Hi,
i have a little question.
Which and how many versions of OS exist and which are the differences.
The OS version 5.2.318 is come before or after the 5.2.1413?.
Thanks for your answers.
Good question and should be pinned (if i didn't miss it when i joined)
From what i gather 5.2.1413 is a newer build but had more bugs that these developers in some threads fixed for there roms.
Yep 1413 is a newer build and it also came with the new 2007 version of Office Mobile.
The OS build question has an excellent answer in the second post of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316447
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Are we ever going to see a ROM based on the latest stable CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0)..? If I knew what I was doing, I would have been located this ROM and made it readily available to all as soon as it came out... It seems as if we almost got bamboozled into thinking the 1978 build was the latest ROM released which turned out to be a fake build in the long run...
New ROM of duttythroy is based on latest Build 18533.0.7.0. See ==>here<==.
duttythroy:
Its the latest Build 18533.0.7.0 with CE OS 5.2.1978 based on helmi_C pre-released rom.
It is based on the 18533.0.7.0 build but the CE OS is not based on CE OS 5.2.1933...
Anyone..?
CE OS 5.2.1933 is the latest build
the 1978 is an hex edited rom from 1918 build
I don't think there's a Kaiser rom based on 1933 is there yet?
all of these new roms are ports from other devices. personally i dont like this they are prone to bugs and other things which is still why i run my bistorage version of the Kaiser release rom. it is the most stable and has no bugs what so ever.
Okay... It kind of makes sense to me now. I could have sworn that all of the devices had access to the same ROM's once they become available and we (Kaiser/Tilt owners) just haven't paid any attention to the latest builds... I'm hoping we do get a real updated ROM in the near future though...
austinsnyc said:
all of these new roms are ports from other devices. personally i dont like this they are prone to bugs and other things which is still why i run my bistorage version of the Kaiser release rom. it is the most stable and has no bugs what so ever.
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What exactly is your CE OS and Build?
I agree the ported roms may not be the best, but HTC is on a trend to release many msm7200 based devices, like the Touch Dual for exemple, which is extremely similar to the tytn2, and as such should profide a good source of updates.
Sounds good to me. I guess we just have to patiently wait if we want the best possible ROM's for our devices...
austinsnyc said:
all of these new roms are ports from other devices. personally i dont like this they are prone to bugs and other things which is still why i run my bistorage version of the Kaiser release rom. it is the most stable and has no bugs what so ever.
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I have to agree with austin.... having tried every release for Kaiser so far I always go back to his bigstorage version as it´s rock solid. For your info the CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2)
Hi there,
Anyone knows about any cleanest ROM with latest updates (OS patches, HTC patches) and no other stuff in it?
I would go for Alex's UltraCLEAN ROM but it looks like the OS is too old comparing to Helmi's/Dutty's/Schap's ones.
So far the best I ever used is Helmi's Clean ROM, no custom splashscreens, no custom graphics, just completely clean ROM (I appreciate any performance tweak, not bloody graphics )
But it looks like it's out of date these days...
Any hints?
Thanks,
Gabriel
ROM OS versions
To be clear:
Duttys New years Rom 2k8 Fixed [DualTouch v2] TouchFLO: v5.2.1933 build 18533.dutty
Dutty's SupaLite Rom v5.2.1948 build 20000.dutty
Alex.HTC.156.UC4.ROM v5.2.1620 build 18125.0.4.2
Schap's WM6 Pro 4.30 ROM v5.2.1948 build 18548.0.7.0
Helmi kaiser aku.0.7.0_04_clean v5.2.1978 build 18578.0.7.0
See the difference?
Hmm isn't Helmis the latest OS version rather than the most outdated?!?!
undac said:
Hmm isn't Helmis the latest OS version rather than the most outdated?!?!
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Ha! You see? you got the point
How can he have such build (acting as a newest one) and be almost 3 months out of date?
Any fake going around?
FWIW, I stripped and released the Folders & OEM packages from the HTC ROM found in this thread.
thats not exactly how is works
Its not always the newest builds that are the best
But the builds usually is ported from other devices, like polaris, touch dual or w/e.
I have portet the build in my kaiser to herald, (norwegian) and I portet polaris os to herald (wwe) its the same build, I duplicated excatly same edits, removals of files...did exactly the same setup. But there is a very noticeable diffrence in speed and stability on the two ports, even though it has same apps, same setup, same os build.
I dunno if this explain anything to anyone
But do not make the mistake beliving newer os version is better.
cheers
IIRC (and I could be completely wrong here) the 5.2.1978 build was a fake.
Something to consider with these build versions is that not all of them are built for the Kaiser - some of them have been ported from other releases for other models of device.
Some people only believe in using builds that were intended for the Kaiser, others think that there are benefits from using new versions.
As with all things in software, with fixes come more bugs - newer revisions might have one thing fixed, but another three broken. You never can tell.
Beyond ROM versions, there's also software versions which can be even more significant. For example, we're seeing roms with a much newer version of the camera software now.
So there's an awful lot to consider really.
Alex 1.6 rom is using the most updated at&t rom which should include all the basic patches from bluetooth hot fix to the other stuff. If you want newest NetCF on there, you can cook that in. Many of those roms have been tweaked out, so using Alex's rom, I think is the cleanest. A little bit more understanding of these version numbers would help you understand more about these roms.
itje said:
thats not exactly how is works
Its not always the newest builds that are the best
But the builds usually is ported from other devices, like polaris, touch dual or w/e.
I have portet the build in my kaiser to herald, (norwegian) and I portet polaris os to herald (wwe) its the same build, I duplicated excatly same edits, removals of files...did exactly the same setup. But there is a very noticeable diffrence in speed and stability on the two ports, even though it has same apps, same setup, same os build.
I dunno if this explain anything to anyone
But do not make the mistake beliving newer os version is better.
cheers
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Absolutely agree with you itje. The latest HTC OEM apps also go a long way in helping you determine how "latest" a ROM is. CE OS Build alone shows only part of the picture...
Just a silly question. Can someone explain all the different roms he has? There are the following and I have no idea what the difference is between them.
1) Official WM6.1 Release
2) Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19716 UC RTM X2 variants
3)Official WM6.1 5.2.19199 UC RTM x3 variants
4) And then there is a lot of talk of the hybrid.
Is anyone else as confused as I am?
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Just a silly question. Can someone explain all the different roms he has? There are the following and I have no idea what the difference is between them.
1) Official WM6.1 Release
2) Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19716 UC RTM X2 variants
3)Official WM6.1 5.2.19199 UC RTM x3 variants
4) And then there is a lot of talk of the hybrid.
Is anyone else as confused as I am?
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You could read the changelog located in the first post for each one of the roms you have listed. I was about to answer your question and then a lazy spell came over me and I didn't feel like doing all of the searching around, copying, pasting and posting. Then it hit me, you could read them as well as I could.
I don't think you really understood my question.
Yes, I know that you can look at the changelog and see what changes he has made from the previous base rom. But that does not explain if they are different versions.
Is the hybrid a completely different rom then the official wm6.1 rom? Are these all just updates of one single rom or are there various roms that dutty updates.
If there is only one rom, then please just advise me so. If there are several different core roms (each of which he updates), then could someone explain the difference of each to me.
In simpler terms, are the four roms I listed all just updates of the same rom, or are there core differences in them?
Thanks in advance.
Core differences in them. Some have different OS.
Dutty explains in detail each ROM on the first page. P1Tater answered one of the main differences. Read each first page of Dutty's post and compare the differences.
Closed... RTFF...
Why Ask Why? Just accept that it is what it is...
Im looking for a clean os, preferably CE 5.2.19400 (Build 19199.1.0.0).
I want to have a clean base OS to start adding my fixes, applications and tools. I have tried to disect many of the "vanilla" versions from people, but even their clean versions still include a lot of garbage I dont want and is almost impossible to clean. I would rather start from a totally clean os and build up from there.
Thanks,
jay
I would also like to know this.
further, how can one be sure that a 'clean' os (or any freely downloadable rom for that matter) is free from software that snoops on you, etc?
Here is the 19400 dump
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kdincu
I wonder, is a Hermes dump usable to cook a Wizard ROM?
And you mention, "CE 5.2.19400 (Build 19199.1.0.0).". Is that newer or older than the custom ROMS that are advertised as WM 6.1 build 19209? I mean, does that mean CE 5.2.19209 build xxxxxx or CE 5.2.xxxxx build 19209?
Cheers!
CE 5.2.19400 (Build 19199.1.0.0) means OS from new build, XIP from old build.
However there are some fake ROMs that with modified OS version, this may be the case (Because official 19209 ROM is AKU 1.0.2, how come this ROM is still AKU1.0.0?)
ROMs for other devices can be used in Wizard after porting (at least OS(SYS+OEM) porting must be done). You may use XIP from other Wizard ROMs, but will show your old XIP build in the About screen.
Thanks for the explanation, it's clear now
what exactly are development branches? I read that "development branches" are device specific. are they just build numbers where support for a specific device was introduced? I noticed that both "build numbers" (starting with wm 6 I think) and "development branches" have 5 chars. do development branches refer to just the os part of a rom or the entire rom? if so does each manufacturer add specific files (I'm thinking this explains the 'SYS' dir when dumping a ROM) like drivers and such?
is there a thread listing WM 6.1 build numbers - all I can find is WM 6.5.3 build numbers (can anyone at least offer a hint regarding what build no. does WM 6.1 end and 6.5 start?)
does the XIP part of a rom have anything to do with the development branches? is it different for each development branch?
I noticed the XIP is extracted from the FAT region of the OS and after *fast* reading some topics on Win CE on msdn I take it it contains core os files for the WM os (kernel and core dll's etc) - is this right?
I also noticed a lot of fuss about the XIP in the cooking/kitchen forums; seems one may end up with an unbootable device if an improper XIP is added to a custom rom - can anyone explain?
I'd also appreciate if someone could explain what the following parts of the OS section of a dumped rom are responsible for:
fatheader.bin
fatimg.bin
imgfs.bin
minios.bin
thanks.