
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the fact is , up in the heaven , all mods/chefs/very_senior_members know all about these things. My point was to open up a window for us mortals down here to have a clearer idea about what we see in (and pass judgements on) cooked roms.
The undeniable truth is that each chef cooks his rom on a specific original version/build and a clearer knowledge of the original built in each case (and a comparison between the two) allows us mortals to have a better understanding of what the chef has actually done in his rom.
As a very minor and silly example, while in L29 V5 Diamond I am struggling to to see why the "disconnect" button in GPRS connectivity bubble is missing, it would be helpful to know whether this is the "default" option of the original built or is it Leo's - and if it is Leo's, what are the merits/faults of his choice.
You may ask why I don't do such thorough survey myself ? Well, to be honest, I would really die to have such extensive knowledge and expertise. But the fact is, some people are savvys and gurus and some are not. It takes me a lifetime to be as knowledgeable as Dutty or Leo or Alex ...etc. I just hope that in here each of us can bring just a little piece of his/her info to share with others on the subject of this comparison.
Well, I've been using HTC original ROMs for a long time, so here's my report:
Original HTC WM 6.0:
- Great radio (1.27.12.17), GPS fix fast, good battery life
- Skype works
- Cleartype works OK on landscape
- No missing G icon or disconnect button when you click the connection icon
- Feels fast enough (a lot of RAM free)
Original HTC WM 6.1 released on may
- Less than 60 MB RAM available on boot
- Bad radio (1.65.16.25), problems connecting to WiFi with WEP enabled, slow GPS fix
- Skype does not work
- Cleartype does not work correctly on landscape
- Does not feel faster, needs new SPL to avoid random freezes
- No missing icons / apps
Original HTC 3.02
- My favourite unless Nothrills comes up with something better
- Excelent radio (1.58.26.20), best GPS and WiFi
- Skype does not work
- Landscape mode works OK
- Camera can be easily patched or updated to 5.04
All of them come with Office and Onenote, Windows Live, and usual utilities
All of them can be tweaked with KaiserTweak or AdvancedConfig and you get a pretty much fast and estable ROM that just works.
No screen redraw problems, no blank screens, no missing buttons, no missing apps...
vcespon said:
Well, I've been using HTC original ROMs for a long time, so here's my report:
Original HTC WM 6.1 released on may
- Less than 60 MB RAM available on boot
- Bad radio (1.65.16.25), problems connecting to WiFi with WEP enabled, slow GPS fix
- Skype does not work
- Cleartype does not work correctly on landscape
- Does not feel faster, needs new SPL to avoid random freezes
- No missing icons / apps
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It's amazing that while reading your report on Original HTC WM6.1 , I suddenly felt as if I was reading the threads of some of the new cooked kasier roms! Everything you said (and a lot not mentioned here) are exactly the same problems reported in those threads over and over again.
So next time when one reports in , for example, Dutty's new rom thread that : "Skype is not working" , or "the cleartype in landscape bug" he should know that these are exactly the same issues in the original 6.1 and has nothign to do with Dutty's rom.
I agree with you so much. Amazingly to Cook a rom is a few files added here, a few files deleted. Put in what you want, make a few tweaks to the registry and Whaaa Laaa.
AMazingly, WM6.1 has a lot of bugs. Probably not what Microsoft expected when they developed the software. The landscape issues I try to tell everyone over and over it has nothing to do with what the Cook did, its a WM6.1 problem.
I do not use skype but I am assuming the same thing. I think in this thread, we should add the most common problems that we have so we can start looking into them more deeply.
Obviously the cooks inherit the bugs of the ROMs they use as base.
HTC finally released an official WM 6.1 ROM for the Kaiser, with "improved graphics" but at a cost.
- Bad radio. 1.65 radios are not better than 1.27 or 1.58. Ask anyone about GPS fix or battery.
- They changed a display routine so it's faster, but they screwed cleartype on landscape mode, that was working on previous HTC ROMs
- A lot less memory available, and I do not see a big speed increase in return
- The ROM feels heavier than previous one, the screen switches in one move, but the total time to do the switch is longer than previous ROMs
- Skype does not work, it was working on WM 6.0
Some of these bugs have been corrected by cooks when adding files from other builds. HyperDragon III works OK on landscape, ROMs from L26 and Dutty work with Skype... But they introduce other bugs like the missing G icon, or disconnect button.
I hope they interchange their findings so we finally have a ROM where everything works. I don't care if it gets 1432 or 1512 points on some benchmark, if HSDPA does not work, or the device soft-resets while playing MP3, then I'm not going to use that.
Reading all of this makes me wanna downgrade to 6.0. Until we have a working Android, that is...
Just wanna share with you as I am using an official ROM for a long time now.
Original ROMs are the best as they have every thing working. Yes everything, sometimes a minor bugs are annoying like I was unable to send a vcard as sms using one of the super ROMs.
I think the only point is tweaking. If we tweak the original ROM they will perform as good as the cooked one.
As much as the chefs change in ROM as much as we get bugs. My opinion is chefs should concentrate on main issues and always release lite versions leaving options for users.
I have to admit that I have learnt a lot from cooked ROMs which helped me to tune the original ROM to my best.
msharaf said:
Just wanna share with you as I am using an official ROM for a long time now.
Original ROMs are the best as they have every thing working. Yes everything, sometimes a minor bugs are annoying like I was unable to send a vcard as sms using one of the super ROMs.
I think the only point is tweaking. If we tweak the original ROM they will perform as good as the cooked one.
As much as the chefs change in ROM as much as we get bugs. My opinion is chefs should concentrate on main issues and always release lite versions leaving options for users.
I have to admit that I have learnt a lot from cooked ROMs which helped me to tune the original ROM to my best.
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Yeah, that's what I have suggested yesterday but met the offence only.
Well, different people, different opinions.
ryncppr said:
I think in this thread, we should add the most common problems that we have so we can start looking into them more deeply.
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ryncppr, apart from the need to learn more about Original roms, i also came across another strange fact that is widely ignored.
Does anyone care "what" original rom to flash before flashing his desired cooked one? I read many of the threads ; it seems that nobody does pay any attention to this matter. BUT the type of Original rom we flash before flashing the cooked one (depending on our geographical location and the make of our phones), DO CERTAINLY COUNT A LOT.
This is what I noticed and just posted on Dutty's V1 thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398271&page=90
Technically, I don't understand why this happens (perhaps you as a good chef could explain this matter in technical terms) , but I have no doubt now that it is crucially important what original rom we flash first.
Bardia Garsha said:
ryncppr, apart from the need to learn more about Original roms, i also came across another strange fact that is widely ignored.
Does anyone care "what" original rom to flash before flashing his desired cooked one? I read many of the threads ; it seems that nobody does pay any attention to this matter. BUT the type of Original rom we flash before flashing the cooked one (depending on our geographical location and the make of our phones), DO CERTAINLY COUNT A LOT.
This is what I noticed and just posted on Dutty's V1 thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398271&page=90
Technically, I don't understand why this happens (perhaps you as a good chef could explain this matter in technical terms) , but I have no doubt now that it is crucially important what original rom we flash first.
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A big problem is that people do not believe you need to hard reset after you flash a ROM. You do. THe process that WM has built in only clears the memory and storage files, leading to useless junk that gets left behind.
I used to think if I flashed a ROM it was completely getting rid of the last rom, which has found not to be the truth. Though a clearing system file is now shown on the screen, it is not truly getting rid of all the old files, hence the problems with putting ROM over ROM.
bad practice
I know it's a bad practice to have, but I very rarely hard reset my phone after a flash, and I have to admit I never flash the originals back to my phonebefore flashing. once in a great while I hit a weird glitch that I can't seem to find a solution for, and so I hard reset to fix it. I guess part of it is that i'm so impatient that I can't stand to wait a few extra minutes. I check the site anytime i'm not working and if there is a new rom available I've downloaded and flashed before looking through the bugs found. I guess i'm gonna start going to originals first and hard reset every time, now to help on that, is there a way that we know of that will automatically do the hard reset one time right after a flash? I know UC wouldn't work cause it runs after the hard reset/flash so it would loop. if we could cook the rom to auto reset once and one time only it would help out those that ocasionally "forget."
on a side note, this was typed through my phone so sorry for any spelling errors there might be and thank you ryncppr for a great rom.
tubaking182 said:
I know it's a bad practice to have, but I very rarely hard reset my phone after a flash
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The truth is you are a big boy and can handle the giltches/issues. Just take a look at hundreds of posts out there in which people complain and report about some of the most unthinkable issues (e.g. "my phone resets itself every 5 minutes" (Jesus Christ) !! or "when I push the call button my phone starts media player"!! perhaps soon we should expect posts that will read: "after disconnecting the bluetooth headset, our washing mashing stopped working" !
I know that for example Dutty is very serious on his belief on flashing original/HR/cooked/HR every single time one wants to flash a rom - and for god's sake this man really knows what he's talking about.
Sometimes very bizarre things happen when one ignores the above must-do process.
However, my main object here was to invite people to share their bits of info on what a specific original rom does (or might do) to our devices when it's flashed prior to a specific custom rom , and why.
and btw, your spellign is brilliant.
original HTC Tytn II ROM
Hello, since I`ve updates my HTC Tytn II I have too much problems with my internet connection, wifi, gps,...so I would like to upgrade to the previous Version WM 6.0 Prof. (original, german).
Have someone a linke where I could find original (geman) ROMs?
Thanks for your help,
Lou
loubega said:
Hello, since I`ve updates my HTC Tytn II I have too much problems with my internet connection, wifi, gps,...so I would like to upgrade to the previous Version WM 6.0 Prof. (original, german).
Have someone a linke where I could find original (geman) ROMs?
Thanks for your help,
Lou
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I'm afraid your post has nothing to do with this thread - just wonder why u posted this here !
anyway, you can find the original/official kaiser roms here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
HTC & AT&T do different things
Ok, in oder to see the effects of different original/official roms we flash before the custom rom, i did the following and noticed an obvious difference:
1) flashed AT&T offiical WM6.1 CE 3.14.502.1 (built 19209) and then L26 V5
- flashed the same official AT&T and then Dutty's Diamond V1
in both cases, both L26 and Dutty's roms were not functioning optimal on my device. had to deal with many issues (from BT to GPRS to connectivity ...etc. as well as general responsiveness of the device)
2) flashed HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0 and then L26 V5
- flashed the same original HTC and then Dutty's Diamond V1
in both cases , both L26 and Dutty's roms were functioning a lot better on the device. almost %90 of the previous issues were gone.
in both 1) & 2) I used radio 1.65.16.25 and observed strictly the same procedure (usb flashing, same HR, no SD card inserted, no 3rd party app installed ...etc.)
what's going on? i'm now more confident that the type/version of the original or official rom we flash prior to the custom rom affects the custom rom and its behavior on our devices hugely.
this is still widely igonored by the chefs as i've never heard them on their threads mentioning/suggesting what original/offiical rom should be flashed prior to flashing their cooked roms.
I think alot of what you are trying to accomplish here was discussed previously. I have always been a proponent of trying to use Original ROMs in order to better understand what is "original" vs what is cooked and doing all tweaks by myself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389519
Just stumble upon this. I think this one is quite insightful. But yet we have only Cooked ROM threads, reviews, and comments. Not on Stock ROM... once a while though *wonder why.. LoL*
Maybe we should encourage people who use stock ROM to start a thread for their own stock ROM version and make some reviews among the users? Not so good idea, but not so bad either.
I mean this thread is not only to know what work in 6.1 and what doesn't, right?
And for the current moment maybe we could have common concensus for responding to 'bizarre problems after flashing ROM xx.. bla.. bla bla' with : reflash stock rom -> hard reset -> reflash cooked rom -> hard reset -> still have problems?
Just stumble upon this. I think this one is quite insightful. But yet we have only Cooked ROM threads, reviews, and comments. Not on Stock ROM... once a while though *wonder why.. LoL*
Maybe we should encourage people who use stock ROM to start a thread for their own stock ROM version and make some reviews among the users? Not so good idea, but not so bad either.
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Schizo, im gonna do it in few days! I'm working on cooked first. But i have in plans to test Stock ROMs...

I am Starting to cook for the UNI, i would like peoples input

The story
Ive been on this forum since the blue angel was the new kid on the block and although i lost my old account and had to make this new one Ive got keen on programming and i thought the UNI needs some more life in its forum. Ive wanted this device since it came out and it has way too much potential for it to not be a lovely page, although i don't see many US people here(its hard to use GPRS after HSDPA)lol but i would think that there would be a fair amount of people using the UNI still i hope
My plan
Ive managed to collect a fair amount of build #'s and see the need for some new builds and features build into our devices i would like for people to enlighten me as to what they would like to see in their roms so i know how to start building towards that goal so please everyone give me some incite on what you guys will want and i shall start the building
i will end up having packed & vanilla versions and others upon request
hope to hear from you guys as i will be working hard on this
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I'm a big fan of Vanilla's, but I'll include the list of things I usually install on the device. One thing I hope you can help shed some light on is the WM6/6.1 notification queue problem. Not everyone gets them, but there is a problem where the notification queue gets bloated and causes lockups. It seems to only occur in 6 and 6.1. In the meantime, here's the short list of things I usually install to the device:
Arcsoft MMS 5
Esmertec or Intent Java
File Explorer Extension
MS Voice Command
Some type of task manager with a true close option.
Office
PIM Backup
Thanks for asking, and thanks in advance for a great rom.
Uni doesn't support call recording if loud speaker isn't turned on. It would be great if this issue can be resolved.
Thanks mr4r4n,
I look for ROM with most free Program memory. I use nncuong ROM as it has about 31.7M on reboot, and has 21MB FlashDisk - which is most useful.
I like to be able to update programs, so if they're in ROM they can't be updated when new version comes out.
I wonder if it's possible to remove IE to make space, to allow Opera to be only browser. However, I suspect this is too intertwined with the OS.
The things I install are
HTC Tray Applet
AdvancedConfig 3.1
fringWinMob 3.24
Opera 9.5.1660 (VGA)
PocketCM 0.25c
SMSDRFixWM5 v2.0.0beta
Total Commander 2.50
TCPMP v0.81
TodayAgenda 1.1.0.3249
WkTaskL 1173c
VJCandelaLite.exe
Adobe Reader 2.5
FTouchFlo v1.4.1​Oh, and that calculator can be replaced too!
NB. I think Tomal was asking same question as you a few months back: "Custom ROM for you" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411436
Hi,
I do not care so much for the included applications, as I do install them manually when needed, anyway.
I do care for:
- Speed
- Battery life
- Stable build
- Working BT and WLAN
- Support for SDHC cards
Cheers,
vma
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Hi,
I do not care so much for the included applications, as I do install them manually when needed, anyway.
I do care for:
- Speed
- Battery life
- Stable build
- Working BT and WLAN
- Support for SDHC cards
Cheers,
vma
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Yes I share with you that we are looking for a ROM to be:
- The latest version of WM
- Fast enough
- long battery life
- Stable means not have to restart every few hours
- JAVA, Adobe, ... all this kind of basic applications
- Add-ons application to be in a separate options
- Supports 3G
- Email working properly
thanks,
Thank You
First of all, just wanna say thank you for willing to be one of the last developer for UNI. I think there are only a handfull left. To answer you question, there are still people using UNI. I am one of the UNI loyal user as I still couldnt find a UNI replacement.
For the builds, I dont mind what you put in the ROM, as long as the build is stable, and all basic functions are operatable (VC-tho nobody has ever make it happen in WM6 yet, IR, bluetooth, WIFI, internet sharing etc).
I love my two Universals. Have not yet seen a better device.
I do have an HP iPaq 514 which I purchased recently and I expect a VDA GPS (Toshiba G710) to arrive, but those are more for fun - you do need something new from time to time...
...but the Universal is still the best phone around. There is nothing lacking, except perhaps built-in GPS.
And the screen and its resolution is just fantastic.
Cheers,
vma

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